No Game No Life (light novel)
Kalypze said: *cough*25k people *cough*This has got to be one of the most cringe-worthy posts I've read in this site. PS: I don't think "animal girls" and "cute moe sister" qualify as the dreams of every man. Not all of us are freaks. Oh, seems like I was misunderstood a bit, well, nevermind. |
| Between the adult world and the world of kids, there, Holyland exists. |
slovak125 said: Yeah, 25k users of an anime listing site. LOL.Kalypze said: *cough*25k people *cough*This has got to be one of the most cringe-worthy posts I've read in this site. PS: I don't think "animal girls" and "cute moe sister" qualify as the dreams of every man. Not all of us are freaks. Oh, seems like I was misunderstood a bit, well, nevermind. |
 |
Forgetfulness said: oh please...slovak125 said: Normal people who have livesBecause it's like our dream has come true. Tell me, who doesn't dream of a world where all you would have to do was playing DA gamez... you could even become a king through da gamez! No shitty school and obligations. Also imagine that harem with those boobs, animal girls and cute moe sister! Like you can't call yourself a man if you haven't dreamt about it at least once. |
  |
| okay, to make it clear, my previous post about dream was sarcasm, maybe not too obvious but if you had checked my rating for ngnl you would get it. I tried to think of a reason why is NGNL so attractive and this was what came to my mind and is the only conclusion i'm capable to make. TLDR read between lines guys or check list |
| Between the adult world and the world of kids, there, Holyland exists. |
HaXXspetten said: Lol, you're on an anime forum, remember?Forgetfulness said: oh please...Normal people who have lives |
 |
slovak125 said: Sadly it was too real for me to get the sarcasm. But yes, I should've checked your list. My apologies.okay, to make it clear, my previous post about dream was sarcasm, maybe not too obvious but if you had checked my rating for ngnl you would get it. I tried to think of a reason why is NGNL so attractive and this was what came to my mind and is the only conclusion i'm capable to make. TLDR read between lines guys or check list |
|
Kalypze said: Sadly it was too real for me to get the sarcasm. I shall take that as a compliment. Forgetfulness said: Does that not sound like one of the most pathetic and cringeworthy posts to you? Btw, I've read the comment about sarcasm. I'm just saying Mind telling your opinion on why ngnl is that attractive? |
slovak125Jul 8, 2014 3:34 PM
| Between the adult world and the world of kids, there, Holyland exists. |
slovak125 said: This post clearly shows why NGNL is so incredibly popular, it's pure wish fulfillment. I agree with you OP it's highly overrated.Because it's like our dream has come true. Tell me, who doesn't dream of a world where all you would have to do was playing DA gamez... you could even become a king through da gamez! No shitty school and obligations. Also imagine that harem with those boobs, animal girls and cute moe sister! Like you can't call yourself a man if you haven't dreamt about it at least once. How can you overrate own dream? |
DrGeroCreationJul 8, 2014 3:41 PM
 |
slovak125 said: To convey written sarcasm, use formatting like stricking and exaggeration.Kalypze said: Sadly it was too real for me to get the sarcasm. I shall take that as a compliment. Think of it as a tone without changing your words to accommodate witty writing. |
 |
T3hSource said: slovak125 said: To convey written sarcasm, use formatting like stricking and exaggeration.I shall take that as a compliment. B-b-but then it's too obvious! With my way, fanboys and haters will see what they want to see...usually. |
| Between the adult world and the world of kids, there, Holyland exists. |
| Oh god, not "this" again... I have one word for u OP: SUBJECTIVITY. Also, why care so much about ratings anyway? God this is annoying. |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
slovak125 said: Because it's like our dream has come true. Tell me, who doesn't dream of a world where all you would have to do was playing DA gamez... you could even become a king through da gamez! No shitty school and obligations. Also imagine that harem with those boobs, animal girls and cute moe sister! Like you can't call yourself a man if you haven't dreamt about it at least once. How can you overrate own dream? Such a poetic soul you have my friend. I legit fell from my chair from reading your comment. |
 "One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat. The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny... The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle." |
| Subjectivity is why your opinion is overrated. |
| @slovak125 I see now. @FlareStar101 Your animu is shit! NGNL is a sleazy whore and nothing else! |
|
| HOW U DARE?! |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
-LEWD- said: This threads are daily aren't they? Yeah and I'm getting sick of it |
 |
ccdewa said: Then stop replying.-LEWD- said: This threads are daily aren't they? Yeah and I'm getting sick of it |
|
LemanRuss said: slovak125 said: Because it's like our dream has come true. Tell me, who doesn't dream of a world where all you would have to do was playing DA gamez... you could even become a king through da gamez! No shitty school and obligations. Also imagine that harem with those boobs, animal girls and cute moe sister! Like you can't call yourself a man if you haven't dreamt about it at least once. How can you overrate own dream? Such a poetic soul you have my friend. I legit fell from my chair from reading your comment. Thank you! But oh, I just love your anime list! It's so filthy I had to bleach my eyes. Anyway, back on topic, my only "problem" with NGNL is da gamez. It's not like they aren't interesting or what, but just author is bending logic however it's convient for our protagonist. It's not like I mind he always wins, but sometimes i'm just scratching my head with thoughs like "what a bullshit" or "well, that was awkward" so enjoyment rating for me isn't very high. Anything else is ok and i would rather say I love the setting than hate it... just da gamez. But yeah it's all about preferences, I prefer anime with logic and depth but I also understand that people may prefer pure enjoyment. |
slovak125Jul 8, 2014 4:03 PM
| Between the adult world and the world of kids, there, Holyland exists. |
slovak125 said: LemanRuss said: Such a poetic soul you have my friend. I legit fell from my chair from reading your comment. Thank you! But oh, I just love your anime list! It's so filthy I had to bleach my eyes. Anyway, back on topic, my only "problem" with NGNL is da gamez. It's not like they aren't interesting or what, but just author is bending logic however is convient for our protagonist. It's not like I mind he always wins, but sometimes i'm just scratching my head with thoughs like "what a bullshit" or "well, that was awkward" so enjoyment rating for me isn't very high. Anything else is ok and i would rather say I love the setting than hate it... just da gamez. But yeah it's all about preferences, I prefer anime with logic and depth but I also understand that people may prefer pure entertainment. Honored that you graced my list with your presence kind sir! |
"One must die and one must live. No victory, no defeat. The survivor will carry on the fight. It is our destiny... The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss. And the one who inherits the title of Boss will face an existence of endless battle." |
LemanRuss said: slovak125 said: Thank you! But oh, I just love your anime list! It's so filthy I had to bleach my eyes. Anyway, back on topic, my only "problem" with NGNL is da gamez. It's not like they aren't interesting or what, but just author is bending logic however is convient for our protagonist. It's not like I mind he always wins, but sometimes i'm just scratching my head with thoughs like "what a bullshit" or "well, that was awkward" so enjoyment rating for me isn't very high. Anything else is ok and i would rather say I love the setting than hate it... just da gamez. But yeah it's all about preferences, I prefer anime with logic and depth but I also understand that people may prefer pure entertainment. Honored that you graced my list with your presence kind sir! It's my pleasure, literally. |
| Between the adult world and the world of kids, there, Holyland exists. |
| I don't think the rational people against this show is just simply saying "DON'T WATCH THIS SHOW BECAUSE I HATE IT AND IT HAS PROBLEMS". We also aren't necessarily looking just at MAL's ratings singled-out... I think it has to do with everyone's perception and difference between a good anime AND/OR enjoyable anime. In this case, it was just the latter. I think people can confirm Japan has just shit taste and everytime I see Kirito and Asuna up there as top MC's for the past few years, I just die a bit inside because I know that's generally what the masses think. You can argue "Who cares what others like? Just do your own thing and be happy with what you watch and do". This logic works nice only that the shows that get hyped are the ones that get the funding/attention while the other shows that deserve attention just die out (I think this is how it works; I'd appreciate a scolding AND an explanation if this isn't how it works however). However, I'm not saying that my jimmies aren't slightly rustled at all by the fact that NGNL is #fking18 of all the other anime ever. Really? I'm not going to question MAL in particular, I'm going to question myself and see if I really am autistic or some sht because I just find everyone's tastes just so horrible; especially when one of my "friends" linked NGNL to me while I was rewatching NHK and told me, "They both have NEETS/Hikikomori's'. Really? I'd appreciate the show a bit more if they just dropped the whole hikikomori/neet act in the beginning. The parts where her sister gets scared when her brother is missing is normal for anyone; any sibling would be terrified if their family were to fade away. Already, taking that NEET crap out would make the characters make more sense without taking away from the show anything vital. Again, to me, NGNL, just have a lot of great ideas but not polished or edited at all. With that said, no, I can't come up with anything better, but writing scripts isn't my job and if it was, I would definitely check through everything before submitting. This works for almost anything in life. No Game no Life? More like: "No Games, No Logic and No other Colors besides Blue and Purple. jejejejeje can I write for NGNL now? I threw funny joke |
| Pop-corn was invented to enjoy threads like this. Nice shot, OP. 6/10. |
Use your brain before using your keyboard!  |
| I may be new to anime, but No Game No Life is still dear to me after watching it. I haven't rated it yet, I will not rate anything until I've seen more to draw a valid comparison. But it's the only anime I've watched so far where I didn't hate a single character. Even my other favourite animes have one or two characters I strongly dislike. I still have a feeling that once I've seen hundreds of animes this one will still remain one of my favourites. |
 |
| I consider shows like tokyo ghoul and .hack//sign overrated but that doesn't mean I'm going there starting topics about it on their subforums because I don't think it will change anything or anyone's opinion. It is true that high rated shows gets sequels but there isn't much I can do about it. |
  |
| @Lt_Spinzaku Anime is first and foremost entertainment, not art. Just because it can be(and it is glorious when it does), doesn't mean it should be mainly that, as satisfying as it is seeing such things. Entertainment, media for the masses, another pass timer and another product to sell to a consumer. However if one starts looking for something more than simple entertainment and wants something with a complex, deep themes and messages, the standards are incredibly heightened. You want human characters, not fun characters. You want realistic writing, not something that's just meant to entertain you. Suddenly you have niche demands because such things aren't appreciated easily and without some commitment and understanding. So people wouldn't like or buy it, because again, this is simply a pass time. If we all had such demands, the industry would crumble, talents that can achieve such things are very rare and even more so the higher one goes up the ladder. Much fewer productions would be made and even less so would be received well to be sold at a profit. So as much as we would like this medium to embrace its capabilities, it is just impossible without it going into complete ruin. Another thing: get it out of your head that MAL ratings are indicative of people's tastes, most just rate on their enjoyment(7 being the fulfilled basis) and nothing else, hence they have no real taste, they just enjoy whatever floats their boat. At most see ratings as a general viewer base reception. Now review ratings, you look for the lower ones and check what criticisms they have, unless it's hateful bashing and you just move on. Also NGNL was very well edited and incredibly well polished(it is still Madhouse after all) and the script did its best job adapting 3 light novels into 12 episodes even with the pacing issues and exposition dumps. Technically it's very well done. The content does seem promising but whatever concept and idea is brought up to solve any problem exists solely for that resolution and nothing else. This is an ecchi comedy that caters to otakus at heart, when it switches gears it's an empowerment fantasy, again, meant for otakus to enjoy. Now the messages it's trying to convey on the other hand are hypocritical and corrupt(fuck humanity, I have my imouto; no matter what's at stake games are fun, but reality is a crappy game). So it's not the technicalities, but the content you and I have a problem with. At the end of the day NGNL is sleazy schlocky entertainment that just revels in what it is. It is fun and enjoyable thrill ride, that's what people care about hence the "masterpiece" ratings thrown around, while we see a good striptease and are consciously aware of it. |
|
| Looks like some of you still don't understand,The East(Japan) doesn't give a damn about you or your opinions either you are a hater or not.The anime was made to boost the novels sales and is most likely there won't be a sequel regardless the overrating on MAL. |
 I painted my teary face with a disguised smile[COLOR=#ff3333] and pretended it was a cry out of joy.[/COLOR] |
| /scratch head I don't get the need to make tons of topic about how bad or good this show is. Even if I've never been really fond of the "everything is opinion" thing , honestly it's just an anime ... who cares? |
I stopped reading there ROFL. So entertainment can be low quality and shouldn't be subject to criticism? Also you don't seem to have read my statements (I admit it's long but don't comment to someone's statement if you haven't read it). Note: I'm only commenting on the statement I quoted; I would probably have more to say about the rest of what you typed if you didn't show me such a ludicrous statement in the beginning. I liked SAO, BB, etc. However, NGNL was terrible for the reasons I have already listed? I want realistic characters? Really? That was what the author wanted. He gave a personality of the character from the beginning and slowly drifted away and turned him into this illogical character that USES logic to why he always wins. I liked Gurren Laggan. Did that have logic and realistic characters? NO. It was a far superior anime than this crap in terms of pacing and characterization. If I turned in the script of NGNL to any criticizer or professor, It would receive D not because of biased reasons or because they didn't like the story, it's because it makes no sense. I could imagine red marks in between each statement saying "If he is a Hikikomori and NEET, how was he able to converse so confidently with other players in person etc" . -Okami said: Looks like some of you still don't understand,The East(Japan) doesn't give a damn about you or your opinions either you are a hater or not.The anime was made to boost the novels sales and is most likely there won't be a sequel regardless the overrating on MAL. Sales and hype matter. If a show gets terrible reviews in the West, most likely it got bad reviews in the east. Japan has shit taste but so does the West; why? Because everyone is a fking human being hype train passenger with no individuality. Side Note: Again, these threads aren't necessarily trying to change the opinions of mindless hype train passenger sheep because god knows it's impossible to converse with them. I think most of these threads are just here to ask why the people who liked it..."why do you even like it". Maybe there might be an actual smart individual who likes the series that might explain why they do so and why they would rate it this high? Also it's to gather people like me who agree with the OP and culminate rational reasons as to why this show is un-deserving. It could just be to bait you idiots into replying and typing "POPCORN jejeje". All in all, it might just be a way to restore faith in humankind and find the few people who agree with him and add on to his argument rather than popcorn this, anime is anime that, it doesn't matter etc. |
Lt_SpinzakuJul 9, 2014 5:35 PM
kramXD said: it deserves to be overrated coz its great!! i'd rate this 11  |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
Hisio said: Really 8.84 for this? This here is the reason why ratings on this website cannot be trusted. We should make it like only a small group of people can give ratings so we can really know what is good and what is less. Really I have lost faith in MAL right now.. Paraphrase: "wow ppl dont share my taste pls ban everyone from giving their opinion kthx (except me of course cus i da bes)." |
  |
Lt_Spinzaku said: I enjoyed the anime 7/10 because of Jibril (and her VA) Hold it right there, you bumped the show up several ratings JUST because a voice actor you like is in it? I thought this was MyAnimeList, not MyVoiceActorList [/quote] Lt_Spinzaku said: Seriously? Since when do tyrants get assassinated by their own kind DURING a battle? Uh, it's called regicide, and it actually wasn't uncommon back in the Medieval era. Lt_Spinzaku said: I also used to be a hikikomori which why I'm in this terrible position for the past 2-3 years and next few months, so watching this MC and seeing him being able to talk confidently to different people and being eager to meet new people is just stupid and shows a lack of focus by the author if this is how it was truly written. Believe it or not, some people actually have a sense of humour. |
| |
| Wow, you are actually dumb/retarded! First, let's address your first statement astro-kun said: Hold it right there, you bumped the show up several ratings JUST because a voice actor you like is in it? I thought this was MyAnimeList, not MyVoiceActorList Uhm, read?! I stated that enjoyment isn't the same as rating an anime based on it's true value. I enjoy a lot of shitty anime. 7/10 for me isn't really that good since I tend to give a lot of 8's and 9's because I can't really find an anime that I really didn't enjoy watching unless it's Shuffle! Also, choosing animation, art, music, and voice acting can really brighten up a movie. Ever tried watching Dances with Wolves without Music or with different Voice actors (western film example)? Exactly. Next with your next statement. Regicide. Again, read. "Seriously? Since when do tyrants get assassinated by their own kind DURING a battle". Kings often didn't fight on the battlefield and even if you could argue that they weren't, during a skirmish like this (which chess IS a skirmish, not a war) a king doesn't get assassinated because of his harsh actions DURING a battle or skirmish. They get questioned later on and then if found a problem to the country, he is executed. Again, this isn't like they were playing Civilization and had to plan ahead of multiple skirmishes and diplomacy so that there wouldn't be uprisings. I doubt there is a single game where you control an army during a battle (like Shogun) and then suddenly, a random assassin comes from your own country and kills you. Fail logic on their part and yours. Third statement: "Believe it or not, some people actually have a sense of humour." What does a lack of focus on characterization have anything to do with a sense of humour? This would be enough to deduct points if I had to turn this in professionally like a term paper. I would imagine red marks stating "why is this man, a hikikomori/neet, confidently talking to others and not showing a sign of recluse?" Nothing to do with cheap laughs, jejeje's, or humour, it was just showing how much he just wanted to get on with the story ASAP and throw tropes and cheap laughs to get everyone from noticing. |
| *yawn* |
Takuan_Soho said: Lt_Spinzaku said: it's because it makes no sense. Nearly everything in the show made sense, the only possible exception was the reversi. Lt_Spinzaku said: "If he is a Hikikomori and NEET, how was he able to converse so confidently with other players in person etc" You seem not to understand what either expression means, neither means that one cannot converse confidently with other people. A NEET is basically a slacker and a Hikkikomori is a shut in. Lt_Spinzaku said: Because everyone is a fking human being hype train passenger with no individuality. Except for you of course (cough cough). As for your comments about "Since when do tyrants get assassinated by their own kind DURING a battle". Good time to do it, since you can always blame the enemy. A historical example off the top of my head would be Julian the Apostate. But you are misunderstanding what happened there. No one killed the king, Kurumi committed character suicide because Sora backed her into a corner and forced her to decide between winning by being a tyrant or losing while maintaining her nobility, in that Kurumi really wanted to be a good leader, she decided on that later. I'm tired of explaining why this anime is bad to anyone who is trying their best to defend it as #1. But I will argue against: "But you are misunderstanding what happened there. No one killed the king, Kurumi committed character suicide because Sora backed her into a corner and forced her to decide between winning by being a tyrant or losing while maintaining her nobility, in that Kurumi really wanted to be a good leader, she decided on that later." No, you are misunderstanding. Blank's reasoning to why they are going to win is because he explained he won because an assassin would kill them now/later on (regardless how you interpretted that battle). Regardless, the game they played... CHESS, is about winning the battle at any costs (hence the many moves named after gambits, sacrifices, etc). To be a good chess player, you need to be ruthless to win the battle. Again, it's clear the writer doesn't know how chess works out and just conveniently found a way to bs the game with terrible reasoning to fuel later development. Btw, again, you used Julian as an example. I applaud you but remember, this is one example of regicide on the battlefield by their own kind? NGNL implied this is exactly what happens all the time or most of the time. Hell, regicide is even looked down upon and would rather just jail the king or banish him. Rastamepas said: *yawn* Yet you comment. topkek.jpg |
Lt_SpinzakuJul 9, 2014 9:00 PM
| I for one could not care less why a person didn't enjoy this anime. I rated it a 10, because I enjoyed it. That is all that matters. Ya .. sure keep giving reason after reason on why I shouldn't like it and why it was crap. Non of those reasons matter to me. I could give you tons of reasons to like the anime, would you like it after? Heck no! You would continue to think it was bad. So why do you think it would be any different the other way around? Personally, anyone who thinks they know better than another person on what show is good or bad is STUPID. IQ ... 0. A rock is smarter than you because it doesn't say stupid comments. Everyone has their own personal taste. Get over it. I can tell you how much I hate power rangers, but I will not say it was a bad show, because clearly plenty of people enjoyed it. What they enjoy may not be what I enjoy. I can easily understand that, how come some of you can't? Whine, whine, whine >.< ... this show ... is over rated >.< whine whine. Pure stupidity. But hey ... people seem to not care about being stupid. In fact they will pretend they are not stupid at all, or maybe they don't even know they are stupid. It's a pretty sad world. |
| I am become bunny, fluffing of worlds. |
Lt_Spinzaku said: If I turned in the script of NGNL to any criticizer or professor, It would receive D... Media Factory and Madhouse don't give a shit and that counts for a lot more. Lt_Spinzaku said: Sales and hype matter. If a show gets terrible reviews in the West, most likely it got bad reviews in the east. Japan has shit taste but so does the West; why? Because everyone is a fking human being hype train passenger with no individuality. Side Note: Again, these threads aren't necessarily trying to change the opinions of mindless hype train passenger sheep because god knows it's impossible to converse with them. Are you saying that you're the only conscious human in a world of mindless sheep? Hmm, where have I heard that before... Also, should you really be making those kinds of statements when you have Angel Beats and High School of the Dead rated 10/10? |
| wow so many trollers- i like it |
| @Spinzaku Can't you just see other people might purely rate on entertainment value even if you personally don't? Is that so hard to comprehend? >.> |
| |
| Thread Locked I can't believe no one spotted this for so long. This thread's gone on long enough. So, if you wanna continue voicing your opinion on this flametastic topic, do so here: [Possible Spoilers] Most Overrated/Underrated Anime V. 3 |
More topics from this board
Poll: » No Game No Life Episode 12 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Cheesekao - Jun 25, 2014 |
1044 |
by Ryder281
»»
4 hours ago |
|
Poll: » One decade later and still no Season 2 ( 1 2 )JustSomeone15 - May 16, 2024 |
52 |
by Krebskulm_666
»»
Sep 17, 2:32 AM |
|
Poll: » No Game No Life Episode 2 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Apr 16, 2014 |
516 |
by AYsFAR19
»»
Sep 11, 10:56 PM |
|
Poll: » No Game No Life Episode 9 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Jun 4, 2014 |
507 |
by shingeki_no_tea
»»
Aug 13, 9:17 AM |
|
Poll: » No Game No Life Episode 7 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - May 21, 2014 |
299 |
by shingeki_no_tea
»»
Aug 13, 8:02 AM |