Attack on Titan
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| Those who hate the ending because they dickride Eren, even when he justified genocide are smoking fucking crack. Isayama hit us with the REAL hard reality, like he continually does. GOAT'D series and ending! |
| I like the ending, i think it’s funny and great meme material. |
| For me personally, I didnt like the ending initially but once everything set in and now that I've had time to think about it. I actually think the ending was almost poetically perfect in a way. I'm satisfied with it and Kudos to Isayama for going against the happy ending cliche and giving us a bold ending which was according to his own vision. Rather than caving in to the fans. |
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| Objectively speaking, it's a terrible ending that retcons several key parts of the story and ruins pretty much every story and character arc. Personally, I was never really a fan of the series so I didn't care. Seeing the diehard crazies lose their minds over it was amazing. Sasuga, Isayama. |
| Controversial opinions |
| I think the unfair ending was good, if it was a "happy" ending it would be good because happy endings are good, but from the moment Eren started doing "bad" things it nullified the chances of happy endings so the ending makes sense, in my mere opinion. |
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| absolute garbage that retroactively ruins the whole story 🔥 yams what a writer you are |
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| I hate the ending aswell as eren. |
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lightenshadow said:
That’s definitely not true, it’s cause Eren went out like a bitch, he did a complete unnatural 180, forgot why he did the rumbling, implied he was mind controlled by Ymir since birth, cried because he couldn’t smash his already down step sister, and made mikasa the main character, a literal quote from the chapter btw, “Ymir waited 2000 years for someone to free her… and that someone was mikasa” Armin then ask why and Eren says “Only Ymir knows that one” are you serious?
That’s definitely not true, it’s cause Eren went out like a bitch, he did a complete unnatural 180, forgot why he did the rumbling, implied he was mind controlled by Ymir since birth, cried because he couldn’t smash his already down step sister, and made mikasa the main character, a literal quote from the chapter btw, “Ymir waited 2000 years for someone to free her… and that someone was mikasa” Armin then ask why and Eren says “Only Ymir knows that one” are you serious?
ending is not perfect by any means also the yamir thing you mentioned is also a weak part of ending in my opinion too, but if you think eren did complete 180 then you don't understand eren's character at all.
eren always been same from start to end.
| @SubArU_JeAgEr exactly, it wasn't 180ing, he was just that hopeless from the start. I still cringe at the "i wanted to make you 2 heroes" so hard it physically disgusts me. |
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| It was an okay series all the way |
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| The ending is depress ass shit but probably the most the infuriated me was the abilities of the "attack titan". |
| I am lowkey more excited to see how anime-onlys are going to react to the Eren scene than actually watching the finale lmao |
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| To be completely honest, I don't really remember much. But just from what I remember, I don't think it's "bad" bad. It's still pretty decent. There's still bit that bother me but not much tbh. it should've ended with just rumbling things happening (Eren is gonna die no matter what). |
SolaceWeb90 said: lightenshadow said: He did go out like a bitch, bro started having a tantrum, even Armin said that it was pathetic? That means he still forgot why he did the rumbling, his brain being messed up goes against everything Eren standed for after time skip. "Ymir Waited 2000 years for someone to free her... it was Mikasa" seriously? If this doesn't make her the mc I don't know what does? Sorry I said stepsister, I guess the correct term is "Adopted Sister" because that 100% makes it better. - If you had any sense of reading and comprehension skills you would've known Armin called Eren pathetic because of his selfish reason of not wanting Mikasa to move on and only think about him, it wasn't because if some made up reason to justify your hatred for the story or to call Eren a b*tch just because he didn't kill his own friends. You're pathetic🤣 - You're being purposefully obtuse. His brain being messed up doesn't go against anything nor his belief. It's something he can't control, it's more so a consequence of the fact that he has so many people's memories in his brain. That's the type of concept I love in story telling, when abilities can have consequences or affect characters negatively. - Do you even know what an mc is? You keep saying things I doubt you know the definitions of. Mikasa is not an mc, Eren was. - Mikasa wasn't adopted either, she was taken in by Eren's father and lived with them for at least 1 year. Lmao i love how you're coming up with all these things just so you can hate on Mikasa. You historia and Eren shippers are so weird. I may not like Mikasa but you people are so obsessed with calling Mikasa Eren's sister even though neither the story or the characters have ever acknowledged such bs. It's just all in your heads. New anime dialogue confirmed that Eren dosent know why he wanted to do the rumbling soooo🤷♂️ Also:  |
lightenshadow said: SolaceWeb90 said: - If you had any sense of reading and comprehension skills you would've known Armin called Eren pathetic because of his selfish reason of not wanting Mikasa to move on and only think about him, it wasn't because if some made up reason to justify your hatred for the story or to call Eren a b*tch just because he didn't kill his own friends. You're pathetic🤣 - You're being purposefully obtuse. His brain being messed up doesn't go against anything nor his belief. It's something he can't control, it's more so a consequence of the fact that he has so many people's memories in his brain. That's the type of concept I love in story telling, when abilities can have consequences or affect characters negatively. - Do you even know what an mc is? You keep saying things I doubt you know the definitions of. Mikasa is not an mc, Eren was. - Mikasa wasn't adopted either, she was taken in by Eren's father and lived with them for at least 1 year. Lmao i love how you're coming up with all these things just so you can hate on Mikasa. You historia and Eren shippers are so weird. I may not like Mikasa but you people are so obsessed with calling Mikasa Eren's sister even though neither the story or the characters have ever acknowledged such bs. It's just all in your heads. New anime dialogue confirmed that Eren dosent know why he wanted to do the rumbling soooo🤷♂️ Also: Lmao and this is what I mean when I say literacy is dead with you people. Stop ignoring the context of the scene. The reason Griesha was saying this was because he was trying and protray the picture of a "family" because he wanted the Reiess family to be sympathetic and help him. what exactly did you want him to say? "Please help my wife, my son and the little girl I took in with me?"🤣 do you not realise how mouthful and clanky that dialogue scene would be? especially in an intense situation? Also you said Mikasa was his step sister and then said she was adopted, your burden of proof should've been that and not trying to prove something every dad would say in a situation like Grisha's. Also the anime mostly adapted the manga and I already explained Eren's thought process and if you still don't understand that. Well... that's not surprising is it. You're practically a pro at misinterpreting scenes. |
SolaceWeb90 said: lightenshadow said: New anime dialogue confirmed that Eren dosent know why he wanted to do the rumbling soooo🤷♂️ Also: Lmao and this is what I mean when I say literacy is dead with you people. Stop ignoring the context of the scene. The reason Griesha was saying this was because he was trying and protray the picture of a "family" because he wanted the Reiess family to be sympathetic and help him. what exactly did you want him to say? "Please help my wife, my son and the little girl I took in with me?"🤣 do you not realise how mouthful and clanky that dialogue scene would be? especially in an intense situation? Also you said Mikasa was his step sister and then said she was adopted, your burden of proof should've been that and not trying to prove something every dad would say in a situation like Grisha's. Also the anime mostly adapted the manga and I already explained Eren's thought process and if you still don't understand that. Well... that's not surprising is it. You're practically a pro at misinterpreting scenes. You’re coping Also anime dialogue is changed so Eren did the rumbling because he’s an idiot     |
lightenshadow said: SolaceWeb90 said: Lmao and this is what I mean when I say literacy is dead with you people. Stop ignoring the context of the scene. The reason Griesha was saying this was because he was trying and protray the picture of a "family" because he wanted the Reiess family to be sympathetic and help him. what exactly did you want him to say? "Please help my wife, my son and the little girl I took in with me?"🤣 do you not realise how mouthful and clanky that dialogue scene would be? especially in an intense situation? Also you said Mikasa was his step sister and then said she was adopted, your burden of proof should've been that and not trying to prove something every dad would say in a situation like Grisha's. Also the anime mostly adapted the manga and I already explained Eren's thought process and if you still don't understand that. Well... that's not surprising is it. You're practically a pro at misinterpreting scenes. You’re coping Also anime dialogue is changed so Eren did the rumbling because he’s an idiot 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Omg you're so fucken stupid. Eren called himself an idiot because he couldn't think of another way to solve the problem that wouldn't result in the death of his friends or the people from paradis. I know how your dumbass thinks, you'll try to claim "well paradis is destroyed in the future so therefore Eren was right"🤓 so I'm gonna respond to that before you make that foolish argument. - First of all its been over a thousand years since the events of Aot, so we don’t know who they are fighting against or why they are fighting. It Would be stupid to look too closely and assume the battle is definitely an act of revenge for Eren’s actions rather than looking at the whole sequence as the portrayal of the never ending cycle of hatred. Just as if Eren had killed everyone in the world, the story would've still portrayed Paradis/Eldians destroying each other cause that's the theme of Aot. That humans will always seek to kill each other until there's only one person in the world. Also you skipped the part where he explains why he did the rumbling, he literally says he wanted to set his friends up as heroes, at the same time level the world to at least have as much people as they do on paradis so they wouldn't be able to retaliate. That's literally even in the anime too. Stop nitpicking scenes to suit your narrative, learn to include the whole context of the scenes instead of extrapolating what suits your foolish hatred🤣🤣🤦🏾 |
SolaceWeb90 said: lightenshadow said: You’re coping Also anime dialogue is changed so Eren did the rumbling because he’s an idiot 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Omg you're so fucken stupid. Eren called himself an idiot because he couldn't think of another way to solve the problem that wouldn't result in the death of his friends or the people from paradis. I know how your dumbass thinks, you'll try to claim "well paradis is destroyed in the future so therefore Eren was right"🤓 so I'm gonna respond to that before you make that foolish argument. - First of all its been over a thousand years since the events of Aot, so we don’t know who they are fighting against or why they are fighting. It Would be stupid to look too closely and assume the battle is definitely an act of revenge for Eren’s actions rather than looking at the whole sequence as the portrayal of the never ending cycle of hatred. Just as if Eren had killed everyone in the world, the story would've still portrayed Paradis/Eldians destroying each other cause that's the theme of Aot. That humans will always seek to kill each other until there's only one person in the world. Also you skipped the part where he explains why he did the rumbling, he literally says he wanted to set his friends up as heroes, at the same time level the world to at least have as much people as they do on paradis so they wouldn't be able to retaliate. That's literally even in the anime too. Stop nitpicking scenes to suit your narrative, learn to include the whole context of the scenes instead of extrapolating what suits your foolish hatred🤣🤣🤦🏾 It hasn't even been 100 years in the manga, it was definitely made more in the future so Eren and Flock don't seem right. Also Eren didn't even know if his friends would live in the first place |
lightenshadow said: SolaceWeb90 said: 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Omg you're so fucken stupid. Eren called himself an idiot because he couldn't think of another way to solve the problem that wouldn't result in the death of his friends or the people from paradis. I know how your dumbass thinks, you'll try to claim "well paradis is destroyed in the future so therefore Eren was right"🤓 so I'm gonna respond to that before you make that foolish argument. - First of all its been over a thousand years since the events of Aot, so we don’t know who they are fighting against or why they are fighting. It Would be stupid to look too closely and assume the battle is definitely an act of revenge for Eren’s actions rather than looking at the whole sequence as the portrayal of the never ending cycle of hatred. Just as if Eren had killed everyone in the world, the story would've still portrayed Paradis/Eldians destroying each other cause that's the theme of Aot. That humans will always seek to kill each other until there's only one person in the world. Also you skipped the part where he explains why he did the rumbling, he literally says he wanted to set his friends up as heroes, at the same time level the world to at least have as much people as they do on paradis so they wouldn't be able to retaliate. That's literally even in the anime too. Stop nitpicking scenes to suit your narrative, learn to include the whole context of the scenes instead of extrapolating what suits your foolish hatred🤣🤣🤦🏾 It hasn't even been 100 years in the manga, it was definitely made more in the future so Eren and Flock don't seem right. Also Eren didn't even know if his friends would live in the first place isayama has stated that the Anime is a better version to experience the series cause he uses it to flash things out more than he does in the manga. but yes in the manga it was around 200 to 300 years while in the anime was more so like a thousand years. Many people were right in Aot and yes including Floch (but not his actions) but conveniently ending haters are incapable of admitting when other characters are right too. Only the characters you favor and love seem to always be right except for the ones you don't like. True. Eren wasn't 100% sure that his friends would survive, but I don't know what this has to do with what I said. |
SolaceWeb90 said: lightenshadow said: It hasn't even been 100 years in the manga, it was definitely made more in the future so Eren and Flock don't seem right. Also Eren didn't even know if his friends would live in the first place isayama has stated that the Anime is a better version to experience the series cause he uses it to flash things out more than he does in the manga. but yes in the manga it was around 200 to 300 years while in the anime was more so like a thousand years. Many people were right in Aot and yes including Floch (but not his actions) but conveniently ending haters are incapable of admitting when other characters are right too. Only the characters you favor and love seem to always be right except for the ones you don't like. True. Eren wasn't 100% sure that his friends would survive, but I don't know what this has to do with what I said. No other characters were right though? His goal was to make them hero’s but he didn’t even know if they’ll survive in the first place? |
lightenshadow said: SolaceWeb90 said: isayama has stated that the Anime is a better version to experience the series cause he uses it to flash things out more than he does in the manga. but yes in the manga it was around 200 to 300 years while in the anime was more so like a thousand years. Many people were right in Aot and yes including Floch (but not his actions) but conveniently ending haters are incapable of admitting when other characters are right too. Only the characters you favor and love seem to always be right except for the ones you don't like. True. Eren wasn't 100% sure that his friends would survive, but I don't know what this has to do with what I said. No other characters were right though? His goal was to make them hero’s but he didn’t even know if they’ll survive in the first place? Hange, Jean, Armin, Kiyomi, Erwin, Annie, Kenny, etc... they were all right in some of the things they said especially regarding either the future or the people. Floch was right that the island would be destroyed if they don't fight the enemy Hange was right that genocide was wrong no matter the reasons. Jean was right that Eren was fighting to protect them even if they disagree with his actions Armin was right when he said Eren didnt mean anything he said to Mikasa and that he was pushing them away, and that his book may have caused Eren to despise people even more. kiyomi was right that even though paradis killed everyone in the world they would still fight amongst each other. Kenny was right when he said everyone is a slave to something. And many others, I think you get the point. There's a difference between "not being sure" and "not knowing" because things arent always guaranteed. Things don't always go according to plan especially in Aot, so ofcouse he wasn't sure that his friends would survive the battle |
SolaceWeb90 said: lightenshadow said: No other characters were right though? His goal was to make them hero’s but he didn’t even know if they’ll survive in the first place? Hange, Jean, Armin, Kiyomi, Erwin, Annie, Kenny, etc... they were all right in some of the things they said especially regarding either the future or the people. Floch was right that the island would be destroyed if they don't fight the enemy Hange was right that genocide was wrong no matter the reasons. Jean was right that Eren was fighting to protect them even if they disagree with his actions Armin was right when he said Eren didnt mean anything he said to Mikasa and that he was pushing them away, and that his book may have caused Eren to despise people even more. kiyomi was right that even though paradis killed everyone in the world they would still fight amongst each other. Kenny was right when he said everyone is a slave to something. And many others, I think you get the point. There's a difference between "not being sure" and "not knowing" because things arent always guaranteed. Things don't always go according to plan especially in Aot, so ofcouse he wasn't sure that his friends would survive the battle Dawg, there just stating the facts, no shit genocide is wrong, no shit Eren is just defending himself, no shit humans are always going to argue |
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