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| Well aren't I sadistic af. I personally enjoyed watching Chiaki getting tortured. |
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| Well, this bummed me the fuck out. Not because of Chiaki, but because of Juzo. Poor guy. :/// |
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| Holy shit. That was brutal... I can't stop crying. I knew it was coming. I knew it was gonna happen, but I was not prepare for this. It was too brutal for such a sweet girl. It didn't help how she held on to hope till the end and how everyone was crying. Oh god Chiaki please don't move. I hate to say this but go to the light! I don't wanna see you suffer anymore. T_T Chiaki's final monologue definitely got the tears flowing. Even Izuru cried! My heart is just ripped to shreds. |
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TheLittleRedHero said: Manecleis said: From what I've seen, they're just locked in a class trial, watching Nanami's execution (a long torture sequence followed by a brutal death), and they progressively cry in horror, and at the end they're full despair with the twisted eyes and the moaning. In the meantime, Junko delivers a speech and taunts Nanami, and Komaeda seems to enjoy the execution from the outset. Wait a second here (actually someone showed this transcript on Twitter) Would this make sense in some way with what the anime showed, as far as you have seen? You shoouldn't believe what Junko says. It has been proved a lot of times that she is a fucking liar. |
Well, this meme now feels more relevant than ever: Don't know how I should feel about this episode. Don't really give a damn about Chiaki, but seeing how the class feel into despair was.... eh....... |
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| Rip Chiaki. Was a long torture fest, but I was expecting it. Poor 77th class :( |
| good stuff this ep: Juzo being in love with Munakata confirmed bad stuff this ep: literally everything else fuck Tsumiki, fuck Chisa, fuck Junko. Fuck them,let them be dead and gone. What the fuck was that? Not only purely bullshit but also gore fest for edgelords. I lied to myself that I was prepared for this obvious outcome, 'cause apparently I wasn't. Of course she didn't die in that student council massacre, she had to be the last piece on the cake. I'm officially Juzo's #1 fan, I forgive all his sins in Future. I really hate the Ultimate whore, I really do I lied, there was another nice thing. I liked how they named the ep "Smile at Despair in the name of Hope", the title of SDR2's chapter 5 (also the chapter with Nana's execution,oh the irony) but Despair and Hope switched. |
| I've never, EVER, cried like this for anything or anyone in my entire life. I've seen a lot of death scenes in anime, but this was the most brutal, harsh, cruel and heartless of them all. I was tearing my eyes down when Nanami's "Punishment" began, and until the end, I just wanted her to die already so she stopped suffering. I really thought if Kodaka knows Mitarai's brainwashing techniques too because damn, I noticed I was in the same state as all the 77th class. Zetsubou consumed me for a moment here. Leaving my own despair apart, the episode was nerve-wracking. Juzo being in love with Munakata is something I already knew (at first I thought he was in love with Chisa, but if you pay attention you notice it's Munakata xD). But man, Juzo literally prefered the end of the world before letting Munakata know about his feelings. Komaeda was already fucked up, now we have a Despair-Hope Komaeda 2.0, blabbering about things we already heard when playing the game (and in the anime): Nanami became the stepping stone for hope. Really creepy how he was crying and smiling at the same time. Finally... Kamukura crying at the end, when Chiaki died and holding her hairpin means Hinata is still deep inside... I LOVED THAT LAST SCENE. R.I.P Chiaki. You'll always be our class rep and our gamer sweetheart. I hope your sacrifice isn't in vain. |
Yehart said: Well, this meme now feels more relevant than ever: Don't know how I should feel about this episode. Don't really give a damn about Chiaki, but seeing how the class feel into despair was.... eh.......  These are so relatable |
mat619 said: i felt very very dissapointed with class of 77th brainwashing they forced to watch one of their classmates get brutally killed and that's it? yeah i know it was nasty, but come on!, that supposed to wasn't enough to turn them into despair, at least Chisa is more make sense since her body tied up in the chair with her eyes forced open and there is Mukuro messing with her head. but they're just standing there watching Chiaki get tortured when they literally can just close their eyes and ears. the way they turned into despair just cheap and stupid There's literally no possible way to even somehow convince someone to start being despair and kill people without having brainwashing involved. I don't get how you can manipluate someone using their sad past to all of a sudden make them like a killing puppet. It makes no fucking sense. That's literally impossible. |
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| Everyone's complaints about the fact that Junko uses brainwashing and Chiaki torture porn to turn everyone in Renmants of Despair is very understandable, seeing how the game described this process very differently. I would have prefered seeing them getting picked one by one by Junko. It definitely would have been more interesting, and it could have given the cast of DR2 some much needed screentime in this anime. However, after accepting the fact that this show is reasonably rushed at times and that it's never going to reach the level of DR2, I found this episode to be very entertaining and incredibly gruesome. Using Nanami as the icing on the cake is a great plan of Junko. Seeing her go through all that horrible stuff was incredibly hard to watch though... Everyone can say whatever they want about this show, but they're still doing a great job at trying to make everyone feel despair. And that last scene with Hinata crying... Oh man, that really hit me. |
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| That was good ep. Sakakura? Haaa gaaay! The whole torture thing lasted a bit too long, but was pretty creative. I'm waiting for moreeee. : > Found that on reddit:  |
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| FUUUUUCK I WAS FIRST PISSED OFF ABOUT KIRIGIRI BUT NOW ITS BROKE ME HEART, ALL SHIPS ARE GONE :( I saw it coming but come on man, when izuru started tearing you already know how the feels hit. I wish they didnt have to kill of all best girls, the despair is real. Also the way they turned into despair was pretty cheap however when all of tgen froze i guess it was probably medicine nurse gave(i actually forgot her name typing this) but watching chiaki get tortured and die is fuking bs, i thought there was a much bigger reason as how they fell into despair but oh well. This series just hurts my heart:( |
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TheLittleRedHero said: Wait a second here (actually someone showed this transcript on Twitter) Would this make sense in some way with what the anime showed, as far as you have seen? This was shown by the fake Makoto (Junko) |
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| I wish someone would make a Nanami version of this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERO5nsmYQy4 |
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| Man I am really hate Enoshima Junko my hatest character In Danganronpa I don t care if people like her or not she is annoying and stupid bitch. It seems out of my favourites Females character Only kirigiri get out with bang( though they are many hints she is not dead though) With Chisa dieng attempting to corrupt Munakata due to brainwashing finally dieng In chandlier still corrupt by despair unlike her students,Chiaki dieng the worst death of all my favourites female characters dieng getting torture in dugeon and finally getting the body stab by spikes. Another one of my favourite Seiko who die with many regrets and got curcifed. And Izuru/Hajime not recognising her and she die not wanting to die. I feel really sad for Nanami. I am so glad Junko is now dead that fucking bitch deserve it I hope someone torture Junko more I would be very happy to see it. I give Kodaka medal for making one of the darkest anime in Anime history. I never feel so much despair until this anime comes. |
FlamingMangos said: mat619 said: i felt very very dissapointed with class of 77th brainwashing they forced to watch one of their classmates get brutally killed and that's it? yeah i know it was nasty, but come on!, that supposed to wasn't enough to turn them into despair, at least Chisa is more make sense since her body tied up in the chair with her eyes forced open and there is Mukuro messing with her head. but they're just standing there watching Chiaki get tortured when they literally can just close their eyes and ears. the way they turned into despair just cheap and stupid There's literally no possible way to even somehow convince someone to start being despair and kill people without having brainwashing involved. I don't get how you can manipluate someone using their sad past to all of a sudden make them like a killing puppet. It makes no fucking sense. That's literally impossible. THIS I don't get the complaints Did people wanted the DR2 cast to be murderous assholes because "muh sad past"? |
Kirigiri50 said: And Izuru/Hajime not recognising her and she die not wanting to die. I feel really sad for Nanami. I am so glad Junko is now dead that fucking bitch deserve it I hope someone torture Junko more I would be very happy to see it. Honestly, I'd rather have her alive in the Future Arc, even with a bullshit turn of events, just so that "we" can have revenge on her without having to play Danganronpa 1 again. |
Except Nanami, my poor girl ;____; |
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Manecleis said: Kirigiri50 said: And Izuru/Hajime not recognising her and she die not wanting to die. I feel really sad for Nanami. I am so glad Junko is now dead that fucking bitch deserve it I hope someone torture Junko more I would be very happy to see it. Honestly, I'd rather have her alive in the Future Arc, even with a bullshit turn of events, just so that "we" can have revenge on her without having to play Danganronpa 1 again. Seems like this anime really managed to make people truly hate Junko But c'mon guys, did you expected anything else ? This is the despair arc |
| Poor Nanami. I now understand why Munakata did THAT in Mirai Hen. |
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| This was just too much.... I can't.... It was just too cruel.... |
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| FUCK U KODAKA!!! FUCK U!!!!!!!!!!!!! I couldn't even laugh at Juzo being gay or Teruteru's gay joke. That ending made me cry like a bitch. Best girl NANAMIIIIII <3 That was absolute suffering OTL Dat Komaeda crazy laugh tho. PROPS TO OGATA MEGUMI One thing for sure is I loved the fact Izuru wasn't the one who killed her on the contrary she made him feel hope for a second |
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| First and foremost R.I.P one of my favorite character from the entire DR Universe. Lets do this puh.............. The whole part with Nanami torture was......hard it hit me hard and it still hurts me. And the Hinata/Izuru interaction with dying Chiaki was the nail on my coffin. But let`s talk about the lore of DR and the story overall. This whole series started great with a nice fanservice and character moments. We all know the DR2 cast from the game so there is no need to re introduce them anew. But after EP4 everything rushed so fast. No 78th class action with Junko. No NeoWorldProgramm, no Ryoko Othanashi stuff, no Matsuda expect that one cameo scene, no showcase of Junkos manipluation abilities and the whole plot how the 77th class fell to despair(the explaination makes somewhat sense with teh Anime) but if you think about it it is the same bullshit like the "Despair book" from DanganRonpaTogami spinoff that if you read it makes you a full despair^^. So many things are wrong with this Anime and it hurts me a lot. The 11 episodes cant explain the full story and doesn't do it justice. The whole thing kinda differs and takes from Junkos manipulativ skills. Like with Mitarai it is a perfect example how she can do it. And it was always strongly hinted that Junko took the class 1 by 1 into Despair. how it was done in the end was somewhat logical.....but it is not what always was suggested in the games. Overall this whole thing seems kinda out of character for Junko. I finally understand why i like Mirai-hen more. Because there is no real problem(but still a problem) with the fast paceing because we dont care about the FutureFoundation characters that much expect Naegi & Co. Yeah we got flasbacks for some of them but we still dont care that much as for characters we know now for years and years. Overall both series have a lot of problems but Despair has the biggest problems because it has the burden of the whole how everything went to shit on his shoulders. And it is no easy cross. I wish they had never done the Despair Anime and put the money from there to the Mirai-hen Anime to make more Episodes and the whole animation stuff. I saw some really laggy^^ scenes in this Despair episode around the whole torture stuff with Chiaki. Overall this episode leaves a bad taste and a broken hearth in more than one way. I dont know it just it doesn't live up to what the series throughout the whole games told us. We have one episode left. There is still no Fujisaki or any hint that the NeoWorldProgamm will be explained. Overall the Anime needed more time to explain things. More time to show us things. Like every character of the 77th class had a reason to fall in despair becasue of their backstorys. But cuz the Anime makes uz evil/despair is what we got. R.I.P Chiaki Nanami..........  As always thank you for reading and sorry for my bad grammar. |
MightyM16 said: Manecleis said: Honestly, I'd rather have her alive in the Future Arc, even with a bullshit turn of events, just so that "we" can have revenge on her without having to play Danganronpa 1 again. Seems like this anime really managed to make people truly hate Junko But c'mon guys, did you expected anything else ? This is the despair arc Actually i want Junko to be alive again and someone should torture her with every single method she use to torture people I would laugh so much It make me cry with happiness seeing her death It will be enjoyable. |
Manecleis said: Kirigiri50 said: And Izuru/Hajime not recognising her and she die not wanting to die. I feel really sad for Nanami. I am so glad Junko is now dead that fucking bitch deserve it I hope someone torture Junko more I would be very happy to see it. Honestly, I'd rather have her alive in the Future Arc, even with a bullshit turn of events, just so that "we" can have revenge on her without having to play Danganronpa 1 again. True But I want her to recieve Execution on all character starting From jin Kirigiri one, all 78 execxution,Nanami one and all student councils combine that then take her head off and burn her body nothing ther nothing left. Really hate Junko Enoshima |
| You know, I really like Chiaki and today I've seen her die for the second time (well, first time timeline-wise). Normally, I'd cheer for a show keeping its dead characters dead, but this time around I really hope Kirigiri is still alive somehow. |
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Manecleis said: Nah man, I see what you're getting at but if they were looking at a monitor its highly likely that the footage of what they were seeing had the subliminal messaging found in the despair tapes edited in.Irseus said: And since their bond is really strong, it must be really sad for them to watch one of their friends being tortured sadistically. So sad, indeed. Honestly, there's nothing that can justify this outcome - they were like this RIGHT AFTER Nanami died brutally. This is not sadness, defeat and resignation, it's creepy excitement and twisted despair without the brainwashing, brain-messing parts. It was poorly written, and that's a shame since the whole point of the Despair arc was to get to that. |
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Specimen021 said: You know, I really like Chiaki and today I've seen her die for the second time (well, first time timeline-wise). Normally, I'd cheer for a show keeping its dead characters dead, but this time around I really hope Kirigiri is still alive somehow. Yep Even if Kirigiri dead she have way more better dead than Nanami and Chisa. Well they are many hints she still alive Cure w that just roll away from her, The Posion didn t spread half her body unlike others who die the same way only small amount of blood from her left eye and 6 survivors In Mirai hen. This hints maybe prove that she is alive but in bad shape. Anyway speaking of Nanami death I am amazed how she manage to talk and move a little after getting stab but those spikes? she made of iron like Tengan?? How she is so resilent?? |
Kirigiri50 said: This hints maybe prove that she is alive but in bad shape. Anyway speaking of Nanami death I am amazed how she manage to talk and move a little after getting stab but those spikes? she made of iron like Tengan?? How she is so resilent?? She needed to be alive long enough for a speech and, I presume, for Izuru to make an AI out of her, or keep her living in some way for long enough. But yeah, speech - it was important to make Kamukura cry. As for Kirigiri, they didn't explicitly state that she wasn't breathing, I think, just assumed she's dead because of the poison's effects. And if she survives, she's bound to have scars on her face as well now. |
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| Lol Boxer guy gay af, and for that he betrayed his friends. I knew Munakata was right from the start. I'm surprised the white haired Hope guy even got despair infected. When he was talking at the end I thought he was gonna snap out of it but nop. |
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fofo808 said: Manecleis said: Nah man, I see what you're getting at but if they were looking at a monitor its highly likely that the footage of what they were seeing had the subliminal messaging found in the despair tapes edited in.So sad, indeed. Honestly, there's nothing that can justify this outcome - they were like this RIGHT AFTER Nanami died brutally. This is not sadness, defeat and resignation, it's creepy excitement and twisted despair without the brainwashing, brain-messing parts. It was poorly written, and that's a shame since the whole point of the Despair arc was to get to that. Sublimal messaging of despair tapes with friend going through torture for over 5 minutes vs. the simple action of seeing your beloved teacher killing your friend in front of you. I call this wasted effort, especially since the latter makes much more sense as to why they would fall to despair. Not to mention that their faces were so stupid that it makes me wonder how exactly are they suppose to be the ones that destroy the world. I felt like laughing and puking at the same time. |
| Welp I finished the episode and... man that was so hard to watch, in terms of EVERYTHING from the after 5 minute mark. EVERYTHING, AND I MEAN EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING!! *cough* sorry, but I just really couldn't say much but I'll try to give my idea with the episode, albeit I do think there was one thing that bugged me, but anyone can correct me on this manner, hopefully they can understand of course. The episode at least for the first 5 minutes were pretty nice to see, at least for the Junko moments. It was more like "Yeah I will show Munakata these pictures if you don't tell him that I am innocent." It also makes sense since you know, in the Future Arc I think he was of course rather staying loyal to Munakata, but that's because he betrayed him so he wanted to kind of keep that, if you get what I mean around here. It really connects at the very least in that sense. And well as for the entire 15 minutes scene... Oh boy do I have to say, they made me feel like shit completely for today, that even I feel the pain of everyone from the source medias. I mean even twitter (which I use that site a lot more often tbh) have been pretty much going despair dosage here a shit ton, and I feel them really, it's painful, and just heart wrenching to watch, as well with a lot of shit would be going on around. Actually before I go into it, let me point that props to the anime for referencing the intro of the punishment, and by that I mean this actually. ^ This felt so nostalgic in a sense despite me playing the game like... let's say nearly a month ago. Like shit time flies so fast of course. I felt a sense of fright when this was actually shown and I hate it when it was shown, because I knew that it was going to happen. Now for the torture scene... Oh boy, I felt fucking heart wrenched, and well, its because Chiaki is one of my favorite characters in DR as a whole, so seeing this in the sense, makes me feel like shit, since I dont want her to suffer this way, and since I don't want her to die due to well, some connection to the one in the second game. I think it makes sense at least for this one for me. I just don't like seeing this scene. Also another thing though, I think this would make sense and people were kind of complaining in some way, but the way the characters turned into despair seems pretty decent, yes the concept is pretty overused, but again it was used in a clever way. You don't really see it, but here's what I can point out in my honest opinion. Although this seems rushed, but I do think that because of Chiaki being influenced and keeping everyone together, kind of meant that if they see her dying, well, it will break them over and turning them into despair, just because they were with her, shared times with her, they were friends with her, she was the one there around them and at their side, etc. You get what I am saying? By killing her off and taking her away from them, that somehow will break them because of the time they spent together. Yes it's rushed, since we don't see it in the anime due to the amount of episodes it has gotten (12, I mean why 12?), but I do see it working that way in some sense, especially with the thought when I have Chiaki from DR2 in mind as well. So you would get my point. The scene between Izuru and Chiaki was like the cherry on top I guess, which was heart wrenching in some way because Chiaki wanted to help him out in some way, and she couldn't, heck she didn't even knew this would actually happen. So its a sense of regret that she would have in that aspect and I can clearly understand that, and that's actually pretty sad in all honesty. I felt like it was heart wrenching in some way, especially with the last scene. I do think also that the way they used Izuru in this episode was pretty fine, though it could have been executed well. No I'm not talking about the scene itself, but to Izuru in some sense. I mean this can be cliche about "A person not remembering anything yet they still have feelings or at least emotions through" its like the memories are rather away and erased, but the feelings and emotions not really. It makes sense really, although rather cliche but it doesn't really take away the enjoyment out of it, and actually in Future Arc, it makes more sense in some way towards Izuru and the flower scene. You know? Although I still had this issue: Komaeda suffered through a lot of shit, and he didn't got broken there, yet he got broken when he saw Chiaki being tortured? Uh... alrighty? That's kind of confusing. Unless he was rather stable in some sense but this scene broke him completely and turned him into despair and such. Overall good episode though. Although it can be fixed in some way but oh well. |
| A little disappointed with them going down the dreaded 'brainwashing over gradual and natural breakdown' but this wasn't as bad as I expected. Seeing someone like Nanami go through that WOULD be pretty damn traumatizing. Wish there'd be a LITTLE more to the process (taking advantage of dark pasts of the characters that we know about from DR2) but can't have it all. Glad to see a bit of human in Izuru, hope that when we FINALLY see him in Future Arc we'll see the cold badass with Hinata's moral heart and maybe Soda's inventions and Akane and Fuyuhiko's fighting skills to back him up? (Also Juzo, even after dying in one series, you continue to be a fuck up, good job.) |
| Oh right, I forgot to add: I've always hated Mikan for killing Ibuki. This episode made me hate her even more. |
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MightyM16 said: FlamingMangos said: There's literally no possible way to even somehow convince someone to start being despair and kill people without having brainwashing involved. I don't get how you can manipluate someone using their sad past to all of a sudden make them like a killing puppet. It makes no fucking sense. That's literally impossible. THIS I don't get the complaints Did people wanted the DR2 cast to be murderous assholes because "muh sad past"? Because it doesn't really make sense? I mean if I saw my friend being tortured then killed, I would want revenge. Aren't these idiots supposed to be Ultimates? Alright, they are high-school kids, but still. Let's put this another way, if instead of watching a video of their friend being tortured and killed for 5 minutes, they saw Chisa, their beloved teacher for quite some time now, killing their friend right in front of them, I would say that would have been more reasonable, make more sense, and more despair-inducing. Someone they trust killing their friend, not many people can recover from that. I call the execution wasted effort and time. That and the fact that their faces looked so stupid: Can you see these idiots being the ones to lead the entire world into Despair? The writing feels very cheap, and there are a lot of wasted potential, like the Twilight Incident. Why exactly was the point of it, other than a cameo? It could have been used as the root of Kuzuryuu, Peko, Ibuki, Hiyoko, Mahiru, and Tsumiki's despair, because it involved them killing people. Nope, the damn thing was glossed over like it was nothing, except for being the reason why Hinata got mad and wanted to be an Ultimate. Wasted potential I say. Junko needs more personal time, like how she screwed Juuzo over so badly. That was one of the highlights of this episode, as well as the end scene between Nanami and Hinata. The anime is conflicting with the lore of the games, and that is just screwed up. |
It sill bugs me how the went all full despair in this episode. I mean remeber this or the conversation between Nagito and Monokuma?  |
| "I'll... never forget about you guys... I'll never... ever forget... I'll be cheering for you guys from now on... from somewhere. Cuz... we're all friends, after all." Chiaki Nanami's words right after Hajime Hinata thank her near the end of the game. One can keep calling her an AI, but these words filled with hope & love truthfully from Chiaki herself, the one who united them all with video games during their school days & the one they once called a class leader. The one who supported & helped Izuru return to his original self & remain next to him to defeat AI Junko together. Good bye Chiaki Nanami, you will always have a special place in our hearts for being one of the most supportive & brilliant character in Danganronpa universe. First episode of Danganronpa 3 ever I cried, are you not entertained, Kodaka? |
MonoReaper said: It sill bugs me how the went all full despair in this episode. I mean remeber this or the conversation between Nagito and Monokuma? Instead of that, you get this:  A bunch of drooling idiots. |
Specimen021 said: Kirigiri50 said: This hints maybe prove that she is alive but in bad shape. Anyway speaking of Nanami death I am amazed how she manage to talk and move a little after getting stab but those spikes? she made of iron like Tengan?? How she is so resilent?? She needed to be alive long enough for a speech and, I presume, for Izuru to make an AI out of her, or keep her living in some way for long enough. But yeah, speech - it was important to make Kamukura cry. As for Kirigiri, they didn't explicitly state that she wasn't breathing, I think, just assumed she's dead because of the poison's effects. And if she survives, she's bound to have scars on her face as well now. True I think she lose her left eye the one the blood just comes out from Well Its better than be dead right? |
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