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| Surprisingly the suicide really did nothing to bother me. I mean it was nasty, but that's all. Maybe because he was just blue. Death isn't scary to me. Now, having your brain poked around and turning into a fully functioning droid/zombie? True fking terror. That brain surgery thing on Chisa creeped me the fk out. Reminds me of Hannibal when he made that guy at the end eat his own fried brains. Props to this anime for managing to actually catch me off guard. Chisa was just too damn strong minded to been brainwashed, so they directly "hacked" her brain. So I wonder how the ultimate soldier learned this ability..I'm starting to think Junko's sister is the MVP in the beginning. Maybe she was jealous of her.. Even hating Junko and I'm shocked how this forum is so much less active than Re:zero other anime. The plot is so much more gut wrenching and memorable. |
Raven_WingzSep 10, 2016 8:06 PM
AlliedWishes said: KK_VANTAS said: so... not only copying the bracelet with sleeping drugs, but the "i might be dead at this point, but this is an pre-recorded msg in an automatic game" stuff from zero time dilema... i keep saying that if chisa was still alive as the MM, it would b borring... BUT copying the zero time dilema stuff would be WAY more borring. I have no idea what zero time dilemma is. It's the third game from the Zero Escape series, another franchise from Spike Chunsoft...The bracelet with sleeping drungs thing from Mirai-hen was based on Zero Time Dilemma and the "I might be dead at this point"mastermind is a thing that happens in it... |
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HyperL said: It's the third game from the Zero Escape series, another franchise from Spike Chunsoft...The bracelet with sleeping drungs thing from Mirai-hen was based on Zero Time Dilemma and the "I might be dead at this point"mastermind is a thing that happens in it... Oh, I see. I actually heard of Zero Escape, but never knew zero time dilemma is part of that, or even a title for that matter. Also didn't know that Spike Chunsoft made that game as well and that the sleeping drugs thing from Mirai-hen is based on that. I guess I can understand now why people like him would find it boring if it does go that way. I should check the games out. |
| Just seeing Junko-chan makes everyone falls in despair makes me so proud of her. |
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EarlCiel said: I really like this idea because it's more interesting and nuanced than Chisa just causing the killing game for despair's sake, supposing that she is the mastermind.So I figured, it must make the most sense that Chisa really still supported Munakata's ideals and beliefs, but still believed that there could be greater hope, improvement, made on Munakata's plans. That's why I think when she told Naegi that it would be great if ultimate hope was born by combining Munakata + Naegi's ideals, that it would be the best outcome. I think Chisa still genuinely advocates for this, but because she was brainwashed she uses despairing methods to fulfill this vision of hers: in other words, a final mutual killing game. Yet, I think that though her intention may be genuine, it has been skewed to the point of wanting the outcome to end in despair (both of them dying..perhaps?) instead of hope. Either way, her values have been skewed to the point of wanting to destroy hope...but secretly she wants them to cooperate? Not sure if that makes sense, but just my thinking process. |
| Making this post now before I see the episode. I am expecting more awesomeness. |
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Fayt89 said: _AnimeLover__ said: Oh My God, seriously? they going for Chisa betrayal/despair route?I thought there will be more twist in future arc...Really dont like where the plot goes but it looks Tengen answer and Munakata stabbing Chisa relates to this despair Chisa...... Goodbye Chiaki, the girl i love the most. But seriously Kodaka, are you really going for this route? It is basically the same shit as danganronpa 1. I really dont like the way it progresses in this episode. I thought Kodaka is going to make even more plot twist than this cliche route. I am really disappointed if Kodaka really go for this. "Chisa Yukizome doesnt smile" WTF? So, is this talking about pre despair Chisa or post despair Chisa Chisa is dead though and don't see her coming back in the future arc. I don't see Chiaki dieing either if Junko wanted her dead she would have died already. My theory that Chiaki is becoming a despair and this episode is further making me believe that I think she and Chisa are going to be ones behind the Future arc events. Remember future arc teased Hinata/Izuru a few episodes ago so he is going to appear eventually in the future arc and was questioning why he would appear but if it's to try and save Chiaki from despair now that he has regain himself it kind of makes sense. Well in future arc, its never confirmed that Chisa is dead, not to mention the opening which shows relatables to their deaths, doesn't apply to Chisa, who in the OP was killed by a box cutter yet so far we have only seen her crushed by the chandolier. |
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Xyfy said: not to mention the opening which shows relatables to their deaths No they dont Izayoi, Ruruka and Kizakura deaths were not similar to OP at all |
| You know, as for what Nanami's fate is, Komaeda said it extremely well in Episode 2: "For as long as Nanami is our rep, this class and its light will surely never end..." |
Manecleis said: You know, as for what Nanami's fate is, Komaeda said it extremely well in Episode 2: "For as long as Nanami is our rep, this class and its light will surely never end..." NOOOOOOOOO Komaeda! You cursed it all!!! |
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HyperL said: Manecleis said: You know, as for what Nanami's fate is, Komaeda said it extremely well in Episode 2: "For as long as Nanami is our rep, this class and its light will surely never end..." NOOOOOOOOO Komaeda! You cursed it all!!! For those who are still looking for a little more hope to cling to, there may be this final line of Nanami's in DR2, at the end of chapter 6, right before the shutdown sequence has been completed: "I'll never forget about you guys... I'll never ever forget... I'll be cheering for you guys from now on... from somewhere." |
| May be the only time I give a 4. The scene where they are all getting hype fell very flat for me. Overall great episode. The final stretch will be fun. |
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| A few minutes in: *shakes head* uh no thanks please stop Halfway through: *clawing at face* please just stop this madness!!!!! Finished: *sitting quietly* ... Um guys? Please don't go. Chisa? Please don't. Nanami? Noooooo! I swear if you die... Oh is that hope I see!? Oh nope it was just freaking despair A very despairing and stress inducing episode. Not much else to say apart from how disturbing and mind crippling that brainwash scene was |
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KK_VANTAS said: AlliedWishes said: Oh, I see. I actually heard of Zero Escape, but never knew zero time dilemma is part of that, or even a title for that matter. Also didn't know that Spike Chunsoft made that game as well and that the sleeping drugs thing from Mirai-hen is based on that. I guess I can understand now why people like him would find it boring if it does go that way. I should check the games out. the game is quite good, though from the 3 games(i think that there are only 3...), i only saw zero time dilema story. if you gonna watch it on youtube, i would recommend nicob's channel, he makes some stupid jokes, but some r quite funny, not to say that he makes references to the other games of the franchise, so even though i never saw/played the others, i kind of get an idea of the story. about being borred, i guess that ending would not be that bad, but i would rather have an mind blown ending were they surprise me with something i was not xpecting... in an good way... like in DG1, i totaly didn't xpect junko to be the MM, but tbh, at that time i didn't xpect that much from DG... or maybe... i guess it's cuz the shows i'm watching lately r becoming stalle(idk if this word is right)... i tried watching one piece, but i guess that was like pouring salt on the wound... Late reply, but thank you for the recommendation. I can understand what you are talking about and find it completely fine. Danganronpa, to me, usually is that way when it came to the games. Many surprises right around the corner, especially when it comes to the major or focused events. I hope that it will continue to be as such in this anime. Oh, One Piece... is unrecommended if you are trying to find something that is different from your usual shounen, which is what I felt it as despite all the wacky things that goes on there. There's also a usual pattern that happens throughout the series regarding what the main characters pretty much do in general that quite a good amount of fans have expressed themselves as getting tired of since it's been happening for so long. In fact, Oda, the creator of One Piece, basically admitted that One Piece was never supposed to be this long, and that it actually should have ended years ago, but he couldn't do that. Wasn't allowed to basically. He had to cram more and more ideas into the story to keep it long-lasting while also as appealing as possible. Still, you never know. If you are really tired of going in any further, than I won't stop you from dropping that, but if you think about wanting to continue to see if it gets anymore enjoyable for you, than I don't see why you shouldn't continue watching or reading the series if you don't have anything else to fill your time at the moments. Overall, I find One Piece a decent series. There are so many that either exaggeratedly praise or bash the series, but I'm pretty much in between, though I say that you should keep watching or reading the series if you are still thinking about continuing and if you have the spare time in case if you really would enjoy it. |
AlliedWishesSep 13, 2016 6:27 AM
| That scene with Ikusaba was creepy. |
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Fayt89 said: Xyfy said: not to mention the opening which shows relatables to their deaths No they dont Izayoi, Ruruka and Kizakura deaths were not similar to OP at all Hmm, my bad, haven't seen the OP since first episode, thought it was significant at the time and it stuck with me. Although I still can't accept Chisa is dead. It can't be. I won't allow it! <(O.O<) |
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KK_VANTAS said: AlliedWishes said: Late reply, but thank you for the recommendation. I can understand what you are talking about and find it completely fine. Danganronpa, to me, usually is that way when it came to the games. Many surprises right around the corner, especially when it comes to the major or focused events. I hope that it will continue to be as such in this anime. Oh, One Piece... is unrecommended if you are trying to find something that is different from your usual shounen, which is what I felt it as despite all the wacky things that goes on there. There's also a usual pattern that happens throughout the series regarding what the main characters pretty much do in general that quite a good amount of fans have expressed themselves as getting tired of since it's been happening for so long. In fact, Oda, the creator of One Piece, basically admitted that One Piece was never supposed to be this long, and that it actually should have ended years ago, but he couldn't do that. Wasn't allowed to basically. He had to cram more and more ideas into the story to keep it long-lasting while also as appealing as possible. Still, you never know. If you are really tired of going in any further, than I won't stop you from dropping that, but if you think about wanting to continue to see if it gets anymore enjoyable for you, than I don't see why you shouldn't continue watching or reading the series if you don't have anything else to fill your time at the moments. Overall, I find One Piece a decent series. There are so many that either exaggeratedly praise or bash the series, but I'm pretty much in between, though I say that you should keep watching or reading the series if you are still thinking about continuing and if you have the spare time in case if you really would enjoy it. i had watched one piece on tv until they got to crocodile... then i continued till they got to dresrosa... i was thinking in going back, but no... i just can't focus on the show anymore... every time i watch it i end up speeding it up just it can end faster... The series after the timeskip have been downhill, in my opinion (and apparently to a lot of others as well, though it's just my opinion on this, overall). Dressrosa was an arc I didn't really enjoy myself. Was pretty much a mess to me, along with having very frequent pacing issues (which is even more prevalent in the anime). It's better than the previous arcs post-timeskip, but still something I didn't really like overall. Maybe it's something you would enjoy if you give it a chance, but I can't completely be sure of that since I didn't, of course. In any case, speaking of the pacing, the anime version definitely has even worse pacing, as it's a lot slower due to Toei doing the one chapter per episode policy (which means that this will take a TON more episodes until the anime finally finishes, which is crazy to me. As if it doesn't already take some hundreds of chapters left for the manga version to finish, already). With that being said, maybe you should try the manga version if you are still interested in sticking to it, though practically the only differences compared to the anime version is that it isn't as slow (since you're reading it and all, which is faster than sitting through and watching), and it's a bit more brutal/mature/uncensored/whatever you call it (just a very little bit, though those very little bits mean to a lot to a ton of people, I suppose). |
AlliedWishesSep 13, 2016 5:48 PM
| Episode 10 is delayed. Again. And everywhere, as far as I can tell (I'm french). |
| I feel bad for Tsumiki. Poor girl. No one noticed her when they were in the class. She's already brainwashed right? So, she doesn't push Nanami on purpose. I can't trust that smile from Chisa-sensei. My cinnamon rolls ;__; |
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| I'm speechless... Watching Chisa getting brainwashed is probably on of the saddest things i've seen :/ I don't even know how i will finish this now :/ |
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 This hit like a nail. Poor Miss Yukizome ;_; |
| Chisa definitely fell to despair. The way her eyes looked at the end, along with the grin, followed by the episode title of "Chisa Yukizome doesn't smile" all lead me to believe she's just stringing along Nanami and will still end up having her killed. I bet Nanami's death is part of what spurs the rest of the class to despair. Can't believe I have 2-3 episodes of each arc left. Things are going to get so bad so quickly. Also, I had been assuming Mitarai was the mastermind in Future Arc, but I'm starting to question that. Since he's not with the rest of the class here in despair arc, it seems like he may not end up falling to despair in the first place, or somehow combats it. However, since Chisa was turned, I wonder if maybe she was the mastermind and her death was faked (it would make sense for her to fake her own death at the beginning to throw everyone off the trail) - or she actually died and is the mastermind even in death. That could explain why Munakata reacted so strongly to Tengan telling him who the mastermind was a few episodes ago. |
jdimaria3Oct 20, 2016 10:56 PM
| Damn great development! Really lovely episode, up to the next one! |
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| Wtf Hibiki kicking Nanami off...But Chisa is still alive, and I could kinda tell that Hinata isn't bad.. He is just all scrambled up in the head for now |
| So this is how the Despairs are born |
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| The 12 Zodiac generals .... lol |
Angry_Always said: Same here, I expected Junko's influence on the class and the way she made them fall into despair to be a lot more complex and insidious than just "hey they watched a fucked video and now they're the Ultimate Despairs!"So they're going with the brainwashing route... *sigh*. Gotta say I'm disappointed, I was really always interested in how the class were brought to despair, thought it'd be clever, intricate and hard hitting as even the best people can be turned by despair. Not such a cheap, uninteresting and characterless thing such as brainwashing. Such a shame... I also think the brainwashing scene was really pushing the limit of what's acceptable to show on TV, and I'm saying this as someone who doesn't mind graphic violence in the slightest. It was just too much for the kind of franchise Danganronpa is imo. There's always been some fucked up things in it but I don't know, this time around it felt like it was too much. |
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| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| POOR CHISA !!! I'M IN DESPAIR !!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| lol at Chiaki mentioning Izuru's hair. Oh shit! Chisa with the fireextinguisher. Mikan fine leg. Peko oppai. Junko wants them to become the SHSL Zetsubou's. Dat zetsubou. Is that really the impostors face? lol at Kazuichi. Kyousuke and Sakakura going after Junko. Chisa look so fine in that chair. Like a h-scene about to begin. WTF Mukuro! Take that out of Chisa's head. Dem legs. Dat oppai. Chisa fainted. Tsumaranai. Dat parade. LMAO at Gundham. Ryouta getting chased. Junko came to say goodbye. Dat ost! Sakakura found Junko. lol at Mikan pushing Chiaki. Chisa. Dat smile. Dat title. |
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| Great episode, I really love Junko. Poor Chiaki, unfortunately something will happen to her. |
| Finished the ninth despair arc episode -so is izuru lying? Or does he really not remember nanami? I am leaning towards the former,as the scientists listed the things they stole from him and memories werent one of them. -the "hey! that is corporal punishment!" Line by Junko was hilarious XD -when mikan appeared I was like "the f***??!! Did she betray Junko? Or is it a trick?". Glad to see she remained on the right side in the end. Junko's side ;) -Nice to finally see the real face of my favorite DR2 character! :D -unfortunate to see that they are going with the "mindwash everyone" solution, as that is far less interesting and engaging than the alternative :( -that "torture scene" was quite erotic lol. Quite funny too with mukro's reactions XD -however, I am 90% certain that chisa DIDN'T turn.all the hints point to that. First,it was stated that the video wasn't having an effect on her. Second, mukuro as was clear from mukuro's reactions and comments,she had no clue how to correctly do whatever it is she was doing. Third,that "munakata picture disappearing moment was simply chisa losing concience, as it has been pretty evident in DR2 and episode 1 of future that the despairs didn't lose their memories,not to mention that she still remembers everything in future. Thus, chisa is still herself -Loved all the animator scenes. They were REALLY well done. One really felt the mental torture he was going through,and Junko's "this is your despair" line was just perfect. The only part that annoyed me a bit was when they showed it as if he was sinking,then immediately cut to him on the shore thus removing any worry from that scene. A pretty good episode,marred only by the direction they chose to take. |
| Enjoyable episode It looks that Juuzou's going to catch Enoshima for Munakata |
| Oh shit! It's going down! They broke poor Chisa, that scene was hard to watch. Poor Mitari, he only wanted to do good. That scene of him drowning gave me shivers. I though it was strange that Mikan was acting normal, guess it was just an act. And I don't trust Chisa at all, the smile was super sinister! I hope Chiaki survives, but I've got a bad feeling. |
| Despair arc can be super off-putting in it's gratuitous violence. Words like edgy can be overly judgemental but can anyone blame me for using it here? The classroom massacre, Hajime growing long wild hair and getting red eyes to become the ultimate evil weapon being cheesier than most battle shounen, the guy picking his throat apart, the clockwork orange brainwashing torture. Edgy can be good, Battle Royale is very edgy and I found it good for instance, so I want to stress I don't mean edgy as a criticism. But gosh is this arc off putting and edgy!!! Much more than Future arc or any of the games have been for me. Spliced in with some of the most ecchi content in the series in my opinion with the aphrodisiac scene and the Mikan seduction of course. These are two elements I normally adore in the games but here there's something uncanny. |
| Well now is getting absurd. I don't where it will goes but Nanami meet the teacher who had corrupted by Junko. Near to the end here we go. |
| I just want to sock Enoshima in the face she pisses me off so much. Really great antagonist. Also I really liked Mitari when I started this series and I was kinda worried when he went off with Enoshima but he still seems as sane as he can possibly be around her so I'm glad he's not turning on everyone with his own free will. When I was playing Danganronpa 2 I really didn't care for Nanami's character at all but now that we get to see her in Despair arc I appreciate her a lot more. I understand why Hinata believed in her so much and felt such a close connection with her. I guess this is a Spoiler if you haven't played Danganronpa 2 (even though it would make the most sense to before watching this...) if Nanami was the traitor does that mean she didn't lose her school memories? If she didn't, I wonder how confusing it must've been for Hinata to be Hajime Hinata then Izuru Kamakura back to Hajime Hinata.. |
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| Oh no, Having watched the first series like 7/8 years ago I was wondering why Enoshima Junko was still alive in this series, cause I remember her dying, and I’ve just realized that this is the prequel of why the world is in utter chaos at the end of the first season. This is not gonna end well... |
| Oh God, that was one hell of a torture scene... Luckily Hinata saved her, at least we know he didn't become an enemy. Finally, Ultimate Imposter revealed himself. I wonder how long it will be until the class see the real Miritai. |
| It's too bad Chisa was lost to despair at this point, including Tsumiki. I wonder if it's reversible. |
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