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Ulquiorra said: I think Mahiru is the killer, she was the only one who had the reason to do it after all. It wasn't Mahiru. Sato killed Natsumi. Fuyuhiko killed Sato. |
AzureAceOfficial said: Ulquiorra said: I think Mahiru is the killer, she was the only one who had the reason to do it after all. It wasn't Mahiru. Sato killed Natsumi. Fuyuhiko killed Sato. tag your spoilers lolol |
| I like how Natsumi isn't all black, like how she feels insecure on not being deserving of her brother because of her lack of talent. I don't think Natsumi really wanted to kill Mahiru. She was just lonely. True, she had her horrible parts but she lacked the guts to go as far as kill someone. She was far less horrible than I imagined her based on summaries. Somehow I ended up empathizing her more than Sato herself. The boxer guy's personality is as worse as it is in Mirai-hen, he's not 100% bad I guess. Chisa being a great teacher, she reminds me a little of Koro-sensei |
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participant_no_5 said: It's true, not a sarcasm. I've never played the series.Is it a sarcasm or...? |
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| The story of Twilight Syndrome Murder Case could have been done better. Even though Hinata is a main character, the whole incident leaves less imperssion when it's shown from the point of view of a person that doesn't have anything to do with it. We didn't even see once the whole cast of the game (without Kuzuryuu) together with Sato, just as friends. If TSMC was only there to show us how and why Hinata decided to go along with the project, it kind of loses it's main point. Anyway, it's still a pretty good episode. It's a shame there are only 9 left, so it can't be helped. Next episode I expect Kamukura Izuru and Enoshima Junko. Also, one more thing. Does anybody knows are Hinata and the others older or younger than Naegi and his gang? Juzo is so annoying, I can't wait for him to die. |
| Noir… It is the name of an ancient fate. Two sisters who watch anime. The peace of the newly born, their black hands protect. |
| Hajime felt a bit too involved... like that scene where Natsumi talks to him just because or he's around when Mahiru and Sato talk just because. His other scenes are fine, I guess. I'd rather they gave like an episode of buildup and another for the murder itself... we know the details but we could use more insight into the characters involved. Well, it also depends on what's planned for the future, maybe they couldn't have spared the episodes for that, I guess... |
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| I actually was starting to like Natusmi. Too bad she died fairly quickly. Characters in this show are starting to piss me off with how obsessive they are about talent. Especially with this dude.  |
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| Damn, I actually liked Natsumi as well. Sheesh, shit is going to go down next episode. Probably the best episode thus far out of both of the arcs. And that last scene with Hajime and Chiaki... I don't even like Chiaki that much but shit, that was a dagger to the heart. |
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GreatPizza-kun said: Awesome episode once again. Izuru Kamakura coming next episode finally. Seriously tho, why does everyone hate on Juuzo? You do realize he acted like a dick only to save Hinata right? If Hinata learned more about the case, he would have been the one in danger. Well You had one job Juzo Save the world. Protect it. AND WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO? YOU TRIGGERED A KID SO FUCKING HARD THAT IT STARTED THE APOCALYPSE! THAT NOT HOW YOU HANDLE KIDS JUZO! |
MonoReaper said: GreatPizza-kun said: Awesome episode once again. Izuru Kamakura coming next episode finally. Seriously tho, why does everyone hate on Juuzo? You do realize he acted like a dick only to save Hinata right? If Hinata learned more about the case, he would have been the one in danger. Well You had one job Juzo Save the world. Protect it. AND WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO? YOU TRIGGERED A KID SO FUCKING HARD THAT IT STARTED THE APOCALYPSE! THAT NOT HOW YOU HANDLE KIDS JUZO! Welp, that's Juzo for you. But honestly, Hinata is just too obsessed with talent 'n stuff. OBSESSED HINATA IS OBSESSED AND STARTS A FUCKING APOCALYPSE! |
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CyberPunch said: GreatPizza-kun said: Welp, that's Juzo for you. But honestly, Hinata is just too obsessed with talent 'n stuff. OBSESSED HINATA IS OBSESSED AND STARTS A FUCKING APOCALYPSE! It's that age old question, can some humans be born evil, or do certain experiences create that evil? In Hinata's case, it seems like the perfect recipe of events will lead to his ultimate despair. Hinata needs to be careful with his anger, he might start acting like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTOoYxOf92s Exactly, its just as you said. And Natsumi's murder is definitely one of those events. |
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| Hajime FRIENDZONED chiaki (showed in his thought) in their last moment!! The boxer is annoying, but Hajime is the WORST. Lololol Even he made Natsumi cried before faced her own death!! Bullying girl is not cool! Hajime! |
We did this every day that summer. There wasn’t a day we missed.  "I love you, air conditioner." |
| "Oh! Let's make this gamer girl cute af and kill her afterward" Goddamnit... ALSO THAT BEAUTIFUL RUIN (16 BIT) BGM THOUGH! And, urgh why that asshole is here too... |
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MoNYeTLeWaT said: Hajime FRIENDZONED chiaki (showed in his thought) in their last moment!! The boxer is annoying, but Hajime is the WORST. Lololol Even he made Natsumi cried before faced her own death!! Bullying girl is not cool! Hajime! Did we even watch the same show? |
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| Just wonderin' why junko could make her own AI -> the mini game in a such detail.. I hope next episode will explain about twilight murder syndrome deeper and -if- junko involved behind the scene too Yehart said: MoNYeTLeWaT said: Hajime FRIENDZONED chiaki (showed in his thought) in their last moment!! The boxer is annoying, but Hajime is the WORST. Lololol Even he made Natsumi cried before faced her own death!! Bullying girl is not cool! Hajime! Did we even watch the same show? Yes we did. Sadly Hajime couldn't say goodbye in proper way to Chiaki, and at the end he accepted to cooperate the project. Maybe one of the reason he picked that way probably caused by Natsumi's lasts line. BOOM. |
We did this every day that summer. There wasn’t a day we missed. "I love you, air conditioner." |
| I have multiple theories regarding the Mirari-hen somehow connecting to Zetsubo-hen (since they are very related): THEORY #1: What ends up happening to Nanami Chiaki after the downfall of humanity? Does she die? The possibility that Nanami is alive and is actually in the Mirai-hen as a character. I believe that Nanami Chiaki...most likely survives. She may be implied to die, but I think that due to some points I've noticed from Mirai-hen, it would be interesting to speculate what ended up happening to her. This episode really got me thinking...Nanami was the one who gave Hinata words of encouragement. Saying that his future is limitless, he can become whoever he wants to become. Saying that life is about more than talent. Saying that life is about making memories about the people who are close to you, and being happy. If you think about the last part in particular, what did it sound like that we are very familiar of? It seems that Nanami's ideals somehow lived on and I think it's no coincidence. WHAT IF Nanami decided to take her own advice and help out her friends...by changing her future and choosing the direction she went in life. What if she changed her talent, to help her friends. I kept thinking of these possibilities, and it became more realistic to me. This is why I'm fairly certain that Miaya from the Future arc is Nanami in disguise. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - THEORY #2: The Traitor's (in Future arc) Identity I think that throughout the zetsubo-hen, we are getting reveal information about what happened before the 'incident' that cause the downfall of humanity. And it extends far more than just the students starting and getting involved with it. This starts with Hope's Peak Academy, the institution itself. If you're watching the Zetsubo-hen, haven't you every wondered exactly what makes someone the traitor? |
EarlCielJul 29, 2016 10:12 AM
 Probably they are Ultimate Despair students because they got the blues. |
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Shimai_ni said: Also, one more thing. Does anybody knows are Hinata and the others older or younger than Naegi and his gang? They're older by 1 year. Chiaki and the others belong in Class 77. Naegi is in Class 78. Also, back in episode 1, the scout was looking into Celes for the school. |
AsL said: In original Japanese?You can watch a gameplay in youtube. |
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| They pretty much skipped through the Twilight Syndrome Murder Case in this episode, but damn, I'm ready for the despair. Chiaki is so precious, though.... Great episode. Although, the Boxer totally ruined the moment, lmao.... AzureAceOfficial said: Ulquiorra said: I think Mahiru is the killer, she was the only one who had the reason to do it after all. It wasn't Mahiru. Sato killed Natsumi. Fuyuhiko killed Sato. You should spoiler tag stuff like this once again for the people that don't know.... |
ReverberateJul 29, 2016 3:59 PM
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| @AsL Thank you for sharing, but I prefer it in original Japanese (even the text). |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| @AsL Thank you for sharing. |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
Reverberate__ said: They pretty much skipped through the Twilight Syndrome Murder Case in this episode, but damn, I'm ready for the despair. Chiaki is so precious, though.... Great episode. Although, the Boxer totally ruined the moment, lmao.... You should spoiler tag stuff like this once again for the people that don't know.... What? In order to understand this anime you need to have played Danganronpa 2 and in the game it clearly states who killed who... |
"Doubting everything that you take on... That is very important. Open your own eyes, clear out your ears, and look and listen to the world... And think using your own brain. After you've doubted everything, there is a possibility of something real to believe in. To believe in something, doubt everything." |
| Juzo has literally ruined everything >Punches all the main characters in the franchise except Komaru...oh w8 he could have punched her as well if she's seen in a prequel. >Tries to protect Hajime from being killed by beating the shit out of him and make him feel that he is shit while spitting on him. >Artificial Hope becomes despair because of the shit he did. >my OTP Chiaki x Hajime sinks to despair because of Hajime's despair. >tries to kill Kyoko with a fckng chair. >knees Ryota cause he defended Asahina >his actions causes the death of Bandai. >punches Makoto Naegi causing his trial to be delayed. >pushes one of his platoon heads to the edge making him a murderer. The guy obviously has romantic feelings for Chisa but he respects Munakata so much and ends up being accused by the girl he loves to have yaoi feelings for Munakata lol. Serves him right. He deserves the friendzone. Juuzo aside, It hurts to see Hajime distancing himself from Chiaki after their adorable moments 😭😭😭 Tengan has now surpassed my suspicion meter for Miaya Gekkogahara. Munakata talks about how Tengan seems like a different person and we see his involvement in the shady projects in Hope's Peak Academy. Kyouko Kirigiri suspecting him as well. This also confirms that Ultimate Scout has vital information in Mirai-hen. |
DarkwindJRJul 30, 2016 10:16 AM
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Anarchi4 said: Reverberate__ said: They pretty much skipped through the Twilight Syndrome Murder Case in this episode, but damn, I'm ready for the despair. Chiaki is so precious, though.... Great episode. Although, the Boxer totally ruined the moment, lmao.... You should spoiler tag stuff like this once again for the people that don't know.... What? In order to understand this anime you need to have played Danganronpa 2 and in the game it clearly states who killed who... Not everyone played the game. Just FYI, I did. |
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| Wow man ı started to hate hope now. Better than Mirai-hen. |
| Nanami find his talent, he his "Ultimate Hope". The thing are getting serious with these first murders. Once again, the boxer acted like a big bastard. |
It's not a spoiler. It's already passed in the anime. The Twilight Syndrome Murder Case is done. |
Reverberate__ said: Anarchi4 said: What? In order to understand this anime you need to have played Danganronpa 2 and in the game it clearly states who killed who... Not everyone played the game. Just FYI, I did. Then you shouldn't be watching this, as many people stated above, this case was clearly explained in the game (chapter 2 I think). If you haven't played the game, you must before watching both Side Future and Side Despair. |
| "Doubting everything that you take on... That is very important. Open your own eyes, clear out your ears, and look and listen to the world... And think using your own brain. After you've doubted everything, there is a possibility of something real to believe in. To believe in something, doubt everything." |
Anarchi4 said: Then you shouldn't be watching this, as many people stated above, this case was clearly explained in the game (chapter 2 I think). If you haven't played the game, you must before watching both Side Future and Side Despair. I have played the game. |
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That isnt a spoiler at all, I mean there is a huge 3 next to the title of the anime, ppl who watched the first adaptation should know that between 1 and 3 there is a 2, even the first PV showed stuff about both games cheesus... |
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KaiserNazrin said:  Yeah, that's basically it. I won't be surprised if he punched the main character of Danganronpa Zero and Danganronpa Another lol He has now managed to punch 3 out of 5 main characters in the entire franchise lol |
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whisperV1 said: That isnt a spoiler at all, I mean there is a huge 3 next to the title of the anime, ppl who watched the first adaptation should know that between 1 and 3 there is a 2, even the first PV showed stuff about both games cheesus... ok but literally quoting the topic rule "this is an anime only discussion, don't discuss the manga [original work] beyond this episode". the killer was not revealed in this episode no matter how you cut it, and some people havent reached that point of the game yet. |
| this probably was the last tie hinata sees chiaki again, i can already see chiaki and izuru meeting being sad as fuck. Its also so depressing knowing that hinata is going to become the complete opposite of what he wants to be, poor guy is pretty much gonna wind up being responsible for the entire series |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Ugh, I wish they showed a bit more with Fuyuhiko and his little sister. I would have loved to see them interact. I did love how we saw a scene with Peko and Fuyuhiko talking together, though. I definitely want to see more Peko since she's my fave ((totally not biased)). I was kinda hoping for them to not focus on Hajime as much, but I guess it's all part of the bigger story. Chiaki was being super cute, kyaaa. I definitely will not get tired of seeing her scenes. I kinda wish Hajime ended up playing with her in the end because I cannot stand to see her sad. For those who didn't play the game I urge you to pick up a copy if you can. The second class trial goes over everything with Fuyuhiko's little sister that didn't come up in this episode. I'm a little sad how everything was a bit rushed, but I'm patiently waiting for next's week episode (and hopefully more Peko). |
GreatPizza-kun said: MonoReaper said: Well You had one job Juzo Save the world. Protect it. AND WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO? YOU TRIGGERED A KID SO FUCKING HARD THAT IT STARTED THE APOCALYPSE! THAT NOT HOW YOU HANDLE KIDS JUZO! Welp, that's Juzo for you. But honestly, Hinata is just too obsessed with talent 'n stuff. OBSESSED HINATA IS OBSESSED AND STARTS A FUCKING APOCALYPSE! He was getting over it though with the help of Nanami! Juzo was unnecessarily cruel no matter his intentions, there were other ways he could have handled the situation. His words DIRECTLY pushed Hinata over the edge. Like it or not Juzo had a big part in Hinata's eventual despair and in turn the tragedy of Hopes Peak even if it wasn't his intention. |
Samu-tan said: @sutori "Stop discussing plot points from season two, because this isn't season two. It's a season three discussion topic." That's literally what you're saying right now and it makes no sense whatsoever. what i'm trying to say is to just be a bit more considerate for the people who haven't had time to catch up on dr2 yet. there are also people who've been introduced to dr franchise by anime first, and didn't know the game is necessary. it's just sad seeing them get shut down in forums so harshly or spammed with dr2 spoilers that are tied into events that dr3 haven't completely revealed. |
sutori said: Samu-tan said: @sutori "Stop discussing plot points from season two, because this isn't season two. It's a season three discussion topic." That's literally what you're saying right now and it makes no sense whatsoever. what i'm trying to say is to just be a bit more considerate for the people who haven't had time to catch up on dr2 yet. there are also people who've been introduced to dr franchise by anime first, and didn't know the game is necessary. it's just sad seeing them get shut down in forums so harshly or spammed with dr2 spoilers that are tied into events that dr3 haven't completely revealed. No matter what you say,it's still DR3 so they should not watch at all if they don't know the story of DR2. You can't jump from 1 to 3 directly. Even if they can't or don't want to buy a vita there's plenty of LP of the game on Youtube. I mean, DR3 spoiled the biggest revelation of the second game in the first minute of the first episode. |
sutori said: Samu-tan said: @sutori "Stop discussing plot points from season two, because this isn't season two. It's a season three discussion topic." That's literally what you're saying right now and it makes no sense whatsoever. what i'm trying to say is to just be a bit more considerate for the people who haven't had time to catch up on dr2 yet. there are also people who've been introduced to dr franchise by anime first, and didn't know the game is necessary. it's just sad seeing them get shut down in forums so harshly or spammed with dr2 spoilers that are tied into events that dr3 haven't completely revealed. Ok, lets see, Im going to pick some of your quotes "don't discuss the manga [original work] beyond this episode", yes, is true that dr2 in the series timeline happens after dr3, but the game was released in 2012, under the name of Super DanganRonpa 2 Goodbye Despair Academy, ppl with common sense should know that if they want a better experience with the series they wont see Danganronpa 3 -any of the two arcs- without playing/reading/watching something about DR2, again we're not discussing something new, the killer in the second game was Sato period. "what i'm trying to say is to just be a bit more considerate for the people who haven't had time to catch up on dr2 yet" I respect that thing about being considerated, I dont like to spoil games, anime or manga either, but if they have time to watch both arcs of dr3 they might want to use that time to catch dr2. "there are also people who've been introduced to dr franchise by anime first, and didn't know the game is necessary" here we have a big issue, even if they were introduced to dr just with this anime (which seems pretty unlikely) most ppl would see the huge 3 in the title and probably would check before watching, for ex, you've seen a quick review of mad max 3 and you want to give it a try, but you see the 3 in the title and you think "oh, this is the third one in the series, I should check what happens with the other two", got it?. Now even if they didnt knew about the game being necessary there is an adaptation before dr3 (pretty much rushed but that isnt the topic here). "...spammed with dr2 spoilers that are tied into events that dr3 haven't completely revealed" that just contradicts itself, so with that logic, for ex, if I discuss some plot related stuff in matrix (1) or matrix reloaded (2) in a matrix revolution (3) topic I will be spamming and/or spoiling over something that came BEFORE this last instalment? well, that is some new logic for me tbh. With that said IMO we've been tricked in the game, since monokuma was the one who gave kuzuryuu the photo which had tsumiki, mioda, saionji and koizumi in it and they were supposed to be the ones who found the body, unless we are about to see that in ep4 next thursday, I/most users here wont tag this as a spoiler since this I just mentioned works as a discussion topic of what happenend in this ep and again it happened before dr3 came out, peace. |
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| hmm I just noticed the blood in mirai is red and in zetsubou it is pink, why did they make the difference? |
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| I loved the episode, Natsumi especially {r.i.p.}, but the lack of Komaeda in any kind of major role is KILLING me. |
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| AW! they didn't show what happen behind the scene of that Twilight case :c but it's very interesting to know that actually Hajime knows both of them. and so, currently i'm still playing the game and i'm near the end of it so that spoiler in the end, that caught me by suprise xD well, i'm actually glad to know that. because how Hajime was acting in the game is the same thing like how Naegi act as "Ultimate Hope" student in the first game. but chiaki is still a big mystery to me. so i will finish the game first before watching the next episode for sure xD looking foward to the next episode. |
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| Well... shit... Wasn't expecting them to make Natsumi sympathetic. All our preconceived notions from the game made her out to be a bitch, which she was, but she seems more like a neglected child with an inferiority-complex throwing a fit for attention which is actually kind of sad. Especially since she could evidently related to Hajime. Well, even if she was simply throwing a tantrum and her threats weren't serious, Sato clearly took them literally. Sato also seemed to have a bit of an inferiority-complex as well which could be why she held Mahiru in such high regard while also despising Natsumi so intensely who brought Sato's insecurities to the surface to mask her own. Quite a complex and realistic relationship between these characters here. I can definitely see this very scenario playing out in real life, murder and all, especially in Japan where image is everything and complexes are common. The scenes between Hajime and Chiaki are beautiful, both in cinematography and substance. It's quite a shame really knowing the outcome of this all. For them all. Sakakura proves to be more-so the Ultimate High Schoool-Level Dickhead than Boxer. |
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| I thought Natsumi would last through episode four. Oh well. |
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