The Saga of Tanya the Evil (light novel)
| Well, I must remind you that "not Germany" is the one who defend in this war ^^ It has a democratic government too, and Tanya doesn"t see any problem with its meritocratic system. Perhaps on this point "not germany" is even better than its neighbours :P |
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| Several things. -Not-Germany is the only country that would allow Tanya as a commander (pure meritocracy) and move her in rank before she get far more aged. - She's born here as an Orphan, so it's not like she had a choice except if you want her to walk on the road until she cross the border. -she wants to quickly establish a successful carrier. Starting it by being a lone migrant young girl in an enemy country isn't the easiest way to do it - Allies are allied to not-russia, and she hates commies (going as far as saying "the only good commies are dead commies"). - Not-Germany are not the "bad guys" in this (well, germany in ww1 wasn't either though, but even less here since they're being attacked instead). And when the conflict starts, there is no telling that it's going to become a world war. Tanya quickly grasps the problem, but she's already part of the military at that point. You can't switch side easily and hope being promoted in the opposite side while being a traitor and a deserter. -the empire is not tyranical and it's clearly stated that they have no wish for expanding. It's similar to France during the Napoleonic wars, as in they are attacked all the time, but win, so they expand and create buffer states as a result, get attacked again, rince and repeat. |
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| Empires give respect to those who earn it, "the good guys" toss those who deserve respect under the rug. it's not conquering to expand it's borders everyone is declaring war on them... im not convinced the "entente" we're ever the good guys, Winners change the history to suit their needs. or are you one of those people who say democracy gud imperalism bad? |
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Esterona said: Well, I must remind you that "not Germany" is the one who defend in this war ^^ It has a democratic government too, and Tanya doesn"t see any problem with its meritocratic system. Perhaps on this point "not germany" is even better than its neighbours :P Oh so it’s not based on real life WW1 where "not Germany" is the one attacking everyone else |
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VforVortex said: false, it was ItalyGermany's the smallest one Zefyris said: mhh sus to claim that the people who turned an unrelated assassination into a world war weren’t the bad guysgermany in ww1 |
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EstebanOD said: VforVortex said: false, it was ItalyGermany's the smallest one Zefyris said: mhh sus to claim that the people who turned an unrelated assassination into a world war weren’t the bad guysgermany in ww1 Excuse me, the country that started that was Austria Hungary. You clearly don't know your History. In the year preceding the war alone, Austrian General Chief of Staff Konrad Von Hotzendorf asked the Austrian Hungary Emperor 13 times to declare war on Serbia, and the only reason the very old Emperor didn't accept was because the Emperor's nephew, Franz Ferdinand, was blocking it from happening. So when Franz Ferdinand died from an assassination by a Serbian idiot, what do you think Konrad V H did ? Of course, he asked a 14th time. And got what he wanted, with an ultimatum that had no chance to be fully accepted by Serbia due to some of its ridiculous clauses. Serbia despite this almost fully accepted it, only making a condition on the most ridiculous clause of the bunch. When he saw that, the German Emperor was relieved, and said he was glad this would not turn into a war. Except that under the pretext that the ultimatum was only 99,5% accepted and not 100%, Austria Hungary declared war, dragging alliances into it, and the rest is History. Germany was the most militarily competent of the central powers by a long shot, but they're not the ones that started the war. |
ZefyrisJun 19, 2023 9:32 AM
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| I won't excuse you, once again, yes Germany is responsible for WW1. No one forced Germany to attack other countries that weren't involved in the conflict... Germany wasn't forced to give money to AH to finance their war against Serbia, yet they did. AH didn't force Germany to conceive the Schlieffen Plan, Germany did that alone. AH didn't force Germany to build a naval fleet to try to rival the UK's Royal Navy, Germany did it because they wanted to expand their empire. Did AH force Germany to annex Alsace-Lorraine? No. Once again they just wanted more territory. Germany wanted harsh terms against Serbia despite having the power to defuse the conflict. Germany turned a regular war (that they could've even tried to prevent) into a conflict involving most of Europe. It is therefore responsible for WW1. |
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