So was this just Izana's Jealousy?

Dec 12, 2023 11:21 PM

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Same here. Never have I ever been so disappointed in a character's motivation. This is just a lazy reason for the author to give Izana some character.

Tokyo revengers fans call this guy cool. I too found him interesting because of his personality and his character design. With the shit character writing and motives, he feels like a copy-paste from Deviantart.

Dec 12, 2023 11:22 PM

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Obito_Uchiha00 said:
At first, I was not sure if it was Izana's jealousy or something else but After watching the 11th episode I am sure it was just his jealousy. I think Izana's writing is poor. I mean that's not a solid reason to justify his actions. who would be willing to kill his sister just to take revenge on his brother? He is going too far just to take revenge of Shinichiro from Mikey. Don't you think so?. Even Kisaki's writing is good. We are made to hate him more and more after every episode.

Ngl from the stuff I’ve seen about kisaki’s reasoning for doing what he’s done it’s not much different from izana tbh. So by the end of the season you might have a different take on kisaki’s writing.

Dec 13, 2023 12:21 AM

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Obito_Uchiha00 said:
At first, I was not sure if it was Izana's jealousy or something else but After watching the 11th episode I am sure it was just his jealousy. I think Izana's writing is poor. I mean that's not a solid reason to justify his actions. who would be willing to kill his sister just to take revenge on his brother? He is going too far just to take revenge of Shinichiro from Mikey. Don't you think so?. Even Kisaki's writing is good. We are made to hate him more and more after every episode.

Kisaki’s motivations for what he does throughout the whole show is not justifiable. Trust me on this one!

Dec 13, 2023 12:52 AM

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Ugly11 said:

Obito_Uchiha00 said:
At first, I was not sure if it was Izana's jealousy or something else but After watching the 11th episode I am sure it was just his jealousy. I think Izana's writing is poor. I mean that's not a solid reason to justify his actions. who would be willing to kill his sister just to take revenge on his brother? He is going too far just to take revenge of Shinichiro from Mikey. Don't you think so?. Even Kisaki's writing is good. We are made to hate him more and more after every episode.

Kisaki’s motivations for what he does throughout the whole show is not justifiable. Trust me on this one!

I agree with you to some extent. Kisaki's motive is to take control of Toman and turn it into a visicous gang and eventually take control of whole city. This is a motive that any typical villain would have. His actions may seem too much but his motive is also big. But i don't understand Izana's.

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Dec 13, 2023 1:24 AM

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Obito_Uchiha00 said:

Ugly11 said:

Kisaki’s motivations for what he does throughout the whole show is not justifiable. Trust me on this one!

I agree with you to some extent. Kisaki's motive is to take control of Toman and turn it into a visicous gang and eventually take control of whole city. This is a motive that any typical villain would have. His actions may seem too much but his motive is also big. But i don't understand Izana's.

That isn’t his true motivations, you’ll learn then in the next episode most likely

Dec 13, 2023 1:28 AM

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SparCy said:

Obito_Uchiha00 said:

I agree with you to some extent. Kisaki's motive is to take control of Toman and turn it into a visicous gang and eventually take control of whole city. This is a motive that any typical villain would have. His actions may seem too much but his motive is also big. But i don't understand Izana's.

That isn’t his true motivations, you’ll learn then in the next episode most likely

oh. Ok, i will wait.

Dec 13, 2023 1:30 AM

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We just had a whole episode dedicated to showing how a character is clinically insane. Of course there has to be someone who will try to judge the character by standard sane human morals and call it bad writing.

Dec 13, 2023 1:57 AM

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Obito_Uchiha00 said:

Ugly11 said:

Kisaki’s motivations for what he does throughout the whole show is not justifiable. Trust me on this one!

I agree with you to some extent. Kisaki's motive is to take control of Toman and turn it into a visicous gang and eventually take control of whole city. This is a motive that any typical villain would have. His actions may seem too much but his motive is also big. But i don't understand Izana's.

Kisaki's true motive is different, it is actually

Dec 13, 2023 2:01 AM

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Radusili said:
We just had a whole episode dedicated to showing how a character is clinically insane. Of course there has to be someone who will try to judge the character by standard sane human morals and call it bad writing.

Hmm, i see. I am not comparing him to human morales. I understand this is anime. I am also comparing him to anime villains. I have not seen any villain having a motive like izana. I also like him like he is cool and strong but not his motive

Dec 13, 2023 2:20 AM

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I can understand your point but remember that his hero and older brother ( Shinichiro Sano ) was killed by Mikey's comrades. That can highly contribute for his mental collapse and the desire of revenge.

Dec 13, 2023 2:30 AM

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Sonicblue51 said:
I can understand your point but remember that his hero and older brother ( Shinichiro Sano ) was killed by Mikey's comrades. That can highly contribute for his mental collapse and the desire of revenge.

You have got a point here and i know this fact already and i am not confused on this point. I was shocked when he allowed kisaki to kill his sister just for revenge while his sister had nothing to do with this fight. This point touched me the most and then I began to question his motive.

Dec 13, 2023 2:36 AM

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Obito_Uchiha00 said:

Sonicblue51 said:
I can understand your point but remember that his hero and older brother ( Shinichiro Sano ) was killed by Mikey's comrades. That can highly contribute for his mental collapse and the desire of revenge.

You have got a point here and i know this fact already and i am not confused on this point. I was shocked when he allowed kisaki to kill his sister just for revenge while his sister had nothing to do with this fight. This point touched me the most and then I began to question his motive.

Izana probabbly wanted Mikey to feel how it is to lose someone dear to him. After all, Izana was s instable person since he was young, feels bad for him to lose the unique person that he truly followed.

Dec 13, 2023 2:58 AM

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Obito_Uchiha00 said:

Sonicblue51 said:
I can understand your point but remember that his hero and older brother ( Shinichiro Sano ) was killed by Mikey's comrades. That can highly contribute for his mental collapse and the desire of revenge.

You have got a point here and i know this fact already and i am not confused on this point. I was shocked when he allowed kisaki to kill his sister just for revenge while his sister had nothing to do with this fight. This point touched me the most and then I began to question his motive.

I totally get why you’re shocked by his actions and motives. To think this was all set into motion the instant Izana learnt of Mikey’s existence. It’s like something snapped inside of him when he heard Mikey’s name

Dec 13, 2023 5:16 AM

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Radusili said:
We just had a whole episode dedicated to showing how a character is clinically insane. Of course there has to be someone who will try to judge the character by standard sane human morals and call it bad writing.

That's what I figured, too. They said multiple times throughout the episode that he was insane, so obviously their motive is gonna sound weird

Dec 13, 2023 8:28 AM

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I can't get into Izana, he doesn't make me want to invest myself in him as a character, at some point I hoped they were going to kill him... Because of how boring he is

He looks cool, but that's where it ends

Dec 13, 2023 8:37 AM

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The fight should have been gone longer.. and the confession of the brothers should have been in the last... it's just lame to see the character getting defeated easily... also the jealousy concept doesn't fit well with the hatred he has got.. there should have been some other reason for the hatred..

Dec 14, 2023 8:15 AM

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Yes, indeed it was.

Dec 14, 2023 4:35 PM

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Obito_Uchiha00 said:
At first, I was not sure if it was Izana's jealousy or something else but After watching the 11th episode I am sure it was just his jealousy. I think Izana's writing is poor. I mean that's not a solid reason to justify his actions. who would be willing to kill his sister just to take revenge on his brother? He is going too far just to take revenge of Shinichiro from Mikey. Don't you think so?.

tokyo revengers has characters who are pretty morally grey and have some insane personalities. the human mind is complex and in this case saying that he is reasoning is just “jealousy” barely covers it. we are watching an anime about 13-18 year old CHILDREN in gangs. the people who come out on top are usually not the sane ones. and for a lot of them the build up to join the gang world started young for them (i.e. hakkai).

izana has already shown that he lacks empathy. like kazutora, he has some severe mental health issues with no support for them due to the lack of adults in their lives. aka izana in an orphanage and kazutora with an abusive father. they are children created by the environment that raised them. it’s as simple as that.

izana knows the real reason why he was given up. he knows why he ended up in that orphanage. he’s never had any positive role model to support him in his life. and suddenly shinichiro comes strolling in and izana’s world is turned upside down because there is someone who cares about him.

i’ve seen this before. when you’ve never anyone in your life to show you any good. when you finally get it you cling to it like it’s your life support. people like this don’t usually like the idea of “sharing”. that person is there person and no one else’s. how dare there be someone else that takes away from you? again, i say this with experience as i’ve been in shinichiro’s place before.

add that to already being mentally unstable… and you get this combo.

Dec 15, 2023 5:49 PM

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Technically, yes, I believe it to be the cause of it all. Except, I wouldnʼt call it just jealousy, because behold how destructive it is.

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