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Jul 18, 2022 2:08 PM
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So I went into a few discussions here on MAL and reddit regarding the point distribution now that the results are out and it seems there was an additional rule whereby the VIP's class would receive -50 points if he/she is guessed correctly by someone else. But this rule is completely missing in the first episode no matter how many times I replay it.

Is this intentional or a huge mistake on the studio's part??

If you are an anime only who understood the rules without taking help from LN readers, you would be completely under the wrong assumptions about what the classes are trying to achieve and what their actions are aimed at and how the point distribution might have come to be as it is now. I seriously thought class A gave 4 wrong answers until knowing about the rules in the LN since that's the only possible way to get negative points if going by the rules in the anime only.
Jul 18, 2022 2:46 PM
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What is the LN volume equivalent to S2?
Jul 18, 2022 2:49 PM
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Seems to be missed. But if that's the case, there must be something else missing, as the results don't add up to net 0 class points due to all 4 results being net 0 class points? Is there some other rules that results in net plus or minus of class points?
Jul 18, 2022 2:53 PM
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Doorhead said:
What is the LN volume equivalent to S2?

Vol. 4 would cover the episodes that the anime has covered thus far
Jul 18, 2022 2:54 PM
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chen52808 said:
Seems to be missed. But if that's the case, there must be something else missing, as the results don't add up to net 0 class points due to all 4 results being net 0 class points? Is there some other rules that results in net plus or minus of class points?

What do you mean? I could try to help you out but I don’t quite get what you’re asking
Jul 18, 2022 2:54 PM
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Doorhead said:
What is the LN volume equivalent to S2?

this exam occurs in volume 4
Jul 18, 2022 2:55 PM
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_ATG_ said:
So I went into a few discussions here on MAL and reddit regarding the point distribution now that the results are out and it seems there was an additional rule whereby the VIP's class would receive -50 points if he/she is guessed correctly by someone else. But this rule is completely missing in the first episode no matter how many times I replay it.

Is this intentional or a huge mistake on the studio's part??

If you are an anime only who understood the rules without taking help from LN readers, you would be completely under the wrong assumptions about what the classes are trying to achieve and what their actions are aimed at and how the point distribution might have come to be as it is now. I seriously thought class A gave 4 wrong answers until knowing about the rules in the LN since that's the only possible way to get negative points if going by the rules in the anime only.

You're right they made a huge oversight there. I think they simply forgot to include the -50 in the third rule. I myself didn't even catch it, since I automatically thought guessing a leader means -50.
Jul 18, 2022 3:07 PM
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chen52808 said:
Seems to be missed. But if that's the case, there must be something else missing, as the results don't add up to net 0 class points due to all 4 results being net 0 class points? Is there some other rules that results in net plus or minus of class points?


Well yes, you're right, the math simply doesn't work, since when you take everything away you are left with 50 points. I myself am not sure if that is an oversight or an intentional thing. The only reason I could think class A got another -50 to their score is because of the absence of Arisu Sakayanagi(the chick who played chess in S1). Remember they lost 30 points on the island exam since she also didn't attend that test as well. She stayed in school instead of going on the boat because of her health issues. Now, this is simply headcanon for now, but that is the best guess I can find. And honestly, with that, the numbers do add up and even most of the hidden plots of V4 are covered with how the points were distributed.
Jul 18, 2022 3:08 PM
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Oremonogatari said:
chen52808 said:
Seems to be missed. But if that's the case, there must be something else missing, as the results don't add up to net 0 class points due to all 4 results being net 0 class points? Is there some other rules that results in net plus or minus of class points?

What do you mean? I could try to help you out but I don’t quite get what you’re asking


From episode 3, it looks like the results were:

Given that the 4 results are all net 0 CP, these results should not be possible. Either there are extra bonus/penalties, or something in the rules presented is incorrect.

If you start with an empty result of all classes at 0 CP change, the sum of the results is 0 CP change. If you add only net 0 result group results, the sum of results will stay at 0. For cases 3 and 4, the winner class gets 50CP while the loser class loses 50CP, making the net change to CP in the system 0. For cases 1 and 2 there seems to be no CP change at all.
Jul 18, 2022 3:25 PM

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_ATG_ said:

Is this intentional or a huge mistake on the studio's part??

If you are an anime only who understood the rules without taking help from LN readers, you would be completely under the wrong assumptions about what the classes are trying to achieve and what their actions are aimed at and how the point distribution might have come to be as it is now. I seriously thought class A gave 4 wrong answers until knowing about the rules in the LN since that's the only possible way to get negative points if going by the rules in the anime only.

You see~ this problem is not new to this season 2, but originated from the mess caused by multiple changes in season 1.
Before season 2 start, some people make a prediction that the studio might treat as if season 1 never happened and make season 2 follow the LN normally. But alas, they decided to keep the problem from season 1 in season 2. So at this point, just take every L they throw at us I guess?

As for me, I already lost hope and just want to see my beautiful wife Hiyori appear on screen and hear her beautiful voice lol.
Jul 19, 2022 11:12 AM
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_ATG_ said:
So I went into a few discussions here on MAL and reddit regarding the point distribution now that the results are out and it seems there was an additional rule whereby the VIP's class would receive -50 points if he/she is guessed correctly by someone else. But this rule is completely missing in the first episode no matter how many times I replay it.

Is this intentional or a huge mistake on the studio's part??

If you are an anime only who understood the rules without taking help from LN readers, you would be completely under the wrong assumptions about what the classes are trying to achieve and what their actions are aimed at and how the point distribution might have come to be as it is now. I seriously thought class A gave 4 wrong answers until knowing about the rules in the LN since that's the only possible way to get negative points if going by the rules in the anime only.


Case 1: 500 000 personal points to All. VIP 1 000 000 (Double), no Class Points change.
Case 2: 500 000 personal points to VIP only, no Class Points change.
Case 3: 500 000 personal points to the person who guessed correctly. + 50 Class Points to the Class the person who guessed correctly belongs.
Case 4: - 50 Class Points for the Class the person who guessed wrong belongs to. + 50 Class points for the Class VIP belongs to and 500 000 Private Points goes to the VIP.

It's all in episode 1.

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