Why do BNHA fans complain about Momo's hero outfit but not Kirishima's?

MinorTatu said:
They're basically the same thing, and I think Kirishima's hero outfit is pretty cool. And I think Momo's outfit make sense given her ability

But a lot of people say Momo's chest gap is unnecessary, despite the reasoning for it.

Fine, if we take necessity aside, why can't it just be aesthetic similiar to Kirishima's? Even Bakugo has his arms exposed in his summer outfit, and no one is gonna complain about Bakugo, so I can't understand the "it's not safe to be exposed" argument

MinorTatu said:
They're basically the same thing, and I think Kirishima's hero outfit is pretty cool. And I think Momo's outfit make sense given her ability

But a lot of people say Momo's chest gap is unnecessary, despite the reasoning for it.

Fine, if we take necessity aside, why can't it just be aesthetic similiar to Kirishima's? Even Bakugo has his arms exposed in his summer outfit, and no one is gonna complain about Bakugo, so I can't understand the "it's not safe to be exposed" argument

Avicebrons said:

Because one has breasts and the other doesn't? It's really not that difficult to understand.

_REDOX_ said:


The chest gap is indeed useless coz the torso would be better for the purposes of large creations

Solace546 said:
Alright just to argue, let me just say that one example to give is that men can be shirtless (and are) all the time during summer or at the beach. If you saw a women shirtless I'm sure you'd have a very different reaction.

(Also just because it's weird that a straight man drew a 15y/o girl with her boobs hanging out)

Avicebrons said:

Because one has breasts and the other doesn't? It's really not that difficult to understand.

MoonStar9 said:
I don't mind it. I like the leotard since I'm a classic superhero comic book reader. It's also why All Might and Nejire have the best costumes in the series to me.

I just think it's weird that Mirio can incorporate his hair into fabric that allows it to phases through solid matter with him and Mineta can do the same so his Pop-off Quirk doesn't rip his mask, yet Momo and Hagakure can't do something similar so their Quirks work without tearing their clothes or walking around stark naked.

MinorTatu said:


So? What's the big deal ?

emmamayann_96 said:
I don’t really have so much of a problem with Momo’s costume as I do a question about it. Like she’s got a sizable chest, and realistically her ladies would not be sitting pretty like that in her costume. So unless she’s got pasties built/sewn into her costume, then I’m still left wondering.
But I do agree that the open space on her chest and torso is necessary for her quirk. It just wouldn’t be practical without something like built/sewn in pasties to keep her ladies from jumping out.

For those of you who don’t know what pasties are, they’re basically sticky boobie cups that women can wear in strapless outfits.

MinorTatu said:


Well there are a lot of examples of physics defying stuff in My Hero. Some examples would be Kirishima and Momo's hair. Or most obviously, All Might. I don't see why breasts is the only time people want physics. Otherwise we'd "realistically" need jiggle physics every episode

MinorTatu said:


So? What's the big deal ?

SenseiC_ said:


because ppl think that breasts are too mature for 13 year olds

Avicebrons said:

It has nothing to do with "omg breasts I'm so scared, I'm not allowed to see that". It's simply that breasts are inherently sexual. In certain places, if you walk around shirtless as a man then it's fine. If you do it as a woman then you can get arrested. And that's because people understand that women and men are sexualized in different ways. So even if Momo and Kirishima have have the same costumes, it comes across very differently. It's ignorant to insinuate that this isn't the case.

I can also state that I don't think Kirishima's costume is good for that matter. But Momo's costumes is used to sexualize her in a way that Kirishima isn't. That's the difference. Personally I don't really care since they both have a bad costume and I don't particularly like MHA. But it's not exactly difficult to understand why there's a difference between the two. And it's also not difficult to understand why people might find the sexualization of characters to be degrading to their character as a whole, even if it contextually make sense.

MinorTatu said:
1) There are cultures where women walk around nakedless so that argument doesn't hold.

MinorTatu said:
2) Some would say that lips are inherently sexual. Lips play a big role in sex, nowadays people becoming fans of big lips. Shouldn't we therefore hide lips as well?

MinorTatu said:
3) I'm not ingorant, you just lack the ability to think freely

MinorTatu said:
4) Pretty ignorant of you to assume Kirishima's outfit doesn't turn people on

MinorTatu said:
5) One day you will be free from the logic of boobs bad

MinorTatu said:


I understand for Hagakure, but I don't see what kind of fabric would prevent Momo from ripping her clothes when squeezes a canon out of herself. Unless she made clothes made out of her skin cells?

Avicebrons said:
You seem to have missed the vast majority of my point.

You misunderstood my point if this is what you're replying with. My point was that there are places where you can't be topless as a woman because people there understand that breasts are a sexualized aspect of the female body, whilst the same isn't true for men and thus they want to prevent this sexualization. This has nothing to do with the fact that there are places where you can be topless as a woman.

Avicebrons said:

Not really no. And they are sexual in a different way. Also with every person you will find exceptions. But in general it's universal what parts of the body male and female respectively find sexual. It's biological that men find breasts sexual. This is why genitals and breasts are censored, but something like earlobes aren't, despite there existing some people out there who might find earlobes sexual.

Avicebrons said:

Don't really know what you wanted said with this. If you elaborated on what part I'm not thinking freely then I could at least respond to this. Because I'd say I'm being very open-minded in my statement. I never said what was the right side or the wrong side. I simply made effort to elaborate on why people of a specific side might think a certain way.

Avicebrons said:

I never once in my post said anything about Kirishima's outfit not turning some people on. So this is just putting words in my mouth. Like mentioned above, in general it's universal what is sexual. And Momo's outfit is more sexualized than Kirishima. But again, some people are turned on by earlobes so you could also say that Kyoka's outfit is extremely sexualized because she has exposed earlobes. But that's not really the point. This is talking in general.

Avicebrons said:

And once again, I never once even remotely said that boobs are bad. So it seems like my entire point just went way over your head. I said that they are sexual, and thus if you put effort to showcase them on a character, then you will have sexualized the character. I never said that sexualizing them is bad either. Sexualizing characters can even be a positive thing if it's done right. For instance, femme fatale type characters tend to be sexualized for good reasons.

MoonStar9 said:


It should work the same way Minets's Pop-off works with his cowl. Her hair has cells in them too. If the objects she create pass through her skin without damaging it they should be able to pass through clothes made from her hair. In fact, a costume she create with her Quirk should theoretically have this function since everything she makes is made up of her own lipids. I feel like it's easier making an excuse for that than phasing through solid matter.

MinorTatu said:
Then tell yourself that the My Hero world is one of those places where you can be topless (or skimpy in this case) as a woman

MinorTatu said:
You're assessing how appropriate it is for Yaoyorozu to be dressed the way she is from your own (as cliche as it sounds) societal conventions. It's very possible there's a culture of My Hero viewers who watch the show and see no issue with her clothing.

MinorTatu said:
But if we're going by biology then you have to acknowledge that females are attracted to strength, and Kiroshima's ripped abdomen is an indication of that. Since biologically women are attracted to strength and muscles, we should censor Kirishima's muscles. Moreover, I think you mean it's evolutionary for men to find breasts sexually attractive not biological. It is biological but that applies to many things. If I'm turned on by feet and they excite me, that feeling is a result of my brain's biology.

MinorTatu said:
I'm not putting words in your mouth, you said Kirishima's costume isn't used to sexualise him. But if people perceive his outfit sexually, wouldn't you consider the outfit sexual? Unless to you an outfit is only sexual if the author intentionally creates it to arouse people. Which in that case, how do you know Horikoshi didn't just create Yaoyorozu's costume simply and purely as a response to her quirk?

There is no in general. A minority of people have a foot fetish yet a lot would consider a My Hero chapter dedicated to showcasing girls' feet as sexual. It's all subjective.

MinorTatu said:
But yes, you did. You said a sexualised character can be seen as degrading, and from what you've been saying Momo would be included in that simply because she has her boobs out (despite it having a purpose). Whereas Kirishima who also has his chest exposed isn't degrading, probably because he has no boobs.

MinorTatu said:


Has Yaoyorozu ever made objects phase out of her scalp?

MinorTatu said:


I understand for Hagakure, but I don't see what kind of fabric would prevent Momo from ripping her clothes when squeezes a canon out of herself. Unless she made clothes made out of her skin cells?

MinorTatu said:
They're basically the same thing, and I think Kirishima's hero outfit is pretty cool. And I think Momo's outfit make sense given her ability

But a lot of people say Momo's chest gap is unnecessary, despite the reasoning for it.

Fine, if we take necessity aside, why can't it just be aesthetic similiar to Kirishima's? Even Bakugo has his arms exposed in his summer outfit, and no one is gonna complain about Bakugo, so I can't understand the "it's not safe to be exposed" argument

CalicoTaco said:
The main problem is that Kirishimas outfit is used to show strength and masculinity while Momos is mostly for s**ual appeal. It’s very easy to think they’re the same cause I used to as well but it’s simply not

MinorTatu said:
They're basically the same thing, and I think Kirishima's hero outfit is pretty cool. And I think Momo's outfit make sense given her ability

But a lot of people say Momo's chest gap is unnecessary, despite the reasoning for it.

Fine, if we take necessity aside, why can't it just be aesthetic similiar to Kirishima's? Even Bakugo has his arms exposed in his summer outfit, and no one is gonna complain about Bakugo, so I can't understand the "it's not safe to be exposed" argument

Edit: The point is Kirishima's chest gap is less necessary than Momo's. Momo at least got some semblance of an explanation, Kirishima just walks around shirtless for nothing. There are just as many girls turned on by Kirishima's abs and pecs as there are guys turned on by Momo's babas. And besides, even if Momo was fully clothed she'd still get sexualised by the fanbase. It happens with Uraraka, it happens with Bakugo. Genitals aren't comparable to breasts, so don't try approach. Dick = Vagina, Dick ≠ Boobs.

There's a culture of censoring body parts that are deemed as attractive to the male gaze, that's why people wish for boobs and female ass to be censored, whereas showing a guy's ass isn't as controversial. But these are conventions from men from hundreds of years ago, and men from hundreds of years ago didn't know that girls could get horny too. That's why people who aren't free thinkers react badly to Momo's outfit but not Kirishima's even though they're essentially the same thing and cause the same effect in viewers who are attracted to them.

richardsond said:
Yes yes, I am a complainer about Momos hero outfit. Why the gap in her chest? Is it really necessary? If that was covered up she could always open it up. Also Kiris outfit is cool, and because it’s not that inappropriate. Momo is a girl and for everyone to be seeing that is very inappropriate. Some people even find it disturbing. Please no one reply hate because it’s my own opinion and I dont really care because hate does nothing.

slimepoop said:
Well you don’t see kirishima’s meat hanging out but you see like 2/3 of momo’s chest. Men without shirts aren’t sexualized like a woman showing major cleavage. This is one of those arguments where the “equality” card doesn’t fit.