| So I recently was introducing someone to the Qin's Moon series, & I came to the realization that MAL doesn't have everything made in that franchise listed. Since I took the trouble to write this for that person, I figured someone on your staff might also find it helpful in editing not only at least one missing entry (but there are actually 3 missing entries), but also in straightening out which special is a side story to which season. Right now, all the specials are listed for every season, which is going to mislead people into watching the specials before they even know the characters those specials are about. Of special note: Qin Shi Ming Yue: Tian Xing Jiu Ge (9 Songs of the Moving Heavens), the spin-off series, shouldn't be listed until Season 4 of Qin's Moon. The events/characters in it aren't introduced/explained until Season 4, Episode 11. Also, the 3-episode special, Birdsong in Hollow Valley, isn't a special related to Qin's Moon, but instead to 9 Songs of the Moving Heavens, the above-mentioned spin-off series. Qin's Moon: in story chronological order: Movie: Qin Shi Ming Yue 3D: Dianying Longteng Wanli (Qin's Moon 3D Movie: Soaring Dragon - don't skip this - it's amazing!!) The movie takes place just before the events of the 1st season. Season 1: Qin Shi Ming Yue: Bai Bu Fei Jian (Hundred Steps Flying Sword) 10 episodes Season 2: Qin Shi Ming Yue: Ye Jin Tianming (Night Ends - Daybreak) 18 episodes Season 3: Qin Shi Ming Yue: Zhu Zi Bai Jia (Hundred Schools of Thought) 34 episodes Season 4: Qin Shi Ming Yue: Wanli Changcheng (The Great Wall) 37 episodes Season 5: Qin Shi Ming Yue: Junlin Tianxia (The Emperor Under Heaven) 75 episodes (of which, only 68 have been translated so far) Adding all of that above = 167 regular episodes, 1 feature length movie. In addition to these are several 1 episode (or shorter) specials (they are about specific characters). I recommend watching them AFTER you've watched all the regular episodes of Qin's Moon, otherwise, you won't know the characters involved: Qin Shi Ming Yue: Luosheng Tangxia (Under Luosheng Tang): Side story about Shao Siming (who doesn't appear until Season 3 - although we see her briefly, without introduction, in the movie). Qin Shi Ming Yue: Di Zi Jiang Xi (Lady Xiang Descends): Side story about Lord Shun & Lady Xiang, who are in the leadership of the Yin Yang School (the bad guys) who do not appear until Season 3. Qin Shi Ming Yue: Yizhe Rushi (Entrance of the Doctor): Side story about Duanmu Rong, a central character starting from the 1st season. Qin Shi Ming Yue: Season 5, Episode 15.5: a short with General Zhang (he is a major supporting character starting in Season 5) as the focal point called "The Incisive General Zhang Studio" (FUNNY) Qin Shi Ming Yue: Chinese New Year 2016 Special Edition: the title is pretty self-explanatory. And that brings you to 172 episodes. But WAIT, there's MORE! There is also a spin-off series: Qin Shi Ming Yue: Tian Xing Jiu Ge (9 Songs of the Moving Heavens), that currently has 42 of the total 60 episodes translated. There is one 3-episode special called Qin Shi Ming Yue: Kong Shan Niao Yu (Birdsong in Hollow Valley) - the story told here is related to the 9 Songs of the Moving Heavens series, doesn't matter if you watch it before or during 9 Songs, just make sure you know who Nong Yu is (whether you learn who she is from the 3 episodes or from 9 Songs episodes). And the final total of available episodes (drumroll): 217 episodes. Sorry it's so much to read, but it should clarify things. |
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| I had thought the 3rd entry missing was the special "The Incisive Gen. Zhang Studio," aka Episode 15.5 of Seas 5. It is listed as a separate special on the official site. But I just found it listed in the related In regards to the specials: I only called them side stories for lack of a better word. MAL actually has them listed as spin-offs. However, my issue is each one should only be viewed after the character who is explored in each special has actually been introduced in the main episodes - and 9 Songs of the Moving Heavens is only a spinoff of Season 4 & newer. Specifically Season 4, Episode 11 is the first mention of Han Fe, the mc of 9 Songs.i The problem with how it is now is that seems like the MAL page is saying there's no need to worry about where you are in the series, go ahead & watch the specials. Which is not true; you'll either be confused by not knowing who the heck the person the special is about is, or in some cases, you're gonna end up spoiling stuff for yourself inadvertently, if you watch them all willy-nilly. Insofar as who should make these changes, I thought about making them myself, & who knows, I may still make the changes myself. But with this post, at least, now, if someone who has more experience with editing MAL's database sees this & decides to help, that's fine, too. |
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| They don't actually look as dated as you might think - when you consider this series began in 2007. Not to mention that the action far exceeds anything else put out at that time. Trust me, I was fully blown away when I first watched this series. I'm not sure what you mean the first four seasons of Qin's Moon being "intimidating," but I can tell you that watching the 5th season without watching the first four is pointless. Also, in no way is 9 Songs "mostly independent stories." I don't know where you got that information, but it is 100% wrong. 9 Songs of the Moving Heavens is the story of the fall of the Han Kingdom, and also serves as the origin story for Quicksand, the assassin group which plays a major role in Qin's Moon, and is led by Wei Zhuang, who is the main antagonist of the first 2 seasons, & continues to be a main character throughout the series. Several very important characters' origins are explored thoroughly in 9 Songs. The allure for most people of both Qin's Moon and 9 Songs stories is the sheer complexity of it all - intimidating or not, it is all a very wonderfully woven, stunningly complicated web of intricate details, so for the listings on MAL not to reflect that - well, it's a shame, but I defer to those who know the database better than I. |
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| @Jyzal I don't really see how Luosheng could be considered just a commercial, since Luosheng is backstory for Shao Siming. The same goes for Entrance of the Doctor - fan fiction or not, the studio did adapt it. Tell anyone who is a fan of fate/kaleid liner prisma illya that it's just fan fiction, & you'll likely hear a litany of reasons why they believe it's still a vital part of the Fate/Stay Night stories. This is much the same - if they spent the money to make the special, it should be recognized, that's my opinion. Here's my point: anyone taking the time to look up all things Qin's Moon would find MAL woefully short on info, something I didn't realize MAL was fond of people thinking about it. A database of anime information should have information on ALL the anime related to a title, regardless of its origin, simply because it relates to a legitimate title in the first place. Then, someone seeking to watch everything made by the creators of Qin's Moon or whatever title can decide for themselves if they want to watch the specials or not. I think it's a little pretentious to decide for anyone what is or isn't worth telling them about. All that being said, I agree it isn't necessary to in the least to watch any of the specials - Birdsong in Hollow Valley included (it actually pains me to say that, because Birdsong is really really beautiful, and I'll never see Baifeng in quite the same light again, poor guy) - at least not in terms of understanding the main storyline. Then again, not even the feature length movie is necessary for that. But insofar as fleshing out the whole Qin's Moon Universe, and getting the most out of the story, all of it - including the Chinese New Year Special AND the funny General Zhang short are fantastic. Also, there are a TON of similar listings all over MAL for other series, like all the omake listings for anime. And I agree, I wish they'd hurry up and approve the listing for Douluo Dalu, I keep searching for it, trying to add it to my list, then realizing, "oh yeaaaahhhhh, this is THAT anime, duuuhhh, oh, man, they STILL haven't approved this one yet?" Season 2 is gonna come out before they even get around to approving the listing for Season 1, lmao. It certainly is nice to discuss Qin's Moon with someone who is clearly a fan, though! |
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