Phraze said: 1. Go back to D1 and read Kit's first post about her reads. She said that she thought Roz was scum for talking about mechanics and leaving.- from the flips so far, mafia isnt bussing. u expect Rosie on D2 to be so generous? - we alrdy had a convo about my alignment. lets turn the tables now, what is ur alignment? - do u want to catch scum or not? after 4 flips I'm sure town would be more than happy to see some bussing - u got it messed up there lol. her claim can be true, but she's townreading me. if her alignment is town and she agrees with me, wouldn't u say I'm town? it does have smthing to do with her alignment, since she reads me as town while saying she's town. 2. I am town. How does this help you exactly? 3. Yes, I do. I just think that the scum want us to go with the flow like we have been, and you are wanting that. 4. -head desk- |
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Gruffin said: - u said that Dono was inactive so u didnt want to lynch or question her. ur doing that to Kit nowI'd laugh if Cross and I managed to roll scum together again. xD Alas. Phraze said: WHAT CONTRADICTIONur gonna suspect me even when Kit is busy?? did u just contradict urself again? lay off if u got no idea, dont wine town pls lel. I alrdy asked if u wanted to hear my claim or not but u didnt reply. when I flavorclaimed u discredit it. if u didnt bother to hear my claim then don't try to discredit it. I said it for others, not u. also, I alrdy hinted stuff like genre and whether I liked the chara or not. its not as if I can prepare the fakeclaim in advance. I'm too lazy for that. come to think of it, my behavior is more solid proof then my mechanics(claim) so ofc I would rely on that the most. yet u want to discredit my behavior how much do u want to discredit about me? until I flip? isnt that banking on a flip? scummy dont u think I don't know??? Like, aren't all the PRs already outed by now anyway? Claiming this early is just bizarre. Literally where am I discrediting you. I've been pointing out things within your logic that either come from a scum mindset or don't add up. - nah. we only flavorclaimed the most. fullclaiming is still dangerous. but then again, u dont want to know so lets leave it at that. it would be susp if u wanted a fullclaim - the things u pointed out in ur longass post was just bits and pieces to my entire plan. if u can recall Cross, ur townread, saying - I had a net to try sort scum out. so...u want to discredit ur townread's opinion? same with Kit. pls answer~ - pls explain to me where my entire planning up to now has not added up. it would be amazing to hear |
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Gruffin said: - I alrdy saw her reads. she scumread Phraze and RE. voted RE. if u agree on Roz just lynch him and shut trapPhraze said: 1. Go back to D1 and read Kit's first post about her reads. She said that she thought Roz was scum for talking about mechanics and leaving.- from the flips so far, mafia isnt bussing. u expect Rosie on D2 to be so generous? - we alrdy had a convo about my alignment. lets turn the tables now, what is ur alignment? - do u want to catch scum or not? after 4 flips I'm sure town would be more than happy to see some bussing - u got it messed up there lol. her claim can be true, but she's townreading me. if her alignment is town and she agrees with me, wouldn't u say I'm town? it does have smthing to do with her alignment, since she reads me as town while saying she's town. 2. I am town. How does this help you exactly? 3. Yes, I do. I just think that the scum want us to go with the flow like we have been, and you are wanting that. 4. -head desk- - ok. I'm town. happy? now u just need to 'fakeclaim' a flavor and we can analyze that - theres a difference in tunneling and having a PoE. according to common sense(and some ppl I learned from), attempting to widen PoE is a scumtell. we alrdy have a PoE, but u want to throw it away. isnt that antitown? it isnt considered going with the flow cuz I've seen 101 reasons to divert our attention |
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| God Phraze please just read my posts. I actually have reason to question Kit because we disagree on reads and that will help me (and hopefully her) figure more things out. I don't know why you are bringing aa into this. Just because I townread someone doesn't mean I have to 100% agree with them. Like this wouldn't even be a game at all if we could magically agree with everyone on our team. I'm talking about your arguments. |
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RE1031 said: That's a fair point, but that's assuming that the lurking town would care less about their wincon than lurking scum would. Which...yeahhh I can see where that comes from? Since mafia are more closely tied to their team.Gruffin said: Scum care about the game. They care about maintaining an image that they're trying to solve it. Whereas town who are disengaged won't even bother. From my experience, if we're comparing all the lurkers/disengaged players to each other, town are the ones who are not going to be bothering to maintain that image whereas scum are going to be popping in just often enough.I was bringing up a possibility, mostly. Karote hasn't been showing that he cares about the game, unlike Kit. Rosie falls under this category alongside Kit. What are your thoughts on her? I've been having a gut feel that Rosie could be scum because she's getting townread over seemingly nothing. |
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Gruffin said: I'm reading lel. u happy with my 'town' answer?God Phraze please just read my posts. I actually have reason to question Kit because we disagree on reads and that will help me (and hopefully her) figure more things out. I don't know why you are bringing aa into this. Just because I townread someone doesn't mean I have to 100% agree with them. Like this wouldn't even be a game at all if we could magically agree with everyone on our team. I'm talking about your arguments. wasting time spreading paranoia on me while waiting for Kit is counterproductive. why not Roz who's ur scumread as well. why me? this is a game yes, but this is about teamwork. if u wanna ace this by urself u obv will lose. now start comparing reads. disagreeing with everyone u townread and their reads is just spreading confusion >.> |
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Phraze said: 1. -head desk-- I alrdy saw her reads. she scumread Phraze and RE. voted RE. if u agree on Roz just lynch him and shut trap - ok. I'm town. happy? now u just need to 'fakeclaim' a flavor and we can analyze that - theres a difference in tunneling and having a PoE. according to common sense(and some ppl I learned from), attempting to widen PoE is a scumtell. we alrdy have a PoE, but u want to throw it away. isnt that antitown? it isnt considered going with the flow cuz I've seen 101 reasons to divert our attention 2. I'm Chii Motosuwa from Chobits. ._. 3. Arggggg this isn't widening the PoE. PoE isn't even working obviously because we've only been lynching town so far. |
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Gruffin said: Roz firstRE1031 said: That's a fair point, but that's assuming that the lurking town would care less about their wincon than lurking scum would. Which...yeahhh I can see where that comes from? Since mafia are more closely tied to their team.Scum care about the game. They care about maintaining an image that they're trying to solve it. Whereas town who are disengaged won't even bother. From my experience, if we're comparing all the lurkers/disengaged players to each other, town are the ones who are not going to be bothering to maintain that image whereas scum are going to be popping in just often enough. Rosie falls under this category alongside Kit. What are your thoughts on her? I've been having a gut feel that Rosie could be scum because she's getting townread over seemingly nothing. |
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Gruffin said: believable. and its no fair u dont believe mine. I'm hurt xDPhraze said: 1. -head desk-- I alrdy saw her reads. she scumread Phraze and RE. voted RE. if u agree on Roz just lynch him and shut trap - ok. I'm town. happy? now u just need to 'fakeclaim' a flavor and we can analyze that - theres a difference in tunneling and having a PoE. according to common sense(and some ppl I learned from), attempting to widen PoE is a scumtell. we alrdy have a PoE, but u want to throw it away. isnt that antitown? it isnt considered going with the flow cuz I've seen 101 reasons to divert our attention 2. I'm Chii Motosuwa from Chobits. ._. 3. Arggggg this isn't widening the PoE. PoE isn't even working obviously because we've only been lynching town so far. we lynched cuz mistakes. 101 reasons. idk why but Sleipnirr is the 2nd to last all the time lmao. we'll go through with it this time. no wait, lets ditch Roz and agree on someone else. Cross. he's good at the panic disco |
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| after this convo I guess Cross should go first. lets pit Cross vs Roz and see who loses lel |
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| also @RE1031 I'm p sure Roz is scum for the refusal to coorporate and avoiding Cross like a disease. he should give us leads, not wine. Roz or Cross works |
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Phraze said: Okay, if it's roz up against anyone besides Kit/Gruffin/Crossbell, I'll go for roz.also @RE1031 I'm p sure Roz is scum for the refusal to coorporate and avoiding Cross like a disease. he should give us leads, not wine. Roz or Cross works |
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RE1031 said: lets stick to the plan this time. I cant take another round of this if he survivesPhraze said: Okay, if it's roz up against anyone besides Kit/Gruffin/Crossbell, I'll go for roz.also @RE1031 I'm p sure Roz is scum for the refusal to coorporate and avoiding Cross like a disease. he should give us leads, not wine. Roz or Cross works |
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Phraze said: I just really like the idea of roz telling the truth about being BG and taking the NK >w>RE1031 said: lets stick to the plan this time. I cant take another round of this if he survivesOkay, if it's roz up against anyone besides Kit/Gruffin/Crossbell, I'll go for roz. But yeah, let's not be too hopeful. Like how we shouldn't rely on @Sleipnirr to post his results... |
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RE1031 said: that would've helped lolPhraze said: I just really like the idea of roz telling the truth about being BG and taking the NK >w>lets stick to the plan this time. I cant take another round of this if he survives But yeah, let's not be too hopeful. Like how we shouldn't rely on @Sleipnirr to post his results... also kinda hoping @aa-dono wont get modkilled. being hopeful rly kills u. numbers are reliable |
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| I don't have a lot of time to do anything today but i know i should address some thing before leaving for work @re1031 @lastwhisper31 i just noticed you both end in 31 pinging since i think you two asked i tracked crossbell and saw him visit gruffin. reason, i tend to get paranoid of cross and wanted to try to sort him mechanically. it doesn't clear him but it does match up with his parity cop claim. Also RE i saw you criticize my claim for doing it after i criticized you... what i don't like about your claim is that you made a show of hinting at a power role but you didn't claim what it was. it's too easy for scum to do that. I didn't vaguely hint at a PR, and I claimed to confirm kasai. I'm almost never around so when am I going to find "the perfect time" to claim? @gruffin i think you pinged me too about your phraze thing. no time to go in depth but i think you're being paranoid. phraze is ez mislynch. she's clearly town to me. what do you think of roz, since he believes phraze to be scum too? i cant remember if you scum read him, but if you do then he'd have to be bussing for both him and phraze to be scum |
Kit said: this clears Gruffin to me. maybe u. opinions on CP/Abu/Rosie/Dono/Sleipnirr would be nice.i tracked crossbell and saw him visit gruffin. reason, i tend to get paranoid of cross and wanted to try to sort him mechanically. it doesn't clear him but it does match up with his parity cop claim. |
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| Got done with class, catching up now. |
| playing games with u are always painful. its a compliment lol |
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| It's how I play; take it or leave it. Last year I made the mistake of prioritizing mafia, and other games, over my schoolwork, and I won't be making the same mistake this year. |
| same with me. prioritizing online over rl is bad in many ways. tho the pain is in how ur so hard to case. its insane |
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Phraze said: @CorruptedPurity u say ur gambit townreads Abu, but he had an emotional post if u have the uncanny talent for wrongly reading ppl with emotional posts... Abu should be scum and u should know ur own alignment I rly doubt that is town/town One queston: Why do you think it can't be town/town? |
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| Matafaka matafaka roz is going to weasel out for 3 days in a row??? |
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Gruffin said: you keep trying to shift the focus, I specifically have no idea where to place Rosie yet and at least I haven't town read her, but I want to focus on the PoE's we have currently.RE1031 said: That's a fair point, but that's assuming that the lurking town would care less about their wincon than lurking scum would. Which...yeahhh I can see where that comes from? Since mafia are more closely tied to their team.Scum care about the game. They care about maintaining an image that they're trying to solve it. Whereas town who are disengaged won't even bother. From my experience, if we're comparing all the lurkers/disengaged players to each other, town are the ones who are not going to be bothering to maintain that image whereas scum are going to be popping in just often enough. Rosie falls under this category alongside Kit. What are your thoughts on her? I've been having a gut feel that Rosie could be scum because she's getting townread over seemingly nothing. |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Kit said: You're accusing me of hinting at being a PR so that I wouldn't get lynched. I honestly don't think I was in any danger of being lynched at the time. Would a full claim put you at ease? (This is a trick question, so answer carefully). Why did you feel the need to confirm Sleipnirr? And what is your current read of Cross?Also RE i saw you criticize my claim for doing it after i criticized you... what i don't like about your claim is that you made a show of hinting at a power role but you didn't claim what it was. it's too easy for scum to do that. I didn't vaguely hint at a PR, and I claimed to confirm kasai. I'm almost never around so when am I going to find "the perfect time" to claim? |
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CorruptedPurity said: Abu wanting to lynch CP and CP gambiting(?) on Abu. there was no outside pressure. I'd like to think that players have their ways to read ppl, and it isnt all just paranoia. there must be some truth smwhere. going after each other without much outside pressure means its instinctive, or scum theatre.Phraze said: @CorruptedPurity u say ur gambit townreads Abu, but he had an emotional post if u have the uncanny talent for wrongly reading ppl with emotional posts... Abu should be scum and u should know ur own alignment I rly doubt that is town/town One queston: Why do you think it can't be town/town? |
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CorruptedPurity said: Cross or Roz. either way works for me. it's a laugh I'm the first vote on the Cross train thoMatafaka matafaka roz is going to weasel out for 3 days in a row??? |
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| Uggh how convienent that Kit checked Cross. No, I won't pull off that ez, I don't consider myself the best player but i want to believe there is some method to how my brain works. All my scum leans are clearing each other through PRs, and it's just blows my mind. I will stick to what I think, Cross and Kit are still my scum PoEs. |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
lastwhisper31 said: dat feeling when mechanics and claims throw off my reads lolUggh how convienent that Kit checked Cross. No, I won't pull off that ez, I don't consider myself the best player but i want to believe there is some method to how my brain works. All my scum leans are clearing each other through PRs, and it's just blows my mind. I will stick to what I think, Cross and Kit are still my scum PoEs. I still like the 4 'this or that' options I outlined. tho Kit or Gruffin instead of me |
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RE1031 said: I want to add onto this. There is no perfect time to claim, unless you're clearing someone (including yourself) who's about to be mislynched or you've caught scum. Your claim does not fall under this, and neither does mine, but I'm willing to accept that I was caught off guard with Dias' question and made a move I didn't think through.Kit said: You're accusing me of hinting at being a PR so that I wouldn't get lynched. I honestly don't think I was in any danger of being lynched at the time. Would a full claim put you at ease? (This is a trick question, so answer carefully). Why did you feel the need to confirm Sleipnirr? And what is your current read of Cross?Also RE i saw you criticize my claim for doing it after i criticized you... what i don't like about your claim is that you made a show of hinting at a power role but you didn't claim what it was. it's too easy for scum to do that. I didn't vaguely hint at a PR, and I claimed to confirm kasai. I'm almost never around so when am I going to find "the perfect time" to claim? |
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RE1031 said: honestly I understand why you did it, but not why kit did it. I outlined before the kind of vibe hers gave me.RE1031 said: I want to add onto this. There is no perfect time to claim, unless you're clearing someone (including yourself) who's about to be mislynched or you've caught scum. Your claim does not fall under this, and neither does mine, but I'm willing to accept that I was caught off guard with Dias' question and made a move I didn't think through.You're accusing me of hinting at being a PR so that I wouldn't get lynched. I honestly don't think I was in any danger of being lynched at the time. Would a full claim put you at ease? (This is a trick question, so answer carefully). Why did you feel the need to confirm Sleipnirr? And what is your current read of Cross? |
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| @RE1031 @lastwhisper31 what do u think of Dias? I remember playing with him few times tho vaguely. is he town to u or...? |
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lastwhisper31 said: And I kind of think this worked out better in the long run. Had I denied that I used any kind of action night 1, there would be a contradiction between that and Dias' results (since he checked me and found out that I did use an action), and there would be unnecessary chaos.RE1031 said: honestly I understand why you did it, but not why kit did it. I outlined before the kind of vibe hers gave me.I want to add onto this. There is no perfect time to claim, unless you're clearing someone (including yourself) who's about to be mislynched or you've caught scum. Your claim does not fall under this, and neither does mine, but I'm willing to accept that I was caught off guard with Dias' question and made a move I didn't think through. @AlbertinoDias Can you explain why you wanted to know if Karote used an action? Because if I'm correct, you checked me night 1, and shouldn't have had any information on Karote? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Kit said: Explain your reads on these people, please:I have notes on my reads but not in an organized manner, so ask about my read on anyone and i'll reply (later) 1. Me 2. Kasai 3. Rosie 4. RE Thanks! Those are the players I am most interested in hearing your thought process about. |
Phraze said: Pretty sure he is town. Mainly due to his claim and the way he was found out through it. Like that felt like a genuine town slip and not a scum plotting to out PRs. Though I'm curious as to why Crossbell thought Dias would have been nightkilled.@RE1031 @lastwhisper31 what do u think of Dias? I remember playing with him few times tho vaguely. is he town to u or...? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Crossbell said: too many no, split between mafia and town, yes.Oh okay never mind, I see your reasoning for the Kasai read. Do you think that with my role + both of yours + yurkin + Dias's we have too many investigative roles @Kit ? |
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RE1031 said: lastwhisper31 said: And I kind of think this worked out better in the long run. Had I denied that I used any kind of action night 1, there would be a contradiction between that and Dias' results (since he checked me and found out that I did use an action), and there would be unnecessary chaos.honestly I understand why you did it, but not why kit did it. I outlined before the kind of vibe hers gave me. @AlbertinoDias Can you explain why you wanted to know if Karote used an action? Because if I'm correct, you checked me night 1, and shouldn't have had any information on Karote? Karote was planed for night 2, I wasn't expecting what happened yesterday, and if he was alive, I would ask him again in this day and another one preparing for the next day (and I did that BTW, but you'll have to figure that out ;) tomorrow if I'm alive I can really full claim, not today :) sorry, @phraze I can confirm you can flavour without problems because I have connects that helped me in that ;) |
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lastwhisper31 said: +∞Crossbell said: too many no, split between mafia and town, yes.Oh okay never mind, I see your reasoning for the Kasai read. Do you think that with my role + both of yours + yurkin + Dias's we have too many investigative roles @Kit ? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
RE1031 said: ok. I'll assume he's safely out of PoE. don't want a panic lynch on himPhraze said: Pretty sure he is town. Mainly due to his claim and the way he was found out through it. Like that felt like a genuine town slip and not a scum plotting to out PRs. Though I'm curious as to why Crossbell thought Dias would have been nightkilled.@RE1031 @lastwhisper31 what do u think of Dias? I remember playing with him few times tho vaguely. is he town to u or...? @Crossbell why did u think Dias might be NK'd? curious too |
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AlbertinoDias said: Okay, sounds good.RE1031 said: And I kind of think this worked out better in the long run. Had I denied that I used any kind of action night 1, there would be a contradiction between that and Dias' results (since he checked me and found out that I did use an action), and there would be unnecessary chaos. @AlbertinoDias Can you explain why you wanted to know if Karote used an action? Because if I'm correct, you checked me night 1, and shouldn't have had any information on Karote? Karote was planed for night 2, I wasn't expecting what happened yesterday, and if he was alive, I would ask him again in this day and another one preparing for the next day (and I did that BTW, but you'll have to figure that out ;) tomorrow if I'm alive I can really full claim, not today :) sorry, @phraze I can confirm you can flavour without problems because I have connects that helped me in that ;) |
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| @RE1031 I thought Dias would be nightkilled because it's the perfect framing opportunity for me: I visit Dias, Dias targets me, Sleipnirr tracks me to Dias's NK, and then he claims it and people would think that I was the one who killed Dias. That's why I moved my cop to dono, because I thought she was scum and if I got a "different" result then we would bag scum. I know that you asked me about my reasoning, I'll explain myself more in depth in a bit while I catch up. (Busy congratulating winner of mafia championships while doing this) |
AlbertinoDias said: good to know. I guess that was a trick question on me lol. full claim with no scum lynch is just bad..@phraze I can confirm you can flavour without problems because I have connects that helped me in that ;) |
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Crossbell said: this sounds legit. does that mean Gruffin and Dono are scumteam??@RE1031 I thought Dias would be nightkilled because it's the perfect framing opportunity for me: I visit Dias, Dias targets me, Sleipnirr tracks me to Dias's NK, and then he claims it and people would think that I was the one who killed Dias. That's why I moved my cop to dono, because I thought she was scum and if I got a "different" result then we would bag scum. I know that you asked me about my reasoning, I'll explain myself more in depth in a bit while I catch up. (Busy congratulating winner of mafia championships while doing this) |
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Phraze said: Crossbell said: this sounds legit. does that mean Gruffin and Dono are scumteam??@RE1031 I thought Dias would be nightkilled because it's the perfect framing opportunity for me: I visit Dias, Dias targets me, Sleipnirr tracks me to Dias's NK, and then he claims it and people would think that I was the one who killed Dias. That's why I moved my cop to dono, because I thought she was scum and if I got a "different" result then we would bag scum. I know that you asked me about my reasoning, I'll explain myself more in depth in a bit while I catch up. (Busy congratulating winner of mafia championships while doing this) well, if one is the yes, all on gruffin?? |
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| We should just let dono get modkilled first to see her alignment. Also my reads are completely terrible this game. I need to re-evaluate. |
Crossbell said: Yeah, that's what I thought too. I thought Dias would be nightkilled because it's the perfect framing opportunity for me: I visit Dias, Dias targets me, Sleipnirr tracks me to Dias's NK, and then he claims it and people would think that I was the one who killed Dias. That's why I moved my cop to dono, because I thought she was scum and if I got a "different" result then we would bag scum. I know that you asked me about my reasoning, I'll explain myself more in depth in a bit while I catch up. ...which reminds me, Dias is even more likely to be town based on asking you to visit him? Unless you two are buddies, but finding that very unlikely now. |
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Phraze said: why, I don't understand? Am I missing something? Uggh, w/e stay away from dono then, if u want to go for Griffin then so be it, but at least tell me why, I feel left out of the loop. And again feel at a loss of who to trustCrossbell said: this sounds legit. does that mean Gruffin and Dono are scumteam??@RE1031 I thought Dias would be nightkilled because it's the perfect framing opportunity for me: I visit Dias, Dias targets me, Sleipnirr tracks me to Dias's NK, and then he claims it and people would think that I was the one who killed Dias. That's why I moved my cop to dono, because I thought she was scum and if I got a "different" result then we would bag scum. I know that you asked me about my reasoning, I'll explain myself more in depth in a bit while I catch up. (Busy congratulating winner of mafia championships while doing this) |
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lastwhisper31 said: we go for Roz, if Dono flips scum thats a doublekill for us. if Dono flips town its likely that Cross and Gruffin are scum. Roz is the safest betPhraze said: why, I don't understand? Am I missing something? Uggh, w/e stay away from dono then, if u want to go for Griffin then so be it, but at least tell me why, I feel left out of the loop. And again feel at a loss of who to trustthis sounds legit. does that mean Gruffin and Dono are scumteam?? |
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