Grapefruit21 said: I'm not offended by the vote at all, just think it looks bad. What about Kit makes you want to investigate them? Yeah I knew that as I was doing that. So I made a choice. Just seems like everyone is really quick to trust them. I don't like it. She's never gotten scum before though, so its not like anyone would know how she would act. |
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Sonata said: @Suzune-chan maybe you're right and I was wrong, it just struck me as odd since I'm not as experienced as most of you are in reading day 1 behaviours (in fact I'm horrible at it, hence why I don't push for day 1 lynches ever). I was trying to put my thoughts on the table so I could hear everyone else's thoughts, and IIRC my post was just a follow up post to someone else thinking the same just minutes ago so I felt it wasn't that bad of a hunch. This game being so inactive really doesn't help the way I play either, because I can't look at the bigger picture when the whole picture is actually so small. As a result, the only things I kind of lean towards is grape being town and lamb being the unpredictable player he always is. The inactivity really hurts this game. However, I think because of the inactivity we need to be more careful of our posts and reads because that is all people are going to see. Your comment reads like a plant. As not much was going on, it created and idea that Sleip panicked over which lead to his exit from the game. So I find it odd and it makes me worry. |
 Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Oyasumi_Rosie said: This is so yucky. It screams scum motivation. Town should be direct with their feelings that fact that you were worried how people would responds means you are worried about something or have something to hide because you avoided a situation where you could be targeted by the crowd.If you want the truth, I kept my vote on you because I knew you wouldn't get lynch. I knew that not changing my vote would look bad, but there wasn't a single person I would have actually voted for. Sorry friend. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Grapefruit21 said: I'm not offended by the vote at all, just think it looks bad. What about Kit makes you want to investigate them? Yeah I knew that as I was doing that. So I made a choice. Just seems like everyone is really quick to trust them. I don't like it. She's never gotten scum before though, so its not like anyone would know how she would act. Then read through her posts and make a scum case on them. I trust them because they made a very strong town impression D1 on me. Her early posts with Ruu struck me as extremely t/t. @Ruu when you're online as a direction to help you catch up in I'd like your thoughts on Suzune. |
| @Kit do you really think that lamb was trying to figure out the game? I was surprise to see how chill he looked and he was on the lead and a likely candidate for lynching. He looked too calm for me, at that moment I thought it was because he was sure of his towniness and that he wouldn't get lynch but now I'm thinking "what if he knew he would get save by his partners somehow?". I'm not seeing his posts very protown. |
Suzune-chan said: But there was no one I scum read. You would rather I kill someone I felt was town through and through? I mean, I made myself a target just as much by not moving my vote, as I would voting for the wrong person. It seems like you read a little too much scum in my motivation. And if I was thinking more of people thought of me, why would I admit it now? I didn't do it by mistake that is for sure.Oyasumi_Rosie said: This is so yucky. It screams scum motivation. Town should be direct with their feelings that fact that you were worried how people would responds means you are worried about something or have something to hide because you avoided a situation where you could be targeted by the crowd.If you want the truth, I kept my vote on you because I knew you wouldn't get lynch. I knew that not changing my vote would look bad, but there wasn't a single person I would have actually voted for. Sorry friend. |
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| @Grapefruit21 Suzu is a hard player to read .She is still in my possible scum list and I don't think I could really trust her. Also for some reason that last post of her quoting Rosie screams scum!Suzu to me. |
Ruu said: @Grapefruit21 Suzu is a hard player to read .She is still in my possible scum list and I don't think I could really trust her. Also for some reason that last post of her quoting Rosie screams scum!Suzu to me. If I told you I very much agree with what Suzu is driving at with that post would it change your opinion at all? I'm not convinced Rosie is scum but I completely agree with everything suzu said in 403. I'm actually really liking Suzu toDay and the only reason I'm not adding them to my town block (Kit, Ruu, Claire) is because I'm salty they pocketed me last time. Behaviorally I'm seeing town there. Same thing on Phraze actually just to a much lesser extent. |
Oyasumi_Rosie said: What about now? Do you scum read people now? This seems like a back peddle to me. You could have said simply that you did not have anyone else to scum read adn therefore did not change your vote. Instead you said, because it made me look bad but I knew you wouldn't get lynched. This reads as a cop out defense to not participating and honestly, it reads like an avoidance of the vote count analysis. I have a hard time believing that you had no lynch targets at all day one that pinged you any way. When you admit mistakes it makes you look more honest.Suzune-chan said: But there was no one I scum read. You would rather I kill someone I felt was town through and through? I mean, I made myself a target just as much by not moving my vote, as I would voting for the wrong person. It seems like you read a little too much scum in my motivation. And if I was thinking more of people thought of me, why would I admit it now? I didn't do it by mistake that is for sure.This is so yucky. It screams scum motivation. Town should be direct with their feelings that fact that you were worried how people would responds means you are worried about something or have something to hide because you avoided a situation where you could be targeted by the crowd. Vote:Rosie Okay, that was silly. Edited to say Vote instead of lynch |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Suzune-chan said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: This is so yucky. It screams scum motivation. Town should be direct with their feelings that fact that you were worried how people would responds means you are worried about something or have something to hide because you avoided a situation where you could be targeted by the crowd.If you want the truth, I kept my vote on you because I knew you wouldn't get lynch. I knew that not changing my vote would look bad, but there wasn't a single person I would have actually voted for. Sorry friend. Yeeaahhh, just got home... din-din time but skimming the most recent page for an idea of where we're at before backing up to my last point. Trying your darnedest to get as little results is pretty disgusting. |
| Maybe I have a soft spot for aggro town that is being exploited but Suzune is town. @Ruu even if they aren't I don't think that Suzune will be able to keep playing this style without bussing or it becoming very obvious that Suzu is scum. |
π Vote Count 2.3 π π Phraze π (2): π Kit, Ruu π π Lam-B π (2): π Oyasumi_Rosie, Grapefruit21 π Rinto-kun (1): π Claire π Oyasumi_Rosie (1): π Suzune-chan π π΅ Not Voting π΅: β‘ Lam-B, Rinto-kun, Phraze, Sonata β‘ >>Day 2 Timer<< |
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Ruu said: @Grapefruit21 Suzu is a hard player to read .She is still in my possible scum list and I don't think I could really trust her. Also for some reason that last post of her quoting Rosie screams scum!Suzu to me. Can't tell if this is a joke or not..... Sure you can feel worse at reading into set players/styles which also varies depending on the speed of the game, current stage and their involvement but that last part is straight wut. On a side note, the current pacing of Suzu should be expected following activity and the time for phase changes. |
Grapefruit21 said: Ruu said: @Grapefruit21 Suzu is a hard player to read .She is still in my possible scum list and I don't think I could really trust her. Also for some reason that last post of her quoting Rosie screams scum!Suzu to me. If I told you I very much agree with what Suzu is driving at with that post would it change your opinion at all? I'm not convinced Rosie is scum but I completely agree with everything suzu said in 403. I'm actually really liking Suzu toDay and the only reason I'm not adding them to my town block (Kit, Ruu, Claire) is because I'm salty they pocketed me last time. Behaviorally I'm seeing town there. Same thing on Phraze actually just to a much lesser extent. I'm getting disgarea vibes that's what I mean. Don't you? She use the same move with me. |
Lam-B said: Ruu said: @Grapefruit21 Suzu is a hard player to read .She is still in my possible scum list and I don't think I could really trust her. Also for some reason that last post of her quoting Rosie screams scum!Suzu to me. Can't tell if this is a joke or not..... Sure you can feel worse at reading into set players/styles which also varies depending on the speed of the game, current stage and their involvement but that last part is straight wut. On a side note, the current pacing of Suzu should be expected following activity and the time for phase changes. Why so? |
| I'm here~ now... @Kit @Phraze who was your neighbor D1? told ya, it was Lamb. for him to lie about it says scum to me alrdy.@Ruu @Phraze lamb said you were lying what's your defense? you better come up with one if you don't want to get lynch... pfft like that's gonna lynch me. if there's one thing I don't do in mafia, it's lying. yes I may give wrong hints, but I don't blatantly lie. |
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Ruu said: this tells me Ruu is scum. vvvvOkay so after doing some reading this is what I can tell; scum is hiding in this list: > Phraze > Lamb > Suzu > Rinto > Rosie I'm leaning town with the rest and then.. there is @Sonata -_- she is a ghost at this point so I can't be sure of anything. It could be a lurker or an absent mafia (if so I feel bad for the scum team because I know what is like to have a ghost partner ;-; ) I'm think 3 mafias and a possible tpr (someone who was the normal lover role maybe?). The idea of a Lamb/Phraze team is not so crazy imo. Going after each other is a great way to get town cred. Also if there is a doctor can you protect me or grape tonight? I think we are the most likely targets. Also if there is a doctor can you protect me or grape tonight? I think we are the most likely targets. |
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| I'm thinking scum in: Lamb/Ruu/Rinto. maybe Suzu Vote: Lamb |
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Suzune-chan said: What about now? Do you scum read people now? This seems like a back peddle to me. You could have said simply that you did not have anyone else to scum read adn therefore did not change your vote. Instead you said, because it made me look bad but I knew you wouldn't get lynched. This reads as a cop out defense to not participating and honestly, it reads like an avoidance of the vote count analysis. I have a hard time believing that you had no lynch targets at all day one that pinged you any way. When you admit mistakes it makes you look more honest. Vote:Rosie Okay, that was silly. Edited to say Vote instead of lynch Umm, what? Have you not read the thread so far? Of course I scum read people now, there is something for me to actually look at now. And I already voted for Lam-b. Did you think that my vote is still on Grapefruit?? |
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Phraze said: Ruu said: this tells me Ruu is scum. vvvvOkay so after doing some reading this is what I can tell; scum is hiding in this list: > Phraze > Lamb > Suzu > Rinto > Rosie I'm leaning town with the rest and then.. there is @Sonata -_- she is a ghost at this point so I can't be sure of anything. It could be a lurker or an absent mafia (if so I feel bad for the scum team because I know what is like to have a ghost partner ;-; ) I'm think 3 mafias and a possible tpr (someone who was the normal lover role maybe?). The idea of a Lamb/Phraze team is not so crazy imo. Going after each other is a great way to get town cred. Also if there is a doctor can you protect me or grape tonight? I think we are the most likely targets. Also if there is a doctor can you protect me or grape tonight? I think we are the most likely targets. Lol I asked for protection because I was townread by a lot of people so I didn't want to die xDD but now that you bring it up that's right I used that line a lot even when scum xDD I'm concerned for real in this game thou. I don't know your scum game Phraze so I don't know if you lie or not when rolling scum. |
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Perhaps I was not clear. I am asking you looking back now. What might you have done. I am trying to see inside your head and push for your driving factors. Tell me where you are at in the game?Suzune-chan said: What about now? Do you scum read people now? This seems like a back peddle to me. You could have said simply that you did not have anyone else to scum read adn therefore did not change your vote. Instead you said, because it made me look bad but I knew you wouldn't get lynched. This reads as a cop out defense to not participating and honestly, it reads like an avoidance of the vote count analysis. I have a hard time believing that you had no lynch targets at all day one that pinged you any way. When you admit mistakes it makes you look more honest. Vote:Rosie Okay, that was silly. Edited to say Vote instead of lynch Umm, what? Have you not read the thread so far? Of course I scum read people now, there is something for me to actually look at now. And I already voted for Lam-b. Did you think that my vote is still on Grapefruit?? |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Phraze said: I'm thinking scum in: Lamb/Ruu/Rinto. maybe Suzu Vote: Lamb Now that's the Romeo I know and like. You suspecting me is a good sign (we have a sick relationship xD). |
| About to head out but for the time being @Ruu Suzu bussed you. If they're going to drive another bus that's not so bad for us. I happen to believe in Suzu this game, but I get why you're scared, I just think it's misplaced paranoia. @Phraze I'm fairly convinced the other direction on Ruu. I have a hard time believing they are scum in the interaction they had with kit starting here and continuing for a while. That is either t/t or Kit as scum and Ruu as town. |
Ruu said: Okay so after doing some reading this is what I can tell; scum is hiding in this list: > Phraze > Lamb > Suzu > Rinto > Rosie I'm leaning town with the rest and then.. there is @Sonata -_- she is a ghost at this point so I can't be sure of anything. It could be a lurker or an absent mafia (if so I feel bad for the scum team because I know what is like to have a ghost partner ;-; ) I'm think 3 mafias and a possible tpr (someone who was the normal lover role maybe?). The idea of a Lamb/Phraze team is not so crazy imo. Going after each other is a great way to get town cred. Also if there is a doctor can you protect me or grape tonight? I think we are the most likely targets. I fixed the list up a bit for the time being. As for theorizing as such.... not so crazy, but the reason behind it doesn't fit with me in the slightest, I never aim for town cred in the early game sadly enough. Directing the doctor publicly is quite a good joke, I can only hope they take the correct counter-measures. |
| @Ruu Lol I asked for protection because I was townread by a lot of people so I didn't want to die xDD but now that you bring it up that's right I used that line a lot even when scum xDD I'm concerned for real in this game thou. why so afraid to die? I remember u were frustrated being townread but didn't ask for protection in xmas mafia. and indeed, idek my own scumgameI don't know your scum game Phraze so I don't know if you lie or not when rolling scum. Now that's the Romeo I know and like. You suspecting me is a good sign (we have a sick relationship xD). yah let's make it sicker. jk |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Ruu said: Okay so after doing some reading this is what I can tell; scum is hiding in this list: > Phraze > Lamb > Suzu > Rinto > Rosie I'm leaning town with the rest and then.. there is @Sonata -_- she is a ghost at this point so I can't be sure of anything. It could be a lurker or an absent mafia (if so I feel bad for the scum team because I know what is like to have a ghost partner ;-; ) I'm think 3 mafias and a possible tpr (someone who was the normal lover role maybe?). The idea of a Lamb/Phraze team is not so crazy imo. Going after each other is a great way to get town cred. Also if there is a doctor can you protect me or grape tonight? I think we are the most likely targets. I was thinking that we should look more in to Suzu and Phaze, but I didn't have anything to bring up to support those feelings. I think Sonata is just a lurker. I am trying to remember their play from Haruhi, but I can't remember if they were town or scum lol. Oof, last post feeling a little ironic now. |
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Honestly though..... There would be about three mafia members right? I know I am not the third one, and I am pretty sure that it isn't Rinto. Based on that list anyways, gotta be lamb right? Not that I have anything to support this, not really. Are you and possibly Rinto the first and second one? Serious question. |
Grapefruit21 said: quote Ruu. vvvv@Phraze I'm fairly convinced the other direction on Ruu. I have a hard time believing they are scum in the interaction they had with kit starting here and continuing for a while. That is either t/t or Kit as scum and Ruu as town. (if so I feel bad for the scum team because I know what is like to have a ghost partner ;-; ) Also if there is a doctor can you protect me or grape tonight? I think we are the most likely targets. emotional appeal. Kit is always a neutral, Ruu should know that. as I've said before, Kit would be strange when she finally rolls scum, I haven't seen that happen yet. |
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_Claire_ said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: With a group this size, even if you not told, you can assume there are three mafia. That is just how a game this size is set up. So if their are three members of the mafia to find, my interest falls on Phaze/Suzu/Lamb D2. Like I said, I have no proof yet, and I haven't done my reread, so this could change. Pretty sure about the amount of mafia though No I mean, you arenot the third one, but it isnt Rinto for sure...? So you know two mafias...? :/ I dont understand the post. Glad I'm not the only one scratching my head on chewing away at others opinions, asking for more and then making statements that un-ironically don't even clear ones self in the end... not to mention having someone worth buddying up on is worrying in itself. |
| @Lam-B ur suddenly active when I pinned Ruu as scum. attempt to save a scumbud or urself, that is the question. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: _Claire_ said: Lamb wont give much to analyze even we have 10 votes against him anyway.. He is just that way. Not but it would be more interesting to look at why people pulled away from him in the first place. Maybe someone said something to all those players, and then we can find our leader. Well common sense will suggest people won't suddenly change their vote from someone before they even get the time to pop-in and do anything. You do know how interactions work, no? |
| @Phraze what you call an appeal to emotion came when there was zero pressure in the thread on Ruu. Usually an appeal to emotion comes when you're trying to avoid a lynch. |
Phraze said: Grapefruit21 said: quote Ruu. vvvv@Phraze I'm fairly convinced the other direction on Ruu. I have a hard time believing they are scum in the interaction they had with kit starting here and continuing for a while. That is either t/t or Kit as scum and Ruu as town. (if so I feel bad for the scum team because I know what is like to have a ghost partner ;-; ) Also if there is a doctor can you protect me or grape tonight? I think we are the most likely targets. emotional appeal. Kit is always a neutral, Ruu should know that. as I've said before, Kit would be strange when she finally rolls scum, I haven't seen that happen yet. Like I said 10000000 times I'm an emotional person. Also how is that emotional appeal? I made a fluff comment about not having a reliable scum birdie because Suzu and I went through that on our last game (which was bad for my heart lol <--- a joke NOT emotional appeal) And logic has also ask about the doctor's protection in other games and nobody scum read him for it xD I'm not participating in twin mafia so this is the only game I'm active atm. I don't want to die just because I'm the one who posts the most (seriously I'm feeling like the logic of this game). And I didn't know Kit was always a neutral |
Suzune-chan said: Perhaps I was not clear. I am asking you looking back now. What might you have done. I am trying to see inside your head and push for your driving factors. Tell me where you are at in the game? I guess I would have voted for Lam-b sooner, but that means literally nothing. I didn't have nearly the same amount of infomation that I do now. I did want I thought was best and I feel fine about it. If anything I wish I could have said something more to save Sliep, but there was nothing I could have done. I had no info to prove he was town, nor did I have a target that was better than him. But if you want to vote be me because I can't see the future, I guess that a reason I can't fight against. |
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π Vote Count 2.4 π π Lam-B π (3): π Oyasumi_Rosie, Grapefruit21, Phraze π Phraze (2): π Kit, Ruu π Rinto-kun (1): π Claire π Oyasumi_Rosie (1): π Suzune-chan π π΅ Not Voting π΅: β‘ Lam-B, Rinto-kun, Sonata β‘ >>Day 2 Timer<< |
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Ruu said: I'm not participating in twin mafia so this is the only game I'm active atm. I don't want to die just because I'm the one who posts the most (seriously I'm feeling like the logic of this game).l Ooh OOh! If you are truly Logic, I can't wait! We need walls and you to led lynches on towns! You can start with me if you want, I already got a vote on me! :3 (for those who can't tell, this is a joke) |
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Kit said: :/ ................. I guess if Mil and Sleip were neighbors, we have no VC now since both are dead Eugghhh bad choice of abbreviation, but yeahrp it's gone now with no results to speak of. If the other default role (doc) is the same as that, it should at-least suggest scum should have little to no PR, potential GF aside. |
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Thank you for the hand wave at the bottom, because clearly that is what I am saying.Suzune-chan said: Perhaps I was not clear. I am asking you looking back now. What might you have done. I am trying to see inside your head and push for your driving factors. Tell me where you are at in the game? I guess I would have voted for Lam-b sooner, but that means literally nothing. I didn't have nearly the same amount of infomation that I do now. I did want I thought was best and I feel fine about it. If anything I wish I could have said something more to save Sliep, but there was nothing I could have done. I had no info to prove he was town, nor did I have a target that was better than him. But if you want to vote be me because I can't see the future, I guess that a reason I can't fight against. I am instead blaming you for not leaving a footprint and for just allowing yourself to pass in the dead space into the next phase. Then you drop your little revelation about knowing and consciously choosing to post in the dead space. Which means you are not putting time in to solving the game and are instead allowing it to happen which strikes me as odd. I will be leaving my vote on you and will instead, observe how the rest of the day goes.... |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Ruu said: okay that was.. an estrange choice :/ Now the questions that this death creates: - Was Mile getting town read by the majority? - If he was a good candidate for a mislynch D2 then they did this to confuse us. So I'm thinking Suzu or Rinto could be behind this I can see them coming up with something like that. It was likely the case that it was simply more likely to go through successfully, some-what relevant to game size. It also nullifies potential useful info concerning Sleip via their chat group, though..... this would have been better utilized on someone who had yet to speak up about their first lover. |
| Lamb at this point more than lynch you I want to punch you. Seriously can you stop the passive-agressive behaviour? Is not nice and it makes me think you are worry about your small train and looking for a target to get them lynch. |
Grapefruit21 said: I'm talking about the general tone. Ruu is less wishywashy when she's town.@Phraze what you call an appeal to emotion came when there was zero pressure in the thread on Ruu. Usually an appeal to emotion comes when you're trying to avoid a lynch. |
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Ruu said: yes ur an emotional person, that's why it's easy for me to read u :3Phraze said: quote Ruu. vvvv emotional appeal. Kit is always a neutral, Ruu should know that. as I've said before, Kit would be strange when she finally rolls scum, I haven't seen that happen yet. Like I said 10000000 times I'm an emotional person. Also how is that emotional appeal? I made a fluff comment about not having a reliable scum birdie because Suzu and I went through that on our last game (which was bad for my heart lol <--- a joke NOT emotional appeal) And logic has also ask about the doctor's protection in other games and nobody scum read him for it xD I'm not participating in twin mafia so this is the only game I'm active atm. I don't want to die just because I'm the one who posts the most (seriously I'm feeling like the logic of this game). And I didn't know Kit was always a neutral I always nailed u as scum so....bet I'll be doing the same here? |
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| Fake exchange between lamb and Phraze and then they both will vote for me? This is just an idea but I think is possible. Fighting in the main thread so they can't be buddy up. |
Rinto-kun said: Tbh, Phraze or Lam-b should be mafia. Hmmmmm a good time to have such an opinion. I kind of hope to find a vote a few posts down the line, as opposed to pussy-footing around till end phase. |
Ruu said: lol I like that. let's lynch Lamb. coming in to stir shit is a scumtellLamb at this point more than lynch you I want to punch you. Seriously can you stop the passive-agressive behaviour? Is not nice and it makes me think you are worry about your small train and looking for a target to get them lynch. |
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Phraze said: Ruu said: yes ur an emotional person, that's why it's easy for me to read u :3Like I said 10000000 times I'm an emotional person. Also how is that emotional appeal? I made a fluff comment about not having a reliable scum birdie because Suzu and I went through that on our last game (which was bad for my heart lol <--- a joke NOT emotional appeal) And logic has also ask about the doctor's protection in other games and nobody scum read him for it xD I'm not participating in twin mafia so this is the only game I'm active atm. I don't want to die just because I'm the one who posts the most (seriously I'm feeling like the logic of this game). And I didn't know Kit was always a neutral I always nailed u as scum so....bet I'll be doing the same here? Sorry Phraze I'm town this time. Stop trying to make me look scummy it won't work. |
Ruu said: Kit said: Hmm, didn't realize you hadn't seen her as scum. I believe Lamb's claim. We can also solve it this way though. @Phraze who was your neighbor D1? @ Anyone wanna claim neighbors with either lamb or phraze to clear this up? I didn't think Phraze was being confusing in the Phraze/Claire exchange, I didn't really get the questioning from Claire there, was there a contradiction? lamb's neighbour won't claim because lamb gave them a pr. We need to see if somebody claims to be Phraze's. I think Claire's question was correct because I also didn't understand the first post and Phraze's explanations were still confusing imo. If you believe lamb's claim that means you are townreading him for now? Ahyyeee..... someone actually thinking about it, not bad. |
reasons for this and the prior post not including a vote please :3 |
Ruu said: nothing can prove it. making me out to be a liar isn't very kind, so I shall reciprocate it.Phraze said: yes ur an emotional person, that's why it's easy for me to read u :3 I always nailed u as scum so....bet I'll be doing the same here? Sorry Phraze I'm town this time. Stop trying to make me look scummy it won't work. |
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