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Jun 12, 2016 11:38 AM

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Crossbell said:
Arrisu said:

You mean dono? Yes. Everything you said is super accurate. Hence why I town read you, yet again our reads & opinions share many similarities.
Like, is she more likely do this "not caring about the questions" thing as town or scum? I don't have meta to back this up.

Hm I'd say dono is the type of player who lurks as town but always provides logical responses and votes. As town, I could never imagine her OMGUS voting another player, since she would rather vote against somebody whom she potentially sees as mafia.

Also her lack of pertinent questions & lack of follow-up afterwards is something I'm not used too. It's usually hard to read her since she is pretty quiet generally speaking but she definitely strikes to me as scummy.
Jun 12, 2016 11:39 AM

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Jackrito said:
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Can someone corroborate what I said above? Even though I said that I'm still second guessing myself over if she's just a bad townie or is actually scum.


That is the hard line to tell really I have the same problem with Shinchi at the moment and considering changeing. I do like your point on them not following up on questions ,and more doing them to look good. Like I said eariler to Queen I feel more confident in lynching them then Shinchi at the moment. I still want Soren up as well.


Soren train sounds fun :D, but at the same time not sure what to do about him at the moment he's kinda been weird lately. In heaven and hell mafia he hasn't done much but here he's actualyl done some stuff which comes off a little scummy. Cause town soren usually post's reads and actually pressure's scummy reads but he's not doing so.


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Brb guys.
Jun 12, 2016 11:39 AM

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SightlessReality said:
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LOL provide input cause seeing this isn't doing anything for the slight town read im giving you.

That's fine.


Even tho i town read you, sometimes i wanna stab you with a fork :D


Jun 12, 2016 11:40 AM

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Arrisu said:
Hm I'd say dono is the type of player who lurks as town but always provides logical responses and votes. As town, I could never imagine her OMGUS voting another player, since she would rather vote against somebody whom she potentially sees as mafia.

Also her lack of pertinent questions & lack of follow-up afterwards is something I'm not used too. It's usually hard to read her since she is pretty quiet generally speaking but she definitely strikes to me as scummy.
OK, I'll trust you on that point and confirm my scumread on aa-dono.

I'll keep catching up then.
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Shinichi-Kun said:
SightlessReality said:

That's fine.


Even tho i town read you, sometimes i wanna stab you with a fork :D

-Hands you a fork-
Jun 12, 2016 11:42 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
Jackrito said:


That is the hard line to tell really I have the same problem with Shinchi at the moment and considering changeing. I do like your point on them not following up on questions ,and more doing them to look good. Like I said eariler to Queen I feel more confident in lynching them then Shinchi at the moment. I still want Soren up as well.


Soren train sounds fun :D, but at the same time not sure what to do about him at the moment he's kinda been weird lately. In heaven and hell mafia he hasn't done much but here he's actualyl done some stuff which comes off a little scummy. Cause town soren usually post's reads and actually pressure's scummy reads but he's not doing so.


Not one to tell you how to play your games, but in H VH he got replaced and the replacement died lol. He is a bit off lately that is true but with mafia you have to see this as a scum mindset most of the time.
Jun 12, 2016 11:45 AM

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Jackrito said:
Shinichi-Kun said:


Soren train sounds fun :D, but at the same time not sure what to do about him at the moment he's kinda been weird lately. In heaven and hell mafia he hasn't done much but here he's actualyl done some stuff which comes off a little scummy. Cause town soren usually post's reads and actually pressure's scummy reads but he's not doing so.


Not one to tell you how to play your games, but in H VH he got replaced and the replacement died lol. He is a bit off lately that is true but with mafia you have to see this as a scum mindset most of the time.


Oh ya i forgot he got replaced, but even so he was weird that game but this game he's posting a decent amount which is why i give him that slight scum read.


Jun 12, 2016 11:46 AM

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I'm a fan of both Jackrito and Shinichi's wallposts and it probably makes them both town.

followind is null for me so far. His post didn't really give too much indicators as to what his alignment is, though the lack of vote is intriguing. @Togs can read him better than I can - Togs, what would you say followind's alignment is?

followind said:
There are but I don't usually trust myself too much since I'm not confident
and also I only have a hunch about who might be. Just not really sure about it
This feels somewhat townie to me, though I could be falling into the Zuhra trap again (self deprecation is townie in my eyes).
Jun 12, 2016 11:50 AM

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I would personally not want to lynch Shinchi today or take them to Twlight, thier wall post is something that takes a lot of effort and not something I think he would do as scum. They are still some worries but I would rather deal with them later. I know this breaks the twlight tie but I wll change back if needed. I have a bigger scum read on Soren so would rather take them there.

Vote Soren
Jun 12, 2016 11:50 AM

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Bee-Boy said:
Jackrito consists of a large portion of this thread and I can't think of any notable scum hunting he has done on the top of my head.
I'd say the blame for that is attributed to soul's constant pressuring and questioning of jack.
Jun 12, 2016 11:51 AM

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followind said:
I'm saying that he mentioned that he role hinted so I was browsing the page and couldn't find it..
So.. I'm just wondering if he did role hint or not
What I wanted to know is where or did he role hinted and not what he role hinted
This fixation on "where did he role hint?" feels a bit scummy to me however. "Where did he role hint so that I can kill/roleblock him at Night?"

Can we move off on Shinichi and go onto someone who actually has a chance to be scum though?
Jun 12, 2016 11:52 AM

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Jackrito said:
I would personally not want to lynch Shinchi today or take them to Twlight, thier wall post is something that takes a lot of effort and not something I think he would do as scum. They are still some worries but I would rather deal with them later. I know this breaks the twlight tie but I wll change back if needed. I have a bigger scum read on Soren so would rather take them there.

Vote Soren


I would be ok switching my vote to him too though twilight is fine too

@soren u have anything else to say?


Jun 12, 2016 11:53 AM

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Jackrito said:
I would personally not want to lynch Shinchi today or take them to Twlight, thier wall post is something that takes a lot of effort and not something I think he would do as scum. They are still some worries but I would rather deal with them later. I know this breaks the twlight tie but I wll change back if needed. I have a bigger scum read on Soren so would rather take them there.

Vote Soren
/barn this (I agree).

Getting a null read to twilight is better than a townread since we can interrogate them in the extra 24 hours we have left, and as for Soren I haven't seen much different from his Tsundere Madness play.
Jun 12, 2016 11:54 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
Jackrito said:
I would personally not want to lynch Shinchi today or take them to Twlight, thier wall post is something that takes a lot of effort and not something I think he would do as scum. They are still some worries but I would rather deal with them later. I know this breaks the twlight tie but I wll change back if needed. I have a bigger scum read on Soren so would rather take them there.

Vote Soren


I would be ok switching my vote to him too though twilight is fine too

@soren u have anything else to say?


I think Twlight is something we should do, the extra time is always good still think we should not use it for the double lynch though unless sure.
Jun 12, 2016 11:54 AM

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Crossbell said:
followind said:
I'm saying that he mentioned that he role hinted so I was browsing the page and couldn't find it..
So.. I'm just wondering if he did role hint or not
What I wanted to know is where or did he role hinted and not what he role hinted
This fixation on "where did he role hint?" feels a bit scummy to me however. "Where did he role hint so that I can kill/roleblock him at Night?"

Can we move off on Shinichi and go onto someone who actually has a chance to be scum though?


Why tell her this >3> we could have used it as a scum catcher XD.


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We should aim to have three/four votes on each of Soren/aa-dono in 30 minutes.

Any last minute vote changes are going to be a huge headache and I'd prefer to have an unchaotic last 30 minutes of the Day.
Jun 12, 2016 11:55 AM

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Crossbell said:
Jackrito said:
I would personally not want to lynch Shinchi today or take them to Twlight, thier wall post is something that takes a lot of effort and not something I think he would do as scum. They are still some worries but I would rather deal with them later. I know this breaks the twlight tie but I wll change back if needed. I have a bigger scum read on Soren so would rather take them there.

Vote Soren
/barn this (I agree).

Getting a null read to twilight is better than a townread since we can interrogate them in the extra 24 hours we have left, and as for Soren I haven't seen much different from his Tsundere Madness play.


I have seen him a little different in heaven & hell mafia thats where the scum read comes from.


Jun 12, 2016 11:56 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
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/barn this (I agree).

Getting a null read to twilight is better than a townread since we can interrogate them in the extra 24 hours we have left, and as for Soren I haven't seen much different from his Tsundere Madness play.


I have seen him a little different in heaven & hell mafia thats where the scum read comes from.
Uh, I don't think we should be bringing ongoing games into this conversation, but - if you think Soren is scum, please vote him so we have a chance at tying the votes?
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Crossbell said:
We should aim to have three/four votes on each of Soren/aa-dono in 30 minutes.

Any last minute vote changes are going to be a huge headache and I'd prefer to have an unchaotic last 30 minutes of the Day.


This is the issue with this tie approuch they is a big chance of messing it up. So I agree we should set it up early.
Jun 12, 2016 11:57 AM

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Crossbell said:
Shinichi-Kun said:


I have seen him a little different in heaven & hell mafia thats where the scum read comes from.
Uh, I don't think we should be bringing ongoing games into this conversation, but - if you think Soren is scum, please vote him so we have a chance at tying the votes?


How many votes are on soren right now?


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I may not be here for the final 30 minutes of the Day - just a heads up, which is why I want it to be as unchaotic as possible.

Any last minute vote changes to disrupt the Twilight phase of the game will be treated as a scum claim. I feel like it is important to emphasize this.
Jun 12, 2016 11:58 AM

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I am waiting on a VC.
I am comfortable not lynching Jackrito because enough people told me it was a bad idea.
Jun 12, 2016 11:58 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
Crossbell said:
Uh, I don't think we should be bringing ongoing games into this conversation, but - if you think Soren is scum, please vote him so we have a chance at tying the votes?


How many votes are on soren right now?
One vote (Jackrito is on him). If we can get him and one another vote then we can tie.
Jun 12, 2016 12:00 PM

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Crossbell said:
Shinichi-Kun said:


How many votes are on soren right now?
One vote (Jackrito is on him). If we can get him and one another vote then we can tie.


Vote change:soren


Jun 12, 2016 12:00 PM

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Bee-Boy said:
I am waiting on a VC.
I am comfortable not lynching Jackrito because enough people told me it was a bad idea.


Vc?


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Crossbell said:
I may not be here for the final 30 minutes of the Day - just a heads up, which is why I want it to be as unchaotic as possible.

Any last minute vote changes to disrupt the Twilight phase of the game will be treated as a scum claim. I feel like it is important to emphasize this.


This quite a good way to trap scum into a situation where they have a chance of losing a member or risk outting themselves to save 1.


Jun 12, 2016 12:01 PM

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Vote Count 1.6:

aa-dono (3): Arrisu, Crossbell, Togs
Shinichi-kun (2): SoulEaterQUEEN, LucianRoy
Jackrito (2): Bee-Boy, Shuuka
SightlessReality (2): Soren, SightlessReality
Soren (2): Jackrito, Shinichi-kun
Arrisu (1): aa-dono

Players not voting: (followind, bioshade2)


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Jun 12, 2016 12:02 PM

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By the way, if anyone claims a power role in the last 10-5 minutes or so just bring them into Twilight.

That gives opposing power roles a chance to counterclaim and such.
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Shinichi-Kun said:
Jackrito71 So much love and hate in 1 post though this is typical jack. Jack Im just curious of why you would think a scummy policy lynch would make soren get town cred, because if anything coming from soren that just makes him scummy. 145 Soren make's a good point here you do so much talking about your adapting playstyle which seem's like cover to make yourself seem like a townie or to make people think you have no bad motive's with what yoy say or do.147 Here it seem's your activly trying to point out your improving your town skills to get some sympathy and make it look like your trying to be towny maybe?

Togs 240 I like how he comes in talking about the game mechanic and pointing out how they would help town i give him town read for this. He also makes a good point that we should utilize the double lynch while ahead, cause if we utilize once we are at a loss it could just put us deeper in the hole.261 The way he responds here seem's genuine, basically a townie giving his opinion on everything that is going on I don't sense anything motive's here.

souleaterqueen I'm actually curious to this post 74, What made you think he was gonna lurk? Or did you just wanna get an easy train started on someone.Not sure why you would follow up on this 82 but at the same time I also gathered that if one of you flips scum the other is confirmed town cause I can't see 2 scums interacting here.367 Now that i'm giving a much better perspective on how I see everyone in this game what do you think?Also after rereading everything I do get a slight scum vibe from jack but only slightly.

Crossbell 148 Why though, why not just point out your reasons instead of trying to gain cred from pointing out you do have town reads on people. 192 I get a slight town read mainly cause he was the first to bring it up but at the same time it also gives me a slight scum read since he might wanna take advantage of 2 mislynches if he's scum.203 I feel as though here your stat's are biased and your not taking in the account of both lynches being a mislynch, are you that confident in your reads and the chance of scum being caught day 1? 227 Instantly stopped a discussion why he knew it was no benefit for the town and was getting us no where i give him a town read for this.399 I don't know if its just me but cross seem's to always point out when town are going in the wrong direction or doing something they shouldn't can't really see a scum doing that but at the same time I guess it's a neutral at the same time.

BeeboyI like this post65,mainly cause it seem's like he's trying to find town early on to get some good reads.362 Why bring up the fact that some of my post's are fluffy do you think it makes me scummy? 417 Do you think this make's him scummy?

Reality Good ole Reality here 98, I can't really say anything much but since his play style is still the same it will be hard to read him this game like al;ways but lets hope his trap works. 198 His worries seem genuine as scum he would wanna push a mislynch while still being discreet but instead he brings up the negative effects like i did.

Lucian 418 Come's into the game giving his opinion and thought's on everything that has been going on. Explained his likes and dislike about everything he could here. Thought all of this make's him lean towards both scum and town at thw same time.Btw I'm not buddying with jack and i'm pretty sure this isn't the first time I openly defending jack on day 1 nor the first time i've been called out on it. His idea on the twilight phase give off a town read because he both understands the risk's and necessity of the phase.

Followwind 446 Why not vote yet? I wish I could figure that out too because she's not really giving much reason to it. Finally someone realizes i do tend to protect everyone alot atleast on day 1. As for the soul jack quarrel if 1 flips mafia it's safe to say the other would be town. Do like how you come in with read's on people and the fact that your instantly question ari on her reasoning :P.

AA-dono The fact that she asks this question 178 seems genuine an gives off a slight town read. 426 Yes I did also and I meant that he prob has a townlike thought process which is why people always think he's town, I didn't mean to say i thought he was townlike just that other's see him that way. 430 She's asking geuine questions here and seem's like people aren't really giving good answers for her. 437 Make's a good point here about ari. 439 Mainly didn't have much reads on people till now, but at the same time people espically trains tend to have atlaest 1 scum on them that's why i said that.

Soren The posts of all posts 79, not sure why you wanna policy lynch someone its extremely scummy unless you have some way to prove he's scum this is -1 point for you. 214 This is a huge if and what happen's if it back fire cause of wrong reads? 219 I don't think this is true because people could just be like reality and say nothing though i doubt that lol, curious why your so into taking the risk knowing it could hurt town greatly.

Biosshade 248 I don't find this true at all aslong as they keep their eye's open and don't focus on just 1 person. It's actually pretty scummy in my opinion to only focus on 1 person so much on day 1.

Arrisu 278 Comes into the game with a vote I like it and picks a person that need's to be pressured also points out that we need to focus less on mechanics. 287 She want's people to follow her reasoning on me but doesn't show any proof or facts. Also you bring up people should pressure dono more and that you have something on her but ain't giving us something to work with, if you had town motives no reason to hide anything. 288 Not a fan of the fact she's asking people to start a train without giving her reasons for that and the fact that she picks only people she knows are easy to jump on trains. Though if she does flip scum I can't see both of them being scum with her maybe 1 or the other. 340 I actualy found your play style a little different this game espically cause your witholding information i never see you do that. Only town vibe i get from you is when u voting dono to create pressure on someone that was being ignored the rest comes off as scummy to me.

Shuuka 254 Come's into her first game an votes, not sure what to think about this but gives a slight town vibe.


Neutral Reads


Town reads

slight scum reads

full scum reads

Edit:Bioshade is suppose to be a neutral read

Your read on Jackrito comes from what others have said and you just agreeing with their points.

Your read on Togs is biased, you only see it as townie because it supports your point of view. Also if you are giving town credit to those who give opinion in the game on the current events, a whole bunch of others deserve this credit according to your eyes. I can't help but feel you are only seeing him as townie because he sees you as townie.

The read on me needs more thought, I had 2 motives behind my train on Jackrito which I have already explained to both Crossbell and Arrisu.

Your read on Crossbell, seems you are afraid to commit to a scum read on them so you revert back on a neutral stance but yet you town read them according to the colour?

Bee-Boy read seems hmm, okay I guess?

Your read on Sightless sounds like a forced neutral, when I read it, it seems more like you see him as town. If you know he is setting up a trap and you seem keen to wonder "but lets hope his trap works", if you are TOWN like you keep saying you are then would you not want to hope his "trap" benefits TOWN, and if it does, then why do you refuse to commit this read as TOWN motivated?

Your read on LucianRoy doesn't make sense to me. Another read you are afraid to commit too. It sounds like a similar read as Togs where he gives opinions on the current game events which you gave Togs townie credit for doing. Is it because Lucian is voting you out?

I am going to skip followind read.

I am interested in the aa-dono read given it sounds again you are defending her but she is at a neutral read. Though both of you are voting on the same person who you deem as scum but you mentioned that the likelihood of aa-dono and arri are not scum buddies so that means by process of elimination aa-dono is town according how you view Ari with your vote. So why are you again afraid to commit to a read on aa-dono?

Soren, read is okay... though I don't think the policy day 1 lynch approach is strong enough to give a scum read, it sure was weird but more so on the fact he did not want to move out of his "placeholder RVS" so fast.

bioshade2/shuuka, I still thin they are both being weird but falling into the newbie trap. So I don't know how to approach either 1 of them at this point. Though bioshade2 is being really lurky so not getting good vibes from him.

I don't get why Ari is getting so much heat here with her pressure approach, how is this anything new? The way I see it is because she doesn't get a whole lot of information and wants to get more by pressuring her, she chose aa-dono based on gut feeling reasons and wants to follow up with that - I don't see how this is scummy intentions unless she refuses to follow up with aa-dono's responses.
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Bee-Boy said:
I am waiting on a VC.
I am comfortable not lynching Jackrito because enough people told me it was a bad idea.


Don't let others get in your way if you are so sure.
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damn it, 47 unread posts. fml
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ONLY 1 STUNDEN!
AND I STILL GOTTA CATCH UP!
"If you look for a ghost, you'll find one."
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So is the general consensus is that we want to send Soren and dono in the twilight phase?
Is this what I am getting... someone answer me. My laptop is overheating like crazy and keeps shutting off so I am missing time
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SoulEaterQUEEN said:
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Jackrito71 So much love and hate in 1 post though this is typical jack. Jack Im just curious of why you would think a scummy policy lynch would make soren get town cred, because if anything coming from soren that just makes him scummy. 145 Soren make's a good point here you do so much talking about your adapting playstyle which seem's like cover to make yourself seem like a townie or to make people think you have no bad motive's with what yoy say or do.147 Here it seem's your activly trying to point out your improving your town skills to get some sympathy and make it look like your trying to be towny maybe?

Togs 240 I like how he comes in talking about the game mechanic and pointing out how they would help town i give him town read for this. He also makes a good point that we should utilize the double lynch while ahead, cause if we utilize once we are at a loss it could just put us deeper in the hole.261 The way he responds here seem's genuine, basically a townie giving his opinion on everything that is going on I don't sense anything motive's here.

souleaterqueen I'm actually curious to this post 74, What made you think he was gonna lurk? Or did you just wanna get an easy train started on someone.Not sure why you would follow up on this 82 but at the same time I also gathered that if one of you flips scum the other is confirmed town cause I can't see 2 scums interacting here.367 Now that i'm giving a much better perspective on how I see everyone in this game what do you think?Also after rereading everything I do get a slight scum vibe from jack but only slightly.

Crossbell 148 Why though, why not just point out your reasons instead of trying to gain cred from pointing out you do have town reads on people. 192 I get a slight town read mainly cause he was the first to bring it up but at the same time it also gives me a slight scum read since he might wanna take advantage of 2 mislynches if he's scum.203 I feel as though here your stat's are biased and your not taking in the account of both lynches being a mislynch, are you that confident in your reads and the chance of scum being caught day 1? 227 Instantly stopped a discussion why he knew it was no benefit for the town and was getting us no where i give him a town read for this.399 I don't know if its just me but cross seem's to always point out when town are going in the wrong direction or doing something they shouldn't can't really see a scum doing that but at the same time I guess it's a neutral at the same time.

BeeboyI like this post65,mainly cause it seem's like he's trying to find town early on to get some good reads.362 Why bring up the fact that some of my post's are fluffy do you think it makes me scummy? 417 Do you think this make's him scummy?

Reality Good ole Reality here 98, I can't really say anything much but since his play style is still the same it will be hard to read him this game like al;ways but lets hope his trap works. 198 His worries seem genuine as scum he would wanna push a mislynch while still being discreet but instead he brings up the negative effects like i did.

Lucian 418 Come's into the game giving his opinion and thought's on everything that has been going on. Explained his likes and dislike about everything he could here. Thought all of this make's him lean towards both scum and town at thw same time.Btw I'm not buddying with jack and i'm pretty sure this isn't the first time I openly defending jack on day 1 nor the first time i've been called out on it. His idea on the twilight phase give off a town read because he both understands the risk's and necessity of the phase.

Followwind 446 Why not vote yet? I wish I could figure that out too because she's not really giving much reason to it. Finally someone realizes i do tend to protect everyone alot atleast on day 1. As for the soul jack quarrel if 1 flips mafia it's safe to say the other would be town. Do like how you come in with read's on people and the fact that your instantly question ari on her reasoning :P.

AA-dono The fact that she asks this question 178 seems genuine an gives off a slight town read. 426 Yes I did also and I meant that he prob has a townlike thought process which is why people always think he's town, I didn't mean to say i thought he was townlike just that other's see him that way. 430 She's asking geuine questions here and seem's like people aren't really giving good answers for her. 437 Make's a good point here about ari. 439 Mainly didn't have much reads on people till now, but at the same time people espically trains tend to have atlaest 1 scum on them that's why i said that.

Soren The posts of all posts 79, not sure why you wanna policy lynch someone its extremely scummy unless you have some way to prove he's scum this is -1 point for you. 214 This is a huge if and what happen's if it back fire cause of wrong reads? 219 I don't think this is true because people could just be like reality and say nothing though i doubt that lol, curious why your so into taking the risk knowing it could hurt town greatly.

Biosshade 248 I don't find this true at all aslong as they keep their eye's open and don't focus on just 1 person. It's actually pretty scummy in my opinion to only focus on 1 person so much on day 1.

Arrisu 278 Comes into the game with a vote I like it and picks a person that need's to be pressured also points out that we need to focus less on mechanics. 287 She want's people to follow her reasoning on me but doesn't show any proof or facts. Also you bring up people should pressure dono more and that you have something on her but ain't giving us something to work with, if you had town motives no reason to hide anything. 288 Not a fan of the fact she's asking people to start a train without giving her reasons for that and the fact that she picks only people she knows are easy to jump on trains. Though if she does flip scum I can't see both of them being scum with her maybe 1 or the other. 340 I actualy found your play style a little different this game espically cause your witholding information i never see you do that. Only town vibe i get from you is when u voting dono to create pressure on someone that was being ignored the rest comes off as scummy to me.

Shuuka 254 Come's into her first game an votes, not sure what to think about this but gives a slight town vibe.


Neutral Reads


Town reads

slight scum reads

full scum reads

Edit:Bioshade is suppose to be a neutral read

Your read on Jackrito comes from what others have said and you just agreeing with their points.

Your read on Togs is biased, you only see it as townie because it supports your point of view. Also if you are giving town credit to those who give opinion in the game on the current events, a whole bunch of others deserve this credit according to your eyes. I can't help but feel you are only seeing him as townie because he sees you as townie.

The read on me needs more thought, I had 2 motives behind my train on Jackrito which I have already explained to both Crossbell and Arrisu.

Your read on Crossbell, seems you are afraid to commit to a scum read on them so you revert back on a neutral stance but yet you town read them according to the colour?

Bee-Boy read seems hmm, okay I guess?

Your read on Sightless sounds like a forced neutral, when I read it, it seems more like you see him as town. If you know he is setting up a trap and you seem keen to wonder "but lets hope his trap works", if you are TOWN like you keep saying you are then would you not want to hope his "trap" benefits TOWN, and if it does, then why do you refuse to commit this read as TOWN motivated?

Your read on LucianRoy doesn't make sense to me. Another read you are afraid to commit too. It sounds like a similar read as Togs where he gives opinions on the current game events which you gave Togs townie credit for doing. Is it because Lucian is voting you out?

I am going to skip followind read.

I am interested in the aa-dono read given it sounds again you are defending her but she is at a neutral read. Though both of you are voting on the same person who you deem as scum but you mentioned that the likelihood of aa-dono and arri are not scum buddies so that means by process of elimination aa-dono is town according how you view Ari with your vote. So why are you again afraid to commit to a read on aa-dono?

Soren, read is okay... though I don't think the policy day 1 lynch approach is strong enough to give a scum read, it sure was weird but more so on the fact he did not want to move out of his "placeholder RVS" so fast.

bioshade2/shuuka, I still thin they are both being weird but falling into the newbie trap. So I don't know how to approach either 1 of them at this point. Though bioshade2 is being really lurky so not getting good vibes from him.

I don't get why Ari is getting so much heat here with her pressure approach, how is this anything new? The way I see it is because she doesn't get a whole lot of information and wants to get more by pressuring her, she chose aa-dono based on gut feeling reasons and wants to follow up with that - I don't see how this is scummy intentions unless she refuses to follow up with aa-dono's responses.


I give you what you want and your still not happy lol.

Is there something wrong with me agreeing with their points? Cause after rereading the thread some of those points felt true and I started to take them into account.

Not sure where you got that vibe from my read on togs because I ain't seeing him as town because of his defense of me, his way of thinking just has a strong town vibe even if he hadn't defended me I still see him as town. More like you want my view of him to be biased so you can try to connect me and him or something along those lines.

I know the motives atleast I think I do, no ened to relaborate because I see you as town and even now my view on you hasnt changed, plus I don't feel liek going through the whole thread in 1 hour just to give a more ffective view on you.

Because slightless play style can come off as both alignments, but at the same time his hesitation to utilize the twilight feels geunine enough for me to think hes leaning more towards town.

Cause from what i've noticed she's just asking alot of questions I can't get a read off of that like you or ari can sorry to say that lol. Also I have no 1005 gunrantee ari will flip scum but if she doesn't ill know dono is scum if dono flips town then i can just solidify my view on ari. Maybe im jsut bad at explaining my pov.

I already explained why i see soren as a slight scum read

Nothing more I can say about ari, at this point i rather just see what happens with the lynches and the twilight phase before I commit anymore to my views on ari.


Jun 12, 2016 12:15 PM

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Bee-Boy said:
I am waiting on a VC.
I am comfortable not lynching Jackrito because enough people told me it was a bad idea.

So change your vote to Soren?
I'd like to see the tie between Soren & Dono as well.
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SoulEaterQUEEN said:
So is the general consensus is that we want to send Soren and dono in the twilight phase?
Is this what I am getting... someone answer me. My laptop is overheating like crazy and keeps shutting off so I am missing time


Yes that's seem's like the course of action most people wanna take.


Jun 12, 2016 12:17 PM

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Jackrito said:
Bee-Boy said:
I am waiting on a VC.
I am comfortable not lynching Jackrito because enough people told me it was a bad idea.


Don't let others get in your way if you are so sure.


*shrugs* that isn't how I like to play.
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vote: Soren
I don't dislike this. Though I am not fully comfortable with Shinichi-kun but I did warn someone that I always see him as scummy on default >_>
Jun 12, 2016 12:19 PM

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I will be around until the end of phase, so please tag me if my vote needs a change to maintain the tie.
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SoulEaterQUEEN said:
vote: Soren
I don't dislike this. Though I am not fully comfortable with Shinichi-kun but I did warn someone that I always see him as scummy on default >_>


Cant u atleast be a little happy i gave u my reads :'(


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Vote Count 1.6:

aa-dono (3): Arrisu, Crossbell, Togs
Soren (3): Jackrito, Shinichi-kun, SoulEaterQUEEN

The votes are tied right now, which is good.

Unless we want to get an additional vote on Soren or aa-dono for safety purposes the votes should not move.
Jun 12, 2016 12:21 PM

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SoulEaterQUEEN said:
vote: Soren
I don't dislike this. Though I am not fully comfortable with Shinichi-kun but I did warn someone that I always see him as scummy on default >_>



I'm not comfortable with Shinichi either, but I'm starting to see slight hints of his town play actually doing a readlist be it not great is a big one. Since I know as scum he finds it hard to fake read people and that seems like the type of list he would do as town even though I disagree with parts of it.
Jun 12, 2016 12:23 PM

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Crossbell said:
Vote Count 1.6:

aa-dono (3): Arrisu, Crossbell, Togs
Soren (3): Jackrito, Shinichi-kun, SoulEaterQUEEN

The votes are tied right now, which is good.

Unless we want to get an additional vote on Soren or aa-dono for safety purposes the votes should not move.


I'm happpy with mine, if someone did mess this up as well which I can see sightless doing. I would be happy with one of these two been lynched but I hope no one messes this up.
Jun 12, 2016 12:24 PM

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What happens if we get a 3 way tie?
Jun 12, 2016 12:25 PM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Your read on Jackrito comes from what others have said and you just agreeing with their points.

Your read on Togs is biased, you only see it as townie because it supports your point of view. Also if you are giving town credit to those who give opinion in the game on the current events, a whole bunch of others deserve this credit according to your eyes. I can't help but feel you are only seeing him as townie because he sees you as townie.

The read on me needs more thought, I had 2 motives behind my train on Jackrito which I have already explained to both Crossbell and Arrisu.

Your read on Crossbell, seems you are afraid to commit to a scum read on them so you revert back on a neutral stance but yet you town read them according to the colour?

Bee-Boy read seems hmm, okay I guess?

Your read on Sightless sounds like a forced neutral, when I read it, it seems more like you see him as town. If you know he is setting up a trap and you seem keen to wonder "but lets hope his trap works", if you are TOWN like you keep saying you are then would you not want to hope his "trap" benefits TOWN, and if it does, then why do you refuse to commit this read as TOWN motivated?

Your read on LucianRoy doesn't make sense to me. Another read you are afraid to commit too. It sounds like a similar read as Togs where he gives opinions on the current game events which you gave Togs townie credit for doing. Is it because Lucian is voting you out?

I am going to skip followind read.

I am interested in the aa-dono read given it sounds again you are defending her but she is at a neutral read. Though both of you are voting on the same person who you deem as scum but you mentioned that the likelihood of aa-dono and arri are not scum buddies so that means by process of elimination aa-dono is town according how you view Ari with your vote. So why are you again afraid to commit to a read on aa-dono?

Soren, read is okay... though I don't think the policy day 1 lynch approach is strong enough to give a scum read, it sure was weird but more so on the fact he did not want to move out of his "placeholder RVS" so fast.

bioshade2/shuuka, I still thin they are both being weird but falling into the newbie trap. So I don't know how to approach either 1 of them at this point. Though bioshade2 is being really lurky so not getting good vibes from him.

I don't get why Ari is getting so much heat here with her pressure approach, how is this anything new? The way I see it is because she doesn't get a whole lot of information and wants to get more by pressuring her, she chose aa-dono based on gut feeling reasons and wants to follow up with that - I don't see how this is scummy intentions unless she refuses to follow up with aa-dono's responses.


I give you what you want and your still not happy lol.

Is there something wrong with me agreeing with their points? Cause after rereading the thread some of those points felt true and I started to take them into account.

Not sure where you got that vibe from my read on togs because I ain't seeing him as town because of his defense of me, his way of thinking just has a strong town vibe even if he hadn't defended me I still see him as town. More like you want my view of him to be biased so you can try to connect me and him or something along those lines.

I know the motives atleast I think I do, no ened to relaborate because I see you as town and even now my view on you hasnt changed, plus I don't feel liek going through the whole thread in 1 hour just to give a more ffective view on you.

Because slightless play style can come off as both alignments, but at the same time his hesitation to utilize the twilight feels geunine enough for me to think hes leaning more towards town.

Cause from what i've noticed she's just asking alot of questions I can't get a read off of that like you or ari can sorry to say that lol. Also I have no 1005 gunrantee ari will flip scum but if she doesn't ill know dono is scum if dono flips town then i can just solidify my view on ari. Maybe im jsut bad at explaining my pov.

I already explained why i see soren as a slight scum read

Nothing more I can say about ari, at this point i rather just see what happens with the lynches and the twilight phase before I commit anymore to my views on ari.

The asking questions part is something scum does in order to show they are active and paying attention to the game, so in a sense I see why it raises alarms.
So what about the others who want to use the twilight phase, what does that say about their alignment?
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Shinichi-Kun said:
SoulEaterQUEEN said:
vote: Soren
I don't dislike this. Though I am not fully comfortable with Shinichi-kun but I did warn someone that I always see him as scummy on default >_>


Cant u atleast be a little happy i gave u my reads :'(

Yes, I appreciate the effort
Jun 12, 2016 12:27 PM

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Jackrito said:
I'm happpy with mine, if someone did mess this up as well which I can see sightless doing. I would be happy with one of these two been lynched but I hope no one messes this up.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:
@Crossbell
tell me what you are most afraid of on seeing what happens in this game?



*shudders*
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Won't be back until phase change happens.

If the Day doesn't go into twilight I will be mad.
Jun 12, 2016 12:28 PM

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Jackrito said:
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vote: Soren
I don't dislike this. Though I am not fully comfortable with Shinichi-kun but I did warn someone that I always see him as scummy on default >_>



I'm not comfortable with Shinichi either, but I'm starting to see slight hints of his town play actually doing a readlist be it not great is a big one. Since I know as scum he finds it hard to fake read people and that seems like the type of list he would do as town even though I disagree with parts of it.

Well you & Crossbell believe in his townie prospects and I view him naturally as scummy so I am willing to let it go for now.
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