Crossbell said: After ISOing aa-dono, I agree with Arrisu and I think Arrisu's likely town as well. Vote: aa-dono /high fives Cross Boo yeah~ |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Maybe, but everyone learns at their own pace. It took me waaay too many games to learn what to look for when scumhunting for example. So far he’s just fit into my mental mold of that kind of town player.Togs said: Is defending others his scum meta ? I've liked his posts this game, a lot of them feel kind of "useless but speculative" and I can see a mindset of a townie who's a little uncomfortable with the mechanics of scumhunting there. He's got a lot of experience in games, I don't understand why an experienced townie would be a bit uncomfortable with the mechanics of scumhunting. New players, yes, but experienced ones? Though my view on Kaito is that I am inclined to think he's scummy simply based on my own bias that his way of thinking in never on par with mine in these games. Also, about the agreement/disagreement bias, I feel like that’s what tripped me up most in my last game and what caused me to townread Soren and tunnel on Crossbell. I’m coming into this game with the mindset of making absolutely sure that it doesn’t mess with my reads again. Arrisu said: Not doing stuff like that wouldn’t be helpful to the town, but they certainly could still be town ! Not everyone is going to play the game optimally and it’s a possibly that has to be recognized in dealing with players like that. Even if a post isn’t helpful, it’s still possible to tell if there’s a town or scum mindset behind it.@Togs - Key word you use there is "useless". To me, if you aren't bothering to push or ask questions then you aren't being protown. I’ll look at your case on aa-dono, I must’ve glossed over them this game because that’s the first time I remember reading that name. |
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| @Crossbell I'm simply curious. What's Togs' scum game like in general? |
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Arrisu said: Crossbell said: Can you substantiate this with meta? If your asking me to go and get proof, I'm way too lazy for that. @Togs - Key word you use there is "useless". To me, if you aren't bothering to push or ask questions then you aren't being protown. Shinichi has more then enough experience with mafia to not be uncomfortable in appearance with mechanics. Though I find it interesting everyone is asking me about Shinichi but not aa-dono. :) as for shinichi jumping into peoples rescue, jumping in to everyone's rescue might actually be trying to get a feel on how people react to the defense to get a map of how they might interact in here, getting a little iffy vibe off of crossbell and arrisu, seem to be pushing for a move that could very easily come back to bite towns rear if i understand double lynching correctly. |
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| @Togs - That the mistake I find with some players. How are you openly defending another player when the game literally just started? There's no sense in defending anybody, especially when they haven't been town read whatsoever. I never once said that "everyone needed to play the game optimally", but I'm pretty sure I know Shinichi's meta more then you do soley based on the amount of games we've played together: and it coincides with previous scum flips. Now don't take what I said out of context, but you are reading too much into what I said. It was only a simple observation. In no way am I ready to lynch him yet. I want dono instead. |
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| Extremely lurky, though he's learned more about mafia since his last scum game so I have no idea how it would manifest. |
Vote Count 1.4: Jackrito (4): SoulEaterQUEEN, Bee-Boy, Shuuka, Togs aa-dono (2): Arrisu, Crossbell SightlessReality (2): Soren, SightlessReality Crossbell (1): aa-dono Shinichi-kun (1): Jackrito Players not voting: (LucianRoy, followind, bioshade2, Shinichi-kun) |
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Crossbell said: Extremely lurky, though he's learned more about mafia since his last scum game so I have no idea how it would manifest. What's your gut tell now would you say? |
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bioshade2 said: Arrisu said: If your asking me to go and get proof, I'm way too lazy for that. @Togs - Key word you use there is "useless". To me, if you aren't bothering to push or ask questions then you aren't being protown. Shinichi has more then enough experience with mafia to not be uncomfortable in appearance with mechanics. Though I find it interesting everyone is asking me about Shinichi but not aa-dono. :) as for shinichi jumping into peoples rescue, jumping in to everyone's rescue might actually be trying to get a feel on how people react to the defense to get a map of how they might interact in here, getting a little iffy vibe off of crossbell and arrisu, seem to be pushing for a move that could very easily come back to bite towns rear if i understand double lynching correctly. Hi scum. It'd be nice if you would actual bother asking me questions or even poke me a bit if you suspect me. Thanks. Also I do believe specifically mentioning that "double lynching" is not a good opportunity however, twilight phase and narrowing it down to two suspects is. Especially since it will give less leeway for scum to play around with vote manipulation to save their pals. You can't really argue against that logic. It's only very beneficial for town. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Gut tells me that he's leaning town. I think the questions he asked me were genuine and aimed at figuring out my alignment. What's your gut tell now would you say? Bee-boy said: I ctrl-f post count or join date, but there's not really an ISO function.Is it possible to ISO people? |
| @PentaFlare: I think Togs was voting for Jack. |
Yup. Found the vote. Thanks |
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bioshade2 said: Arrisu said: If your asking me to go and get proof, I'm way too lazy for that. @Togs - Key word you use there is "useless". To me, if you aren't bothering to push or ask questions then you aren't being protown. Shinichi has more then enough experience with mafia to not be uncomfortable in appearance with mechanics. Though I find it interesting everyone is asking me about Shinichi but not aa-dono. :) as for shinichi jumping into peoples rescue, jumping in to everyone's rescue might actually be trying to get a feel on how people react to the defense to get a map of how they might interact in here, getting a little iffy vibe off of crossbell and arrisu, seem to be pushing for a move that could very easily come back to bite towns rear if i understand double lynching correctly. That's the usual Ari for you, she's like a bull dog. Though why are you not placing a vote when you have some suspects? |
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bioshade2 said: Arrisu said: If your asking me to go and get proof, I'm way too lazy for that. @Togs - Key word you use there is "useless". To me, if you aren't bothering to push or ask questions then you aren't being protown. Shinichi has more then enough experience with mafia to not be uncomfortable in appearance with mechanics. Though I find it interesting everyone is asking me about Shinichi but not aa-dono. :) as for shinichi jumping into peoples rescue, jumping in to everyone's rescue might actually be trying to get a feel on how people react to the defense to get a map of how they might interact in here, getting a little iffy vibe off of crossbell and arrisu, seem to be pushing for a move that could very easily come back to bite towns rear if i understand double lynching correctly. Then vote me! And push other people to vote me! Because I'm sure not gonna do it. |
SoulEaterQUEEN said: bioshade2 said: as for shinichi jumping into peoples rescue, jumping in to everyone's rescue might actually be trying to get a feel on how people react to the defense to get a map of how they might interact in here, getting a little iffy vibe off of crossbell and arrisu, seem to be pushing for a move that could very easily come back to bite towns rear if i understand double lynching correctly. That's the usual Ari for you, she's like a bull dog. Though why are you not placing a vote when you have some suspects? I know someone who goes by Ari who is one of the softest players I have seen. This won't get confusing. |
| Oh turns out I didn’t recognize AA because I just mentally referred to them as “blue-tree person” without ever reading their name. Arrisu said: Wait this is the case ? Anything more specific ?I think aa-dono needs to get pressured. She's being a bit odd this game so far. Arrisu said: Yeah it makes no sense and isn’t gonna help you whether you’re town or scum. Which is why I think it’s likely coming from town : P I will say that my townread on him isn’t as strong since multiple people have come forth saying defending really is his scum meta.@Togs - That the mistake I find with some players. How are you openly defending another player when the game literally just started? There's no sense in defending anybody, especially when they haven't been town read whatsoever. Crossbell said: I can confirm these are both correct.Extremely lurky, though he's learned more about mafia since his last scum game so I have no idea how it would manifest. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: That's the usual Ari for you, she's like a bull dog. Though why are you not placing a vote when you have some suspects? B-bull dog? I'm more like an Eskimo pup~ |
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Bee-Boy said: I know someone who goes by Ari who is one of the softest players I have seen. This won't get confusing. I'm the same Ari, just have an alter ego on MAL. @Togs - I guess I can tell you. Dono legit did zero scum-hunting when she popped into the game. Though I noticed how she immediately tried to break down the idea of using the Twilight phase to town's advantage right away. Dono is a smart girl, so from a mafia perceptive it would only be natural to want to break down that idea asap for town. Also my gut is screaming for me to lynch dono & I have a habit of having an accurate gut reading. |
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| Liar the Ari I know is male and Canadian. |
| I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum. I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote. |
Arrisu said: bioshade2 said: as for shinichi jumping into peoples rescue, jumping in to everyone's rescue might actually be trying to get a feel on how people react to the defense to get a map of how they might interact in here, getting a little iffy vibe off of crossbell and arrisu, seem to be pushing for a move that could very easily come back to bite towns rear if i understand double lynching correctly. Hi scum. It'd be nice if you would actual bother asking me questions or even poke me a bit if you suspect me. Thanks. Also I do believe specifically mentioning that "double lynching" is not a good opportunity however, twilight phase and narrowing it down to two suspects is. Especially since it will give less leeway for scum to play around with vote manipulation to save their pals. You can't really argue against that logic. It's only very beneficial for town. I do apologise i must have scrolled right buy the part where said it was a bad idea to double lynch, still not quite used this so im not quite sure how to direct questions or poke, from this though i have gotten a better unserstanding of what some of this stuff is so ty. |
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Bee-Boy said: Liar the Ari I know is male and Canadian. Shoot. My alternate identity as Ari has been uncovered. |
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| Ok read through AA. First she asks two questions and seems completely uninterested in the answers. Then she gets in a conversation with SoulEater about the mechanics of double lynching. So scumhunting doesn’t really seems to catch her interest but the setup does. Yeah I definitely would like some more pressure on her. vote: aa-dono |
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| I like how many Canadians are here :D |
Bee-Boy said: Liar the Ari I know is male and Canadian. Well I'm Canadian. I just got a sexe change is all. It's free health care in Canada after all. :D |
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PentaFlare said: Bee-Boy said: Liar the Ari I know is male and Canadian. Shoot. My alternate identity as Ari has been uncovered. You can't be me ototo! That's wrong on so many levels! D: |
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Crossbell said: I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum. I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote. Basically what I think in a nutshell. Thanks for wording it better then I could. I'm kind of half asleep right now. :') Also that choo choo on Jack is hmmm |
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Togs said: How do blunt opinions make him town? It's a lot easier to blunty post opinions when they're real.Guess thats kinda true Jackrito said: Togs said: Shinichi looks genuine in thinking that since he looks at the thread and doesn’t get any reads out of it yet, no one else should have any reads either. He also buts into someone else’s question in a way that I don’t think a scum would do. Jack’s posts have made me feel uneasy about him this game but this one is probably the biggest offender. I don’t like how he criticizes Shinichi for buddying when shinichi hasn’t responded yet and it *feels* to me at least like he wants to get a wagon started on him. Good post ! I definitely agree with your points. A certain recently completed game comes to mind where I lead a policy lynch on a useless town Sightless and your very next post was you suspecting me. Uh... this really shouldn’t be allowed. Since you guys use a club system here there should probably be a rule that players can’t post before joining all the clubs they need to and confirming that they know their role. I’m townreading Soren, Shinichi, and SouleaterQueen atm. Lighter townreads on Crossbell and Beeboy. vote: Jackrito. He should be one of the two we send to The Pit toDay, A lot of this is based off not knowing my meta the shinchi defense of me I will take issue with and gave the reasons why. I would do this with anyone so don't make this out as me taking adv. You also don't know shinchi meta the stuff he is doing is far from a town read. My point on sightless still stands One of the reasons I suspected you on that game it was wrong I stand by it though. So of course if I see someone doing it I will take issue. if you remember no one else gave you bad rep off that sightless lynch so IIam right. You led some bad tunnels in our last game and seems you are doing the same again here. Stop looking at things to suit your agenda. Hmm how are u getting a scum read off of me lol, what have i done that's even slightly scummy just curious. Arrisu said: As for Shinichi, his play is scummy too. He's jumping in to people's rescue too quickly. I feel like he does this quite a bit when mafia too. Food for thought. Wait what i do this every game lol >_> smh go look at my game's before you assume soemthing. Arrisu said: Crossbell said: Can you substantiate this with meta? If your asking me to go and get proof, I'm way too lazy for that. @Togs - Key word you use there is "useless". To me, if you aren't bothering to push or ask questions then you aren't being protown. Shinichi has more then enough experience with mafia to not be uncomfortable in appearance with mechanics. Though I find it interesting everyone is asking me about Shinichi but not aa-dono. :) If you can't take the time to gather facts then ur just throwing out baseless accusations expecting the newbies to just follow you that is extremely scummy in my opinion. |
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Arrisu said: @SoulEaterQUEEN - Information & thoughts on the game are mostly classified until further notice. Just trust me, yes? So is everyone just gonna adopt sightless play style all of a sudden? Arrisu said: Crossbell said: Can you substantiate this with meta? If your asking me to go and get proof, I'm way too lazy for that. @Togs - Key word you use there is "useless". To me, if you aren't bothering to push or ask questions then you aren't being protown. Shinichi has more then enough experience with mafia to not be uncomfortable in appearance with mechanics. Though I find it interesting everyone is asking me about Shinichi but not aa-dono. :) Pushing and asking questions doesn't technically make anyone pro town jsut makes them active enough to hide their scummy alignment if they are scum. Also are you hinting at knowing something about dono on day 1 im confused? Arrisu said: @SoulEaterQUEEN @Soren - I can always count on you guys to help me out with a lynch train. Choo choo guys? ;) Like how u specifically ask the 1 guy whois known to sheep votes without any reason behind them I don't like that why not ask other's or provide reasoning. |
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Shinichi-kun said: I was expecting a vote here, but I didn't find one.If you can't take the time to gather facts then ur just throwing out baseless accusations expecting the newbies to just follow you that is extremely scummy in my opinion. |
Crossbell said: Shinichi-kun said: I was expecting a vote here, but I didn't find one.If you can't take the time to gather facts then ur just throwing out baseless accusations expecting the newbies to just follow you that is extremely scummy in my opinion. Smh lol even if i do vote, i won't alone deem ari scum off of that 1 statement. Vote:Arrisu |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Crossbell said: I was expecting a vote here, but I didn't find one. Smh lol even if i do vote, i won't alone deem ari scum off of that 1 statement. Vote:Arrisu oooooh I thought you didn't believe in D1 voting unless you had to?? |
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Arrisu said: Crossbell said: I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum. I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote. Basically what I think in a nutshell. Thanks for wording it better then I could. I'm kind of half asleep right now. :') Also that choo choo on Jack is hmmm Define "hmmm" |
| Shinichi is falling to pressure ~~~ Lol like scum-reading me no matter what I say or do. Face it, you just don't accept that I play differently then you. Besides, you are scum-reading me for things that I have done countless times before & yet still flipped town. :D So clearly you aren't very good at meta reading me yet. |
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bioshade2 said: Arrisu said: If your asking me to go and get proof, I'm way too lazy for that. @Togs - Key word you use there is "useless". To me, if you aren't bothering to push or ask questions then you aren't being protown. Shinichi has more then enough experience with mafia to not be uncomfortable in appearance with mechanics. Though I find it interesting everyone is asking me about Shinichi but not aa-dono. :) as for shinichi jumping into peoples rescue, jumping in to everyone's rescue might actually be trying to get a feel on how people react to the defense to get a map of how they might interact in here, getting a little iffy vibe off of crossbell and arrisu, seem to be pushing for a move that could very easily come back to bite towns rear if i understand double lynching correctly. I get the vibe from arrisu, everyone reacts differently it seems. Some say i'm scummy while other's just tell me i don't need to defend them., Arrisu said: @Togs - That the mistake I find with some players. How are you openly defending another player when the game literally just started? There's no sense in defending anybody, especially when they haven't been town read whatsoever. I never once said that "everyone needed to play the game optimally", but I'm pretty sure I know Shinichi's meta more then you do soley based on the amount of games we've played together: and it coincides with previous scum flips. Now don't take what I said out of context, but you are reading too much into what I said. It was only a simple observation. In no way am I ready to lynch him yet. I want dono instead. But i defend people every game espically on day 1 and i've done it regardless of my alignment you of all people should know that. Honestly until you can prove i've never defended someone day 1 in a game where I was town no reason for me to listen to this or even respond to it. Cause seem's like now ur just expecting people to just sheep everything you say now which is just anti town. |
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Bee-Boy said: Arrisu said: Basically what I think in a nutshell. Thanks for wording it better then I could. I'm kind of half asleep right now. :') Also that choo choo on Jack is hmmm Define "hmmm" I don't particularly understand why there are so many votes on Jack as of yet. It feels too easy of a lynch? I never like when lynches seem easy. It rubs me the wrong way. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: Smh lol even if i do vote, i won't alone deem ari scum off of that 1 statement. Vote:Arrisu oooooh I thought you didn't believe in D1 voting unless you had to?? Hmm? When did i say that, i only rememebr stating i don't like being on a day 1 lynch train. I vote day 1 almost every game lmao |
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Arrisu said: I don't particularly understand why there are so many votes on Jack as of yet. It feels too easy of a lynch? I never like when lynches seem easy. It rubs me the wrong way. Good girl. |
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Arrisu said: 'Shinichi is falling to pressure ~~~ Lol like scum-reading me no matter what I say or do. Face it, you just don't accept that I play differently then you. Besides, you are scum-reading me for things that I have done countless times before & yet still flipped town. :D So clearly you aren't very good at meta reading me yet. Lmao i've flipped differnt alignments to tho so where's your logic. Also what pressure btw i barely have a single vote on me i'm just responding with an aggresive tone because from your logic your saying i only defend people as scum but i do it every game regardless of alignment which irks me cause ur not finding any facts. |
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Arrisu said: I don't particularly understand why there are so many votes on Jack as of yet. It feels too easy of a lynch? I never like when lynches seem easy. It rubs me the wrong way. Do you have any other reasons to disagree with it? |
Shinichi-Kun said: Hmm? When did i say that, i only rememebr stating i don't like being on a day 1 lynch train. I vote day 1 almost every game lmao hmmm actually bahh you are right. damn |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Crossbell said: I was expecting a vote here, but I didn't find one. Smh lol even if i do vote, i won't alone deem ari scum off of that 1 statement. Vote:Arrisu Why did you still vote then If you say you don't deem them scum, I personally only vote if I want to not because someone else does. |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: Smh lol even if i do vote, i won't alone deem ari scum off of that 1 statement. Vote:Arrisu Why did you still vote then If you say you don't deem them scum, I personally only vote if I want to not because someone else does. It's enough to get the ball rolling tho, for now i can leave my vote on her till i find more evidence to prove her scuminess but if i can't find more info before day 1 end's i will most liekly unvote her. |
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Arrisu said: I don't particularly understand why there are so many votes on Jack as of yet. It feels too easy of a lynch? I never like when lynches seem easy. It rubs me the wrong way. I'm still not sure what jack has said that make's him deserving of all those votes in the first place, cause even i feel as though the train both built up too fast and is kinda an easy lynch. Cause scum can easily be hiding in that wagon as we speak. |
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