bioshade2 said: Shinichi-Kun said: Idk just haven't voted yet thats all :D Not always true because rather your town or scum most of the time an aggresive player is always aggresive. ah so the more I play the better feel I would get for the individual players a d their playstyle. Yep :D |
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Bee-Boy said: people think I am town* not because they trust me. Like sheeping town reads for no reason is pretty common from what I have seen. Prob cause your through process is very townlike or maybe thats just me. |
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Bee-Boy said: I won't deny your point (him answering questions rather than asking them was something that raised my eyebrow as well), but what do you think about Jack actually believing the things he is saying?vote: Jackrito He is talking too much about his play style and not enough about scum hunting. He is answering questions rather then asking them. I am just losing the gut feeling I had earlier. That's the feeling I'm somewhat getting from his posts, though I might reread in a bit. |
| oooh didnt realize it started o; been busy all day Vote: Jackrito he's almost always scummm ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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Shuuka said: RVS ended a while ago. oooh didnt realize it started o; been busy all day Vote: Jackrito he's almost always scummm ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) We'd appreciate your thoughts on the gamestate. |
aa-dono said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Not in my books they don't. Anyone behaving shifty during a lynch is going to get questioned and thoroughly checked. Though I find it interesting that you say people sheep based on the person who they townread, I don't find this to be very common reason to sheep a vote - but I could be wrong? Hehe. I love aggressive Soul-nee ^^ Anyway, I think that is very common. At least in the games I've played. Why do you think it's unusual? Do you think most people have other reasons when they sheep? I thought it be more unusual because of people's paranoia play, I would expect people being afraid to commit to a read and trusting someone else's read. I feel as though when sheeping is happening not much thought goes in, and people will sheep because they say "I just want a lynch to happen", if you have time to think about your reads and sheeping someone based on the people or person leading the votes, then why not just spend time on your own reads on the lynch candidates instead? |
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bioshade2 said: Shinichi-Kun said: Idk just haven't voted yet thats all :D Not always true because rather your town or scum most of the time an aggresive player is always aggresive. ah so the more I play the better feel I would get for the individual players a d their playstyle. Welcome to the game. I look forward to seeing you play/giving your thoughts |
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Crossbell said: Bee-Boy said: I won't deny your point (him answering questions rather than asking them was something that raised my eyebrow as well), but what do you think about Jack actually believing the things he is saying?vote: Jackrito He is talking too much about his play style and not enough about scum hunting. He is answering questions rather then asking them. I am just losing the gut feeling I had earlier. That's the feeling I'm somewhat getting from his posts, though I might reread in a bit. He does actually believes what he says, he isn't the type to spout out nonsense when it comes to describing his playstyle preferences, but that isn't indicative to his alignment since he isn't stupid enough to leave a trail with meta tells. |
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| Fair enough. Maybe I do need to re-evaluate my read on Jackrito? Not going to do it just yet, however. There are still a ton of people who haven't posted. |
Crossbell said: Fair enough. Maybe I do need to re-evaluate my read on Jackrito? Not going to do it just yet, however. There are still a ton of people who haven't posted. Yes, I'm interested to see how he will come out on his "sortof RVS" vote which will tell us a bit more. Yes, I'm surprised to not see @LucianRoy make an entrance yet, and @Arrisu too. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Shinichi looks genuine in thinking that since he looks at the thread and doesn’t get any reads out of it yet, no one else should have any reads either. He also buts into someone else’s question in a way that I don’t think a scum would do.SoulEaterQUEEN said: he's scum he's scum he's scum let's lynch him vote: Jackrito everyone we found scum! Why u want jack dead so badly lol Soren said: Am I detecting that you have a slight scum read on him? I doubt it, way to early to have even the slighest scum read in my opinion. Jackrito said: Jack’s posts have made me feel uneasy about him this game but this one is probably the biggest offender. I don’t like how he criticizes Shinichi for buddying when shinichi hasn’t responded yet and it *feels* to me at least like he wants to get a wagon started on him.Soren said: Anyone else getting the feeling that Shinichi-Kun is defending jack? Sadly he is, and I hate when people do this I can defend myself just fine and don't need the help of others. All this does is make me uneasy because it means if they flip bad it reflects badly on me. The whole buddying up thing so early is annoying to say the least. Soren said: Good post ! I definitely agree with your points.Crossbell said: I'm actually get the same gut feeling too. And I can substantiate it a bit more. I am getting the same gut feeling as you, actually! Just wanted to see if you could somewhat substantiate it. #132 Jack being genuine about what he tells his scum buddy in his mafia club. #138 Jack being genuine and open about his adapting playstyle. For me the genuineness is coming from jack being open about the way he plays the game. However, this is making me be careful here. His genuineness is from him being open about himself, but his genuineness isn't telling me what his thoughts are about the game. Jackrito said: A certain recently completed game comes to mind where I lead a policy lynch on a useless town Sightless and your very next post was you suspecting me.I would say he gets town rep, because sightless is one of those lynchs where you will not be blamed if he turns bad and it will be more, blamed on Sightless playstyle. People will like the way that he is proactive in scumhunting and had clear ideas even if wrong as well. SoulEaterQUEEN said: Uh... this really shouldn’t be allowed. Since you guys use a club system here there should probably be a rule that players can’t post before joining all the clubs they need to and confirming that they know their role.I hesitant to read Soren because in my last game I hosted he didn't go into the Mafia Club Day 1 so he didn't know who his mafia buddies were. I’m townreading Soren, Shinichi, and SouleaterQueen atm. Lighter townreads on Crossbell and Beeboy. vote: Jackrito. He should be one of the two we send to The Pit toDay, |
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| They're posting a lot of blunt opinions, which is more likely to come from town. |
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| Why'd you ask me about Beeboy when I also didn't give a reason for townreading SoulEater ? |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: aa-dono said: Hehe. I love aggressive Soul-nee ^^ Anyway, I think that is very common. At least in the games I've played. Why do you think it's unusual? Do you think most people have other reasons when they sheep? I thought it be more unusual because of people's paranoia play, I would expect people being afraid to commit to a read and trusting someone else's read. I feel as though when sheeping is happening not much thought goes in, and people will sheep because they say "I just want a lynch to happen", if you have time to think about your reads and sheeping someone based on the people or person leading the votes, then why not just spend time on your own reads on the lynch candidates instead? Someone who sheeps could have reasons that they just don't wanna disclose tho in any case a town aligned player shouldn't sheep but instead provide thought before they follow someone elses vote. Togs said: They're posting a lot of blunt opinions, which is more likely to come from town. How do blunt opinions make him town? |
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| Page 2 Bee-Boy said: This feels legit in the mindset of "hey, I noticed something relevant during pregame, but going to post it when Day 1 starts".SoulEater and Bioshade are highly likely to not be scum together. SoulEater can you crumb your alignment in your next post so I can see if we can form a town block? Townbloccing seems fine as well. One of these days, Bee-Boy is going to snow me under as scum. I don't think this is the day, however. SoulEaterQUEEN said: @Crossbell tell me what you are most afraid of on seeing what happens in this game? SoulEaterQUEEN: What were you hoping to get out of me answering this question? Jackrito said: This feels somewhat mildly defensive.When have I lurked lately and it is not needed to post on the dot of the game start. Soren said: Was this serious? I assume that this was used to garner reactions.Until we find a good lynch candidate I propose that we policy lynch SightlessReality. He does the same thing every game and every phase where he votes himself and refuses to actively scum hunt. Bonus, he wants to get lynched anyways. Vote: SightlessReality Soren: Was this a reaction test? If so, what reactions/insights did you get from posting this? Still have that incredibly strong townread on SoulEaterQUEEN. Jackrito/SoulEaterQUEEN probably unaligned pairs I think. Jackrito said: This is one of the posts that had me townread Jackrito at the beginning, though it's more theory than anything. It feels like Jackrito is a bit.. resolute? When saying this? I have a hard time conveying it into words but this post just *feels* townie to me.No reason to yet imo trust needs to be earned, not given out freely so early. It is up to me and others to convince you, through our actions and words. They is nothing I have done so far which should of made you, so will not pretend that you should. |
CrossbellJun 11, 2016 6:24 PM
How do blunt opinions make him town? It's a lot easier to blunty post opinions when they're real. |
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Crossbell said: What's your thought process on the unaligned pairs, point it to me if I missed it.Still have that incredibly strong townread on SoulEaterQUEEN. Jackrito/SoulEaterQUEEN probably unaligned pairs I think. |
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Togs said: I wanted more input on the Bee-Boy read, to track if you were following the same process I did when I was townreading him.Why'd you ask me about Beeboy when I also didn't give a reason for townreading SoulEater ? You posted a vague thing which, eh. Doesn't help that much in that regard. |
Togs said: Shinichi-Kun said: Shinichi looks genuine in thinking that since he looks at the thread and doesn’t get any reads out of it yet, no one else should have any reads either. He also buts into someone else’s question in a way that I don’t think a scum would do.Why u want jack dead so badly lol I doubt it, way to early to have even the slighest scum read in my opinion. Jackrito said: Jack’s posts have made me feel uneasy about him this game but this one is probably the biggest offender. I don’t like how he criticizes Shinichi for buddying when shinichi hasn’t responded yet and it *feels* to me at least like he wants to get a wagon started on him.Sadly he is, and I hate when people do this I can defend myself just fine and don't need the help of others. All this does is make me uneasy because it means if they flip bad it reflects badly on me. The whole buddying up thing so early is annoying to say the least. Soren said: Good post ! I definitely agree with your points.I'm actually get the same gut feeling too. And I can substantiate it a bit more. #132 Jack being genuine about what he tells his scum buddy in his mafia club. #138 Jack being genuine and open about his adapting playstyle. For me the genuineness is coming from jack being open about the way he plays the game. However, this is making me be careful here. His genuineness is from him being open about himself, but his genuineness isn't telling me what his thoughts are about the game. Jackrito said: A certain recently completed game comes to mind where I lead a policy lynch on a useless town Sightless and your very next post was you suspecting me.I would say he gets town rep, because sightless is one of those lynchs where you will not be blamed if he turns bad and it will be more, blamed on Sightless playstyle. People will like the way that he is proactive in scumhunting and had clear ideas even if wrong as well. SoulEaterQUEEN said: Uh... this really shouldn’t be allowed. Since you guys use a club system here there should probably be a rule that players can’t post before joining all the clubs they need to and confirming that they know their role.I hesitant to read Soren because in my last game I hosted he didn't go into the Mafia Club Day 1 so he didn't know who his mafia buddies were. I’m townreading Soren, Shinichi, and SouleaterQueen atm. Lighter townreads on Crossbell and Beeboy. vote: Jackrito. He should be one of the two we send to The Pit toDay, A lot of this is based off not knowing my meta the shinchi defense of me I will take issue with and gave the reasons why. I would do this with anyone so don't make this out as me taking adv. You also don't know shinchi meta the stuff he is doing is far from a town read. My point on sightless still stands One of the reasons I suspected you on that game it was wrong I stand by it though. So of course if I see someone doing it I will take issue. if you remember no one else gave you bad rep off that sightless lynch so IIam right. You led some bad tunnels in our last game and seems you are doing the same again here. Stop looking at things to suit your agenda. |
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Togs said: This is all page 2 by the way, I'll ninjaedit that later.Crossbell said: What's your thought process on the unaligned pairs, point it to me if I missed it.Still have that incredibly strong townread on SoulEaterQUEEN. Jackrito/SoulEaterQUEEN probably unaligned pairs I think. The post 71-86 dance with Jackrito and Soul feels incredibly natural and difficult to fake if they are both scum together. |
Crossbell said: Also I feel compelled to bring up something from the rules: Chione said: Each Twilight phase will last for 24 hours. This occurs when there's a tie between two players at the end of the Day phase and occurs before the Night phase starts. During the twilight you discuss and vote. You can only vote for: Each of the players that have been in the tie, no lynch and double lynch (lynch both players). If a tie should occur at the end of this phase, then the person to be lynched will be RNGed between the two lynch candidates. We should be double lynching every single Day. This is a powerful weapon given to us. Me likey this idea. Let's make scum cringe.~ |
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Crossbell said: Page 3 Bee-Boy said: This feels legit in the mindset of "hey, I noticed something relevant during pregame, but going to post it when Day 1 starts".SoulEater and Bioshade are highly likely to not be scum together. SoulEater can you crumb your alignment in your next post so I can see if we can form a town block? Townbloccing seems fine as well. One of these days, Bee-Boy is going to snow me under as scum. I don't think this is the day, however. SoulEaterQUEEN said: @Crossbell tell me what you are most afraid of on seeing what happens in this game? SoulEaterQUEEN: What were you hoping to get out of me answering this question? Jackrito said: This feels somewhat mildly defensive.When have I lurked lately and it is not needed to post on the dot of the game start. Soren said: Was this serious? I assume that this was used to garner reactions.Until we find a good lynch candidate I propose that we policy lynch SightlessReality. He does the same thing every game and every phase where he votes himself and refuses to actively scum hunt. Bonus, he wants to get lynched anyways. Vote: SightlessReality Soren: Was this a reaction test? If so, what reactions/insights did you get from posting this? Still have that incredibly strong townread on SoulEaterQUEEN. Jackrito/SoulEaterQUEEN probably unaligned pairs I think. Jackrito said: This is one of the posts that had me townread Jackrito at the beginning, though it's more theory than anything. It feels like Jackrito is a bit.. resolute? When saying this? I have a hard time conveying it into words but this post just *feels* townie to me.No reason to yet imo trust needs to be earned, not given out freely so early. It is up to me and others to convince you, through our actions and words. They is nothing I have done so far which should of made you, so will not pretend that you should. It was a question to get to know you, learn more about your thinking, get an insight into your behaviour. I mainly picked you because in truth, your town game easily suckers me in as a player, and you may say you lack confidence in your scum game (I can't remember the source so I am apologizing if I am butchering it with my paraphrasing) but I'm still weary of it. |
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SightlessReality said: Double lynching is a double edge sword. It's just as likely to hit town as it is to hit scum. Actually more like to hit town. It doesn't say we have to double lynch you know. |
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Arrisu said: SightlessReality said: Double lynching is a double edge sword. It's just as likely to hit town as it is to hit scum. Actually more like to hit town. It doesn't say we have to double lynch you know. Never said we did, it was the subject at the time. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: That was in the deadchat of Tsundere Madness.It was a question to get to know you, learn more about your thinking, get an insight into your behaviour. I mainly picked you because in truth, your town game easily suckers me in as a player, and you may say you lack confidence in your scum game (I can't remember the source so I am apologizing if I am butchering it with my paraphrasing) but I'm still weary of it. OK, I understand this reasoning. My scum game is really bad btw, you'll know it when you see it. |
Jackrito said: Togs said: Shinichi looks genuine in thinking that since he looks at the thread and doesn’t get any reads out of it yet, no one else should have any reads either. He also buts into someone else’s question in a way that I don’t think a scum would do. Jack’s posts have made me feel uneasy about him this game but this one is probably the biggest offender. I don’t like how he criticizes Shinichi for buddying when shinichi hasn’t responded yet and it *feels* to me at least like he wants to get a wagon started on him. Good post ! I definitely agree with your points. A certain recently completed game comes to mind where I lead a policy lynch on a useless town Sightless and your very next post was you suspecting me. Uh... this really shouldn’t be allowed. Since you guys use a club system here there should probably be a rule that players can’t post before joining all the clubs they need to and confirming that they know their role. I’m townreading Soren, Shinichi, and SouleaterQueen atm. Lighter townreads on Crossbell and Beeboy. vote: Jackrito. He should be one of the two we send to The Pit toDay, A lot of this is based off not knowing my meta the shinchi defense of me I will take issue with and gave the reasons why. I would do this with anyone so don't make this out as me taking adv. You also don't know shinchi meta the stuff he is doing is far from a town read. My point on sightless still stands One of the reasons I suspected you on that game it was wrong I stand by it though. So of course if I see someone doing it I will take issue. if you remember no one else gave you bad rep off that sightless lynch so IIam right. You led some bad tunnels in our last game and seems you are doing the same again here. Stop looking at things to suit your agenda. So you scum read Kaito then? Can you give us examples of what !town!Kaito! and !scum!Kaito! meta tells are like? Also Jack, take note that your tone in this post has changed a bit. |
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| So from what I see right now: seems like mostly town bantering, discussing among each other. I think aa-dono needs to get pressured. She's being a bit odd this game so far. Will anybody help me out here? Vote: aa-dono Also too much blah blah on mechanics & too little voting happening. |
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A lot of this is based off not knowing my meta the shinchi defense of me I will take issue with and gave the reasons why. I would do this with anyone so don't make this out as me taking adv. Can you explain then ?You also don't know shinchi meta the stuff he is doing is far from a town read. My point on sightless still stands One of the reasons I suspected you on that game it was wrong I stand by it though. So of course if I see someone doing it I will take issue. if you remember no one else gave you bad rep off that sightless lynch so IIam right. Because I clearly displayed my reasoning for everything, even my reads that were off. I was a good townie that game and even so you suspected me. So you can understand my skepticism when you say that someone doing the same thing this game would be towncred.You led some bad tunnels in our last game and seems you are doing the same again here. Stop looking at things to suit your agenda. I’m tunneling you after a single post ? You seem kind of eager to paint a picture. |
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| As for Shinichi, his play is scummy too. He's jumping in to people's rescue too quickly. I feel like he does this quite a bit when mafia too. Food for thought. |
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Arrisu said: As for Shinichi, his play is scummy too. He's jumping in to people's rescue too quickly. I feel like he does this quite a bit when mafia too. Food for thought. Oh yeah I never trust Kaito. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Jackrito said: A lot of this is based off not knowing my meta the shinchi defense of me I will take issue with and gave the reasons why. I would do this with anyone so don't make this out as me taking adv. You also don't know shinchi meta the stuff he is doing is far from a town read. My point on sightless still stands One of the reasons I suspected you on that game it was wrong I stand by it though. So of course if I see someone doing it I will take issue. if you remember no one else gave you bad rep off that sightless lynch so IIam right. You led some bad tunnels in our last game and seems you are doing the same again here. Stop looking at things to suit your agenda. So you scum read Kaito then? Can you give us examples of what !town!Kaito! and !scum!Kaito! meta tells are like? Also Jack, take note that your tone in this post has changed a bit. I have a light scum read on Shinchi yes, but not enough to make more of it yet ,my main reason is that when scum he does not scum hunt at all and try to defend others more for later town rep. Which he is doing so far .He also knows I hate people defending me so I see that as me been set up for later game if he was bad. My tone has changed i know that reason is because I hate been tunneled so hard off people in a opening post. Not even looking at any potential postive I have done pinpointing bad only. |
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Arrisu said: Can you substantiate this with meta?As for Shinichi, his play is scummy too. He's jumping in to people's rescue too quickly. I feel like he does this quite a bit when mafia too. Food for thought. |
Arrisu said: Is defending others his scum meta ? I've liked his posts this game, a lot of them feel kind of "useless but speculative" and I can see a mindset of a townie who's a little uncomfortable with the mechanics of scumhunting there.As for Shinichi, his play is scummy too. He's jumping in to people's rescue too quickly. I feel like he does this quite a bit when mafia too. Food for thought. |
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Togs said: Arrisu said: Is defending others his scum meta ? I've liked his posts this game, a lot of them feel kind of "useless but speculative" and I can see a mindset of a townie who's a little uncomfortable with the mechanics of scumhunting there.As for Shinichi, his play is scummy too. He's jumping in to people's rescue too quickly. I feel like he does this quite a bit when mafia too. Food for thought. He's got a lot of experience in games, I don't understand why an experienced townie would be a bit uncomfortable with the mechanics of scumhunting. New players, yes, but experienced ones? Though my view on Kaito is that I am inclined to think he's scummy simply based on my own bias that his way of thinking in never on par with mine in these games. |
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Togs said: Arrisu said: Is defending others his scum meta ? I've liked his posts this game, a lot of them feel kind of "useless but speculative" and I can see a mindset of a townie who's a little uncomfortable with the mechanics of scumhunting there.As for Shinichi, his play is scummy too. He's jumping in to people's rescue too quickly. I feel like he does this quite a bit when mafia too. Food for thought. He will defend people when town but mix in more scum hunting normally. When bad he forgets to scum hunt because too busy defending others they is another scum tell. That happens in later days though. |
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Crossbell said: Arrisu said: Can you substantiate this with meta?As for Shinichi, his play is scummy too. He's jumping in to people's rescue too quickly. I feel like he does this quite a bit when mafia too. Food for thought. If your asking me to go and get proof, I'm way too lazy for that. @Togs - Key word you use there is "useless". To me, if you aren't bothering to push or ask questions then you aren't being protown. Shinichi has more then enough experience with mafia to not be uncomfortable in appearance with mechanics. Though I find it interesting everyone is asking me about Shinichi but not aa-dono. :) |
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| @SoulEaterQUEEN @Soren - I can always count on you guys to help me out with a lynch train. Choo choo guys? ;) |
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Arrisu said: Crossbell said: Can you substantiate this with meta? If your asking me to go and get proof, I'm way too lazy for that. @Togs - Key word you use there is "useless". To me, if you aren't bothering to push or ask questions then you aren't being protown. Shinichi has more then enough experience with mafia to not be uncomfortable in appearance with mechanics. Though I find it interesting everyone is asking me about Shinichi but not aa-dono. :) when I read your post on aa-dono it sounded like you had little info on her but want to put her under the gun to get more info to learn more on her alignment. am I right? |
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Arrisu said: @SoulEaterQUEEN @Soren - I can always count on you guys to help me out with a lynch train. Choo choo guys? ;) I'd prefer it if she was actually online |
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| @SoulEaterQUEEN - Information & thoughts on the game are mostly classified until further notice. Just trust me, yes? |
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Arrisu said: @SoulEaterQUEEN - Information & thoughts on the game are mostly classified until further notice. Just trust me, yes? For now. |
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| Also I'm the exact character that I guessed would be among the unnamed town. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Arrisu said: @SoulEaterQUEEN - Information & thoughts on the game are mostly classified until further notice. Just trust me, yes? For now. Your trust will be proven when I see more pressure on dono. You're reluctance says a lot to me, you know. That isn't typical of you to be hesitant to pressure anybody with me during D1. |
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| Page 3 Shinichi-kun said: Feels like a natural response for Shinichi to give.I can feel the love here boo bear <3 Jackrito said: This is yet another "resolute" response that is making me townread Jack.That is purely your choice if you think that is the right route to take, and back it up with solid reasons and get others to join as well feel free to. I will likewise fight it. Bee-Boy said: I like Bee-Boy's language here - he's saying that he's trying to "solve the game". Once again feels townie to me.I don't like how he originally thought I had nothing to back up the statement "SoulEaterQUEEN and Bioshade can't both be scum" and that didn't raise alarm bells for him. It just feels really weird.... I also want to believe that it is scummy that he finds it odd I am making an effort to solve the game this early on but I have been told that by town here so >_> Jackrito: Can you analyze your wagon? Who do you think is most likely scum within it? |
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Basically, I'm worried about being the miller. :l |
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That isn't a claim. There's no way you can guess who I am based on that information. |
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Arrisu said: Your trust will be proven when I see more pressure on dono. You're reluctance says a lot to me, you know. That isn't typical of you to be hesitant to pressure anybody with me during D1. You'll understand my reluctance soon. Can you trust me, too? |
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| After ISOing aa-dono, I agree with Arrisu and I think Arrisu's likely town as well. Vote: aa-dono |
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