Do you want Yuki Kajiura to do the OST for this anime?

Fai said:


Madoka's both the ost and the narrative is fatalistic as fuck(considering its basically Faust the Anime mixed with Heavenly Comedy) up until the moment of the redemption

Botato said:

I said not all.
And I didn't say anything about the narrative.

ssjokg said:


And please, it is more personal preference than "atmosphere" and thematics.

Pretty sure that whether they use "The battle is to the Strong" or "Light and Darkness" or "Absolute Configuration" in HF's last last fight, the only ones that would care are VN readers.

Fai said:
as I said before, yes, stuff like this certainly would fit Kotomine's monologues or anything "shocking". Otherwise the Madoka OST was pretty much similar to Zero(the only themes to sound really different from Zero stuff were Sayaka's because it was brilliantly placed and the one that plays in Madoka's dream in the first episode). Even the arguably "most action-y" theme in there has that "oh shit we are all going to die" motif in it.

I love Madoka OST to bits and still regularly listen to it, but is depressing and negative as fuck.

This is possibly my favorite thing to come out of Madoka's soundtrack, and surprise, surprise it takes the Kajiura Yuki's motif I mentioned before(from first dream) and adds vocals(and lyrics that perfectly capture Homura's, as the story's true hero's, heroism and self-sacrifice for the person she cared for the most) to it and arranges it in less depressing fashion. I would so not be against the ending song being something like this.


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ssjokg said:
Yeah ok....
As I said before

Botato said:

What I was trying to say is Kajiura can make fitting music. Just because her usual style doesn't fit doesn't automatically make her possible remixes not fitting, before she even makes them. It's possible that she ends up doing so anyway, but they've been hyping this project and teasing fans about it since last year, I don't think they would dare screw up the sound track after all this.

I like it too and listen to tracks from it every day -like right now. And while there are tracks that are certainly very depressing, there are others that are not.

Well, based on this it seems you agree that she can make music that fits. Except that you're not expecting her to, which is understandable given her history (the one I know anyway). I, on the other hand, am a bit more optimistic :p

Can we NOT talk about Rebellion?

Fai said:
The thing is then Kajiura Yuki wrote Song of Storm and Fire and its suddenly "fuck I can make bank with this" and everything afterward is same vein as that, with most of stuff in F/0 and Madoka OST pretty much being thematic remixes of her other stuff.

Fai said:
However I still don't see how anything Kajiura wrote would ever fit since 99% of her works is either violin-ish "doom and gloom" or choruses.

If she remembers that she has composed other songs beyond those involving choruses and doom, she can create SOMETHING, but its still not what I would consider a fit since 99% of her songs can only be associated with either medieval fantasy or exotic locations and travels.

ssjokg said:
And please, it is more personal preference than "atmosphere" and thematics.

Beric said:

EDIT: And can we bring back Kenji Kawai as well?

Fai said:


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spiwar said:
As long as Sachi Tanaka will sing the OP or ED then i'm fine with Yuki Kajura. DEEN's FSN was shit but the OP was good

C-Core said:


Of course it was good, it's based on the VN's OP. :p

Kreemy said:
If she can do bootleg Ufotable projects like Aldnoah.Zero I can't see why they couldn't get her on F/SN.

As for actually wanting her to compose it, only feels natural since this adaption is the F/Z follow up.

Forgetfulness said:
I personally would like an OP by Kalafina :|

The RN OPs from earthmind are p. good as well

Forgetfulness said:
Do you mean like the way it sounds or the meaning?

Maybe they can work something out :|
I mean, to the beginning is basically just describing Kiritsugu, so they might be able to do the same for Shirou? Lol I don't really know what I'm talking about

Botato said:
Me neither but that's what a certain likable TM fan we all know might have responded to you.

ssjokg said:
There is a problem if he or anyone else think that a professional composer cant create music based on the series "themes".

Botato said:
Well from the last time we talked it's basically that Kajiura can but will not.

ssjokg said:
YEah I forgot that KnK, FZ and SAO had the same tone.[spoiler]Sarcasm

Fai said:


KNK adn FZ had exactly same tone in kajiura yuki's copypasta

IN SAO she simply did not even try.

Fai said:


Nope.

It will be Mighty Wind, but with all the badass guitars and synths replaced by overdrawn gothic chorus on repeat.


no but seriously every type moon work has certain style of ost for action
- Tsukihime is full of haunted melodies because of horror-theme topics it deals with
- Fate/Zero is overly-fatalistic because the conclusion is pre-set from the start.
- Fate/Extra is full of techno-beats and artificial sound because its fucking dystopian cyberpunk future, with a bit of Persona-ish funk thrown in
- KnK is mystical, with Budhism motifs, with sense of wonder through twisted reality, rebuilding your self etc.
- Mahoyo is full of grand and "noble" sounding badassery because it focuses on one of the nasuverse's powerhouses, as well as the whole true magic thing, so bassically its what you would expect to play when a giant "fuck-you" is said to all laws of reality. Its the stuff you would get if you took your imaginary theme that would play during Zelretch battle with Type Moon and took it down a few notches
- Kaleid Liner has more somber tone with homages to all of other nasuverse stuff and tendency to go into over-the-top badass music.
- Fate is in itself all about reconstruction after destruction and choosing your path towards the future, so its full of badass guitars and synths and overall badass even more badass guitar and electronic stuff that carries over the tone of doing the best with what you have and surpassing your fears.



Fate/Zero type of kalafina work would outright not fit FSN thematics in the opening.

ssjokg said:

Thank you for replying EXACTLY like I thought you would.
Thank you for proving that you are bullshiting.

Is SAO's tone different?Yes.If the ost itself is good or not doesnt matter.

ssjokg said:
Thank you for trying to cover your contradiction.

Because style/motif/tone isnt affected by the arrangement.

Fai said:


Theme motifs =/= musical arrangement.

Thank you for proving that you are fucking clueless in musical theory.

damastah said:

The italics part alone, nullified the validity of the above argument.

antonn said:
Reading through the VN with the new patch, hope they just use RN's OST.



So gewd.

Kaioshin_Sama said:
Regarding the bitchfit discussion earlier in the thread between Fai and ssjokg I can't help but notice that Fai argued his points about Kaijura using examples while ssjokg just sort of got angry and started flaming anybody that disagree with him as I've noticed his is prone to do and not just with me. All of this points to this show probably having some truly awful episode threads once it airs with /a probably coming in to troll an easy target and all the defensive Type/Moon fans playing right along and being at everybody's throats for not exactly parroting their opinions on Fate/Stay Nights perceived qualities. I expect pretty much every thread too have 1000+ posts of unreadable garbage.

Botato said:
I am trying to disregard what I've seen from your interaction with ssjokg on the forums and take this as an unbiased post, but it just isn't working.

Kaioshin_Sama said:
I don't know why this is even a discussion. I will be absolutely stunned if it's not Kaijura given that for sheer max hyping purposes alone her name ought to be part of the package. Aniplex would never miss a chance to add to the hype of one of their upcoming blockbusters so I'd consider it set in stone. The only way it's not possibly her is if somehow some way she's busy with another project.

Frankly I think the only reason she hasn't been announced yet is to concentrate the hype leading up to the shows premiere and so there can be some feigning of surprise/relief what have you on the part of the community that will be engaging in the hyping. I expect to see the announcement sometime just before the last month before the first episode airs similar to how Sawano was handled with Kill la Kill. If this debuts in October expect the announcement sometime in Early September/Late August.

Regarding the bitchfit discussion earlier in the thread between Fai and ssjokg I can't help but notice that Fai argued his points about Kaijura using examples while ssjokg just sort of got angry and started flaming anybody that disagree with him as I've noticed his is prone to do and not just with me. All of this points to this show probably having some truly awful episode threads once it airs with /a probably coming in to troll an easy target and all the defensive Type/Moon fans playing right along and being at everybody's throats for not exactly parroting their opinions on Fate/Stay Nights perceived qualities. I expect pretty much every thread too have 1000+ posts of unreadable garbage.

Kaioshin_Sama said:


It's definitely not unbiased since it's borne out of experience so I don't see much reason in worrying about that sort of thing. Just be worried about whether it strikes you as at all true or not. It's not like I'm going to get offended if you disagree with it or anything :p

Botato said:
There's also bias against Kajiura/Aniplex, but then again I openly admit to being a huge Kajiura fanboy so..

As for what you said about Fate/ threads I don't think they will be as bad as you're saying they will be. We've had a lot of arguments on this subforum so far but most of them were discussions regarding the VN between fans and for the most part they were great.

Tsuguni said:
Kaijura is great but Kawai is better, i'm still disappointed with no emiya ver in the anime of zero.

Anyway i think Kaijura will do the ost in the new anime, yes. Continuity reasons.