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Jan 29, 2014 4:58 PM
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Ok, I know.....another loli thread, but just bear with me for a little.

I'm not here to discuss whether you're a lolicon or if you think lolicons are pedos or anything like that.

I'm here to discuss the fact that loli is a very misused term for many characters.

Basically everyone has their own definition nowadays and that causes too much confusion.

This IMHO is not a loli....it's a petite bishoujo.....despite her somewhat childish demeanor she doesn't apply to all of the characteristics of being a "loli", the most obvious one being that she's not a small child, she' just short...

However, this is a loli.

She's a small child and has all the characteristics of a "loli".


Ok, enough about me, what about you guys is there a way to distinguish between a loli and a Petite character?

And if so....what do you think are the requirements?
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Jan 29, 2014 5:00 PM
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No, they're both for paedophiles

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JD2411 said:
No, they're both for paedophiles

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so if you sleep with a short girl you are a pedophile?

ps the second picture doesnt work
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mattbenz99 said:
JD2411 said:
No, they're both for paedophiles

/thread


so if you sleep with a short girl you are a pedophile?

ps the second picture doesnt work


I believe it is Tomoka from Ryo Kyu Bu.
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Jan 29, 2014 5:17 PM
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As long as they make my dick go doki doki moe kyun kyun, I won't be too picky on terminology.
Jan 29, 2014 5:22 PM
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Ratohnhaketon said:
As long as they make my dick go doki doki moe kyun kyun, I won't be too picky on terminology.


Paedophile spotted.
Jan 29, 2014 5:32 PM
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worldeditor11 said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
As long as they make my dick go doki doki moe kyun kyun, I won't be too picky on terminology.


Paedophile spotted.


lol, there's a lot of pedophile in mal...
Jan 29, 2014 5:35 PM
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Petite is just as sexy as loli.


Jan 29, 2014 5:36 PM
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So....does anyone actually want to answer the questions I posed?
Jan 29, 2014 5:49 PM

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JustALEX said:
So....does anyone actually want to answer the questions I posed?


Nah you answered your own question pretty well. But feel free to post any Koneko pictures you may have on my wall.
Jan 29, 2014 5:54 PM

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i guess lolis are small girls while petite is just small
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Jan 29, 2014 5:56 PM

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JustALEX said:
So....does anyone actually want to answer the questions I posed?


Baiting MAL users aside...

The only thing I can really think of is that a petite body is plausible in reality whereas a loli seems to be an unnatural construct that's restricted to anime. But the main problem is I really have no idea how to define features of a loli since it all boils down to individual speculation and interpretation.

For example, what would you consider Komari from Non Non Biyori?
Jan 29, 2014 5:57 PM

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Hoppy said:
Petite is just as sexy as loli.

Petite is a sexy loli.
Jan 29, 2014 6:02 PM
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nabokov was arrested for less,world has really changed a lot ;_;
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tsuinteru said:
nabokov was arrested for less,world has really changed a lot ;_;

Have you read the book?
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Jan 29, 2014 6:43 PM

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This thread feels like it's going to take on a twist much like that one where you and Tallon got into it over MiMi...
Jan 29, 2014 6:50 PM
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azzuRe said:
tsuinteru said:
nabokov was arrested for less,world has really changed a lot ;_;

Have you read the book?

yup,was a part of my research on the loli genesis. liked it,thou its hard to concentrate while reading such descriptions
Jan 29, 2014 6:54 PM

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Ntad said:
This thread feels like it's going to take on a twist much like that one where you and Tallon got into it over MiMi...

Well, that's because no one can agree about what a "loli" actually is.

And to be fair, it's mostly due to the fact that some people view loli as a art style (like the art style from Ro Kyu bu or lucky star)...

And others (like me) view lolis as a characteristic that MUST qualify in order to be deemed to be "loli".

In other words....this is....believe it or not, one of the biggest debates in the anime community.

Lol....I know....it's hilariously sad.
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JustALEX said:
believe it or not, one of the biggest debates in the anime community.

worldwide community,specially when judging pedophilia cases,like Roman Polanski case.
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Jan 29, 2014 7:09 PM

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Good job with the quotefail...
Jan 29, 2014 7:15 PM

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Just reported you all to the FBI.
Jan 29, 2014 7:19 PM

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Akatsuki from Log Horizon is petite as she's in her early 20s but looks like a little girl. A loli would be someone who's actually a little girl.

Jan 29, 2014 7:20 PM

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Still waiting for those pics of Koneko on my profile Alex.
Jan 29, 2014 7:25 PM

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My friend got offended when I called the Upotte girls lolis. I don't know, you decide-


I compromised with him at psuedo loli. To me they look like lolis. I know there's really no exact science to this shit, so I've always considered any character that looked 14 or under a loli. I recognize there are different stages of loli.

Loli, no doubt they are lolis.

Pseudo loli, character designs that walk the line. Gets confusing because they have the body of a 14 year old but are sometimes... curvy...


Jailbait, look 16-17. From here on it's safe(r).

Adult, look 18+

I guess with that being said I go by the body type. Anyways, going to burn my computer now.

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Jan 29, 2014 7:28 PM

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IMO, we have 4 basic types of anime girls:

Busty and tall....not loli.

Average size....The Best IMO, and not loli.

Petite....Not loli IMO....but others will disagree...

loli.....obviously, loli.
Jan 29, 2014 7:32 PM

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Toon looks like a 6 year old doll but behaves like a strong woman/shy child and get's put in 'mature' situations? It's Loli.

Toon's just small in stature? It's Petite. Period.

Loli targets perverts in majority, petite is just small framed pretty much.
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JustALEX said:
IMO, we have 4 basic types of anime girls:

Busty and tall....not loli.

Average size....The Best IMO, and not loli.

Petite....Not loli IMO....but others will disagree...

loli.....obviously, loli.


I can agree with these for the most part.
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Shrabster said:
I guess with that being said I go by the body type.

lol, looks like we were both thinking of the same thing at the same time.

And funny enough you came up with four categories just like I did.
Jan 29, 2014 7:43 PM
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The more childlike they appear, the closer they are to loli for me. The way they act/mannerisms/dress also factor into it a lot in my opinion.
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Actually when I look at my 4 basic anime girl types, there's an easier way to remember them by...

Large, Medium, Small, extra small....

Stick to the "regular" sizes and you're fine.
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JustALEX said:
Ntad said:
This thread feels like it's going to take on a twist much like that one where you and Tallon got into it over MiMi...

Well, that's because no one can agree about what a "loli" actually is.

And to be fair, it's mostly due to the fact that some people view loli as a art style (like the art style from Ro Kyu bu or lucky star)...

And others (like me) view lolis as a characteristic that MUST qualify in order to be deemed to be "loli".

In other words....this is....believe it or not, one of the biggest debates in the anime community.

Lol....I know....it's hilariously sad.
In our dear anime community, lolis are generalized as just attractive under-aged characters, but iirc, Nabokov's description was that of a "sexually precocious pre-pubescent girl" or something along those lines.

So if the loli that has the visual characteristics of what the anime community has come to consider loli is not exhibiting the lolita characteristics, she is technically not loli...

Jan 29, 2014 7:52 PM

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Ntad said:

Very nice art to say the very least....

BTW, what do you think Yami is? Just curious.

I think she's average size.
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Yami-chan is definitely not loli by both standards. Remember, she "hates perverts and ecchi things" so she wouldn't fit Nabokov's criteria to begin with.

And, too much chest anyway.

Petite, but not loli.

Of course, that's not what I said in the last big loli thread, but that was just shit-posting and I just wanted to post a pic of loli-Yami.
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Yeah, she could be petite actually....it's pretty tough to say.

But the great thing about TLR, is you get all the size.

Busty and tall = Yui, Lala

Average size = Momo, Run

Petite = Yami? Mea?

Loli = It's gotta be Mikan....I'm still gonna fap artistically appreciate the Mikan doujins though...
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JustALEX said:
Yeah, she could be petite actually....it's pretty tough to say.

But the great thing about TLR, is you get all the size.

Busty and tall = Yui, Lala

Average size = Momo, Run

Petite = Yami? Mea?

Loli = It's gotta be Mikan....I'm still gonna fap artistically appreciate the Mikan doujins though...


I'd say Mikan is petite. The closest thing to a loli in TLR is probably Celine (best girl by the way)
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Except again, if we are going by Nabokov's description, then Celine isn't...but not sure if srs...

Mikan though, most certainly has her moments when she fits the description perfectly. She can be considered for three reasons.

Body type
Age
And when exposed to a certain element from a certain plant-child, most definitely...precocious.

Need some gifs here, Alex...
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Note to self: Watch TLR.
Jan 29, 2014 8:46 PM

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JustALEX said:
And others (like me) view lolis as a characteristic that MUST qualify in order to be deemed to be "loli".


I agree. Kobato from haganai is a legit loli, while Taiga from Tora Dora! is simply a petit.

Right?
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Loli's, petite girls...doesn't matter. They're all adorable to me :P

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And others (like me) view lolis as a characteristic that MUST qualify in order to be deemed to be "loli".


I agree. Kobato from haganai is a legit loli, while Taiga from Tora Dora! is simply a petit.

Right?


Yea, that sounds about right. Age definitely weighs in on if a girl is a loli or not
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When it comes to anime, nope as regardless of what one says, a child-like body is a child-like body. IRL, ya theres a bunch of ways to differentiate.
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This is the very reason I liked to judge whether or not a character is loli based purely on age.
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When it comes to anime, nope as regardless of what one says, a child-like body is a child-like body. IRL, ya theres a bunch of ways to differentiate.

Ok, and how do you define a "child-like body"?

Is it just having flat tits and being short?

What if she's tall?

Did you see the example I made?

Don't you think there is a pretty sizable difference between them?
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The younger the loli, the better.
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My friend got offended when I called the Upotte girls lolis. I don't know, you decide-


I compromised with him at psuedo loli. To me they look like lolis. I know there's really no exact science to this shit, so I've always considered any character that looked 14 or under a loli. I recognize there are different stages of loli.

Loli, no doubt they are lolis.

Pseudo loli, character designs that walk the line. Gets confusing because they have the body of a 14 year old but are sometimes... curvy...


Jailbait, look 16-17. From here on it's safe(r).

Adult, look 18+

I guess with that being said I go by the body type. Anyways, going to burn my computer now.

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JustALEX said:
Petite....Not loli IMO....but others will disagree...


Honestly, people really think she's a loli?
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Hulmy said:
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Petite....Not loli IMO....but others will disagree...


Honestly, people really think she's a loli?

Yes.

Quite a few people think Kuroneko is a loli.....probably because she's short.

Same for Koneko who I used in the OP.
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Judging by body type is difficult. I've seen some flat chested/short Asian chicks that look like lolis in their 20s. I think their faces are the only determinant; can't really explain in words but yea you can tell from facial structure.
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I'd say Mikan is petite. The closest thing to a loli in TLR is probably Celine (best girl by the way)


Celine qualifies as a Toddler. Also Toddlercons are the creepiest fucks out there, I really hope you mean the "best girl btw" in a non-sexual manner.

Also a loli is about everything that looks and act 10-12 and under. Under 4 again then it sorta qualifies as a toddler.
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JustALEX said:
Hulmy said:
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Petite....Not loli IMO....but others will disagree...


Honestly, people really think she's a loli?

Yes.

Quite a few people think Kuroneko is a loli.....probably because she's short.

Same for Koneko who I used in the OP.


Yeah Kuroneko is definitely not a loli, but certainly petite.

To me petite means a very thin waste, and proportional curves everywhere else. Nagato is petite, Misaka Mikoto is petite, I'd even qualify Kurisu despite being a bit lankier.
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Also a loli is about everything that looks and act 10-12 and under. Under 4 again then it sorta qualifies as a toddler.
Yes. Very big difference between the two.
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