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May 28, 2008 7:27 AM
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After trying a variety of distros over the years I have just settled with Arch Linux and am currently using it both on my desktop and local server. Being a very simple distro makes it really easy to make changes and fix problems.
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May 28, 2008 8:22 AM
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I use gentoo on all my machines mostly because i'm used to it. It's not a user friendly, easy distro but extremely flexible. In fact you "must" flex it to your needs because gentoo doesn't come with default settings to begin with. You setup and compile almost everything from scratch.
May 28, 2008 8:24 AM
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Good old Debian, once and for all, I hope.
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May 28, 2008 4:32 PM
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Well, well Shourisha-kun, somehow Gentoo seems to be in the lead, of which I am utterly proud! :P
May 28, 2008 4:43 PM
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Hows the Gentoo community these days? The last I heard it was a little messed up due to some legal matters.
May 29, 2008 3:38 PM
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Old good Gentoo for quite a long time by now. Gentoo-tan's very flexible, she lets me to configure every inch of her by hand. She's such a hottie, i haven't ever thought of switching my distro since i met her :D

Both Debian and Arch Linux are losers, for a hottie has to be real flexible by definition H-H-H :D

The community is almost as merry as it used to be, awaiting for moar to join ;) What legal matters? You're not talking about this one, isn't it?
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Maybe, I dunno. Didn't really pay much attention other than reading the Slashdot article on it.

Gentoo was the third distro I ever used (First being Red Hat 8.0 and second Mandrake I think) and it managed to keep me interested for six months or so, after which the maintenance just got too high. After going through quite a few Debian offshoots I found Arch, which is essentially identical to Gentoo except a few minor differences. The main one being if you do not wish to patch and compile the source by hand with ABS you can choose from a list of precompiled packages from the official repository or see if someone else has already made your dream package in the AUR.

Most of the main programs I use--including the kernel, KDE, MPlayer and Wine--have been patched and compiled by myself. But for the less important things there's no need to waste many hours compiling custom builds when the defaults are fine. ^_^
May 31, 2008 12:42 AM
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How could Arch be similar to Gentoo? Arch has no USE ;D

Writing an ebuild for your own taste patches is only a few minutes. Do you believe it's more efficient to patch-n-compile by hand -albeit few packages- than using portage? You can really mess up this way when directory structure changes a bit since autotools comes with no uninstall. I'd also point out the fact that Gentoo has binary packages offered for various most archs. Get a real package manager, dude :)

PS: Oooh, i love Distro Wars :D

May 31, 2008 12:57 AM
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Wine Gentoo ebuild:



Wine Arch PKGBUILD:



The ebuild may also have Git support but there is also a Git PKGBUILD as well for Arch in the AUR.

Edit: MAL's code tag fails. -_-;
May 31, 2008 4:53 AM

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Aah, seems like i misunderstood that "[...] have been patched and compiled by myself" part.

Still, you shouldn't be modifying the configure switches -which is usually the point of compiling by hand- with pkgbuild, since you may need to modify the dependencies, and maybe dependency of dependencies, and ... correctly by hand if you do so. In other words, you should stick with Arch's built-in "USE". It won't do any good beyond "simple" (ie, those that have nothing to do with USE or introducing new dependencies) patches.

Well, i like my USE flags :D
May 31, 2008 8:54 AM
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Well done, you have perked my interest in Gentoo again. Maybe I'll try it next after OpenSUSE (Which would make it around the end of this year/start of next year).

Many people complain that having many distros is a bad thing, however I think it's actually the opposite. Not everyone wants the same thing, many users' needs are mutually exclusive and cannot both be catered for in a single package, this gives each distro has its own advantages and disadvantages. Ubuntu for those who want to just use Linux with a mostly it-just-works attitude, Fedora/OpenSUSE for those who want something a little more commercialized, Arch Linux for those like myself who want to be able to customize things but those changes are actually only simple ones, and Gentoo for those who make major changes and really want to optimize the sht out of the system.

Yay for the free and OSS world. =D
May 31, 2008 10:12 AM

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Zarin said:
Well done, you have perked my interest in Gentoo again.


:3

Having many distros around is indeed great, for each contribute to projects with minor & major fixes to an extent. For my side however, i'm not eager to give a shot to them anymore, distros aside, i'm no longer playing with Hurd or trying to get Gentoo/FreeBSD working properly on my hardware (in the most extreme curiosity cases, i'd run them via VirtualBox. Inferno is also fine since it comes with it's own "emulator" out of the box). My days of action are behind me, i just want a peaceful life on the stable tree :D

Aaah, almost forgot. YAY! :)
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Ubanto here, or should I say Debian with extra brown. Well, mine isn't brown anymore.

Since it's the only distribution I've used so far (I feel like such a neophyte here), I wanted something that 'just worked' and Ubanto has generally delivered that. Of course, sticking to one distribution forever wouldn't be much fun, so I'd like to experiment eventually. I have to admit the compile from source only approach of Gentoo doesn't really appeal to me right now, but hey, maybe I'll be interested in something like that one day.
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Ooh, distro wars! It's so fun to read. ^.^

I know Salviati-sama doesn't like it, but I like to try different distros. Especially the innovative ones. The last one I tried was GoboLinux -which Salviati-sama cruelly ridiculed. <.< But it had an interesting directory structure, and it allowed both pre-compiled packages and sources to compile. Now it has a USE flag system too. (But I didn't try it, probably it's premature for now. =/)

Unfortunately, I don't use it anymore. Because I grew tired of trying something new and struggling with problems. Since GoboLinux doesn't have much users it wasn't an option for me. So I switched to good-old-Debian. It never let me down, and I hope never will. =)
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I have to admit the compile from source only approach of Gentoo doesn't really appeal to me right now, but hey, maybe I'll be interested in something like that one day.


You should try linux from scratch ;)
Jun 17, 2008 9:19 AM

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I have tried Gentoo, Slackware, Debian, Ubuntu and have toyed for an hour with Mandrake and Redhat and Suse. I'm currently using Ubuntu, but I still like Gentoo and Slackware a lot. Ubuntu currently just fits my needs better.
Jul 9, 2008 2:16 PM

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Just switched over to Gentoo from Kubuntu. Its wonderful.
So make that -1 for Ubuntu and +1 for Gentoo in the poll.
Jul 12, 2008 7:16 AM

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You're welcome, dude :)
...and so Gentoo has taken over the lead again! :D
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Been an ubuntu user since 5.04, but after I recently upgraded my computer, the newest release doesn't support my SATA chip (ICH10) -_-, alpha-3 of the next release still causes a lot of trouble, so by these days I'm not running a GNU/Linux system at all. I hope the problems will be fixed in some weeks.

Does maybe someone else have the ICH10 southbridge working with another distro? It's a Gigabyte P45 mainboard .
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using ubuntu since 7.10, can't wait for the Ibex.
Sep 30, 2008 7:43 PM

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What's the problem with your "new" computer? I mean, what exactly fails? GRUB?
This Gentoo Wiki article suggests that it works fine with GRUB & Linux.
Oct 1, 2008 8:39 AM

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Kubuntu is love...
Oct 1, 2008 8:59 AM
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Ubuntu as Desktop, CentOS as Server..

I used to have Ubuntu as server though, but BudgetDedicated broke the 8.04 image (lots of broken packages, segmentation faults, and what not), so I went for the CentOS 5.2 image.
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[OFF]@Kisho: If it's not personal, what do you use your server for?[/OFF]
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Mainly for hosting of websites (for co-workers, close friends, etc), but also as a file server for Epic Hamster's SVN Repository/Website, and for my own personal Portfolio.
Oct 16, 2008 4:10 AM

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well... once gentoo, always gentoo :)
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Oct 17, 2008 1:29 AM

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Right now i use Linux Mint Elyssa 5 (KDE)

And i love it <3
Oct 17, 2008 4:01 PM

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xefiris said:
well... once gentoo, always gentoo :)

Welcome, brother :D
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I only use Linux for a little bit sometimes to play around and test how windows software runs on it, but I've made a preference clear: Mandriva+KDE. It's worked much better than all others I've tried and its control panel is awesome. Worst I've tried: Kubuntu.
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I've used a few different distros but I find Ubuntu to be my favorite and thats what I use.
Nov 26, 2008 3:41 PM
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After some testing and such, I've settled with Arch Linux. I did try Gentoo, but it was too time-consuming for my taste.

-1 for Ubuntu and +1 for Arch!
Dec 24, 2008 3:49 AM

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I use Gentoo at home and Ubuntu on work machine. Voted for Gentoo.
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For the record, i've been on Arch for a while now. I loved gentoo but their package update releases really slowed down last summer/autumn. Arch seemed like a good alternative with somewhat similar principles and with faster update cycles.
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Muahahaha, another one converted. >=D
Jan 15, 2009 6:41 AM

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Mandriva is my favourite but I use Debian too. Both with Gnome.

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Kubuntu 8.04.1 'cause KDE 4 is still a little bit buggy, i think.
Jan 20, 2009 1:54 PM
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I got in with Ubuntu and got hooked on Arch recently.

Some of the developers of Arch watch Anime, therefore it's a good distro. ;)
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I've been doing a lot of Distro hopping. Right now I'm running Xubuntu on two PCs and thinking about switching to #! Linux.
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I'm the only slacker around here? :(
Mar 19, 2009 10:00 PM

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evilsage4 said:
I'm the only slacker around here? :(

Whoaa! I never imagined i'd ever see one of your kind around! :D
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ubuntu 8.10
Mar 27, 2009 5:38 PM
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salviati said:
evilsage4 said:
I'm the only slacker around here? :(

Whoaa! I never imagined i'd ever see one of your kind around! :D

We are a dying breed...
Mar 27, 2009 5:42 PM
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RHEL and NOVEL should be included to the list.
May 22, 2009 3:30 AM

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I switched to Arch :D For now, at least.
I still think Gentoo rocks, i still wonder how she's doing right now beneath the stars, but well, i don't wanna spend anymore time with updates & revdep-rebuilds, and i still want my unix-natured gentoo-style config files, hence arch :)
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Arch on the desktops, Debian on the server and Mint on my laptop!
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root@Odin ~ # uname -a
Linux Odin 2.6.28-gentoo-r5 #3 SMP Sat May 30 22:14:26 EDT 2009 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 7850 Dual-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux


root@Athena ~ # uname -a
Linux Athena 2.6.28-gentoo-r5 #2 SMP Wed Jun 3 16:13:17 EDT 2009 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux


root@Zeus ~ # uname -a
Linux Zeus 2.6.28-gentoo-r5 #7 SMP Wed Apr 29 03:07:01 EDT 2009 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux


root@Hades ~ # uname -a
Linux Hades 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 #1 Thu Feb 5 03:27:48 EST 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux


Gentoo +4.
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No one's using BSD. why am I not surprised? :)

Well Ubuntu in my case.. well was my case. then ever since vista came I didnt find any need to install Linux on my newer machine. Besides I am a Gamer
I use to use Ubuntu but now Mint derivative seems much more .... I dunno minty?
Personally I don't like all that brown atmosphere. Hate it..
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ever since vista came I didnt find any need to install Linus on my newer machine.


Reliability issues aside, the whole idea behind free software is a matter of principle, not needs.
This also gives a reason to prefer GNU/Linux over BSD as well. So you indeed shouldn't be surprised.
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salviati said:
Reliability issues aside, the whole idea behind free software is a matter of principle, not needs.
This also gives a reason to prefer GNU/Linux over BSD as well. So you indeed shouldn't be surprised.


There's more than one reason why people use a free/open OS. My primary reason is simply because it does everything that I need it to do and using Windows or OS X will not improve my computer sessions to any decent extent. My secondary reason is that I get to learn more lower-level computer skills by writing system software such as window managers and Mesa code--something that you do not have free access to in other OS.

If you're a gamer then there is no need to force yourself to use Linux. It's not a gaming OS and probably won't be for many years to come.
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Zarin said:
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Reliability issues aside, the whole idea behind free software is a matter of principle, not needs.
This also gives a reason to prefer GNU/Linux over BSD as well. So you indeed shouldn't be surprised.


There's more than one reason why people use a free/open OS. My primary reason is simply because it does everything that I need it to do and using Windows or OS X will not improve my computer sessions to any decent extent. My secondary reason is that I get to learn more lower-level computer skills by writing system software such as window managers and Mesa code--something that you do not have free access to in other OS.

If you're a gamer then there is no need to force yourself to use Linux. It's not a gaming OS and probably won't be for many years to come.


Spoken like a true pragmatist, ignoring my whole point.

And as a matter of fact, GNU/Linux, being actually one, is also a better gaming OS --try running Carmack's games on GNU/Linux and windows. Sole fact is, majority of computer game industry avoids GNU/Linux.
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