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Oct 31, 2021 7:02 AM

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His death in his old life gives context to the confliction of how his character develops later, he is a fat shut in who what looks like jacks off to little girls, pretty much scum but then explained later, there is reason for the shut in and messed up situation later on but I'm sure every scumbag has a story on why they are that way. What's important is how he dies, when he is kicked out after missing his family's funeral he walks the streets and sees a highschool girl in trouble, he reacts to that, then when he sees the truck coming for them out of control he put's his life in danger and ultimately sacrifices himself to save them.

That right there is a contradiction if you think he is just an unsavable POS, how many people you know would do the same thing for someone they don't know?

Fundamentally I think he is a good person that has some messed up traits born from trauma it obviously doesn't excuse what he does but he hasn't gone all the way in his desires for it, which does matter.
Nov 5, 2021 11:39 PM
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The quality of Mushoku tensei is extremely high animation wise, the characters look great and even the story isn't bad albiet very slow at times.

The details and way they show Rudeus' parents raising him is fantastic

Paul having an afair is realistic and the way rudeus learns magic + the way its animated are beautiful

So what's wrong with this anime?
1. It's an isekai that doesnt need to be. It adds nothing of value to the story. It only detracts and makes rudeus being a pervert creepily uncomortable instead of funny and relatable.
2. Too much weird lewd scenes involving 12 year olds or younger.

Those of us going in blind happily let the first few slide, like Roxxie listening in on Redeus parents, or even the scene of redeus trying to take a bath with the elf child which was the first red flag for me personally.

But it doesn't stop there, it only gets creepier and goes further downhill and season 2 has been a pretty rough ride for non-cunny chads.

If you completely ignore these parts of the anime, its a VERY good series in comparison to other seasonal Isekai like sheild hero
Nov 6, 2021 3:27 AM

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Sweet-Shot said:
So what's wrong with this anime?
1. It's an isekai that doesnt need to be. It adds nothing of value to the story. It only detracts and makes rudeus being a pervert creepily uncomortable instead of funny and relatable.

I think if anything this show explains why it's a Isekai more then any other, his Flaws from his past life carry on to his new life and the reason he is a Perv(because he was in his past life, don't forget what his family saw him jack off to in his room) and someone that doesn't handle death well(because why would someone from the modern world be right with it), his past life also helps him massively understand magic early on which in turn allows him to build his mana capacity to a stupidly high level at such a young age, it's also how he gets voiceless incantation through trial and error.

The Isekais that don't need to be Isekais are ones where the character goes to a new world and suddenly is awesome at everything and not at all like someone who grew up in the modern world with personality flaws that would not translate well to a fantasy medieval setting.

I think the bath scene with Sylphy was innocent it wasn't sexual given he thought she was a boy and was pretty shaken up when he finds out it's not the case, the show can be confronting but it's a show for a mature audience who are more prepared to see messed up situations.
Nov 15, 2021 8:23 AM
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  • The story is very natural. It is believable. Hence an immersive experience.
  • Rudy is not the yuusha in the story and is thus has his fate controlled by the world and not the other way round like other fantasy/isekai. So it is a much more interesting story where we know the stakes mean something.
  • Art and animation and sound are all top-notch.
  • It best represents the core apeal of isekai: a second chance.
Nov 28, 2021 6:57 AM

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Niello said:
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Bad person, not a bad character


He's also a bad character. A lot of the dialogues are by him and many of them are hypocritical and self serving. This is a power fantasy and the author is doing the usual thing, make the MC OP, try to make him looks smart while arranging things in the back ground to make things go the character's way, purposely set the word so that he can enjoy the harem with no drawback. Incidentally every woman in the series are so tolerant and forgiving to being sexually manipulated, assaulted, and abused.

It's disgusting and immature.


Roxy and Eris both arent very forgiving with any of that. Ironically the character that sleeps around the most and assaults people isnt a guy either, but a girl. (damn lewd elves)

Yes, many dialogues of him are hypocritical and self-serving. That's because he has a bad personality (not he is a bad character) at that point of the story. He does get better, but it requires experiencing things and growing as a result.

Tho one thing I will say is that imo the heroines arent important enough in the second half, and its indeed too Rudi centered.

Emily71 said:
Now, Roxy actually is one of the three characters I actually kinda like but Eris is just annoying being the aggressive, annoying child that she it. But if there'll be actually good characters, then it'll be far more enjoyable.


Unfortunately Roxy doesnt get much screentime. First half of the story is where Rudi gets to interact with the heroines a lot. Second half of the story is more story centric and doesnt feature the heroines as much. However after the intro Roxy doesnt really show up again untill very end of first half, so..

Which sucks since she's (ofcourse: objectively) the best character.

If your watching the anime and you want more of her, then good luck. At this pace it will be at end of season 3.. maybe


Personally I like the show for its art quality, voice acting (Rudi and Roxy esp), having the cast act more 'realistic' or unfiltered, for paying attention to detail and the world building. And some really interesting characters.

ps: Roxy best girl.
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Dec 13, 2021 5:19 PM

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I haven't watched an anime series in years, so I thought I'd have a peek at what's been highly rated recently and dive back in. Unfortunately, this is what I went for. The first episode was pretty interesting, but I'm at episode three now and already it feels tedious.

The lewdness is really weird considering the characters are essentially children, and tonally it's very odd. There are a lot of mature scenes, such as the slob MC jacking off to loli porn, or him being roped to a fence naked while bystanders laugh at his penis, and others like when the blue haired mage is fingering herself in the hallway whilst the MC's parents bang in the background, and then in the same episode it'll have really juvenile aspects that make it seem like a children's show. It's framed in such a weird, contradictory way.

Plus it's so cliche. So many scenes/characters/lines are reproduced basically verbatim from a plethora of other shows. The characters are all archetypes done a trillion times before. I thought I might give it another episode or two, but the more I write about it, the more I wonder if it has any merit at all. I'm puzzled by the high rating.
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Dec 13, 2021 5:31 PM
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I haven't watched an anime series in years, so I thought I'd have a peek at what's been highly rated recently and dive back in. Unfortunately, this is what I went for. The first episode was pretty interesting, but I'm at episode three now and already it feels tedious.

The lewdness is really weird considering the characters are essentially children, and tonally it's very odd. There are a lot of mature scenes, such as the slob MC jacking off to loli porn, or him being roped to a fence naked while bystanders laugh at his penis, and others like when the blue haired mage is fingering herself in the hallway whilst the MC's parents bang in the background, and then in the same episode it'll have really juvenile aspects that make it seem like a children's show. It's framed in such a weird, contradictory way.

Plus it's so cliche. So many scenes/characters/lines are reproduced basically verbatim from a plethora of other shows. The characters are all archetypes done a trillion times before. I thought I might give it another episode or two, but the more I write about it, the more I wonder if it has any merit at all. I'm puzzled by the high rating.


The perveted moments with rudeus are for you to sort of hate him or to see what hes like so you get to see him grow as a person into less of a scumbag. The cliches are so prevalent because mushoku tensei wn was published in 2012 popularized many of the tropes.
Dec 14, 2021 6:02 PM

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Vastilius said:
The perveted moments with rudeus are for you to sort of hate him or to see what hes like so you get to see him grow as a person into less of a scumbag. The cliches are so prevalent because mushoku tensei wn was published in 2012 popularized many of the tropes.

That's just shit characterisation... and those tropes came way before Mushoku Tensei. It just isn't original.
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Dec 20, 2021 3:15 AM
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Simple, Light novel 11/10 dam the ending Is just sad. Same goes for animation goes above and beyond. It's the best isekai!
Dec 20, 2021 3:18 AM
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Pedophelia + Nonsense fanservice + cute girls = instant popularity among anime fans

@xXGunGOBXx it is littered with so many ecchi scenes that I lost count
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Dec 20, 2021 3:22 AM
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Vexem said:
Pedophelia + Nonsense fanservice + cute girls = instant popularity among anime fans

Just No. Where is fanservice?

Jan 13, 2022 8:03 PM

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I have a serious question for the OP.. Why would people not like this? I mean as far as ridiculous questions go, this is no worse than demanding fans of something justify they like of it.. What's so special about people liking this series? I mean we don't see people making threads in the FMA:BH form asking for justification for that! Why is it so hard for certain people to accept that people genuinely like and enjoy things that they themselves don't?


Vexem said:
Pedophelia + Nonsense fanservice + cute girls = instant popularity among anime fans

@xXGunGOBXx it is littered with so many ecchi scenes that I lost count


Whatever you say.. *rollseyes* But at least you're admitting it now. Instead of pitifully trying to pretend that anime fans are all pretentious snobbish/elitist "high art" drones.
Jan 14, 2022 3:25 PM

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Anyone who is considering dropping this should watch at least until episode 9 or 10 before they wholly condemn it.

When I read the manga, I noticed some pedo tendencies from the author, and this was when the author narrated an event that happened to Roxy when she was adventuring, not tutoring the prince. The author made a pedo joke as the narrator, not as the MC, and MC was nowhere to be found. It wasn't a funny joke, except maybe if you're a pedo. I found it gross. It didn't make sense to me as I thought the MC was a pedo, not the author himself, and I dropped it because of that. After expressing this I received the reply, "give it another chance, the story changes for the better," so I did give it another shot and I was pleasantly surprised. However, if the MC does grow beyond his pedo behavior and gross facial expressions etc, then this story may have a long slow burn character development for Rudy, which is rare for anime. Rudy is a hiki neet with pedo tendencies. You're not supposed to like him, you're supposed to root for him as he moves through the adventure and grows from a child mentality into a mature adult.

The adventure story is a bit cliche, but we meet several cultures, and even if they aren't very well elaborated upon, it's a fun ride. The end of the season 2 anime indicates that the author or director intends to focus on methods of hikki-neet rehabilitation as a major part, and it does this moderately well, and sensitively. If I go back to the manga I will probably end up reading the light novel instead.
Jan 17, 2022 6:18 AM

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Shiro_shi said:
Anyone who is considering dropping this should watch at least until episode 9 or 10 before they wholly condemn it.

When I read the manga, I noticed some pedo tendencies from the author, and this was when the author narrated an event that happened to Roxy when she was adventuring, not tutoring the prince. The author made a pedo joke as the narrator, not as the MC, and MC was nowhere to be found. It wasn't a funny joke, except maybe if you're a pedo. I found it gross. It didn't make sense to me as I thought the MC was a pedo, not the author himself, and I dropped it because of that. After expressing this I received the reply, "give it another chance, the story changes for the better," so I did give it another shot and I was pleasantly surprised. However, if the MC does grow beyond his pedo behavior and gross facial expressions etc, then this story may have a long slow burn character development for Rudy, which is rare for anime. Rudy is a hiki neet with pedo tendencies. You're not supposed to like him, you're supposed to root for him as he moves through the adventure and grows from a child mentality into a mature adult.

The adventure story is a bit cliche, but we meet several cultures, and even if they aren't very well elaborated upon, it's a fun ride. The end of the season 2 anime indicates that the author or director intends to focus on methods of hikki-neet rehabilitation as a major part, and it does this moderately well, and sensitively. If I go back to the manga I will probably end up reading the light novel instead.
please read the LN, manga is a terrible adaption.

idk why though, they just decided to skip soo much important things in the story and change alot especially in the shirone arc and after the fittoa refuge camp.
Mar 21, 2022 2:30 AM

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I actually completely agree and I find it sort of insensitive on part of the writer/staff that they'd make a story about the redemption of someone who doesn't deserve it.

I know he develops and changes and whatnot, but the things he did in his previous life are so vile and messed up that I couldn't see myself ever rooting for a character like that.
Apr 16, 2023 4:18 PM
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I really enjoy the show. The only thing I really see wrong with it is the fact it’s riding the line of pediphilia in some ways. Technically he’s 34 in a 13 year olds body. Yes it’s realistic that he would go after women his age since in the new world he’s still a child. But it doesn’t make it better that he’s still mentally 34. Which is why a lot of people hate the show. Which almost turned me off of it too. But if you skip over the shitty uncomfortable parts. Wish they waited till he was 18 to make him like. Trying to do things. Being a pervert and a pedo are two different things. And this show just makes it so confusing. But people love it because of the story. Characters. And animation. The fights in this show are god tear
May 9, 2023 7:11 PM
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I spoiled myself a bit to verify my suspicions, and here's what I got (no major spoilers):
No major spoilers my ass!
May 9, 2023 7:30 PM
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So Rudeas is a bit of a perv. Why does that make him a "scumbag" as many people here are so eager to label him as? Quite frankly, I think the Medieval moral standards are better then today's standards if today's morality says that a little sexual mischief makes you an irredeemable monster in everybody's eyes no matter how many good things you do in life for the people around you.

Have y'all ever considered that maybe the people he is playing these sexual pranks on don't think its as big of a hairy deal as you do? Roxy knows he stole her panties, she still writes affectionate letters to him, Eris has caught him in several compromising positions, she still likes him too, Sylphiette also still likes him even though he removed all her clothing.

And also consider the fact that lots of other guys around him are acting the exact same way. None of the adults in this world seem to think this stuff is a big deal and they seem rather nonchalant even about the idea of Rudeas and Eris sleeping together. The prince Roxy is tutoring now is more pervy then he is, by a long shot too.

Perhaps all these people like Rudeas because he is a good person, he helps the weak instead of bullying them, he is always looking out for the people around him and trying to help them in life. Rudeas never behaves maliciously, he is always uplifting others and has a strong sense of justice. He teaches the other people valuable lessons that are impacting them in a positive way for the rest of their lives. Rudeas is working for 5 years with a family he didn't know at all so he can pay for his possibly future girlfriend to go to school with him. He did not throw a tantrum or act like a brat when he father said no, he made a perfectly reasonable compromise and asked his father to let him work for the opportunity to go to school with her. That shows what a caring and fair person Rudeas really is. If Rudeas hadn't come into many of these people's lives, who knows what would have happened to their future.

But according to the consensus here, he is "a scumbag" and "a terrible person" because he stole some panties and fondled a girl a little who ultimately didn't see it as that big of a deal? Jesus christ. Were you guys ever kids yourself? Kids do weird/pervy shit that is not an acceptable way to behave once you're an adult anymore. Kids flash their private parts at you, they peek on you while you're going to the bathroom, in the elementary school I went to the girls used to chase the boys around and forcibly kiss them. Back in the middle school I went to, lots of guys, and I do mean lots of them would "accidentally on purpose" bump into girls and feel them up a little. When I was in class once, a girl grabbed my ass as I was walking past her desk. Nobody was "scarred" or "traumatized for life" by these things. Nowadays, its just a funny story about things only kids can really do without that kind of behavior being an indication of a truly dangerous person.

Now if Rudeas had been killing small animals or bullying other kids, then I'd agree with the moral assessment others are making of him. But for stealing some panties? You guys need to learn better moral priorities. Ever heard of a panty raid? It wasn't that long ago that things like that were quite common and people just saw it as youthful pranking.
Very well said, I wish I could have given your post a like instead of having to make a whole post just to say that
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I really liked this show off the bay. I thought the animation was beautiful. I thought the premise was amusing. There is perversion in most anime/manga. I have no qualms against it. I think it’s funny most of the time. Bottom line is, this is not real life so it’s fine. This anime however had me feeling some kinda way. I was mostly okay with it up until Eris is asleep and Rudius starts to grope her. She what, maybe 8-years-old. I had to call it quits, that made me so uncomfortable.

If they had backed off on that I would still find it amusing. How he’s attracted to his mother, he steals panties. That’s funny. A grown man in a child’s body groping a sleeping little girl. Oooo nah though.
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