Monogatari Series: First Season
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Jun 3, 2021 7:20 AM
#151
BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. Dialogue heavy shows aren't just for u...Plus the confused timeline can't ruin an anime s stop with that, look at fate series smh that show also has one.. screaming fan boys, me, i just stated facts "don't state opinions without show" yesterday...And urs one is not just that u don't like it it's just pure hatred, so it's impossible convince u, And again stop with ur confused timeline as it doesn't ruin any show, go and watch fate series build some experience then talk..There is difference between screaming and stating facts... First of all. Yes a incoherent timeline can harm a show. Especially if it is dialogue or character heavy. Fate is actually a good example but I'd say it's more akin to Kingdom Hearts and I won't stop since it is a valid point despite your bitching. And you obviously don't know what an opinion is. You are stating an "opinion" as am I. Your "opinion" is not "facts". Just as I thought u don't know why NisO made the timeline like that, He wanted viewers to focus on the characters, the culture and dialogues, He made it like cuz he doesn't wanted to viewers to stay focus on who stay alive or who dies as he did in Otorimonogatari. So pls stop without knowing the actual reason. It's an undeniable fact that "Opinion without knowing the source doesn't count as an opinion", even an elementary school student would say that. Actually, I don't care about that. Intention doesn't equal execution. The second paragraph you typed is actual gibberish "he doesn't wanted to viewers to stay focus on who stay alive or who dies as he did in Otorimonogatari" English please. And sure if this was a standardized test then maybe. However it isn't this is more akin to someone saying "he hates swiss" after tasting and someone barges in tears in his eyes saying "you can't say that about swiss unless you eat all of it." which is just asinine. NisiO told that himself. Just as I thought u have pure hatred from ur heart. and pls drop this matter. Again, don't care. Although "told that himself" makes it sound like he like Nisi0 had to convince himself it was a good idea. Which it wasn't. Makes the show a incoherent mess. And I will continue repeating this criticism not because I hate the show but because (1) It's my opinion. (2) It pisses toxic fans like you off. You want me to stop? Then stop being toxic and defensive on your favorite toy like a child being told no. |
Jun 3, 2021 7:21 AM
#152
Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. It's just as said u don't like dialogue heavy shows, u mostly care about actions just as I saw in ur profile characters fav from MHA.Dragon ball, and the bore characters that u talk about(lmao can't stop laughing btw) are the archetype characters, and that is MONO is the first to reveal characters like that and anyway it's just pure hatred from ur heart can't do anything about it.. Please reread my state I believe I said I usually enjoy dialogue heavy shows. Plus what happened to feeling "arguing with someone who hasn't watched the show being pointless."? And yes I like the characters from the show. Doesn't mean anything unless you are implying Koyomi is the same as Goku or something. (they aren't) or that Monogatari series is the same as DBZ (which it isn't). The characters in Monogatari by and large have no charisma and not alot of impact to me and I can like both. There was a character or two I liked in Monogatari but I hadn't added them. (and now probably won't because it obviously drives fanboys such as you up the wall) And aside from your bad grammar which makes it difficult to decipher what you say I thinks it's silly that you can't even comprehend the most basic skills of conversation since you sincerely think you are the only person with an objective opinion and can argue that someone misinterpreted their own opinion. When really you can barely read. You are however a gleaming example of how I see the fanbase usually: narcissistic idiots. (Also you don't have to quote me twice to add on to your looney rant. You could just hit the edit button.) and i think we should move this any further, we have different taste, that's it. So we got along despite our different taste. and sorry if I hurted ur feelings Actually maybe if you stopped at that maybe but and I'm not suprised this went past your head you got pissy because *gasp* people didn't loke the show. So you went out of you way to try to decry all detractors as having illegitimate opinions and only yours showed be recognized and validated because you watched a cartoon show. Trust me you didn't "hurted" my feelings. Very worst I consider fanboy rants annoying. Yours is just silly and barely comprehensive. AH SHIT u got triggered, and i don't think ppl dislike this show lmao, the thread itself says "why do ppl like this show" smh, and u think 3 of the seasons of monogatari became top 50 in mal without any reason. |
Jun 3, 2021 7:22 AM
#153
Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. Dialogue heavy shows aren't just for u...Plus the confused timeline can't ruin an anime s stop with that, look at fate series smh that show also has one.. screaming fan boys, me, i just stated facts "don't state opinions without show" yesterday...And urs one is not just that u don't like it it's just pure hatred, so it's impossible convince u, And again stop with ur confused timeline as it doesn't ruin any show, go and watch fate series build some experience then talk..There is difference between screaming and stating facts... First of all. Yes a incoherent timeline can harm a show. Especially if it is dialogue or character heavy. Fate is actually a good example but I'd say it's more akin to Kingdom Hearts and I won't stop since it is a valid point despite your bitching. And you obviously don't know what an opinion is. You are stating an "opinion" as am I. Your "opinion" is not "facts". Just as I thought u don't know why NisO made the timeline like that, He wanted viewers to focus on the characters, the culture and dialogues, He made it like cuz he doesn't wanted to viewers to stay focus on who stay alive or who dies as he did in Otorimonogatari. So pls stop without knowing the actual reason. It's an undeniable fact that "Opinion without knowing the source doesn't count as an opinion", even an elementary school student would say that. Actually, I don't care about that. Intention doesn't equal execution. The second paragraph you typed is actual gibberish "he doesn't wanted to viewers to stay focus on who stay alive or who dies as he did in Otorimonogatari" English please. And sure if this was a standardized test then maybe. However it isn't this is more akin to someone saying "he hates swiss" after tasting and someone barges in tears in his eyes saying "you can't say that about swiss unless you eat all of it." which is just asinine. NisiO told that himself. Just as I thought u have pure hatred from ur heart. and pls drop this matter. Again, don't care. Although "told that himself" makes it sound like he like Nisi0 had to convince himself it was a good idea. Which it wasn't. Makes the show a incoherent mess. And I will continue repeating this criticism not because I hate the show but because (1) It's my opinion. (2) It pisses toxic fans like you off. You want me to stop? Then stop being toxic and defensive on your favorite toy like a child being told no. yah yah okay, bruh. |
Jun 3, 2021 7:25 AM
#154
BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. It's just as said u don't like dialogue heavy shows, u mostly care about actions just as I saw in ur profile characters fav from MHA.Dragon ball, and the bore characters that u talk about(lmao can't stop laughing btw) are the archetype characters, and that is MONO is the first to reveal characters like that and anyway it's just pure hatred from ur heart can't do anything about it.. Please reread my state I believe I said I usually enjoy dialogue heavy shows. Plus what happened to feeling "arguing with someone who hasn't watched the show being pointless."? And yes I like the characters from the show. Doesn't mean anything unless you are implying Koyomi is the same as Goku or something. (they aren't) or that Monogatari series is the same as DBZ (which it isn't). The characters in Monogatari by and large have no charisma and not alot of impact to me and I can like both. There was a character or two I liked in Monogatari but I hadn't added them. (and now probably won't because it obviously drives fanboys such as you up the wall) And aside from your bad grammar which makes it difficult to decipher what you say I thinks it's silly that you can't even comprehend the most basic skills of conversation since you sincerely think you are the only person with an objective opinion and can argue that someone misinterpreted their own opinion. When really you can barely read. You are however a gleaming example of how I see the fanbase usually: narcissistic idiots. (Also you don't have to quote me twice to add on to your looney rant. You could just hit the edit button.) Listen mate should I believe that or not, your list has nothing expect Bakemonogatari. How can I believe that? lmao I guess your life is all about Myanimelist? I mean mine isn't but okay. lol What if I put on that I watched every single episode of every single series of Monogatari on the list? Because that's what you are going off off and both require my input to inform. |
Jun 3, 2021 7:28 AM
#155
Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. It's just as said u don't like dialogue heavy shows, u mostly care about actions just as I saw in ur profile characters fav from MHA.Dragon ball, and the bore characters that u talk about(lmao can't stop laughing btw) are the archetype characters, and that is MONO is the first to reveal characters like that and anyway it's just pure hatred from ur heart can't do anything about it.. Please reread my state I believe I said I usually enjoy dialogue heavy shows. Plus what happened to feeling "arguing with someone who hasn't watched the show being pointless."? And yes I like the characters from the show. Doesn't mean anything unless you are implying Koyomi is the same as Goku or something. (they aren't) or that Monogatari series is the same as DBZ (which it isn't). The characters in Monogatari by and large have no charisma and not alot of impact to me and I can like both. There was a character or two I liked in Monogatari but I hadn't added them. (and now probably won't because it obviously drives fanboys such as you up the wall) And aside from your bad grammar which makes it difficult to decipher what you say I thinks it's silly that you can't even comprehend the most basic skills of conversation since you sincerely think you are the only person with an objective opinion and can argue that someone misinterpreted their own opinion. When really you can barely read. You are however a gleaming example of how I see the fanbase usually: narcissistic idiots. (Also you don't have to quote me twice to add on to your looney rant. You could just hit the edit button.) Listen mate should I believe that or not, your list has nothing expect Bakemonogatari. How can I believe that? lmao I guess your life is all about Myanimelist? I mean mine isn't but okay. lol What if I put on that I watched every single episode of every single series of Monogatari on the list? Because that's what you are going off off and both require my input to inform. okay. bruh nice going, i am having fun, something left to say? |
Jun 3, 2021 7:30 AM
#156
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Jun 3, 2021 7:31 AM
#157
BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: |BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. Dialogue heavy shows aren't just for u...Plus the confused timeline can't ruin an anime s stop with that, look at fate series smh that show also has one.. screaming fan boys, me, i just stated facts "don't state opinions without show" yesterday...And urs one is not just that u don't like it it's just pure hatred, so it's impossible convince u, And again stop with ur confused timeline as it doesn't ruin any show, go and watch fate series build some experience then talk..There is difference between screaming and stating facts... First of all. Yes a incoherent timeline can harm a show. Especially if it is dialogue or character heavy. Fate is actually a good example but I'd say it's more akin to Kingdom Hearts and I won't stop since it is a valid point despite your bitching. And you obviously don't know what an opinion is. You are stating an "opinion" as am I. Your "opinion" is not "facts". At least know you should know about Fate b4 you say anything about it. Nope, can still have an opinion on it and it can still be constructive. You obviously seem to underestimate the power of first impressions. Which BTW by the sounds of everything you haven't really challenged that. You are pretty much saying that I (and others) should continue to watch it. I mean I'm slowly rewatching it anyway (mostly because other fans who aren't obsessed with the show were encouraging, gave tips and thier own opinion and not shitty) but let me ask you specifically. Why? Why should anyone who doesn't like a show force themselves to endure the thing they aren't liking? |
Jun 3, 2021 7:36 AM
#158
Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. Dialogue heavy shows aren't just for u...Plus the confused timeline can't ruin an anime s stop with that, look at fate series smh that show also has one.. screaming fan boys, me, i just stated facts "don't state opinions without show" yesterday...And urs one is not just that u don't like it it's just pure hatred, so it's impossible convince u, And again stop with ur confused timeline as it doesn't ruin any show, go and watch fate series build some experience then talk..There is difference between screaming and stating facts... First of all. Yes a incoherent timeline can harm a show. Especially if it is dialogue or character heavy. Fate is actually a good example but I'd say it's more akin to Kingdom Hearts and I won't stop since it is a valid point despite your bitching. And you obviously don't know what an opinion is. You are stating an "opinion" as am I. Your "opinion" is not "facts". At least know you should know about Fate b4 you say anything about it. Nope, can still have an opinion on it and it can still be constructive. You obviously seem to underestimate the power of first impressions. Which BTW by the sounds of everything you haven't really challenged that. You are pretty much saying that I (and others) should continue to watch it. I mean I'm slowly rewatching it anyway (mostly because other fans who aren't obsessed with the show were encouraging, gave tips and thier own opinion and not shitty) but let me ask you specifically. Why? Why should anyone who doesn't like a show force themselves to endure the thing they aren't liking? So back to the first question huh? i can't help it if u don't like it. And the confusion of the timeline that u talk about will be cleared after the series. And from ur favs I can say that u like shounen characters, so maybe this isn't just for u. |
Jun 3, 2021 7:40 AM
#159
BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. It's just as said u don't like dialogue heavy shows, u mostly care about actions just as I saw in ur profile characters fav from MHA.Dragon ball, and the bore characters that u talk about(lmao can't stop laughing btw) are the archetype characters, and that is MONO is the first to reveal characters like that and anyway it's just pure hatred from ur heart can't do anything about it.. Please reread my state I believe I said I usually enjoy dialogue heavy shows. Plus what happened to feeling "arguing with someone who hasn't watched the show being pointless."? And yes I like the characters from the show. Doesn't mean anything unless you are implying Koyomi is the same as Goku or something. (they aren't) or that Monogatari series is the same as DBZ (which it isn't). The characters in Monogatari by and large have no charisma and not alot of impact to me and I can like both. There was a character or two I liked in Monogatari but I hadn't added them. (and now probably won't because it obviously drives fanboys such as you up the wall) And aside from your bad grammar which makes it difficult to decipher what you say I thinks it's silly that you can't even comprehend the most basic skills of conversation since you sincerely think you are the only person with an objective opinion and can argue that someone misinterpreted their own opinion. When really you can barely read. You are however a gleaming example of how I see the fanbase usually: narcissistic idiots. (Also you don't have to quote me twice to add on to your looney rant. You could just hit the edit button.) and i think we should move this any further, we have different taste, that's it. So we got along despite our different taste. and sorry if I hurted ur feelings Actually maybe if you stopped at that maybe but and I'm not suprised this went past your head you got pissy because *gasp* people didn't loke the show. So you went out of you way to try to decry all detractors as having illegitimate opinions and only yours showed be recognized and validated because you watched a cartoon show. Trust me you didn't "hurted" my feelings. Very worst I consider fanboy rants annoying. Yours is just silly and barely comprehensive. AH SHIT u got triggered, and i don't think ppl dislike this show lmao, the thread itself says "why do ppl like this show" smh, and u think 3 of the seasons of monogatari became top 50 in mal without any reason. Oh shit he said something triggered. Nah, just find you annoying and desperate. And ok you can be delusional. Some people have actually stated they don't like this show in this thread. You also lack understanding of what consensus gentium is. A show being popular isn't a universally held belief and also much like your grammer your argument is now inconsistent as well. Changing from "different tastes" to "nobody hates the show". But hey DBZ is one of the most popular shows of all time. So I guess that means it has no flaws by your logic. |
Jun 3, 2021 7:42 AM
#160
| because they are pedophiles smh my head |
Jun 3, 2021 7:47 AM
#161
BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: |BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. Dialogue heavy shows aren't just for u...Plus the confused timeline can't ruin an anime s stop with that, look at fate series smh that show also has one.. screaming fan boys, me, i just stated facts "don't state opinions without show" yesterday...And urs one is not just that u don't like it it's just pure hatred, so it's impossible convince u, And again stop with ur confused timeline as it doesn't ruin any show, go and watch fate series build some experience then talk..There is difference between screaming and stating facts... First of all. Yes a incoherent timeline can harm a show. Especially if it is dialogue or character heavy. Fate is actually a good example but I'd say it's more akin to Kingdom Hearts and I won't stop since it is a valid point despite your bitching. And you obviously don't know what an opinion is. You are stating an "opinion" as am I. Your "opinion" is not "facts". At least know you should know about Fate b4 you say anything about it. Nope, can still have an opinion on it and it can still be constructive. You obviously seem to underestimate the power of first impressions. Which BTW by the sounds of everything you haven't really challenged that. You are pretty much saying that I (and others) should continue to watch it. I mean I'm slowly rewatching it anyway (mostly because other fans who aren't obsessed with the show were encouraging, gave tips and thier own opinion and not shitty) but let me ask you specifically. Why? Why should anyone who doesn't like a show force themselves to endure the thing they aren't liking? So back to the first question huh? i can't help it if u don't like it. And the confusion of the timeline that u talk about will be cleared after the series. And from ur favs I can say that u like shounen characters, so maybe this isn't just for u. First of all that was never the question. It was "why should I force myself to watch it if I don't like it to have an opinion?" Secondly, I cast doubt on that and doesn't really address it as a very valid as an issue right now. Since it is now babble. Thirdly I like many shows and characters that I don't always publicize. For example I love myself some comedies and romance genres. Me liking a character doesn't mean anything and you have a very shallow way of thinking if you genuinely believe this |
Jun 3, 2021 7:48 AM
#162
Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. It's just as said u don't like dialogue heavy shows, u mostly care about actions just as I saw in ur profile characters fav from MHA.Dragon ball, and the bore characters that u talk about(lmao can't stop laughing btw) are the archetype characters, and that is MONO is the first to reveal characters like that and anyway it's just pure hatred from ur heart can't do anything about it.. Please reread my state I believe I said I usually enjoy dialogue heavy shows. Plus what happened to feeling "arguing with someone who hasn't watched the show being pointless."? And yes I like the characters from the show. Doesn't mean anything unless you are implying Koyomi is the same as Goku or something. (they aren't) or that Monogatari series is the same as DBZ (which it isn't). The characters in Monogatari by and large have no charisma and not alot of impact to me and I can like both. There was a character or two I liked in Monogatari but I hadn't added them. (and now probably won't because it obviously drives fanboys such as you up the wall) And aside from your bad grammar which makes it difficult to decipher what you say I thinks it's silly that you can't even comprehend the most basic skills of conversation since you sincerely think you are the only person with an objective opinion and can argue that someone misinterpreted their own opinion. When really you can barely read. You are however a gleaming example of how I see the fanbase usually: narcissistic idiots. (Also you don't have to quote me twice to add on to your looney rant. You could just hit the edit button.) and i think we should move this any further, we have different taste, that's it. So we got along despite our different taste. and sorry if I hurted ur feelings Actually maybe if you stopped at that maybe but and I'm not suprised this went past your head you got pissy because *gasp* people didn't loke the show. So you went out of you way to try to decry all detractors as having illegitimate opinions and only yours showed be recognized and validated because you watched a cartoon show. Trust me you didn't "hurted" my feelings. Very worst I consider fanboy rants annoying. Yours is just silly and barely comprehensive. AH SHIT u got triggered, and i don't think ppl dislike this show lmao, the thread itself says "why do ppl like this show" smh, and u think 3 of the seasons of monogatari became top 50 in mal without any reason. Oh shit he said something triggered. Nah, just find you annoying and desperate. And ok you can be delusional. Some people have actually stated they don't like this show in this thread. You also lack understanding of what consensus gentium is. A show being popular isn't a universally held belief and also much like your grammer your argument is now inconsistent as well. Changing from "different tastes" to "nobody hates the show". But hey DBZ is one of the most popular shows of all time. So I guess that means it has no flaws by your logic. when tf i typed popularity is ranking. I said 3 seasons of monogatari is in top 50 of mal, and monogatari ain't popular as other popular shows. and ofc there are ppl who hates mono, I have seen tons of em, even one of my friends don't like it. I believe there are no shows in the world which doesn't get hatred. |
Jun 3, 2021 7:49 AM
#163
BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. It's just as said u don't like dialogue heavy shows, u mostly care about actions just as I saw in ur profile characters fav from MHA.Dragon ball, and the bore characters that u talk about(lmao can't stop laughing btw) are the archetype characters, and that is MONO is the first to reveal characters like that and anyway it's just pure hatred from ur heart can't do anything about it.. Please reread my state I believe I said I usually enjoy dialogue heavy shows. Plus what happened to feeling "arguing with someone who hasn't watched the show being pointless."? And yes I like the characters from the show. Doesn't mean anything unless you are implying Koyomi is the same as Goku or something. (they aren't) or that Monogatari series is the same as DBZ (which it isn't). The characters in Monogatari by and large have no charisma and not alot of impact to me and I can like both. There was a character or two I liked in Monogatari but I hadn't added them. (and now probably won't because it obviously drives fanboys such as you up the wall) And aside from your bad grammar which makes it difficult to decipher what you say I thinks it's silly that you can't even comprehend the most basic skills of conversation since you sincerely think you are the only person with an objective opinion and can argue that someone misinterpreted their own opinion. When really you can barely read. You are however a gleaming example of how I see the fanbase usually: narcissistic idiots. (Also you don't have to quote me twice to add on to your looney rant. You could just hit the edit button.) Listen mate should I believe that or not, your list has nothing expect Bakemonogatari. How can I believe that? lmao I guess your life is all about Myanimelist? I mean mine isn't but okay. lol What if I put on that I watched every single episode of every single series of Monogatari on the list? Because that's what you are going off off and both require my input to inform. okay. bruh nice going, i am having fun, something left to say? I bet you are since this is probably the most attention you got in years. Anyway, hmmm. No, I stated my opinion on the series. Trying to rewatch it but fans like you really do take the fun out of discussion. |
Jun 3, 2021 7:51 AM
#164
PiyushSan said: Mods should probably lock this thread. Ikr, I mean no thread like this should exist for any anime. |
Jun 3, 2021 7:51 AM
#165
| damn these guys actually unironically arguing on MAL fr fr |
Jun 3, 2021 7:52 AM
#166
Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. It's just as said u don't like dialogue heavy shows, u mostly care about actions just as I saw in ur profile characters fav from MHA.Dragon ball, and the bore characters that u talk about(lmao can't stop laughing btw) are the archetype characters, and that is MONO is the first to reveal characters like that and anyway it's just pure hatred from ur heart can't do anything about it.. Please reread my state I believe I said I usually enjoy dialogue heavy shows. Plus what happened to feeling "arguing with someone who hasn't watched the show being pointless."? And yes I like the characters from the show. Doesn't mean anything unless you are implying Koyomi is the same as Goku or something. (they aren't) or that Monogatari series is the same as DBZ (which it isn't). The characters in Monogatari by and large have no charisma and not alot of impact to me and I can like both. There was a character or two I liked in Monogatari but I hadn't added them. (and now probably won't because it obviously drives fanboys such as you up the wall) And aside from your bad grammar which makes it difficult to decipher what you say I thinks it's silly that you can't even comprehend the most basic skills of conversation since you sincerely think you are the only person with an objective opinion and can argue that someone misinterpreted their own opinion. When really you can barely read. You are however a gleaming example of how I see the fanbase usually: narcissistic idiots. (Also you don't have to quote me twice to add on to your looney rant. You could just hit the edit button.) Listen mate should I believe that or not, your list has nothing expect Bakemonogatari. How can I believe that? lmao I guess your life is all about Myanimelist? I mean mine isn't but okay. lol What if I put on that I watched every single episode of every single series of Monogatari on the list? Because that's what you are going off off and both require my input to inform. okay. bruh nice going, i am having fun, something left to say? I bet you are since this is probably the most attention you got in years. Anyway, hmmm. No, I stated my opinion on the series. Trying to rewatch it but fans like you really do take the fun out of discussion. okay okay calm down. XD Next time u reply I will gladly type #ignored i don't want this shitty dumpster fire conversation to continue |
Jun 3, 2021 7:55 AM
#167
Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: |BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. Dialogue heavy shows aren't just for u...Plus the confused timeline can't ruin an anime s stop with that, look at fate series smh that show also has one.. screaming fan boys, me, i just stated facts "don't state opinions without show" yesterday...And urs one is not just that u don't like it it's just pure hatred, so it's impossible convince u, And again stop with ur confused timeline as it doesn't ruin any show, go and watch fate series build some experience then talk..There is difference between screaming and stating facts... First of all. Yes a incoherent timeline can harm a show. Especially if it is dialogue or character heavy. Fate is actually a good example but I'd say it's more akin to Kingdom Hearts and I won't stop since it is a valid point despite your bitching. And you obviously don't know what an opinion is. You are stating an "opinion" as am I. Your "opinion" is not "facts". At least know you should know about Fate b4 you say anything about it. Nope, can still have an opinion on it and it can still be constructive. You obviously seem to underestimate the power of first impressions. Which BTW by the sounds of everything you haven't really challenged that. You are pretty much saying that I (and others) should continue to watch it. I mean I'm slowly rewatching it anyway (mostly because other fans who aren't obsessed with the show were encouraging, gave tips and thier own opinion and not shitty) but let me ask you specifically. Why? Why should anyone who doesn't like a show force themselves to endure the thing they aren't liking? So back to the first question huh? i can't help it if u don't like it. And the confusion of the timeline that u talk about will be cleared after the series. And from ur favs I can say that u like shounen characters, so maybe this isn't just for u. First of all that was never the question. It was "why should I force myself to watch it if I don't like it to have an opinion?" Secondly, I cast doubt on that and doesn't really address it as a very valid as an issue right now. Since it is now babble. Thirdly I like many shows and characters that I don't always publicize. For example I love myself some comedies and romance genres. Me liking a character doesn't mean anything and you have a very shallow way of thinking if you genuinely believe this if u don't want to, then don't, seriously do u even need to ask. Plus i wasn't saying this to u, i was literally saying it to the guy who made this thread as most of his points will be cleared if u he finished it |
Jun 3, 2021 7:55 AM
#168
BruhMan_ said: PiyushSan said: Mods should probably lock this thread. Ikr, I mean no thread like this should exist for any anime. It's just gonna end up in fanboys and haters arguing over no particular reason. |
Jun 3, 2021 8:01 AM
#169
TakeruBestBoi said: TIL i like monogatari 🤔🤔🤔because they are pedophiles smh my head |
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Jun 3, 2021 8:08 AM
#170
| you just learned it now? lmao |
Jun 3, 2021 8:40 AM
#171
BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. It's just as said u don't like dialogue heavy shows, u mostly care about actions just as I saw in ur profile characters fav from MHA.Dragon ball, and the bore characters that u talk about(lmao can't stop laughing btw) are the archetype characters, and that is MONO is the first to reveal characters like that and anyway it's just pure hatred from ur heart can't do anything about it.. Please reread my state I believe I said I usually enjoy dialogue heavy shows. Plus what happened to feeling "arguing with someone who hasn't watched the show being pointless."? And yes I like the characters from the show. Doesn't mean anything unless you are implying Koyomi is the same as Goku or something. (they aren't) or that Monogatari series is the same as DBZ (which it isn't). The characters in Monogatari by and large have no charisma and not alot of impact to me and I can like both. There was a character or two I liked in Monogatari but I hadn't added them. (and now probably won't because it obviously drives fanboys such as you up the wall) And aside from your bad grammar which makes it difficult to decipher what you say I thinks it's silly that you can't even comprehend the most basic skills of conversation since you sincerely think you are the only person with an objective opinion and can argue that someone misinterpreted their own opinion. When really you can barely read. You are however a gleaming example of how I see the fanbase usually: narcissistic idiots. (Also you don't have to quote me twice to add on to your looney rant. You could just hit the edit button.) and i think we should move this any further, we have different taste, that's it. So we got along despite our different taste. and sorry if I hurted ur feelings Actually maybe if you stopped at that maybe but and I'm not suprised this went past your head you got pissy because *gasp* people didn't loke the show. So you went out of you way to try to decry all detractors as having illegitimate opinions and only yours showed be recognized and validated because you watched a cartoon show. Trust me you didn't "hurted" my feelings. Very worst I consider fanboy rants annoying. Yours is just silly and barely comprehensive. AH SHIT u got triggered, and i don't think ppl dislike this show lmao, the thread itself says "why do ppl like this show" smh, and u think 3 of the seasons of monogatari became top 50 in mal without any reason. Oh shit he said something triggered. Nah, just find you annoying and desperate. And ok you can be delusional. Some people have actually stated they don't like this show in this thread. You also lack understanding of what consensus gentium is. A show being popular isn't a universally held belief and also much like your grammer your argument is now inconsistent as well. Changing from "different tastes" to "nobody hates the show". But hey DBZ is one of the most popular shows of all time. So I guess that means it has no flaws by your logic. when tf i typed popularity is ranking. I said 3 seasons of monogatari is in top 50 of mal, and monogatari ain't popular as other popular shows. and ofc there are ppl who hates mono, I have seen tons of em, even one of my friends don't like it. I believe there are no shows in the world which doesn't get hatred. Which means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Okay it's popular? So what? What you said was "I don't think ppl dislike this show lmao" Now I can chalk this up to miscommunication but seriously it's hard to understand you. And how do you know if they watched through its entirety? What are their opinions on it? I mean I personally love to hear things people like about the show even if I disagree with it. However trying to have arbitrary quota in order to express an opinion is just plain rediculous and imagine how many people would watch something like "Boku no Pico" or "School Days" if they adhered to this standard. Or what if they liked it from the get go but didn't finish it? Are they allowed to express that opinion? |
Jun 3, 2021 8:53 AM
#172
PiyushSan said: BruhMan_ said: PiyushSan said: Mods should probably lock this thread. Ikr, I mean no thread like this should exist for any anime. It's just gonna end up in fanboys and haters arguing over no particular reason. Nah, obviously not. I mean there has been no arguments here and ever has been online. Anyway I'm usually happy to talk about things and argue on a online forum a place where people tend to discuss things online. Which I think we all agree is weird for the internet to have. I do however find some arguments generally toxic and mock worthy however and it's pretty sad when you can only see positive stuff of anything. That's a pretty demeaning stance if you can't tolerate negative opinions. |
Jun 3, 2021 8:56 AM
#173
Firebind2 said: PiyushSan said: BruhMan_ said: PiyushSan said: Mods should probably lock this thread. Ikr, I mean no thread like this should exist for any anime. It's just gonna end up in fanboys and haters arguing over no particular reason. Nah, obviously not. I mean there has been no arguments here and ever has been online. Anyway I'm usually happy to talk about things and argue on a online forum a place where people tend to discuss things online. Which I think we all agree is weird for the internet to have. I do however find some arguments generally toxic and mock worthy however. Um... What...? You two were just fighting over whether Bakemonogatari is good or not. |
Jun 3, 2021 9:04 AM
#174
PiyushSan said: Firebind2 said: PiyushSan said: BruhMan_ said: PiyushSan said: Mods should probably lock this thread. Ikr, I mean no thread like this should exist for any anime. It's just gonna end up in fanboys and haters arguing over no particular reason. Nah, obviously not. I mean there has been no arguments here and ever has been online. Anyway I'm usually happy to talk about things and argue on a online forum a place where people tend to discuss things online. Which I think we all agree is weird for the internet to have. I do however find some arguments generally toxic and mock worthy however. Um... What...? You two were just fighting over whether Bakemonogatari is good or not. Actually I was more aiming at "you have to watch the show in its entirety to have an opinion on it" and if "first impressions matter". Just kinda buried under digs and poor grammar. Setting aside that argument; I am enjoying the series a bit more from the canonical watch order whether then the chronological order. Quite a few characters bore me. They aren't very expressive or interesting in my opinion. Koyomi being the prime example. The show really isn't that bad in my opinion (has some things I dislike) but I had much higher expectations of the series considering its higher rating and devout following. And if people do like the show, more power to them and I personally like to hear things people enjoy about it...but...there is a big difference between liking a show and obsessing over it and vehemently defending it. |
Jun 3, 2021 9:08 AM
#175
BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: |BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. Dialogue heavy shows aren't just for u...Plus the confused timeline can't ruin an anime s stop with that, look at fate series smh that show also has one.. screaming fan boys, me, i just stated facts "don't state opinions without show" yesterday...And urs one is not just that u don't like it it's just pure hatred, so it's impossible convince u, And again stop with ur confused timeline as it doesn't ruin any show, go and watch fate series build some experience then talk..There is difference between screaming and stating facts... First of all. Yes a incoherent timeline can harm a show. Especially if it is dialogue or character heavy. Fate is actually a good example but I'd say it's more akin to Kingdom Hearts and I won't stop since it is a valid point despite your bitching. And you obviously don't know what an opinion is. You are stating an "opinion" as am I. Your "opinion" is not "facts". At least know you should know about Fate b4 you say anything about it. Nope, can still have an opinion on it and it can still be constructive. You obviously seem to underestimate the power of first impressions. Which BTW by the sounds of everything you haven't really challenged that. You are pretty much saying that I (and others) should continue to watch it. I mean I'm slowly rewatching it anyway (mostly because other fans who aren't obsessed with the show were encouraging, gave tips and thier own opinion and not shitty) but let me ask you specifically. Why? Why should anyone who doesn't like a show force themselves to endure the thing they aren't liking? So back to the first question huh? i can't help it if u don't like it. And the confusion of the timeline that u talk about will be cleared after the series. And from ur favs I can say that u like shounen characters, so maybe this isn't just for u. First of all that was never the question. It was "why should I force myself to watch it if I don't like it to have an opinion?" Secondly, I cast doubt on that and doesn't really address it as a very valid as an issue right now. Since it is now babble. Thirdly I like many shows and characters that I don't always publicize. For example I love myself some comedies and romance genres. Me liking a character doesn't mean anything and you have a very shallow way of thinking if you genuinely believe this if u don't want to, then don't, seriously do u even need to ask. Plus i wasn't saying this to u, i was literally saying it to the guy who made this thread as most of his points will be cleared if u he finished it And my point remains the same. "Why should he force himself to watch a show he clearly doesn't like." And I agree with some of his points too so inadvertently this opinion does apply to me. |
Jun 3, 2021 9:14 AM
#176
Firebind2 said: PiyushSan said: Firebind2 said: PiyushSan said: BruhMan_ said: PiyushSan said: Mods should probably lock this thread. Ikr, I mean no thread like this should exist for any anime. It's just gonna end up in fanboys and haters arguing over no particular reason. Nah, obviously not. I mean there has been no arguments here and ever has been online. Anyway I'm usually happy to talk about things and argue on a online forum a place where people tend to discuss things online. Which I think we all agree is weird for the internet to have. I do however find some arguments generally toxic and mock worthy however. Um... What...? You two were just fighting over whether Bakemonogatari is good or not. Actually I was more aiming at "you have to watch the show in its entirety to have an opinion on it" and if "first impressions matter". Just kinda buried under digs and poor grammar. Setting aside that argument; I am enjoying the series a bit more from the canonical watch order whether then the chronological order. Quite a few characters bore me. They aren't very expressive or interesting in my opinion. Koyomi being the prime example. The show really isn't that bad in my opinion (has some things I dislike) but I had much higher expectations of the series considering its higher rating and devout following. And if people do like the show, more power to them and I personally like to hear things people enjoy about it...but...there is a big difference between liking a show and obsessing over it and vehemently defending it. It's great that you liked the show. And if you encounter such toxic fans, just ignore them. |
Jun 3, 2021 9:21 AM
#177
PiyushSan said: Firebind2 said: PiyushSan said: Firebind2 said: PiyushSan said: BruhMan_ said: PiyushSan said: Mods should probably lock this thread. Ikr, I mean no thread like this should exist for any anime. It's just gonna end up in fanboys and haters arguing over no particular reason. Nah, obviously not. I mean there has been no arguments here and ever has been online. Anyway I'm usually happy to talk about things and argue on a online forum a place where people tend to discuss things online. Which I think we all agree is weird for the internet to have. I do however find some arguments generally toxic and mock worthy however. Um... What...? You two were just fighting over whether Bakemonogatari is good or not. Actually I was more aiming at "you have to watch the show in its entirety to have an opinion on it" and if "first impressions matter". Just kinda buried under digs and poor grammar. Setting aside that argument; I am enjoying the series a bit more from the canonical watch order whether then the chronological order. Quite a few characters bore me. They aren't very expressive or interesting in my opinion. Koyomi being the prime example. The show really isn't that bad in my opinion (has some things I dislike) but I had much higher expectations of the series considering its higher rating and devout following. And if people do like the show, more power to them and I personally like to hear things people enjoy about it...but...there is a big difference between liking a show and obsessing over it and vehemently defending it. It's great that you liked the show. And if you encounter such toxic fans, just ignore them. Yeah, but it's kinda ingrained in me probably my experience with GameFAQs but personally I enjoy challenging opinions and discussion really and in my defense I didn't start insulting him (although the argument has always been dumb to me) and he did say he was going to ignore me ao that should have been the end of it. I just also dislike toxic arguements and insults so it's kinda a sport for me. I usually block when I get bored. (Not exactly the nicest thing to do but I don't feel bad for people starting fights.) |
Jun 3, 2021 7:44 PM
#178
Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: |BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. Dialogue heavy shows aren't just for u...Plus the confused timeline can't ruin an anime s stop with that, look at fate series smh that show also has one.. screaming fan boys, me, i just stated facts "don't state opinions without show" yesterday...And urs one is not just that u don't like it it's just pure hatred, so it's impossible convince u, And again stop with ur confused timeline as it doesn't ruin any show, go and watch fate series build some experience then talk..There is difference between screaming and stating facts... First of all. Yes a incoherent timeline can harm a show. Especially if it is dialogue or character heavy. Fate is actually a good example but I'd say it's more akin to Kingdom Hearts and I won't stop since it is a valid point despite your bitching. And you obviously don't know what an opinion is. You are stating an "opinion" as am I. Your "opinion" is not "facts". At least know you should know about Fate b4 you say anything about it. Nope, can still have an opinion on it and it can still be constructive. You obviously seem to underestimate the power of first impressions. Which BTW by the sounds of everything you haven't really challenged that. You are pretty much saying that I (and others) should continue to watch it. I mean I'm slowly rewatching it anyway (mostly because other fans who aren't obsessed with the show were encouraging, gave tips and thier own opinion and not shitty) but let me ask you specifically. Why? Why should anyone who doesn't like a show force themselves to endure the thing they aren't liking? So back to the first question huh? i can't help it if u don't like it. And the confusion of the timeline that u talk about will be cleared after the series. And from ur favs I can say that u like shounen characters, so maybe this isn't just for u. First of all that was never the question. It was "why should I force myself to watch it if I don't like it to have an opinion?" Secondly, I cast doubt on that and doesn't really address it as a very valid as an issue right now. Since it is now babble. Thirdly I like many shows and characters that I don't always publicize. For example I love myself some comedies and romance genres. Me liking a character doesn't mean anything and you have a very shallow way of thinking if you genuinely believe this if u don't want to, then don't, seriously do u even need to ask. Plus i wasn't saying this to u, i was literally saying it to the guy who made this thread as most of his points will be cleared if u he finished it And my point remains the same. "Why should he force himself to watch a show he clearly doesn't like." And I agree with some of his points too so inadvertently this opinion does apply to me. Okay okay calm down pls.. Maybe u don't like it, okay so calm down, I can't do anything about. And I was saying that his points will be cleared of he watched the full series. #Ignored |
Jun 3, 2021 7:47 PM
#179
Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. It's just as said u don't like dialogue heavy shows, u mostly care about actions just as I saw in ur profile characters fav from MHA.Dragon ball, and the bore characters that u talk about(lmao can't stop laughing btw) are the archetype characters, and that is MONO is the first to reveal characters like that and anyway it's just pure hatred from ur heart can't do anything about it.. Please reread my state I believe I said I usually enjoy dialogue heavy shows. Plus what happened to feeling "arguing with someone who hasn't watched the show being pointless."? And yes I like the characters from the show. Doesn't mean anything unless you are implying Koyomi is the same as Goku or something. (they aren't) or that Monogatari series is the same as DBZ (which it isn't). The characters in Monogatari by and large have no charisma and not alot of impact to me and I can like both. There was a character or two I liked in Monogatari but I hadn't added them. (and now probably won't because it obviously drives fanboys such as you up the wall) And aside from your bad grammar which makes it difficult to decipher what you say I thinks it's silly that you can't even comprehend the most basic skills of conversation since you sincerely think you are the only person with an objective opinion and can argue that someone misinterpreted their own opinion. When really you can barely read. You are however a gleaming example of how I see the fanbase usually: narcissistic idiots. (Also you don't have to quote me twice to add on to your looney rant. You could just hit the edit button.) and i think we should move this any further, we have different taste, that's it. So we got along despite our different taste. and sorry if I hurted ur feelings Actually maybe if you stopped at that maybe but and I'm not suprised this went past your head you got pissy because *gasp* people didn't loke the show. So you went out of you way to try to decry all detractors as having illegitimate opinions and only yours showed be recognized and validated because you watched a cartoon show. Trust me you didn't "hurted" my feelings. Very worst I consider fanboy rants annoying. Yours is just silly and barely comprehensive. AH SHIT u got triggered, and i don't think ppl dislike this show lmao, the thread itself says "why do ppl like this show" smh, and u think 3 of the seasons of monogatari became top 50 in mal without any reason. Oh shit he said something triggered. Nah, just find you annoying and desperate. And ok you can be delusional. Some people have actually stated they don't like this show in this thread. You also lack understanding of what consensus gentium is. A show being popular isn't a universally held belief and also much like your grammer your argument is now inconsistent as well. Changing from "different tastes" to "nobody hates the show". But hey DBZ is one of the most popular shows of all time. So I guess that means it has no flaws by your logic. when tf i typed popularity is ranking. I said 3 seasons of monogatari is in top 50 of mal, and monogatari ain't popular as other popular shows. and ofc there are ppl who hates mono, I have seen tons of em, even one of my friends don't like it. I believe there are no shows in the world which doesn't get hatred. Which means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Okay it's popular? So what? What you said was "I don't think ppl dislike this show lmao" Now I can chalk this up to miscommunication but seriously it's hard to understand you. And how do you know if they watched through its entirety? What are their opinions on it? I mean I personally love to hear things people like about the show even if I disagree with it. However trying to have arbitrary quota in order to express an opinion is just plain rediculous and imagine how many people would watch something like "Boku no Pico" or "School Days" if they adhered to this standard. Or what if they liked it from the get go but didn't finish it? Are they allowed to express that opinion? I am not gonna talk anymore. #Ignored |
Jun 3, 2021 7:54 PM
#180
BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: |BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. Dialogue heavy shows aren't just for u...Plus the confused timeline can't ruin an anime s stop with that, look at fate series smh that show also has one.. screaming fan boys, me, i just stated facts "don't state opinions without show" yesterday...And urs one is not just that u don't like it it's just pure hatred, so it's impossible convince u, And again stop with ur confused timeline as it doesn't ruin any show, go and watch fate series build some experience then talk..There is difference between screaming and stating facts... First of all. Yes a incoherent timeline can harm a show. Especially if it is dialogue or character heavy. Fate is actually a good example but I'd say it's more akin to Kingdom Hearts and I won't stop since it is a valid point despite your bitching. And you obviously don't know what an opinion is. You are stating an "opinion" as am I. Your "opinion" is not "facts". At least know you should know about Fate b4 you say anything about it. Nope, can still have an opinion on it and it can still be constructive. You obviously seem to underestimate the power of first impressions. Which BTW by the sounds of everything you haven't really challenged that. You are pretty much saying that I (and others) should continue to watch it. I mean I'm slowly rewatching it anyway (mostly because other fans who aren't obsessed with the show were encouraging, gave tips and thier own opinion and not shitty) but let me ask you specifically. Why? Why should anyone who doesn't like a show force themselves to endure the thing they aren't liking? So back to the first question huh? i can't help it if u don't like it. And the confusion of the timeline that u talk about will be cleared after the series. And from ur favs I can say that u like shounen characters, so maybe this isn't just for u. First of all that was never the question. It was "why should I force myself to watch it if I don't like it to have an opinion?" Secondly, I cast doubt on that and doesn't really address it as a very valid as an issue right now. Since it is now babble. Thirdly I like many shows and characters that I don't always publicize. For example I love myself some comedies and romance genres. Me liking a character doesn't mean anything and you have a very shallow way of thinking if you genuinely believe this if u don't want to, then don't, seriously do u even need to ask. Plus i wasn't saying this to u, i was literally saying it to the guy who made this thread as most of his points will be cleared if u he finished it And my point remains the same. "Why should he force himself to watch a show he clearly doesn't like." And I agree with some of his points too so inadvertently this opinion does apply to me. Okay okay calm down pls.. Maybe u don't like it, okay so calm down, I can't do anything about. And I was saying that his points will be cleared of he watched the full series. #Ignored Don't know why you think I'm pissed. I think you have genuine brain damage since you can't even read much less spell. I just think your reasoning and opinion is toxic and counter productive and doesn't address any current issues and you can "help" by either changing your piss poor attitude, fixing your grammar and grow up or better yet just stay silent because you are an active hinderence towards discussion and a toxic fanboy. Anyway somehow I doubt you ignored me like you've been promising because you have been showing to be way too sensitive and lacking in self awareness to do that. Personally I couldn't give a damn either way. |
Firebind2Jun 3, 2021 7:58 PM
Jun 3, 2021 7:56 PM
#181
BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: LustKamisama said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Firebind2 said: BruhMan_ said: Maybe You should finish rest of the Series?? lmfao, then reconsider it.. All of ur pints is pointless if u watch the full show..XD Why would anyone stick around to something that leaves a bad first impression? Secondly still subjective and doesn't detract from the current opinion since issues like "pacing" and "bland characters" are something that is the fault of the show in the beginning for being disjointed and not presenting their characters in an interesting way. And seriously u didn't even finish Bakemonogatari, it's futile to argue with u, I thought u at least finished the whole series...An opinion without without knowing anything about it is PATHETIC.. Actually I've been re-watching the series somewhat starting with Kizumonogatari since that is supposedly the chronological start. Haven't gotten far for two reasons a busy schedule and that it feels like work. I didn't finish Bakemonogatari because it was a mess and leaves a bad first impression and that I actually haven't gotten back into it with my rewatch. (Something screeching fanboys such as yourself make it very unfun to do so BTW) To which no amount of additional screen time would fix a character and pacing issues retroactively. Something people like you don't ever seem to understand be it willingly or not. Anyway the only pathetic thing here is the amount of defending sad little man children will go to protect their favorite toy. So grow the fuck up bruh and get a life. It's simply a style you not used to as not all story narratives need to be linear. It shouldn't be watched in chronological order as the author intended to start with the messy timeline then slowing feeding bits and parts of the story. Another reason is its HEAVY dialogue series but it's the selling point of the series. If you have any history with Asian calligraphy, you could see the genius ways the author plays with certain kanjis. Seeing you just hate it with all your guts I don't think I could convince you otherwise. I just think coming in with standard narrative expectation would be easily put off with the amount of abnormality the series have. Sure but I think it's a step further when someone says they think the pacing is bad and another one gets pissy. It's a pretty bad mentality to have in my opinion. And while I enjoy me some dialogue heavy shows I see this more as pretentious and stupid really. Now this is a weird thing but at first yes, I didn't like the show but changing the watch order did eleviate some of my issues with the show. The characters still kinda bore me which makes it a bit of a struggle to watch but what really what I hate is the toxic and overly defensive fans that think they are smart because they enjoyed a cartoon series the series is just full of them. It's just as said u don't like dialogue heavy shows, u mostly care about actions just as I saw in ur profile characters fav from MHA.Dragon ball, and the bore characters that u talk about(lmao can't stop laughing btw) are the archetype characters, and that is MONO is the first to reveal characters like that and anyway it's just pure hatred from ur heart can't do anything about it.. Please reread my state I believe I said I usually enjoy dialogue heavy shows. Plus what happened to feeling "arguing with someone who hasn't watched the show being pointless."? And yes I like the characters from the show. Doesn't mean anything unless you are implying Koyomi is the same as Goku or something. (they aren't) or that Monogatari series is the same as DBZ (which it isn't). The characters in Monogatari by and large have no charisma and not alot of impact to me and I can like both. There was a character or two I liked in Monogatari but I hadn't added them. (and now probably won't because it obviously drives fanboys such as you up the wall) And aside from your bad grammar which makes it difficult to decipher what you say I thinks it's silly that you can't even comprehend the most basic skills of conversation since you sincerely think you are the only person with an objective opinion and can argue that someone misinterpreted their own opinion. When really you can barely read. You are however a gleaming example of how I see the fanbase usually: narcissistic idiots. (Also you don't have to quote me twice to add on to your looney rant. You could just hit the edit button.) and i think we should move this any further, we have different taste, that's it. So we got along despite our different taste. and sorry if I hurted ur feelings Actually maybe if you stopped at that maybe but and I'm not suprised this went past your head you got pissy because *gasp* people didn't loke the show. So you went out of you way to try to decry all detractors as having illegitimate opinions and only yours showed be recognized and validated because you watched a cartoon show. Trust me you didn't "hurted" my feelings. Very worst I consider fanboy rants annoying. Yours is just silly and barely comprehensive. AH SHIT u got triggered, and i don't think ppl dislike this show lmao, the thread itself says "why do ppl like this show" smh, and u think 3 of the seasons of monogatari became top 50 in mal without any reason. Oh shit he said something triggered. Nah, just find you annoying and desperate. And ok you can be delusional. Some people have actually stated they don't like this show in this thread. You also lack understanding of what consensus gentium is. A show being popular isn't a universally held belief and also much like your grammer your argument is now inconsistent as well. Changing from "different tastes" to "nobody hates the show". But hey DBZ is one of the most popular shows of all time. So I guess that means it has no flaws by your logic. when tf i typed popularity is ranking. I said 3 seasons of monogatari is in top 50 of mal, and monogatari ain't popular as other popular shows. and ofc there are ppl who hates mono, I have seen tons of em, even one of my friends don't like it. I believe there are no shows in the world which doesn't get hatred. Which means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Okay it's popular? So what? What you said was "I don't think ppl dislike this show lmao" Now I can chalk this up to miscommunication but seriously it's hard to understand you. And how do you know if they watched through its entirety? What are their opinions on it? I mean I personally love to hear things people like about the show even if I disagree with it. However trying to have arbitrary quota in order to express an opinion is just plain rediculous and imagine how many people would watch something like "Boku no Pico" or "School Days" if they adhered to this standard. Or what if they liked it from the get go but didn't finish it? Are they allowed to express that opinion? I am not gonna talk anymore. #Ignored Please, do it. Don't even have to advocate it. You can just slink back into your mother's basement. |
Jun 7, 2021 4:51 AM
#182
| It’s confusing and boring. The dialogue had me fall asleep. All the weird pop ups made me even more confused. I waited for the episode with Renai Circulation to play and dropped it afterwards. |
Jun 12, 2021 11:00 PM
#184
KushHaze said: A hot (supernatural) harem with no harem tag made by shaft with a lot of dialogue. Afcourse people will like this. Harem? 😂😂 Nice Joke kid |
Jun 18, 2021 1:04 AM
#185
| Bakemonogatari is full of foreshadowing and is mostly underexplained because it is set more towards the middle of the story and u won't appreciate it until u watch the other seasons and peice together the puzzle This is especially true with the characters who seem bland now until they blossom into some of the best written characters iv ever seen |
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Jul 10, 2021 9:24 PM
#186
| I turn off my brain when I watch anime since I only watch anime after really long hours of studying daily. Understandable why I couldn't get into this anime. Hope I can return to it someday to give it another go. |
Jul 10, 2021 9:40 PM
#187
gatssuu said: Okay, so I got Bakemonogatari on Blu-Ray as part of my Christmas gifts and after getting around to watching it a week ago and then finishing it earlier on today, I feel pretty disappointed. I was eager to get into the Monogatari series as I was an initial fan of what it had on offer (art style, voice acting, soundtrack, humour) but I feel incredibly underwhelmed by it's first instalment. Here were my main issues with the anime: - Horrible pacing - Not nearly enough time spent on developing side characters - Walls of text - Lack of actual and deep backstories - Terrible exposition used to explain important plot points - Only interesting arc in my opinion out of the five was the Snail arc, and even that dragged on - Anime has SAO Syndrome, bringing in new characters and forgetting them in an instant - Not enough insight into characters' motivations - All characters feel monotone as a result - No clear backstory regarding Koyomi - No clear backstory on anything, really - All of this keeps me from giving a shit about anything in the story - And finally the issue which irked me the most, male MC is an absolute Mary Sue cuck who gets the shit beaten out of him like five times in the course of the anime, and is an effective damsel, getting himself saved by either a small child or his girlfriend. This issue is compounded when the anime brings in a lesbo side character who effectively makes Koyomi her bitch. Absolute trash. The thing that sucks the most is that I don't think the anime was BAD, strictly speaking. It's art style, soundtrack, humour and voice actors helped to somewhat compensate the other galling issues on hand. Which makes me sad, as I think the anime could have been much better if not for the major inconveniences. My question is, do any of the issues mentioned above resolve themselves or improve gradually as the story progresses? I don't want to sit through Nisemonogatari and the other 12 continuations of the story if the entire fucking thing is like this. ok atleast half of your issues are addressed, pretty much every side character gets a ton of development and thats probably the main strength of the series, also Araragi does have a backstory and is most definitely not a Mary Sue. Also Araragi's way of fixing things by basically using his immortality is actually a very disfunctional way of going about trying to fix his issues and the story goes into that. I'm sure you heard Oshino say things like "the only person who can save you is yourself" and what not. Basically Bakemonogatari introduces a shit ton of characters and essentially puts bandaids on there problems without really fixing them(with the exception of senjyougahara). Also I feel like the way monogatari handled it's backstories was interesting and allowed the series to feel mature without ever relying on shock value, we could have had graphic scenes of Senjyougahara being assaulted, and Hanekawa being abused by her parents but I don't think they would have added that much. Monogatari is fundamentally a coming of age story where it's characters face supernatural manifestations of their various personal issues. |
Jul 13, 2021 3:23 AM
#188
gatssuu said: I have just started the series and tbh Its amazing from the get ago. You might not be the targeted audience. THe thing is its a dialouge heavy anime and pretty much character driven so yeah if u dont like loads of dialouge then this is definately not for uOkay, so I got Bakemonogatari on Blu-Ray as part of my Christmas gifts and after getting around to watching it a week ago and then finishing it earlier on today, I feel pretty disappointed. I was eager to get into the Monogatari series as I was an initial fan of what it had on offer (art style, voice acting, soundtrack, humour) but I feel incredibly underwhelmed by it's first instalment. Here were my main issues with the anime: - Horrible pacing - Not nearly enough time spent on developing side characters - Walls of text - Lack of actual and deep backstories - Terrible exposition used to explain important plot points - Only interesting arc in my opinion out of the five was the Snail arc, and even that dragged on - Anime has SAO Syndrome, bringing in new characters and forgetting them in an instant - Not enough insight into characters' motivations - All characters feel monotone as a result - No clear backstory regarding Koyomi - No clear backstory on anything, really - All of this keeps me from giving a shit about anything in the story - And finally the issue which irked me the most, male MC is an absolute Mary Sue cuck who gets the shit beaten out of him like five times in the course of the anime, and is an effective damsel, getting himself saved by either a small child or his girlfriend. This issue is compounded when the anime brings in a lesbo side character who effectively makes Koyomi her bitch. Absolute trash. The thing that sucks the most is that I don't think the anime was BAD, strictly speaking. It's art style, soundtrack, humour and voice actors helped to somewhat compensate the other galling issues on hand. Which makes me sad, as I think the anime could have been much better if not for the major inconveniences. My question is, do any of the issues mentioned above resolve themselves or improve gradually as the story progresses? I don't want to sit through Nisemonogatari and the other 12 continuations of the story if the entire fucking thing is like this. |
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Jul 16, 2021 4:32 PM
#189
| You don’t need a reason to like a show. Bakemonogatari is not for everyone, dude. Some Monogatari fans might say it’s because you have “bad taste” but I disagree, not every popular show will grab you, and that’s fine. It’s the same case for any anime, hell, I tried getting into MHA a while back but I dropped it before I even finished the first episode. Best advice I could give is to just accept it isn’t for you, it’s kind of a dialogue-heavy show from what I’ve seen, (I haven’t watched a ton of it so take that with a grain of salt) but maybe a show that’s a bit easier to swallow and understand is more your speed. |
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Jul 19, 2021 8:45 PM
#190
Tapertrain said: empatheticmess said: Okay, so I got Bakemonogatari on Blu-Ray as part of my Christmas gifts and after getting around to watching it a week ago and then finishing it earlier on today, I feel pretty disappointed. I was eager to get into the Monogatari series as I was an initial fan of what it had on offer (art style, voice acting, soundtrack, humour) but I feel incredibly underwhelmed by it's first instalment. Here were my main issues with the anime: - Horrible pacing - Not nearly enough time spent on developing side characters - Walls of text - Lack of actual and deep backstories - Terrible exposition used to explain important plot points - Only interesting arc in my opinion out of the five was the Snail arc, and even that dragged on - Anime has SAO Syndrome, bringing in new characters and forgetting them in an instant - Not enough insight into characters' motivations - All characters feel monotone as a result - No clear backstory regarding Koyomi - No clear backstory on anything, really - All of this keeps me from giving a shit about anything in the story - And finally the issue which irked me the most, male MC is an absolute Mary Sue cuck who gets the shit beaten out of him like five times in the course of the anime, and is an effective damsel, getting himself saved by either a small child or his girlfriend. This issue is compounded when the anime brings in a lesbo side character who effectively makes Koyomi her bitch. Absolute trash. - I personally though their was always something interesting happening in Monogatari. -Side characters are developed in later seasons - The characters are having interesting conversations and they all speak in a really eccentric ways. Monogatari is about people attempting to understand each other and themselves and they do this by having conversations. - More character backstory is filled in as the series progresses. Also if you don't think that Hitachi's back story was interesting then maybe this series isn't for you. - I don't know what you mean by horrible exposition. If you are referring to the whole thing about Koyomi being part vampire eventually their is a movie that explains everything. Remember that Monogatari is not chronological. the series only goes into detail on whats important in the moment. The main plot of Bakemonogatari was the romance between Hitagi and Koyomi. -If you liked Mayio as a character than you might want to watch all of the arcs where Koyomi and her go on crazy adventures. - All the characters are fleshed out in later seasons. - Well Hitagi and Koyomi are in love with each other. Koyomi wants to save cute girls because he really likes cute girls. Monogatari isn't' really a goal driven series. - eh i disagree - Okay you keep mentioning that things aren't given backstory but try to focus on whats happening in the moment instead. The series is not told in chronological order and it has a lot to unpack. Bakemonogatari sets up supernatural elements of the story, lt sets up the characters and their relationships. A couple actually starts dating and actually have a interment moment together. -I actually felt that he was mediocre character after just watching Bake but he becomes more developed as the series progresses .I don't see how he could be considered a Marry Sue though. Like you said he is weak and his character flaws are highlighted more as the series progresses .His girlfriend spoke at length about what she likes about him. That being his tendency to try to help people. Monogatari was challenge for me i had to watch analysis videos on YouTube as i went along. What channel(s) did ypu watch the analysis videos? |
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