TheFilthyCasual said: What makes a good character period? Write a character that feels like an actual human being. If they happen to be tsundere fine - but they need to be an actual person. Not just a tsundere. That behaviour should be a product of their character, not the other way around. That's speciest. What about characters that aren't human? |
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Feyfray said: Characters who aren't human have to act like humans anyway or the audience can't relate to them.TheFilthyCasual said: What makes a good character period? Write a character that feels like an actual human being. If they happen to be tsundere fine - but they need to be an actual person. Not just a tsundere. That behaviour should be a product of their character, not the other way around. That's speciest. What about characters that aren't human? |
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TheFilthyCasual said: Wise words, my friend. I totally agree.What makes a good character period? Write a character that feels like an actual human being. If they happen to be tsundere fine - but they need to be an actual person. Not just a tsundere. That behaviour should be a product of their character, not the other way around. |
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| The problem with the archetype is that it's completely blown out of proportion and makes the character entirely unrealistic to the point of just being annoying. The only way to make a good tsundere is to tone it down, bring some sort of realism to the character, and give it proper character development so that the audience can find some sort of way to relate to it. But the real issue is that you'll rarely, if not ever, see that happen in an anime because anime is a business and businesses like being mainstream and appealing to a target and limited audience. Read manga if you want to see a few decent tsunderes. Although there are tons of the typical tsundere in that medium, too. |
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| I love tsunderes, regardless of how unrealistic they are. There's always a shell to crack open. |
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IktIkn said: She was shown to be a tsundere at the beginning of the show, now she changes a lot. I have no idea what type of character she is.ScazoN said: If Dereban counts as a Tsundere then i fucking love tsunderes. Why would her count as one, though? Cutedere? |
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Holybaptiser said: Very true. But there are good tsundere characters in older anime.The problem with the archetype is that it's completely blown out of proportion and makes the character entirely unrealistic to the point of just being annoying. The only way to make a good tsundere is to tone it down, bring some sort of realism to the character, and give it proper character development so that the audience can find some sort of way to relate to it. But the real issue is that you'll rarely, if not ever, see that happen in an anime because anime is a business and businesses like being mainstream and appealing to a target and limited audience. Read manga if you want to see a few decent tsunderes. Although there are tons of the typical tsundere in that medium, too. |
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allflying said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: and FeMC (usually, in shoujo) always choose a guy who made her cry over a nice guy.Otakus are commonly M, I guess. They are just stupid as hell.. |
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Feyfray said: Well, then that means Dereban was a tsundere, her character developed throughout the whole series if you haven't noticed. From your example, Dereban was always playing aggressive and hostile to Taichi and now look where they are at the end, no longer a tsundere.ScazoN said: If Dereban counts as a Tsundere then i fucking love tsunderes. She isn't. In order to have a good tsundere, you need a massive amount of character development. Look at Taiga vs. shit tier Louise - Taiga grows up and by the end she isn't "tsundere" towards her friends / love. Louise? Louise will always be a cunt. |
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ScazoN said: Feyfray said: Well, then that means Dereban was a tsundere, her character developed throughout the whole series if you haven't noticed. From your example, Dereban was always playing aggressive and hostile to Taichi and now look where they are at the end, no longer a tsundere.She isn't. In order to have a good tsundere, you need a massive amount of character development. Look at Taiga vs. shit tier Louise - Taiga grows up and by the end she isn't "tsundere" towards her friends / love. Louise? Louise will always be a cunt. Yeah, I don't know about her actually. I see her as a tsundere, since she has some points. Like this hate feeling toward our main character, but she's actually really sweet with her feelings ect. And ofcourse that development. But at the same time she's not stereotypical. But.. I will call het one. ;) |
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| I also really hate tsunderes. Here's to our burning hate for those entitled badly-written little cunts! |
| Tsunderes are Fucking awesome! |
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| The girl and how gutsy the guy is |
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cupc said: A good tsundere is a character that isn't written from the basis the she has to be a tsundere. Rather, a good tsundere is a female character who ends up behaving like a typical tsundere would. Senjougahara from Bakemonogatari is a decent example of such a character. She has reasons to behave in such a way. I love tsunderes by the way. |
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| Tsunderes are the cogs that keep this abysmal world running. |
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| By having the Male equally abusive Even if not i a physical way then at the very least have him do stuff to her that deserve a bunch(Like Pranks) |
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| If at least she got nice body like Kaname Chidori |
| Trick question; there are no good tsunderes. |
| I thought i hated them, but lately, i've been falling head over heels for some tsunderes. |
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| One whose violence isn't ridiculously recurrent or all too harsh, and who isn't up front about his or her feelings. |
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| I don't really think it needs something. The character archetype is good enough, even if nothing is added. |
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| Well when a man a woman love each other they sometimes decide to make a child together...TLDR; a tsundere appears. |
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| It's hard to find a good side in a tsundere tbh. |
| An example of a Tsundere done right is Erika Sachikawa from School Rumble. The reason for this is that she did not begin as a Tsundere from the moment she showed up. It was quite a few episodes before she began to have feelings for Harima, as a matter of fact she barely took notice of him until that point. And after that, you can actually understand why she's being Tsundere, there are actual reasons why Erika - A rich girl raised in a high society living instilled with proper etiquette- wouldn't be able to bring herself to admit having feelings for a bottom-of-the-barrel delinquent like Harima. Above all though, I think the thing that would really just make a good Tsundere is not having 'Tsundere' be the ENTIRE description of their character. However they act towards the one they have a crush on, that attitude does NOT need to carry over into every aspect of their lives, there's no reason to have them be rude and unbecoming to EVERYONE around them. |
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| Hmm tsundere, lets see, the characters that are tsundere that I actually like is Itsuka Kotori from Date A Live, Mine from Akame ga Kill, Victorique de Blois from Gosick (well not full tsundere but okay tsundere), Kuroneko from Oreimo can almost be classified as tsundere. Seeing from these characters, I like something in common from them like they have a problems in their past or present and have to have someone else to let it out and finally they fall in love with the MC because MC supports her as a friend. Itsuka Kotori: Mine: Victorique de Blois: Kuroneko: Edit: I also have tsundere that I hate like Sakura from Naruto or Chitoge from Nisekoi or Yozora from Haganai beacuse they don't have good reason to be a tsundere and quite aggressive too. |
DarklordVorMay 17, 2015 2:57 PM
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| I don't know, I can't help but like Chitoge for example. She's cute. I rarely dislike tsunderes tbh |
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Nicoreos said: A justifiable tsun and a cute dere seals it for me. basically. when they are too over the top they really need a good backstory or something to explain or else they're just annoying when they arent over the top its understandable and they're ok |
yukishiromei said: Would this count?It's hard to find a good side in a tsundere tbh. |
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