| ^this Though I don't think we'll be getting a free servant this time. |
ShinsoPriest said: Canon my ass.ShadowfrostZen said: It might as well be canon at this point.One of the most overused memes that FGO has spawned and it was stale the day after it spawned. Also the new assassin looks like Ozzy with long hair. I can agree on this, though the head speculation is another chinese servant. |
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| No waifu, no rolling. Plus I'm broke from rolling in Valentines. Depends on how edgy good Bobmiya is I might consider. inb4 headless wolf rider is a waifu. |
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| There is something I noticed .. I have the same dress as Jalter in the video :o Pretty random Lol I'm also curious about the other announcement in the game : I hope there will be a rerun of the Gudaguda event, since I didn't play back then. Would be cool to have another Archer for Camelot since I read that it was possible to get Nobunaga for free |
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Nyarlathothep said: Nobunaga is the welfare, so yeah. You have to get 1 million Honnoji points though.There is something I noticed .. I have the same dress as Jalter in the video :o Pretty random Lol I'm also curious about the other announcement in the game : I hope there will be a rerun of the Gudaguda event, since I didn't play back then. Would be cool to have another Archer for Camelot since I read that it was possible to get Nobunaga for free |
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 Some stuff about EMIYA Alter https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/5vunn0/preview_of_emiya_alter/ and from FGO AR, this is what his card looks like |
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| 無銘(Mumei) is Extra Archer for what it's worth. As explained, it's a double pun on 無名(also read as Mumei) which is Nameless. So something like a branching from what Extra Archer would have been since it goes to say he's different from a 無銘 of society. |
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| Well, that much was easy enough to see, aside from the whole losing memory thing. How did this version come to existence, though, is what I'm most interested about. |
| From what I understood, for the new story it'll be best to use Evil Servants : I thought it was a new event, so I don't think I should care too much about it all since I'm still far behind :( |
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Nyarlathothep said: From what I understood, for the new story it'll be best to use Evil Servants : I thought it was a new event, so I don't think I should care too much about it all since I'm still far behind :( It's not an event, it's part 1.5 of the story. It won't open unless you've finished all of the story content so far, and it won't disappear after a set time. Don't worry. |
astroprogs said: Nyarlathothep said: From what I understood, for the new story it'll be best to use Evil Servants : I thought it was a new event, so I don't think I should care too much about it all since I'm still far behind :( It's not an event, it's part 1.5 of the story. It won't open unless you've finished all of the story content so far, and it won't disappear after a set time. Don't worry. I had begun some preparations for that then I saw "Conditions : Clear Babylon" Lol I'm just being impatient, particularly since I'm still not ready yet to face Gawain, and I want a new event already xD |
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Nyarlathothep said: astroprogs said: It's not an event, it's part 1.5 of the story. It won't open unless you've finished all of the story content so far, and it won't disappear after a set time. Don't worry. I had begun some preparations for that then I saw "Conditions : Clear Babylon" Lol I'm just being impatient, particularly since I'm still not ready yet to face Gawain, and I want a new event already xD I know the feeling. That's pretty much how i and every F2P felt in the first few events of the game too. BTW the condition is clearing Solomon, not Babylonia. I'm afraid it'll take a bit more time. |
| ^ F2P ? Sooooo ~ Here is the guy I can't beat : Ah, Gawain Lol |
NyarlathothepFeb 24, 2017 5:28 AM
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| Saber Alter's new NP: Love that hand switch. Nyarlathothep said: ^ F2P ? Free to play player. lol Gawain is actually pretty easy with the right party and CEs. His and Tristan's attacks fill your Servants' NP bars absurdly quickly due to the high number of attacks. |
astroprogsFeb 24, 2017 5:46 AM
| That look sick as fuck. Not really motivated to start this new arc. Maybe after I finished Extella. The Alters are looking fine.   |
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| Bravo, Takeuchi. Just hitting all the right notes with these two designs 10/10 |
| In the end: Moriaty, EMIYA Alter, Headless Horseman are great and then.. Yan Qing God, why do you suck? |
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| Nice. Looks like we get a grail for finishing Shinjuku. Also, love Moriarty's "Anti-Country" NP. ShadowfrostZen said: In the end: Moriaty, EMIYA Alter, Headless Horseman are great and then.. Yan Qing God, why do you suck? Because DW learned to never make another Jack. I fully expect all future Quick Servants to be Enkidu and Qing-tier until further notice. |
| The new archer is pretty cool. Not worth rolling for though. Really liking what they did with Saber Alter. Wish I could use her but she's only at NP1 and regular Saber is at NP3. |
astroprogs said: Except Enkidu is actually good in quick teams, miss me with that shit broBecause DW learned to never make another Jack. I fully expect all future Quick Servants to be Enkidu and Qing-tier until further notice. Yan Qing is literally worse than Stheno because she can do actual damage |
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| Moriarty has some of the most satisfying attacks in the game. Unfitting, but satisfying. |
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| EMIYA Alter's background: Of course, there must be a reason for a single person's life to change so much. The fall of the man's soul, who was once as strong as a sword, was due to a single woman who possessed a love befitting that of the Holy Mother. As the price to hunt down this demonic trait (referring to the woman, I think), many believers fell into that man's hands, and he martyred their lives, falling down the path of heresy Hmmm. The guys at BL are speculating this "woman who possessed a love befitting that of the Holy Mother" to be her. Damn, where's muh goddamn English CCC. ShadowfrostZen said: astroprogs said: Except Enkidu is actually good in quick teams, miss me with that shit broBecause DW learned to never make another Jack. I fully expect all future Quick Servants to be Enkidu and Qing-tier until further notice. Yan Qing is literally worse than Stheno because she can do actual damage He's meh at the very best. Atalanta is way more usable and useful than him. There's a reason the player base in both Japan and outside were pissed at how bad he was. |
astroprogsFeb 24, 2017 10:18 PM
astroprogs said: He's meh at the very best. Atalanta is way more usable and useful than him. There's a reason the player base in both Japan and outside were pissed at how bad he was. Whoa, hold on. Atalanta is nowhere near as good as Enkidu. Outside of her quick buff she's ass with damage output, star gen, and her shit NP gain makes her NP unreliable for getting stars. Did you even use Enkidu? He's like a slightly worse version of Jack in lancer form with a nice heal for survivability. |
ShinsoPriest said: astroprogs said: He's meh at the very best. Atalanta is way more usable and useful than him. There's a reason the player base in both Japan and outside were pissed at how bad he was. Whoa, hold on. Atalanta is nowhere near as good as Enkidu. Outside of her quick buff she's ass with damage output, star gen, and her shit NP gain makes her NP unreliable for getting stars. Did you even use Enkidu? He's like a slightly worse version of Jack in lancer form with a nice heal for survivability. I used him and remember not being that impressed TBH. After that i took a look at his skills and lost all interest in him. From my impression then, Atalanta at least supports her Quick team, while Enkidu seemed like dead weight and his damage wasn't impressive for a 5*. He's survivable via HP which isn't as good as having ,say, Dodge, and even that felt a little meaningless to me because he's not contributing well enough to remain on the field. His stargen is pretty good, yes, I'll give him that, and, in hindsight, i admit that i exaggerated in comparing him to Atalanta, but still. I don't think what he offers is enough to be a good 5*. Also, i don't think he's "a slightly worse version of Jack". Jack can not only generate an obscene amount of stars, her damage and survivability are much better than Enkidu's. We had bosses who can crit and one-shot your entire team. Dodge is almost always better than more HP or heal. I mean, Enkidu doesn't even have Taunt attached to his heal for it to matter that much in the bigger picture. Frostbite_ said: astroprogs said: Because DW learned to never make another Jack. I fully expect all future Quick Servants to be Enkidu and Qing-tier until further notice. What's wrong with Jack? Absolutely not a thing. I meant that as praise. |
astroprogsFeb 25, 2017 3:11 AM
astroprogs said: ShinsoPriest said: Whoa, hold on. Atalanta is nowhere near as good as Enkidu. Outside of her quick buff she's ass with damage output, star gen, and her shit NP gain makes her NP unreliable for getting stars. Did you even use Enkidu? He's like a slightly worse version of Jack in lancer form with a nice heal for survivability. I used him and remember not being that impressed TBH. After that i took a look at his skills and lost all interest in him. From my impression then, Atalanta at least supports her Quick team, while Enkidu seemed like dead weight and his damage wasn't impressive for a 5*. He's survivable via HP which isn't as good as having ,say, Dodge, and even that felt a little meaningless to me because he's not contributing well enough to remain on the field. His stargen is pretty good, yes, I'll give him that, and, in hindsight, i admit that i exaggerated in comparing him to Atalanta, but still. I don't think what he offers is enough to be a good 5*. Also, i don't think he's "a slightly worse version of Jack". Jack can not only generate an obscene amount of stars, her damage and survivability are much better than Enkidu's. We had bosses who can crit and one-shot your entire team. Dodge is almost always better than more HP or heal. I mean, Enkidu doesn't even have Taunt attached to his heal for it to matter that much in the bigger picture. Atalanta is always dead weight, her 1 turn quick buff is honestly overrated when it will only really be used when your whole team can use NP. Never use her. Use Drake instead. Enkidu has a decent skill set. A nice attack buff especially for brave chains when you happen to have the right cards buffed. A skill that removes enemy dodge which is really nice, and a great heal that's perfect for drawn out battles. His NP is single target which gives it decent damage. Not Scathatch levels but servicable. I'd grade him higher than Artoria Lancer. Dodge is a luxury and isn't necessary for most battles. The only enemy I've encountered that can one shot a 5* with a crit is Ibaraki, and that was almost a year ago. You'd be crazy to try to get lucky and avoid crits with dodge when it only works for 1 turn and has a cooldown afterwards. Defense buffs are much more helpful than dodge, especially for that Ibaraki fight. And if you're having trouble stalling a boss's NP at this point, you need serious help. Jack's value lies in her star gen, NP gain from said crits, being able to remove all enemy buffs, and has an amazing ST NP against females. Her damage outside of that is average as typical of assassins. Enkidu would deal a little more base damage as a lancer. Their skill sets are quite similar which is why I said Enkidu is a slightly worse Jack. Not sure why you would want taunt when that ruins the point of his heal. Anyways, Enkidu isn't the best 5* but he is no way in hell worse than Atalanta. Enkidu is a solid 5*, I've been using him for a while and am not disappointed. |
| These skills aren't really that good TBH. Dodge is a neccesity in the fights that count. "Most fights" are easy enough with any Servants anyway, so that's irrelevant. Defense vs Dodge is a topic for another day and it's not like it's relevant to Enkidu who has neither anyway. If Enkidu doesn't direct the attacks from the other Servants who can use his stars to his huge HP pool (w/ heal), there's little point in having it, he who has nothing else to shine at. Putting him beside the heavy hitters who can make good use of his stars is a disaster in my experience. His kit is really selfish. I wouldn't call him "solid" either, but i stopped using him after a few tries, so maybe you figured out a way to utilize his kit better. To me, Enkidu's kit is just frustratingly incomplete. A waste of potential. |
astroprogsFeb 25, 2017 4:54 AM
| They are decent. Compare servants who don't have an attack buff or dodge/heal, they're pretty trash. Fights that counts nowadays usually have bosses that bypasses dodge anyways lol. I dunno, I have Enkidu with Gil, and Artoria and get good results. And he lasts a long time cause he can heal to full HP. And he's one of the few that can remove enemy dodge which isn't exactly selfish when you have a bunch of NPs ready. I'd say that any servant is incomplete if they don't have at least these two things: A. Attack buff B. Heal/dodge C. NP gauge charge Enkidu has them so he passes. |
| Nah, the current fad is two life bars. Decent Servants are those who can clear the first bar with their NP and the second with the rest of a Brave Chain :p Removing Dodge would've been pretty good if it wasn't extremely conditional and limited due to the current nature of the game. Seriously, how many Archer bosses used Dodge in the entire-game? Also, it doesn't remove invincibility as well, making it even more limited. IMO Incomplete Servants are those who don't have the right elements to cover their niche. For example, Jeanne is currently incomplete because her kit (absurdly low NP gen and no internal way to cover the stun) is heavily dragging down what she's meant to do. Enkidu kinda reminds me of Jeanne in that regard. He needs a Taunt on his heal and make the heal for party while halving its effect and increasing its cooldown. His niche is generating stars for heavy hitters while living long enough for the others to use him, so make him accomplish that better. |
astroprogsFeb 25, 2017 6:06 AM
| When alternative skin??? Just end the arc and was bewitched by JAlter robe |
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astroprogs said: >No PvPHe's meh at the very best. Atalanta is way more usable and useful than him. There's a reason the player base in both Japan and outside were pissed at how bad he was. Reasons why people shouldn't care about gameplay, once again I find him useful to me, I'm not sure about y'all though. If he's better than Karna and Lancer Artoria(which I consider him to be in terms of damage output for NP) Unless you bribed me with money, there's no way you could make me say Enkidu is bad because every servant has a purpose in this game, there are no "bad" servants As much as I rip on Yan Qing(which i plan to try him out later today), I don't consider him ass terrible. Worse than Stheno yes, but not unusable.Never. |
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astroprogs said: Nah, the current fad is two life bars. Decent Servants are those who can clear the first bar with their NP and the second with the rest of a Brave Chain :p I guess that makes all servants useless as the second life bar doesn't appear till the beginning of the next round, lol. |
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| And Astro's memery just got shattered by even more memes. |
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ShadowfrostZen said: astroprogs said: >No PvPHe's meh at the very best. Atalanta is way more usable and useful than him. There's a reason the player base in both Japan and outside were pissed at how bad he was. Reasons why people shouldn't care about gameplay, once again I find him useful to me, I'm not sure about y'all though. If he's better than Karna and Lancer Artoria(which I consider him to be in terms of damage output for NP) Unless you bribed me with money, there's no way you could make me say Enkidu is bad because every servant has a purpose in this game, there are no "bad" servants As much as I rip on Yan Qing(which i plan to try him out later today), I don't consider him ass terrible. Worse than Stheno yes, but not unusable. PM'ing bank account details ATM. lol Seriously though, nothing of this matters since the game was made with people using their waifu/husbando favourite characters in mind, so yeah, i don't disagree there. I'm purely looking at it from this perspective because it's an interesting one. mira-pyon said: astroprogs said: Nah, the current fad is two life bars. Decent Servants are those who can clear the first bar with their NP and the second with the rest of a Brave Chain :p I guess that makes all servants useless as the second life bar doesn't appear till the beginning of the next round, lol. Is this what happens with you? lol Get gud, scrub! ShadowfrostZen said: And Astro's memery just got shattered by even more memes. HAH! Just because you're correct, doesn't mean yo- wait, who and where am i? |
astroprogsFeb 25, 2017 7:46 AM
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astroprogs said: That is why im asking to sehai kun to release alternative skins   Also,  |
| bruh |
| Seihai-kun isn't gonna answer your prayers. You don't deserve them. |
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| I predict you'll get a single alternate skin by paying for 3000 quartz and getting it as a bonus. Bonus quartz don't count. Enkidu does good damage with NP Brave chain unlike Atalanta, Artoria Lancer, or Karna but I'll leave it at that. |
astroprogs said: -snip- PLUS! Caval II  A lion, horse, penguin and now a dog... Artoria's animal harem groweth. |
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| The dog has relevance From Reddit: A white dog appears after you met Saber Alter, it's name Cavall the 2nd. Why second? King Arthur had pet dog before, also share name with white dog too. Cavall was Arthur's buddy when they're hunting boar, Twrch Trwyth. There's more relevance.. but that's spoilers |
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| Shinjuku sure is difficult. Multiple Lives enemy really is a pain in the ass. Hah, imagine if they got 2 or more lives. The horror. |
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| i cleared all final stage mostly with tituria alter and tamamo lancer. but the real asspain are that damn wolf. Once with 1hit evade (wasnt prepare for this shit. And didnt wanted to use turtle shell to finish it the 3rd time |
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KaiserNazrin said: guess you're gonna be terrified when you fight the final bossShinjuku sure is difficult. Multiple Lives enemy really is a pain in the ass. Hah, imagine if they got 2 or more lives. The horror. |
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| I'm at the second Doge fight, and i agree that the new gimmick is huge pain. What ticked me off isn't the multiple life bars or the total debuff cleansing, it's the goddamn NP reset. I managed to win eventually without having to replace any of my evil Servants, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to keep using the same party on future fights. |
| I just beat the final boss. It's dumb, but nothing a single quartz can't fix. Total revives for this chapter: 3 |
| I hate that fucking dog. The 3rd and 4th fight with him was frustrating. I used all my CS in the 3rd and hard to repeat the 4th 3 times before fielding Waver, bond CE Herc and getting a support Merlin. Been using story supports all the time along with Evil Servants. Managed to get Jeanne Alter to bond 8 and Kiyohime's bond CE from all those bond points. Story is decent this time. This is definitely Sakurai with all the long-winded explanations and somewhat little action. The character interactions are pretty fun though, especially the Alters. Moriarty isn't half bad as well(heh). He throws a joke or two after being with the team for a while. Best part is definitely the crossdressing and the Alters ordering a Chaldea staff to upload the picture in the servers. I feel this works when it's the male master. Good thing I'm not rolling because I might have burned the dog(I won't) if I got him due to my frustration at his fights. I'd like to roll for Moriarty for his SUBARASHII but I'm not feeling that lucky especially after my rolls in SAO MD. |
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| Chapter wasn't that bad for me, only ended up burning one command seal and no quartz revive, it was pretty fun though. |
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| The final battle was surprisingly easy. Support Scat along with my Waver and Enkidu make short work of them. |
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