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Sep 21, 2016 9:08 PM

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I'm surprised you haven't maxed out every 5* by now.
Sep 21, 2016 9:23 PM

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Most are. I'm holding out on Rider and Assassin atm cuz I believe there will be better heroic spirits that'll make me Doki Doki hard. I pretty much accepted that Waver is THE definitive Caster so I only recently decided to max his skill set. (I have Helena and Illya as backup)
Sep 21, 2016 11:09 PM

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Genkii said:
Friendly reminder to everyone to put your Increase Bond Point CEs on your Zerkers(prefered)/Avengers/Rulers in the [ALL] support slot. People are farming bones and BP.


Did that on ibaraki and maxed her third skill. Need to farm more void refuses.

I was farming bond points in fuyuki few hours ago and everyone from my friendlist had bond CE, it felt good.

I was hoping for the 1/2 ap to work on dailies... I wanted to farm exp cards for medea lily and tristan.
Sep 21, 2016 11:13 PM

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I preferred your Ibaraki over all the other supports. So expect a lot of friend points from me. :D
Sep 21, 2016 11:18 PM

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So for those farming BP, how will you go about doing it?
Farming 10 AP Camelot quests or farming 1AP Fuyuki quests for 125 BP a pop? Are any if you insane enough to go the Fuyuki route to max your servant bonds?
Sep 21, 2016 11:32 PM

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I'm farming Fuyuki G for the bones. My supplies are very low on them. 515bp per 7ap. Once I'm satisfied I'm going back to Camelot.
Sep 21, 2016 11:43 PM
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Bond maxing is the devil, shits just ridiculously high af
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Sep 22, 2016 11:33 AM

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Genkii said:
I preferred your Ibaraki over all the other supports. So expect a lot of friend points from me. :D


Sweet! I need to roll mangra at least once before I die xD

ShinsoPriest said:
So for those farming BP, how will you go about doing it?
Farming 10 AP Camelot quests or farming 1AP Fuyuki quests for 125 BP a pop? Are any if you insane enough to go the Fuyuki route to max your servant bonds?


I say fuyuki. You get more in the long run. You'll get the most out of it but it's tiring xD

Camelot; 970 * 12 = 11,640

Fuyuki; 125 * 139 = 17,375
Sep 22, 2016 2:13 PM
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Can't say I agree with every placement.
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Sep 22, 2016 2:58 PM

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You know shit is wrong when Tesla, Nightingale and Orion are placed above the people who are supposedly in '7 and 6.5'(tho Mebd and Amakuso are universally crap). That said, one shouldn't expect much from a list which actually has '10' as a score, when no servant really warrants such a high score(apart from maybe Waver-kun - he's literally the epitome of support).
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Poor Jeanne keeps dropping, but lets face it F/GO is turning into an offensive game, tanks aren't useful on the fronts lines. Also a lot of disrespect towards AOE servants, but the guy who makes this list is biased towards single target NP users, which makes sense considering we're getting more raids and harder bosses, but AOE can be just as important too IMO.
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-Mahesvara said:
Poor Jeanne keeps dropping, but lets face it F/GO is turning into an offensive game, tanks aren't useful on the fronts lines. Also a lot of disrespect towards AOE servants, but the guy who makes this list is biased towards single target NP users, which makes sense considering we're getting more raids and harder bosses, but AOE can be just as important too IMO.
I agree. AOE is just as important when you consider the whole picture. I mean, there are quests with multiple not-so-easy mobs where an AOE buster comes handy. Also I don't think Vlad is better than Altera
Sep 22, 2016 5:10 PM
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bakari said:
-Mahesvara said:
Poor Jeanne keeps dropping, but lets face it F/GO is turning into an offensive game, tanks aren't useful on the fronts lines. Also a lot of disrespect towards AOE servants, but the guy who makes this list is biased towards single target NP users, which makes sense considering we're getting more raids and harder bosses, but AOE can be just as important too IMO.
I agree. AOE is just as important when you consider the whole picture. I mean, there are quests with multiple not-so-easy mobs where an AOE buster comes handy. Also I don't think Vlad is better than Altera
Definetly, thats why i never take this guys list to heart. Though i understand his reasoning and criteria, i don't agree with it entirely. People need to realize that this list isn't a full proof 100% correct assessment.
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Sep 22, 2016 5:57 PM

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bakari said:
I agree. AOE is just as important

Ditto. Most of the time I just take Arturia over Nero Bride/Okita because her AOE wipes a boss' mob and deal tremendous damage with a follow up brave chain with crits prepared (if favorable at times, kills said boss also).

Second on the Jeanne buff too... would be a pain if they one day gave us a Saber version of her because of this lol.
Sep 22, 2016 7:08 PM
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Can't say I agree with every placement.
Ahh tier lists
The things I don't care about
Sep 22, 2016 7:25 PM

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-Mahesvara said:
Poor Jeanne keeps dropping, but lets face it F/GO is turning into an offensive game, tanks aren't useful on the fronts lines. Also a lot of disrespect towards AOE servants, but the guy who makes this list is biased towards single target NP users, which makes sense considering we're getting more raids and harder bosses, but AOE can be just as important too IMO.


Well ST is more important in raids than AoE but I've used AoE more than ST in the ibaraki event the things besides her were fucking annoying. This list is not 100% ''facts'' but it's nice to see why, whoever is making this list, got into that conclusion.

Jeanne will be a 7 by the end of the year because jeanne just doesn't shine as much as when you started playing FGO and people focus more on raw damage than tankers besides d'eon, st george, mashu, etc.

In other news, Ibaraki is officially 10/10/10, feelsgoodman.

Sep 22, 2016 7:26 PM

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Ahh but they are a good indicator of what's crap. Like Medb and Shirou.
Sep 22, 2016 7:29 PM

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Shirou needs some work.

>NP interlude
>Buff or change those skills
>Change the effect of his special CE

I find medb very fun to use. I'll give her that. It's very awkward for a berserker to be a medea lily.
Sep 22, 2016 8:00 PM
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Umineko said:
I find medb very fun to use.
I like to use da vinci for fun in easy quests. Too bad there's so many good casters to replace her.

Edit: Remember how i didn't have a gold lancer? Well...
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Genkii said:
Ahh but they are a good indicator of what's crap. Like Medb and Shirou.
hey man fuck you i use amakusa

and like him, am utter shit
bakari said:
Umineko said:
I find medb very fun to use.
I like to use da vinci for fun in easy quests. Too bad there's so many good casters to replace her.

Edit: Remember how i didn't have a gold lancer? Well...
niiiiiiiiiiiice
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Tried and failed to get Ozy, maybe you'll come to me one day my king of kings.
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Sep 24, 2016 12:23 PM

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Gen, is that you?

Sep 24, 2016 2:52 PM

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ShinsoPriest said:
Gen, is that you?

i would kill to get a 5th copy of kaleidoscope
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Sep 24, 2016 3:03 PM

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kei78 said:
ShinsoPriest said:
Gen, is that you?

i would kill to get a 5th copy of kaleidoscope


I'd kill to get a 2nd Kaleidoscope.
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Sep 24, 2016 3:28 PM
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I'd kill for one kaleidoscope...
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Sep 24, 2016 4:45 PM

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I'd kill to have a cute android maid with a Saberface.
Sep 24, 2016 4:49 PM

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I'd kill to get a certain True Ancestor.
Sep 24, 2016 7:40 PM

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I'd kill for Jeanne's panties.

Sep 24, 2016 7:48 PM

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Gen, is that you?

Sep 25, 2016 12:23 AM

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I'd kill for Jeanne's panties.
Jeanne is droping in the unit rating. Eventually her pantied will drop
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Sep 25, 2016 12:35 AM

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kei78 said:
KaiserNazrin said:
I'd kill for Jeanne's panties.
Jeanne is droping in the unit rating. Eventually her pantied will drop


The game is easy as shit, I dunno why people care about rating when you can clear everything with just silver and bronze servants.

Sep 25, 2016 12:44 AM

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KaiserNazrin said:
kei78 said:
Jeanne is droping in the unit rating. Eventually her pantied will drop


The game is easy as shit, I dunno why people care about rating when you can clear everything with just silver and bronze servants.

Becuse why finish a fight in 10-15 turns with a good strategy when you can finish it in 3 mindless turns.
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KaiserNazrin said:
kei78 said:
Jeanne is droping in the unit rating. Eventually her pantied will drop


The game is easy as shit, I dunno why people care about rating when you can clear everything with just silver and bronze servants.


Therefore, you have no right to complain when you don't get a really good gold servant. :)
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Sep 25, 2016 1:49 AM
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mira-pyon said:
Therefore, you have no right to complain when you don't get a really good gold servant. :)
Almost like people play it for the gameplay :)
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mira-pyon said:
KaiserNazrin said:


The game is easy as shit, I dunno why people care about rating when you can clear everything with just silver and bronze servants.


Therefore, you have no right to complain when you don't get a really good gold servant. :)


By rating I meant how someone people will rank a servant in ranking. Some servant being 10 while others being 6 and shit.

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bakari said:
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Therefore, you have no right to complain when you don't get a really good gold servant. :)
Almost like people play it for the gameplay :)


I'm not sure if this is supposed to mean that people play it for the waifus, or that people play it for the actual gameplay.

If it's for the waifus, there's a reason I put 'really good gold', rather than waifu. If it's the latter, literally read the earlier post. Correct me if I'm wrong. Pls no sarcasm.

KaiserNazrin said:
mira-pyon said:


Therefore, you have no right to complain when you don't get a really good gold servant. :)


By rating I meant how someone people will rank a servant in ranking. Some servant being 10 while others being 6 and shit.


You mentioned 'silver and bronze' so the only real conclusion would've been that you think silver and bronze servants are low in ranking in comparison to golds. I thought you were saying that the game can be cleared easily regardless of having gold servants or not, so, imo, there's no real point in complaining if you don't get a 10/10 servant because it's not like it'll make things any harder. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.
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mira-pyon said:
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Almost like people play it for the gameplay :)


I'm not sure if this is supposed to mean that people play it for the waifus, or that people play it for the actual gameplay.

If it's for the waifus, there's a reason I put 'really good gold', rather than waifu. If it's the latter, literally read the earlier post. Correct me if I'm wrong. Pls no sarcasm.
Waifus.
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I had do some whaling, but it was worth it.


My bad luck with rolling Casters has finally faded a bit.
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Sep 25, 2016 6:45 PM

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Grats on getting her. May her NP bring you many joy and satisfaction of slamming your foes into mountains.

Question. Which of these two CE would be more valued on Waver from a friend support point of view?

Relic of a king: When equipped to Zhuge Liang (Caster) only. Increase Buster Card performance of all allies by 15% while on the field

Or

Piece of Year 2030: [Max Limit] Receive 10 critical stars each turn
Sep 25, 2016 6:55 PM
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Genkii said:
Grats on getting her. May her NP bring you many joy and satisfaction of slamming your foes into mountains.

Question. Which of these two CE would be more valued on Waver from a friend support point of view?

Relic of a king: When equipped to Zhuge Liang (Caster) only. Increase Buster Card performance of all allies by 15% while on the field

Or

Piece of Year 2030: [Max Limit] Receive 10 critical stars each turn


Thanks, working on leveling her up right now ^_^


Hmm, hard to say, it really depends on the team composition. For me I would go with Relic of the King, since a lot of people are prolly running buster teams for farming during this downtime we have till the next event.
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Genkii said:
Grats on getting her. May her NP bring you many joy and satisfaction of slamming your foes into mountains.

Question. Which of these two CE would be more valued on Waver from a friend support point of view?

Relic of a king: When equipped to Zhuge Liang (Caster) only. Increase Buster Card performance of all allies by 15% while on the field

Or

Piece of Year 2030: [Max Limit] Receive 10 critical stars each turn


I think 10 extra crit stars is more valuable than a buster buff. Even more so on a support servant like Waver.
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Rolled in the caster gacha and finally got myself a Tamamo. She was one of the only SSRs left that I still wanted. I'm pretty satisfied with my servant list now.

Genkii said:
Grats on getting her. May her NP bring you many joy and satisfaction of slamming your foes into mountains.

Question. Which of these two CE would be more valued on Waver from a friend support point of view?

Relic of a king: When equipped to Zhuge Liang (Caster) only. Increase Buster Card performance of all allies by 15% while on the field

Or

Piece of Year 2030: [Max Limit] Receive 10 critical stars each turn

Crit stars are really nice, but then again, why get a max bond CE and not show it off?
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Out of QP... oh man things haven't been the same since grail ascensions came about.
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Out of qp too
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Sep 25, 2016 10:52 PM

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Genkii said:
Grats on getting her. May her NP bring you many joy and satisfaction of slamming your foes into mountains.

Question. Which of these two CE would be more valued on Waver from a friend support point of view?

Relic of a king: When equipped to Zhuge Liang (Caster) only. Increase Buster Card performance of all allies by 15% while on the field

Or

Piece of Year 2030: [Max Limit] Receive 10 critical stars each turn


Crits. It'd work great for all three card types, rather than simply focus on one. Like, someone with a Buster team would appreciate it because critting busters are great (and tend to finish most of my battles); critting arts add more to the NP bar than normal arts; critting quicks make great crit-generators and are so damn satisfying to watch.

It's a win-win-win.

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Out of qp too



I feel your pain.
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Yeah I thought so, I had my doubts and had to ask. Well, that was a bit of a waste farming for the Relic of a King. But as Sherou said earlier, it'll be nice to show it off from time to time. Thanks for the opinions guys.

I'm also farming both Nero Bride and Jack's CE. Nero Bride's Laurel Rings is good no doubt about that but how about Jacks?

[Misty Night of London] : When equipped to Jack the Ripper (Assassin) only, increase critical damage of all allies by 25% while on the field. Will it be desired over Limit break Imaginary Around, Kaleidoscope, 50% NP ready CEs etc for friend support?
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For jack: no

Only personal Ce would be good for alliés are art boost and Mhx one for trolling.

More crit dmg could be à problème if you cannot crit (E rank luck)
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kei78 said:

More crit dmg could be à problème if you cannot crit (E rank luck)

But Jack has no problems generating you 30-50 stars per turn no? Especially on a team with Okita and such.
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But what if E rank luck Dt let you use jack?
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CE suggestions for Sanzou?
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