Vinland Saga
| two words: character development. but of course you don't know about that; you watch one piece after all. |
| You're out of your mind |
| From you pfp is quiet easy to understand most luffy fans are as smart as luffy(not all though). But i wanna help you to enjoy the show, so i’m gonna give you something you obviously need.  |
| One piss boy detected, opinion rejected. |
| The Farmland Arc is a crucial plot point for Thorfinn. I've seen many people saying it's a disappointment due to the lack of action or Askeladd. |
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| it's like 10 times better than season 1 |
| this season really separates the kids from real men |
Enigma98111 said: the meatriding is craaaaazyyyyy, go lick this one piss boy's shoes and meatride him more27thEiffel said: this season really separates the kids from real men Yes, all these 'real men' crying that someone doesnt like s2. Dont get me wrong, I like s2 but it doesnt seperate anyone from anyone. Its just a taste thing. |
Enigma98111 said: sorry, can't hear you over the sound of your ass clapping to one piss boy's glock27thEiffel said: the meatriding is craaaaazyyyyy, go lick this one piss boy's shoes and meatride him more A 'real' mans response. 😂😂 |
| I am just glad VInland Saga 2 is gonna filter out this types of people, Then the Majority of the remainers will be the ones who likes VInland Saga for what is is, Its A solid drama that explains and explores the ideology of passifism.. |
TaifSuxApr 11, 2023 3:38 AM
| I came back and what the heck is going on here 😭. This ain't a civil discussion no more |
I love Monogatari Series |
kasai_koumori said: what's the point of vinland saga? care to explain?if you dont like the second season then you don’t understand the point of Vinland Saga |
| Bro I don't even care if you don't like it or not but anyone I ever see use "Mid(Insert rest of name of anime here)" opinions can go die in a fire even if you have your reasons (I do disagree with them but they are yours, mid(something something) is just a fucking annoying insult at this point even with shows I dislike it just feels so annoying) |
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| Yup. Thorfinn's character growth was too heavy a load to carry for Yukimura's pen. Instead of opting for an empathetic approach to the main-character's recovery, his wide range of struggles were diluted to the theme of guilt, and nothing beyond that. The writer completely skips over the fact that Thorfinn is a humiliated, traumatized and grief-struck soul who has spent 10 years of his life on the battlefield in order to satisfy a quest for vengeance which failed as miserably as any quest ever managed to do. Nope, it all comes down to "guilt", which is an unearned theme at that, because we've never seen Thorfinn kill an innocent character—ever. The story's themes decide what Thorfinn's growth should look like, as he himself shows very little agency or personal perspective regarding his own life, and to top it off: Yukimura decides that it's a good idea to have Thorfinn cop out of his suffering by making him have a dream which treats his wide range of issues as impersonally as possible, giving the main-character a 180 degree shift in personality, without exploring his humiliation, grief and failed quest for vengeance. Thorfinn has never been more than a mere thematic device instead of an actual character, but it only became clear when Yukimura cheated himself out of a much needed realistic portrayal of Thorfinn's suffering, by making other characters (as well as dreams) do the work for him. Then comes the tenth episode, and the story yet again skips over the main-character's growth by giving us a three year timeskip, and Thorfinn is now as happy as a person can be, which further points us to Yukimura's cowardly refusal to portray Thorfinn's character development with empathy, personal perspective and agency. Thorfinn's growth is nothing compared to his father's decision to flee from violence by faking his own death, upon realizing how much human life is actually worth, after having a child with the woman he loves. The impersonal, preachy, unearned and overly selfish bickering about "guilt" falls completely flat when we position it against Thors' methodology and perspectives. Vinland Saga Season 2 sucks, and its pacing or lack of action is the absolute least of its problems. |
| @Sagenaker11 Reiner fed his innocent friend to a titan, and caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Don’t make the mistake anymore to compare his guilt with Thorfinn’s. Also: This is about Vinland Saga, so stay on topic please. As for your points: - We have never seen Thorfinn kill an innocent person, and the dream sequence kept the identity of his victims (as well as the direction of his guilt) abstract. - Episode 10 shows Thorfinn in a very happy state. - The empathy that I talk about isn’t Thorfinn’s, but rather Yukimura’s empathetic capability (or in this case, his lack thereof) to portray Thorfinn as a human being with nuanced, personal perspectives on his wide range of life experiences—instead of a mere thematic device who does what the story’s themes demand from him. |
| irrelevant to the plot 💀 forced drama 💀 💀 💀 💀 |
| The sad thing is, I refuse to feel "proud" for understanding S2 is an objectively great written story. That's the bare minimum to prove I'm a person that appreciates character writing, specially because the show still has considerable amount of action to make people have their "popcorn fun" from time to time. Also, the Biron dude was widely known in the SNK community for projecting his false interpretations of the story in his arguments, twisting the real meaning of certain events and unfairly criticising the show. His points seemingly being good written are ultimately very a-like to flat-earther believers, where they actually seem to have solid arguments if you don't know science. The same way we shouldn't entertain flat earthers, I wouldn't really entertain him with attention. |
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| @Sagenaker11 You are a combination of someone who enjoys trolling, while somehow also aiming for a serious discussion, but with very subpar reading skills. I wish you good luck trolling other people, but I will refrain from discussing with you any further. As described by @BetterTaste, I’m the anime fandom equivalent of a flat earther, so it is best to just ignore everything I’ve said so far. Worst case scenario, I’ll end up ruining your favorite show if you give my thoughts too much attention. |
| I think to like season 2 you have to like character studies because that's what this is. Since I like historical fiction and exploring characters I'm having a great time with it though sometimes the plot points are a bit much |
| yess , season 2 is bored.. FarmLand Saga . . |
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