The controversy regarding the ending

RobertBobert said:


It's just that these people are obsessed with yuri as a fetish and basically only watch yuri. And since real yuri anime is pretty scarce, they start fighting for any all-female show or female side characters to justify watching it in their eyes. Read old discussions about shows like Hibike Euphonium. On this show, such trends reached their peak.

TomboyTamer said:

Wow that's crazy. Welp, another day of thanking God for not making me a yuri fans.

RobertBobert said:


As long as they haven't officially announced any sequel, the story is done. There is a chance for a continuation, but it is rather naive to immediately announce this as a fact.

Divesard said:


Anime season 1 has ended and its continuation is not yet confirmed indeed, but in this discussion x ends up with x are discussed and AFAIK the ending (whice one chisato really ends up) has not fixed in stone yet. The Takina and Chisato ship is currently still sailing, not yet anchored/reached its final destination. Thus it is not-so wise to conclude that ship has sailed or done 100%. Rather than concluding it is already done/completed, not completed or on hold is the most fitting term. That's why I suggest OP to ignore both of that 2 ideas generated by those people. Because they are incorrect.

RobertBobert said:


This is pure speculation, no matter how much you believe in your assumptions. Many shows ended at an open or semi-open end, this is called a sequel hook. You can speculate all you want, but it's best not to pass it off as fact until they actually make some kind of announcement (also don't fall into magical thinking and call this anime "the first season", thinking that it will make the expectations of the second more real). And OP mentioned a certain controversy, didn't comment on the ending itself in any way.

Divesard said:


I have focused on the story aspect and yet you still spiting this sequel hook fact thing where I didn't even state that there will be season 2 anime on my replies. From what I see, you just speculated that I put a big hope/assume that there will be season 2, which of course is not my main point.

My point is the story is not yet ended, it still has not reached final conclusion. If I use an analogy to make it easier to understand my point, then the completed story is like a fine baked bread. Of course, the next process of baking the dough which is the sequel is not certain to be happening in the future but that is not my main attention. I just stated that this half baked dough is not yet a fine bread. Why I can say that it is not a fine bread/completed story yet? because it has many unsolved main plot hole and conflicts and we can't take the final conclusion of the story yet. If you can conclude the final conclusion of the story, then you sure can answer which of those controversy speculations will be happened, no? The next baking process (the sequel) will not happen? Then I would still call this dough a half baked dough, not a completed bread no matter what the future will be happening.

Of course you can look and enjoy this half baked dough as a completed bread. I didn't mind so much, but this you misunderstanding me believing that there will be season 2 is somewhat irritates me lol.

ttcchen said:



I personally trust the Japanese's definition of Yuri more than anything else, since this is their genre

Edit: There's no need to differentiate anything. The definitions you found in the first ss are just wrong. Please, don't trust random websites with no credibility

作品の場合、女性同士の恋愛だけでなく恋愛に近い友愛や広く友情を含んだ作品も百合と言うことが多い

(Yuri) is not limited to romance between girls; many works featuring friendships approaching romantic love or blossoming friendships are also called yuri.

『コミック百合姫』等の百合専門誌に掲載された作品や、『百合作品ファイル』『百合の世界入門』（玄光社 2016年10月）での百合作品紹介では、女性同性愛とはいえない友愛・友情の作品の多くも百合作品として扱われている。

Regarding works published in yuri magazines such as "Comic Yuri Hime" as well as in 百合作品ファイル [Yuri Files] and 百合の世界入門 [Global Intro to Yuri]'s introductions to yuri, many works dealing with friendships that cannot be described as lesbian love are treated as yuri.

Parataxicalis said:


Exactly; furthermore, the second sentence of the wikipedia article says that yuri is not limited to sexual relationships. The Japanese version of the wikipedia article also says the same thing:



In particular, I find the footnote after this particular sentence to be very telling, as it cites specific examples of how native sources treat this topic.

Lab_Rat_0978 said:


the funniest is,
nobody mentions shoujo ai. showcasing the term "shoujo ai" isnt even a thing in japan. its either yuri, or GL (ガールズラブ)

famous japanese web novel website, SYOSETU also tagged yuri as GL (ガールズラブ)

@astralkill00

you have been living in an illusion, yuri (GL) isnt necessarily gone sexual

astralkill00 said:

It really depends on what you believe in.
One term used for another isn't necessarily true if you don't believe it.

Lab_Rat_0978 said:


you should believe the term that actually is used by japanese lol they even goes so far choosing a specific term, GL (ガールズラブ) which of course its in foreign language, to make the world understand yuri from their POV

so
why would you come up and believe in another term with a whole different meaning unnecessarily?

astralkill00 said:

It really depends on what you believe in.
One term used for another isn't necessarily true if you don't believe it. The opposite also applies.

P.S. I remembered we used Shoujo Ai for Girls Love years ago or was it for yuri? ಠ⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ⁠ಠ

As I said earlier, there are different kinds of tags that we really need to differentiate between the 2 or 3 of them. i.e. Yuri frienship, yuri-borderline etc.

Edit: We might as well use Yuri then for girls friendship and use Girls Love for lesbianism. Unfortunately, the DB hasn't yet indicated it.

Additionally, since there's no tag for it.
It's just a FFA imagination or delusion as you called it.

Lab_Rat_0978 said:


the point still stands tho, theyre all Yuri lol

the terms Yuri-friendship, Yuri-borderline etc are just to help(?) people so they know what to expect I guess?
but most of people dont really look at the genre tag anyway,
whats the point?
its unnecessary to add unnecessary things unnecessarily, lets just treat it as Russian Roulette

with that being said,
someone should include NTR on the romance tag, its illegal to tag this monstrosity with just "romance"

Parataxicalis said:


Exactly; furthermore, the second sentence of the wikipedia article says that yuri is not limited to sexual relationships. The Japanese version of the wikipedia article also says the same thing:



In particular, I find the footnote after this particular sentence to be very telling, as it cites specific examples of how native sources treat this topic.

astralkill00 said:

It really depends on what you believe in.
One term used for another isn't necessarily true if you don't believe it. The opposite also applies.

P.S. I remembered we used Shoujo Ai for Girls Love years ago or was it for yuri? ಠ⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ⁠ಠ

As I said earlier, there are different kinds of tags that we really need to differentiate between the 2 or 3 of them. i.e. Yuri frienship, yuri-borderline etc.

Edit: We might as well use Yuri then for girls friendship and use Girls Love for lesbianism. Unfortunately, the DB hasn't yet indicated it.

Additionally, since there's no tag for it.
It's just a FFA imagination or delusion as you called it.

astralkill00 said:

lmao (character limit) ⟵⁠(⁠o⁠_⁠O⁠)⁠