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Jan 8, 2017 2:10 AM

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Those days, I have been watching Fate Kaleid. I hope the serie gets better later .. Disturbing and boring things in this serie OTL At least, there aren't many episodes.
NyarlathothepJan 8, 2017 2:14 AM
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Just a moment.

About the anime.

Is it safe to assume that the female master is dead?

=(
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Are you implying the Elder God known as Gudako actually has a concept of death?

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Bonssons said:
Just a moment.

About the anime.

Is it safe to assume that the female master is dead?

=(

Frozen in some tube.Believe.
Jan 9, 2017 1:02 AM

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Are you implying the Elder God known as Gudako actually has a concept of death?

That's not Gudako. Different hair color.
Jan 9, 2017 5:07 AM

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@ssjokg but... there was fire. explosions. Those 46 other masters should be dead by now.

My little ginger master is dead (probably). =(
So cruel...

I'll take Shinso's explanation and also say that Gugaku is a different character =P
Jan 9, 2017 5:55 AM

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@ssjokg but... there was fire. explosions. Those 46 other masters should be dead by now.

My little ginger master is dead (probably). =(
So cruel...

I'll take Shinso's explanation and also say that Gugaku is a different character =P
Roman said that they were critically injured and Olga ordered him to put them on ice.
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Oh yeah that is true. But at least some of the candidates died.

And a question. What is the explanation in game for the possibility to summon multiple servants? Will that happen in the anime as well? (I guess not, since in the game caster joins your party at the end of Fuyuki, but in the anime he just vanished)
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They were sending 48 people to Fuyuki and if you assume they get 1 Servant each, they can summon a lot of Servants. And even if it's one per team, there are still several teams so they can still summon several Servants. So now that you're the only Master left, you're the only one who gets to use the function. They're prepared to handle that many so them being used by you only is still possible. As for the energy expenditure, KnK event says that Chaldea provides 40% of the energy by transmuting electrical energy to magical energy. But 60% is still a lot so you don't get to summon a lot of them. Hence the party of 5 in gameplay?
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Bonssons said:
Oh yeah that is true. But at least some of the candidates died.

And a question. What is the explanation in game for the possibility to summon multiple servants? Will that happen in the anime as well? (I guess not, since in the game caster joins your party at the end of Fuyuki, but in the anime he just vanished)


I doubt the anime will feature Gudao summoning another servant, I mean come on, we all ditch Shielder because almost any servant is better than her. The only thing she has is a shield, how are you gonna win a fight with that? huehue I'll protect senpai because I am such a good kohai and that's pretty much my whole character.
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The only Servants we will see joining Ritsuka are the ones that were in-story support.And of course it wont be summons but them joining the party.
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KaiserNazrin said:

I mean come on, we all ditch Shielder because almost any servant is better than her. The only thing she has is a shield, how are you gonna win a fight with that? huehue I'll protect senpai because I am such a good kohai and that's pretty much my whole character.


Shielder is part of my main team. And she's been on the main team for the most part, actually.

Not because she is strong and stuff. She is just a solid free support.
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Bonssons said:
KaiserNazrin said:

I mean come on, we all ditch Shielder because almost any servant is better than her. The only thing she has is a shield, how are you gonna win a fight with that? huehue I'll protect senpai because I am such a good kohai and that's pretty much my whole character.


Shielder is part of my main team. And she's been on the main team for the most part, actually.

Not because she is strong and stuff. She is just a solid free support.


Of course, she is also part of my main team, The last slot to be precise because I can't let it be empty and yet can't add another servant either.

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haha that is a good strategy.

Since I play a lot with a buster team (always two or more berserkers), Shielder's skills are pretty good =)

But yeah. Her main function is to be there and take some hits instead of sakata/jeanne/heracles.
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So, le me bored watching Fate Kaleid. Then, in the episode, characters take water bottles .. From my region ! WTF o:
You know a serie is bad when the water characters drink in it is the most interesting thing since many episodes Lol
NyarlathothepJan 9, 2017 2:22 PM
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Prillya doesn't get good till Ko-Gil shows up
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-Mahesvara said:
Prillya doesn't get good till Ko-Gil shows up
This.
No, Prisma Illya isn't good without Ko-Gil

... And Angelica.
Jan 9, 2017 3:59 PM

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Prillya was always pretty good IMO. It seriously grows on you with multiple rewatches. I didn't catch half the subtle F/SN references in the first watch.
It becomes great when Ko-Gil shows up and flipping amazing when our original faker makes his appearance, though.
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I hated Prisma Illya for the fact of its idiotic plot for the first half(Bazzet's appearance smoothed it out for me, followed by Gil and Angelica) and MiyuShirou isn't all that bad either.

The first season and first half of the second season make me want to kill myself though.
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I hated Prisma Illya for the fact of its idiotic plot for the first half(Bazzet's appearance smoothed it out for me, followed by Gil and Angelica) and MiyuShirou isn't all that bad either.

The first season and first half of the second season make me want to kill myself though.

I'm curious, have you read Hollow Ataraxia? Loli yuri aside, Prillya's events in the first three seasons read/seem like they were straight day/ataraxia scenes.
Jan 9, 2017 4:35 PM

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Prisma Illya is great for creeps guys who like that sort of fanservice though. Like this is some top-tier stuff.
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Prisma Illya is great for creeps guys who like that sort of fanservice though. Like this is some top-tier stuff.

I honestly watch Prillya for the Fate/service. I couldn't care less for the ecchi scenes.
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I know, but in the first couple seasons, that's what carried it. The loli fanservice that most people are a sucker for. Let's be honest, every Fate fan wanted an Illya route so this is the next best thing.
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Luckily there was Sella, Leysritt, Luvia, Rin, and Irisveil to balance things out during that stretch.
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I know, but in the first couple seasons, that's what carried it. The loli fanservice that most people are a sucker for. Let's be honest, every Fate fan wanted an Illya route so this is the next best thing.

I disagree. While the fanservice most certainly helped, the Fate/service is the only thing that actually allowed it to last this long.
Prillya isn't the only manga with high loli yuri content, even if most of Prillya isn't even that high on the fanservice, how many of those get adapted AND last for 4 seasons AND get a theatrical movie.

Prillya being something very close to an Illya route is an awesome thing. Being an Illya route isn't loli service, it's Fate service.
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ShinsoPriest said:
I know, but in the first couple seasons, that's what carried it. The loli fanservice that most people are a sucker for. Let's be honest, every Fate fan wanted an Illya route so this is the next best thing.

I disagree. While the fanservice most certainly helped, the Fate/service is the only thing that actually allowed it to last this long.
Prillya isn't the only manga with high loli yuri content, even if most of Prillya isn't even that high on the fanservice, how many of those get adapted AND last for 4 seasons AND get a theatrical movie.

Prillya being something very close to an Illya route is an awesome thing. Being an Illya route isn't loli service, it's Fate service.

Why not both.jpg
Jan 9, 2017 5:16 PM

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astroprogs said:

I disagree. While the fanservice most certainly helped, the Fate/service is the only thing that actually allowed it to last this long.
Prillya isn't the only manga with high loli yuri content, even if most of Prillya isn't even that high on the fanservice, how many of those get adapted AND last for 4 seasons AND get a theatrical movie.

Prillya being something very close to an Illya route is an awesome thing. Being an Illya route isn't loli service, it's Fate service.

Why not both.jpg

True enough.
Jan 9, 2017 5:17 PM

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Well the manga yes.

The anime....not so much.It gets to the point where they treat ecchi better than the rest of the story.
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Well the manga yes.

The anime....not so much.It gets to the point where they treat ecchi better than the rest of the story.

That's only 3rei, though. The previous seasons upped the fanservice, but not on the price of the story or fight scenes like they did in 3rei.
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ssjokg said:
Well the manga yes.

The anime....not so much.It gets to the point where they treat ecchi better than the rest of the story.

That's only 3rei, though. The previous seasons upped the fanservice, but not on the price of the story or fight scenes like they did in 3rei.
Why go through that trouble tho?
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astroprogs said:

That's only 3rei, though. The previous seasons upped the fanservice, but not on the price of the story or fight scenes like they did in 3rei.
Why go through that trouble tho?

Because, for a Fate fan, everything else is so damn good. Why should i be bothered by a few scenes i can skip anyway?
Jan 9, 2017 5:32 PM

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I for one never considered Prillya part of Fate universe. I like to pretend it doesn't exist too.

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I for one never considered Prillya part of Fate universe. I like to pretend it doesn't exist too.

Well, it's officially canon, since it takes a part in the Time Temple, so...
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I hated Prisma Illya for the fact of its idiotic plot for the first half(Bazzet's appearance smoothed it out for me, followed by Gil and Angelica) and MiyuShirou isn't all that bad either.

The first season and first half of the second season make me want to kill myself though.

I'm curious, have you read Hollow Ataraxia? Loli yuri aside, Prillya's events in the first three seasons read/seem like they were straight day/ataraxia scenes.
Never read Ataraxia, only synopsis and things about Angra Mainyu and Caren(what I truly cared about for it)
Jan 9, 2017 5:53 PM

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KaiserNazrin said:
I for one never considered Prillya part of Fate universe. I like to pretend it doesn't exist too.

Well, it's officially canon, since it takes a part in the Time Temple, so...


I'd like to believe Solomon erased Prillya.

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astroprogs said:

I'm curious, have you read Hollow Ataraxia? Loli yuri aside, Prillya's events in the first three seasons read/seem like they were straight day/ataraxia scenes.
Never read Ataraxia, only synopsis and things about Angra Mainyu and Caren(what I truly cared about for it)

I recommend at least trying it out. It has a lot of really good scenes, backstories and such, and who knows, maybe it'll give you a new perspective on Prillya. Doubly so if you liked Bazett, since, alongside Shirou and AM, she's a protagonist of the story.

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astroprogs said:

Well, it's officially canon, since it takes a part in the Time Temple, so...


I'd like to believe Solomon erased Prillya.

lol Well, if he failed, everything returns to normal, so if he erased Prillya, he also erased pretty much everything else :p

Let me put that in terms you may care about: if he erased Prillya, he erased Jeanne :p
Jan 10, 2017 10:00 AM

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The bottle story ... Has following events ! Today at work, I met people who had the exact same bottles as in Fate Kaleid, and in Japanese xD

If I watch this serie, it's mainly because I heard Ko-Gil had good moments Haha Sadly, I have not reached there yet, so it's mostly me cringing
Well, I don't care about Yuri scenes, but there still are a lot of things that make me facepalm, like incest scenes (Or even : Yuri incest scenes), and how those kids are so randomly sexualized.
I really enjoyed Illya's fight against Alter Saber in season 1 and I like the idea of how they use Servant cards to fight.
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ShadowfrostZen said:
Never read Ataraxia, only synopsis and things about Angra Mainyu and Caren(what I truly cared about for it)

I recommend at least trying it out. It has a lot of really good scenes, backstories and such, and who knows, maybe it'll give you a new perspective on Prillya. Doubly so if you liked Bazett, since, alongside Shirou and AM, she's a protagonist of the story.

That's really not enough to care and I don't like Visual Novels that much.
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ShadowfrostZen said:
astroprogs said:

I recommend at least trying it out. It has a lot of really good scenes, backstories and such, and who knows, maybe it'll give you a new perspective on Prillya. Doubly so if you liked Bazett, since, alongside Shirou and AM, she's a protagonist of the story.

That's really not enough to care and I don't like Visual Novels that much.

Get out you filthy casual. I haven't finished Hollow Ataraxia either, still waiting for that voice patch lol
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Get out you filthy casual.
Shit man you're right
Excuse me while I use this noose.
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ShadowfrostZen said:
That's really not enough to care and I don't like Visual Novels that much.

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Shit man you're right
Excuse me while I use this noose.

Oh yeah, I remember that you said you don't like F/SN either. How can you dislike an entire medium like this and deprive yourself of several great h-scenes stories.
Man, my inner seigi-no-mikata wants to help you with this.


Seriously though, you read Apocrypha, right? How are VNs any different from your perspective, I wonder? They're basically LNs with pics and BGM.
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And you can make choices that effect the story. Very engaging. Especially Type-Moon stuff.
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*raises hand*

I didn't like Prisma either. S1 was okay, the Archer install fight was what sealed the deal. S2 was a slight step up with it's hijinks. S3 was where it completely fell off for me so I dropped the series.
Tried again with the recent one but couldn't be invested so I just youtube all the neat bits. Couldn't care less about the movie to be honest.
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Oh yeah, I remember that you said you don't like F/SN either. How can you dislike an entire medium like this and deprive yourself of several great h-scenes stories.
Man, my inner seigi-no-mikata wants to help you with this.

Seriously though, you read Apocrypha, right? How are VNs any different from your perspective, I wonder? They're basically LNs with pics and BGM.
I hate FSN, I hate 60% of the story and the characters in them(bar Sakura and a few others, I love the servants more than I do others) I absolutely hate Shirou's archetype of a "hero" and how the story is in FSN makes me want to just hang myself in its entirety

I've read Apocrypha because I can take Apocrypha on the go with me and I can pull it out as a book to read when I'm not busy. Apocrypha has more likable characters(Darnic, Vlad III, Amakusa, Karna etc) that appeal to my type of character, and while Sieg does fall in the same category as Shirou, I can tolerate him less, for some reason. Must be the backstory. Also, how Apocrypha is set up is really cool, how its a 7v7 match with one(two) extra classes that aren't Angra Mainyu.

Tldr: I love what Stay Night did to the series, but I don't like the content inside.
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I think Holy Grail War in Fate Stay Night is total shit compare to Fate Zero and Apocrypha. Something about the masters being lame as hell.

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Kaiser basically summed up my feelings pretty well.
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I think I finally .. Finally ... Finally reached where Fate Kaleid gets more interesting ! After some yaoi parts and characters being annoying, maybe I can finally enjoy it Lol

I did enjoy Fate Stay Night, but the main character really pissed me off so I had mixed feelings about it.

Btw, can someone please tell me where I can read the end of Fate Apocrypha LN? I can't find any translation after the Volume 3 so I'm stuck waiting to get to know what happens next :'(
I hope the same won't happen for Fate Strange Fake, it'd get really frustrating not being able to read the end neither as I really enjoy it, though people in the group said it was already fully translated.
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Btw, can someone please tell me where I can read the end of Fate Apocrypha LN?
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The future.

Or find the thread and the post where it was translated.
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astroprogs said:

Oh yeah, I remember that you said you don't like F/SN either. How can you dislike an entire medium like this and deprive yourself of several great h-scenes stories.
Man, my inner seigi-no-mikata wants to help you with this.

Seriously though, you read Apocrypha, right? How are VNs any different from your perspective, I wonder? They're basically LNs with pics and BGM.
I hate FSN, I hate 60% of the story and the characters in them(bar Sakura and a few others, I love the servants more than I do others) I absolutely hate Shirou's archetype of a "hero" and how the story is in FSN makes me want to just hang myself in its entirety

I've read Apocrypha because I can take Apocrypha on the go with me and I can pull it out as a book to read when I'm not busy. Apocrypha has more likable characters(Darnic, Vlad III, Amakusa, Karna etc) that appeal to my type of character, and while Sieg does fall in the same category as Shirou, I can tolerate him less, for some reason. Must be the backstory. Also, how Apocrypha is set up is really cool, how its a 7v7 match with one(two) extra classes that aren't Angra Mainyu.

Tldr: I love what Stay Night did to the series, but I don't like the content inside.

That's fair about F/SN. I was talking about VNs in general, so I meant Apocrypha as a representative of the LN medium
You can take VNs on the go as well. Most of the highly acclaimed ones are on android. S;G on android is fantastic, for example.

Apocrypha seems really cool, but I keep hearing bad things about its later half and how it ends.
I'm also concerned about the bloated cast. How can they possibly flesh out all these characters.

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I think Holy Grail War in Fate Stay Night is total shit compare to Fate Zero and Apocrypha. Something about the masters being lame as hell.

To each their own. I prefer F/SN's cast to F/Z greatly.
I know little about Apocrypha to have an opinion on it yet.
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