Thoughts on Yoshihiro Togashi allegedly faking his health issues?

Kuma said:
and his wife also a succesful mangaka too..if they want, they can already enjoy their life...

alexonxanax said:

I'm a student so I don't know what you mean by sticking to a job simply because its a job. If I hate a job, why would I do it? To pay the rent? But what if the job pays me so well that the rent for the next 100 years is taken care of? Would I still do it even though I hate it? I'd quit and live a life a luxury. Togashi doesn't do it for the money. He does it cause he likes doing what he does. Back when he was still working on YuYu Hakusho, he said he was so stressed out that his sleep pattern got disturbed and he suffered chest pain. The guy obviously can't handle stress. Ultimately he axed that series. I know what stress does to your health and ultimately I don't want either him or the story to suffer. That's why I and so many other fans DONT mind waiting, cause waiting guarantees that the quality of the story is good. You might be okay with reading mediocre crap but a lot of us aren't. Togashi isn't called a genius storyteller for nothing. As someone who hasn't read HxH I don't think you're qualified to comment on how he should do things. And frankly even if you did, IMHO I don't think you still should. The only problem are the people who are short sighted and impatient that they don't even care about the quality or the health of the mangaka just cause they are getting inconvenienced.

Jonesy974 said:


Pretty much stopped caring about what you typed as soon as you said "student". I'm going to assume that when you say student, you mean middle school student, because you seem to lack the basic fundamental concepts of how money, jobs, and the real world work.

First of all, I just have to take a second to point out what a fucking hypocritical rodent you are. Someone who has zero experience with jobs, money, or paying the bills thinks they have the right to talk about those topics, yet according to the likes of you, I'm not "qualified" to talk about this author, but even if I was I shouldn't anyway. Uh...who the fuck are you? lmao.

Ok, now that's out of the way:
1. "If I hate a job why would I do it? To pay rent?"
- Uh, yes. When you reach an age to start reading statistical articles, look up job satisfaction. Staggering amounts of people are in jobs they don't like because they pay is good. And, FYI, rent is far from the only bill grownups have to pay. You've got rent, water, electric, cable, internet, cell phone, health insurance, car insurance, homeowner/renter's insurance, and MORE depending on where and how you live.

2. "But what if the job pays me so well that the rent for the next 100 years is taken care of?"
- Well buddy, lets just flat out shut that shit down with a dose of reality; a job like that doesn't exist. Anywhere. Unless you're the Chairman of a multi-billion dollar international conglomerate, but living in slum apartment...which also doesn't happen. And the jobs that do pay that well? They're called careers, and you dedicate decades of your life to them and advance yourself. You don't just get the job and your first paycheck a week later is 4 million dollars.

3."he was so stressed out that his sleep pattern got disturbed and he suffered chest pain. The guy obviously can't handle stress."
- While that card might work for like 1/10 of his hiatuses, that argument starts to lose its legs to stand on when you've got Tite Kubo, who was getting so sick that people thought he was legitimately going to die before he finished Bleach. He was physically ill all the goddamn time, and even then his hiatuses would last only 1-3 weeks at most.

Jonesy974 said:


Pretty much stopped caring about what you typed as soon as you said "student". I'm going to assume that when you say student, you mean middle school student, because you seem to lack the basic fundamental concepts of how money, jobs, and the real world work.

First of all, I just have to take a second to point out what a fucking hypocritical rodent you are. Someone who has zero experience with jobs, money, or paying the bills thinks they have the right to talk about those topics, yet according to the likes of you, I'm not "qualified" to talk about this author, but even if I was I shouldn't anyway. Uh...who the fuck are you? lmao.

Ok, now that's out of the way:
1. "If I hate a job why would I do it? To pay rent?"
- Uh, yes. When you reach an age to start reading statistical articles, look up job satisfaction. Staggering amounts of people are in jobs they don't like because they pay is good. And, FYI, rent is far from the only bill grownups have to pay. You've got rent, water, electric, cable, internet, cell phone, health insurance, car insurance, homeowner/renter's insurance, and MORE depending on where and how you live.

2. "But what if the job pays me so well that the rent for the next 100 years is taken care of?"
- Well buddy, lets just flat out shut that shit down with a dose of reality; a job like that doesn't exist. Anywhere. Unless you're the Chairman of a multi-billion dollar international conglomerate, but living in slum apartment...which also doesn't happen. And the jobs that do pay that well? They're called careers, and you dedicate decades of your life to them and advance yourself. You don't just get the job and your first paycheck a week later is 4 million dollars.

3."he was so stressed out that his sleep pattern got disturbed and he suffered chest pain. The guy obviously can't handle stress."
- While that card might work for like 1/10 of his hiatuses, that argument starts to lose its legs to stand on when you've got Tite Kubo, who was getting so sick that people thought he was legitimately going to die before he finished Bleach. He was physically ill all the goddamn time, and even then his hiatuses would last only 1-3 weeks at most.

alexonxanax said:

Firstly, "Rent", was of course meant to be inclusive of all those things you said, and anyone with even a modest level of intellect would have figured that out.
Secondly, Togashi HAS made a career of it, he's been in the manga industry as a successful author for decades, since the 1980s. He's entitled to sit back and relax as he's in his 50's and has suffered a very large number of problems, is what I personally feel. Calling a 50 year old mangaka who has worked for more decades than you've been alive, an "asshole" who doesn't work for as many days as Santa Claus? Your lack of empathy for other human beings is simply astounding.
Thirdly, it seems you think all jobs have the same work environment. I may not be working myself, but I do have many people around me who are, and I understand that every job has its own requirements. A blue collar worker has a job, which by nature, is replaceable. He needs to work a number of hours with a certain level of efficiency lest he gets replaced, by the innumerable people who are as low-skilled and replaceable as he is. THAT'S the nature of HIS job. An author of book doesn't have that kind of a job. He can work of years on his draft and the publishers put up with it because that's the worth of his skills and his storytelling. Same is the case for a mangaka like Togashi. Btw, Kubo is much younger than Togashi and you really can't compare two different authors and ask them to behave the same. It's like saying George RR Martin should publish much faster cause John Grisham does.
I know the world seems unfair to people like you who need to work their asses off and still can't pay rent, but there ARE people who get paid a shit load of money simply because of their ideas. Not everybody is as replaceable as you are in your job.

Lastly, I am university student. It's a shame you didn't get higher education because it really would have helped you improve your arguments and view things from logical/different perspectives. Life isn't as black and white as it seems. Education isn't simply for getting a better job, but to be a better human being and contribute to society in more meaningful ways. You said Togashi "should" quit, get a normal job, etc. I on the other hand, never instructed/told you that you "should" do/not do something, simply that I "feel" that people "in my opinion" shouldn't tell authors what they should do, whether they have read or not read their work. That's a huge difference between us, and it doesn't make me a hypocrite.

Btw, the way you throw insults at other people is almost juvenile. It's comical how you need to resort to ad-hominem to buffer your arguments. Another area where higher education would have helped you.

GangsterCat said:
togashi (and miura) are irresponsible as fuck
if you are too lazy to continue the goddamn manga just finish it ASAP before we all die!

bigivelfhq said:


Togashi and Miura are totally different cases that people like to treat like they are the same.

First, Miura Magazine is biweekly, not weekly like Togashi.

Second, Miura in fact changed his release schedule and informed is readers. It turned to something like 3 months working in chapters, without releasing them, though it could go for a little longer or a little shorter, and than 2 months of release of those chapters(4 chapters).

Third, 1 or 2 years ago, he really went into a long hiatus, that even his readers thought he would stop writing the manga, but in fact he was working for another manga.

Fourth, Miura recently changed is release schedule to Monthly, improving the publishing speed, but had to stop because of the anime, than returned again and had to stop again. Now this time is because of the 2nd season of the anime or because he just can keep up with the 1 month - 1 chapter release rate.

Fitht, Miura jokes started because in one of the chapters that he released in the magazine he talked about how he was a fan of IdolM@ster. And so the "breaks" in his release schedule were jokingly considered pauses to play the game.

Togashi contrary to Miura never had a flexible schedule announced to the readers and he just go to hiatus and comes back randomly, and after a long time.

GangsterCat said:
Sixth, Berserk is hiatus again now

now what?

alexonxanax said:


Firstly, "Rent", was of course meant to be inclusive of all those things you said, and anyone with even a modest level of intellect would have figured that out.
Secondly, Togashi HAS made a career of it, he's been in the manga industry as a successful author for decades, since the 1980s. He's entitled to sit back and relax as he's in his 50's and has suffered a very large number of problems, is what I personally feel. Calling a 50 year old mangaka who has worked for more decades than you've been alive, an "asshole" who doesn't work for as many days as Santa Claus? Your lack of empathy for other human beings is simply astounding.
Thirdly, it seems you think all jobs have the same work environment. I may not be working myself, but I do have many people around me who are, and I understand that every job has its own requirements. A blue collar worker has a job, which by nature, is replaceable. He needs to work a number of hours with a certain level of efficiency lest he gets replaced, by the innumerable people who are as low-skilled and replaceable as he is. THAT'S the nature of HIS job. An author of book doesn't have that kind of a job. He can work of years on his draft and the publishers put up with it because that's the worth of his skills and his storytelling. Same is the case for a mangaka like Togashi. Btw, Kubo is much younger than Togashi and you really can't compare two different authors and ask them to behave the same. It's like saying George RR Martin should publish much faster cause John Grisham does.
I know the world seems unfair to people like you who need to work their asses off and still can't pay rent, but there ARE people who get paid a shit load of money simply because of their ideas. Not everybody is as replaceable as you are in your job.

Lastly, I am university student. It's a shame you didn't get higher education because it really would have helped you improve your arguments and view things from logical/different perspectives. Life isn't as black and white as it seems. Education isn't simply for getting a better job, but to be a better human being and contribute to society in more meaningful ways. You said Togashi "should" quit, get a normal job, etc. I on the other hand, never instructed/told you that you "should" do/not do something, simply that I "feel" that people "in my opinion" shouldn't tell authors what they should do, whether they have read or not read their work. That's a huge difference between us, and it doesn't make me a hypocrite.

Btw, the way you throw insults at other people is almost juvenile. It's comical how you need to resort to ad-hominem to buffer your arguments. Another area where higher education would have helped you.