cupc said: I was literally having the time of my life during that scene. Was seriously starting to wonder if I was the only one who liked it.....I mean it's a bad scene in many ways but still..... |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3priest said: cupc said: I was literally having the time of my life during that scene. Was seriously starting to wonder if I was the only one who liked it.....I mean it's a bad scene in many ways but still..... Not sure if this thread is considered vn spoiler territory so I'll use it anyway |
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NxK said: insan3priest said: Was seriously starting to wonder if I was the only one who liked it.....I mean it's a bad scene in many ways but still..... Not sure if this thread is considered vn spoiler territory so I'll use it anyway I don't know |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3priest said: NxK said: Not sure if this thread is considered vn spoiler territory so I'll use it anyway I don't know |
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| I suppose that's true. I'll try to look at that scene differently when I get to it in UBW. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
CookingPriest said: insan3priest said: I don't know |
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CookingPriest said: insan3priest said: I don't know |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
NxK said: CookingPriest said: |
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Udgey said: NxK said: EDIT: F/Z spoilers |
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ijuka said: [/spoiler] |
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Qans said: It's just a quote, not really a spoiler ~~ |
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CookingPriest said: ijuka said: [/spoiler] You make a clever argument but you might be grasping at straws at this point... Not everything in the VN was literary masterpiece-level. I think I buy what you said regarding the second scene, but I still think the first was one of the low points. |
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CookingPriest said: ijuka said: [/spoiler] Saber's everyone's obsession~ But as a King 'all belongs to her'.~ |
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mirakura said: CookingPriest said: [/spoiler] Saber's everyone's obsession~ But as a King 'all belongs to her'.~ Thanks for posting on these boards. I find your saber fanboyism very refreshing amongs the sea of Rin/Kirei worshippers. |
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NxK said: mirakura said: Saber's everyone's obsession~ But as a King 'all belongs to her'.~ Thanks for posting on these boards. I find your saber fanboyism very refreshing amongs the sea of Rin/Kirei worshippers. I seriously hope you're joking, because there are enough Saber fanboys here on these forums. Only here we have a fangirl actually. Besides, my favorite heroine is Ilya. Because I'm a lolicon. |
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CorePriest said: NxK said: Thanks for posting on these boards. I find your saber fanboyism very refreshing amongs the sea of Rin/Kirei worshippers. I seriously hope you're joking, because there are enough Saber fanboys here on these forums. Only here we have a fangirl actually. Besides, my favorite heroine is Ilya. Because I'm a lolicon. There might be high in number but the Rin crowd are way more vocal. |
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| The sex scenes in Fate and UBW were mostly just plot devices while in HF they were a natural part of the story. The scenes being plot devices don't really bother me though because I felt they doubled as consensual sex between lovers as opposed to sex simply out of lust (like in your typical trashy VN). The sex scenes did add to the character's respective relationships aswell which I think is important to note. I think Nasu himself has admitted that he doesn't like writing H-scenes so I am sure he felt obligated to put them in simply because it was an eroge. In that respect I give him a pass for his awkwardly written H-scenes. They served their purpose and at least he tried. Thankfully he seems to be giving up on that sort of thing with Mahoyo not having any romance at all, lets hope he just sticks to what he's good at. As for the new series, it should be handled like the sex scene in the Berserk anime (and I don't mean during the eclipse). In other words, just show that they're having sex without going into any actual detail, that should be perfectly acceptable. |
ninjastarforcex said: Shintai said: As for the new series, it should be handled like the sex scene in the Berserk anime like orgy with snake dick goat demon? Yes, please. It will be awesome. |
CorePriest said: ninjastarforcex said: like orgy with snake dick goat demon? Yes, please. It will be awesome. Need to add that to my PTW |
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Shintai said: The sex scenes in Fate and UBW were mostly just plot devices while in HF they were a natural part of the story. The scenes being plot devices don't really bother me though because I felt they doubled as consensual sex between lovers as opposed to sex simply out of lust (like in your typical trashy VN). The sex scenes did add to the character's respective relationships aswell which I think is important to note. I think Nasu himself has admitted that he doesn't like writing H-scenes so I am sure he felt obligated to put them in simply because it was an eroge. In that respect I give him a pass for his awkwardly written H-scenes. They served their purpose and at least he tried. Thankfully he seems to be giving up on that sort of thing with Mahoyo not having any romance at all, lets hope he just sticks to what he's good at. As for the new series, it should be handled like the sex scene in the Berserk anime (and I don't mean during the eclipse). In other words, just show that they're having sex without going into any actual detail, that should be perfectly acceptable. The HF scenes are 'plot devices' as well. They have to be added to prove Sakura's past as well as the lust she feels. The second Fate H-scene was a natural part of the story. It doesn't necessarily have to be 'sex' but in that case it was her best way to show Shirou her love :3 Hence why she treated him to some eyecandy in Fate. I'm actually preferring the dragon scene to the firs h-scene. Lol, this, or I'm getting 'plot device' definition wrong >.< |
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NxK said: CorePriest said: Yes, please. It will be awesome. Need to add that to my PTW Pretty sure that didn't happen in the anime, if you are serious. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3priest said: NxK said: Need to add that to my PTW Pretty sure that didn't happen in the anime, if you are serious. |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
mirakura said: Shintai said: The sex scenes in Fate and UBW were mostly just plot devices while in HF they were a natural part of the story. The scenes being plot devices don't really bother me though because I felt they doubled as consensual sex between lovers as opposed to sex simply out of lust (like in your typical trashy VN). The sex scenes did add to the character's respective relationships aswell which I think is important to note. I think Nasu himself has admitted that he doesn't like writing H-scenes so I am sure he felt obligated to put them in simply because it was an eroge. In that respect I give him a pass for his awkwardly written H-scenes. They served their purpose and at least he tried. Thankfully he seems to be giving up on that sort of thing with Mahoyo not having any romance at all, lets hope he just sticks to what he's good at. As for the new series, it should be handled like the sex scene in the Berserk anime (and I don't mean during the eclipse). In other words, just show that they're having sex without going into any actual detail, that should be perfectly acceptable. The HF scenes are 'plot devices' as well. They have to be added to prove Sakura's past as well as the lust she feels. The second Fate H-scene was a natural part of the story. It doesn't necessarily have to be 'sex' but in that case it was her best way to show Shirou her love :3 Hence why she treated him to some eyecandy in Fate. I'm actually preferring the dragon scene to the firs h-scene. Lol, this, or I'm getting 'plot device' definition wrong >.< A plot device is typically something that can exist to move the plot forward or maintain it. I also want to clarify that just because something is a "plot device" it's not inherently a bad thing, it all comes down to how well it's used and how well it's integrated into the plot. Also, there was no orgy with the goat demon in the anime, I was referring moreso to the sex scene between: Spoiler for Berserk anime/ Manga during the Golden Age arc: |
| The mana transfer for the second sex scene in Fate was pretty obviously just an excuse Saber used. |
| [quote=Shintai] mirakura said: Shintai said: The sex scenes in Fate and UBW were mostly just plot devices while in HF they were a natural part of the story. The scenes being plot devices don't really bother me though because I felt they doubled as consensual sex between lovers as opposed to sex simply out of lust (like in your typical trashy VN). The sex scenes did add to the character's respective relationships aswell which I think is important to note. I think Nasu himself has admitted that he doesn't like writing H-scenes so I am sure he felt obligated to put them in simply because it was an eroge. In that respect I give him a pass for his awkwardly written H-scenes. They served their purpose and at least he tried. Thankfully he seems to be giving up on that sort of thing with Mahoyo not having any romance at all, lets hope he just sticks to what he's good at. As for the new series, it should be handled like the sex scene in the Berserk anime (and I don't mean during the eclipse). In other words, just show that they're having sex without going into any actual detail, that should be perfectly acceptable. The HF scenes are 'plot devices' as well. They have to be added to prove Sakura's past as well as the lust she feels. The second Fate H-scene was a natural part of the story. It doesn't necessarily have to be 'sex' but in that case it was her best way to show Shirou her love :3 Hence why she treated him to some eyecandy in Fate. I'm actually preferring the dragon scene to the firs h-scene. Lol, this, or I'm getting 'plot device' definition wrong >.< A plot device is typically something that can exist to move the plot forward or maintain it. |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
CorePriest said: Was it? I may not have picked up on that the first time I read through it.The mana transfer for the second sex scene in Fate was pretty obviously just an excuse Saber used. |
| -_- You are actually arguing against that? I do think that it's ridiculous to have sex for reasons other than having sex, yes. That same thing could be accomplished with drinking blood or even with dolphins and dragons. It doesn't matter what it is. The sex scene itself has no relevance in it. I'm amazed that I actually encounter someone who doesn't think that's just an excuse to have sex scenes. |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
ijuka said: -_- You are actually arguing against that? I do think that it's ridiculous to have sex for reasons other than having sex, yes. That same thing could be accomplished with drinking blood or even with dolphins and dragons. It doesn't matter what it is. The sex scene itself has no relevance in it. I'm amazed that I actually encounter someone who doesn't think that's just an excuse to have sex scenes. I don't think he's arguing that, though. He's saying that, despite that, it still does move the plot forward hokey and shoehorned or not. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
ijuka said: I am not saying the energy transfer wasn't an excuse to have a sex scene, of course it was, but in doing that the sex scenes also became a plot device. I hope that clears things up.-_- You are actually arguing against that? I do think that it's ridiculous to have sex for reasons other than having sex, yes. That same thing could be accomplished with drinking blood or even with dolphins and dragons. It doesn't matter what it is. The sex scene itself has no relevance in it. I'm amazed that I actually encounter someone who doesn't think that's just an excuse to have sex scenes. |
insan3priest said: ijuka said: -_- You are actually arguing against that? I do think that it's ridiculous to have sex for reasons other than having sex, yes. That same thing could be accomplished with drinking blood or even with dolphins and dragons. It doesn't matter what it is. The sex scene itself has no relevance in it. I'm amazed that I actually encounter someone who doesn't think that's just an excuse to have sex scenes. I don't think he's arguing that, though. He's saying that, despite that, it still does move the plot forward hokey and shoehorned or not. I disagree that the act of having sex itself does, which is what's important to me. Like if there was a sex scene during which they buy a house, it wouldn't be the sex scene moving the plot forward but the act of buying the house. I guess it happens during the sex scene, though. Well, let me change it from "the sex scene moving the story forward" to "the act of sex itself moving the story forward" |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
ijuka said: Shintai said: A plot device is typically something that can exist to move the plot forward or maintain it. The sex scenes in HF were to satisfy Sakura. They had nothing to do with love, just lust. Ofc toward the end, their meaning began to change. Lol, you believe Saber's lie? After the events of the H-scene, you think it was just a mana transfer?  |
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mirakura said: ijuka said: The sex scenes in HF were to satisfy Sakura. They had nothing to do with love, just lust. Ofc toward the end, their meaning began to change. Lol, you believe Saber's lie? After the events of the H-scene, you think it was just a mana transfer? imo the lust -is- an important part of the story but well, maybe it's a silly thing to argue about |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
Shintai said: @mirakura I would agree that with the sex scenes in HF it wasn't about love, that comment was moreso directed at the other sex scenes. Also gimme a break, it's been like 4 years since I read the VN, I don't remember if it was was a lie or not. =/ XD Don't worry, friendly laughter. |
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| Quite frankly, I find it doubtful. I think they might be definitely going the RN way, what with them already showing us those fishes/dolphins/whale sperm/whathaveyou in the prologue. Plus, in the RN h-alt scene, during the so they might use that to give some more connections or foreshadowing for the HF movie(s) I think (and technically, it would also share a connection with F/Z, but I think that's beside the point). To be honest, I like neither the h-scene nor the alt scene for this route, so I think maybe a kiss followed by a fade to black would be ideal. Failing that, if they somehow managed to I think I might get over my dislike for ,though I think I'd still find it mildly frustrating even if they accomplished such a thing. |
UBW is basically a route about three tsunderes constantly bashing their heads against one another.  |
| I hope not. From what I remember Shirou's...not the gentlest of lovers, to put it mildly. The scariest part to me is that Shiki is apparently worse. |
AllenNoah said: I hope not. From what I remember Shirou's...not the gentlest of lovers, to put it mildly. The scariest part to me is that Shiki is apparently worse. Lol, poor Rin, XDD |
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Even the H-scenes... |
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ZeroDragon said: Even the H-scenes... God dammit, I forgot that line. I don't like being in Shirou's head sometimes. And then he commits the sin of complaining that Rin kept her stockings on. |
AllenNoah said: I hope not. From what I remember Shirou's...not the gentlest of lovers, to put it mildly. The scariest part to me is that Shiki is apparently worse. You don't even know the half of it. |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
JunePriest said: It's gonna be either dolphins or fade to black. No, it will be H-alt like in the RN version. I bet on it. |
WrongPriest said: BotatoPriest said: What? No it's not. It was awkward as fuck O_o Tell that to my penis, Down boy! To save or not to save... |
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| well i love the letter h so i hope so |
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