Narmy said: I'm the one who said that, I dunno how you managed to screw that quote up. I suppose I should have said 'natural selection' instead; I wasn't talking about survival in the literal sense, but the process by which species evolve. Sorry I got confused with the quoting because both of you were saying similar things. But you cannot strip survival from human evolution. Natural selection is based off of death. Human evolution is based off of natural selection and is therefore, based off of death as well. This is simple logic. Natural selection and human evolution can therefore not occur without the principle of death. Just because it seems like many weak people are thriving today, doesn't mean they will not all die off soon in the vastness that is time and space. |
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| Evolution occurs when something needs to adapt to it's environment to make survival easier, so to speak... And that's where evolution stops. There is nothing further and we do not evolve beyond our means. But good hypothesis! |
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cabacc2 said: Nonyflah said: cabacc2 said: even if we assume that survival of the fittest doesnt apply to humans anymore, this still doesnt mean that we dont evolve anymore. Survival of the fittest still applies. It's just that the environment that we're attempting to fit into is different from the one our ancestors lived in thousands of years ago. I know. I never claimed otherwise. My apologies, there. I guess I misread your intentions. |
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Soren333 said: Life is about survival Survival is part of evolution Evolution is the process of the survival of the fittest and to pass on the "strong" genes Which eventually leads to evolved forms of primitive life Ultimately, evolution is the process of evolving species into the ultimate being Which is god We are in the process of becoming god Just a funny, little theory and is probably untrue. Indeed it is untrue because evolution doesn't try to improve an organism. It just changes an organism based on conditions and environment. |
Monad said: Soren333 said: Life is about survival Survival is part of evolution Evolution is the process of the survival of the fittest and to pass on the "strong" genes Which eventually leads to evolved forms of primitive life Ultimately, evolution is the process of evolving species into the ultimate being Which is god We are in the process of becoming god Just a funny, little theory and is probably untrue. Indeed it is untrue because evolution doesn't try to improve an organism. It just changes an organism based on conditions and environment. Indeed sir. |
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Corsair198 said: Natural selection: Those who cannot adopt to the environment die off, leaving only those who can to pass on their genes Medicine (e.g. vaccines): Allows those who cannot adopt to the environment to do so, allowing them to pass on their genes as well as those who are able to adapt to the environment in the first place. Therefore, for humans, natural selection does not apply as exactly to them as to other animals. Natural selection applies equally to both humans and animals. Humans are still animals, so the same principles of evolution and natural selection applies to humans. Medicine does not change this. For example, medicine in many cases requires money to obtain. Therefore, those who are able to obtain money and then medicine are the ones who will most likely survive. The principles of natural selection and death have in no way changed. |
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