| Bans and Warnings should be permanent, with a thread indicating members who have been warned/how many times so all admins can keep track of it. That way, their is no messing around, the admin who warned can keep the proof and "write" which admin warned who/when. That solves so many problems, but their is also the negative of it being "outing" for members, which can be pretty harsh. |
NoblePhantaZm said: In this specific case even if it had just happened and we caught it right away, I don't think a ban would be appropriate, even if his "apology" wasn't a very meaningful or genuine one. A single language slip up is just cause for a warning. This. |
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Malteasers said: Bans and Warnings should be permanent, with a thread indicating members who have been warned/how many times so all admins can keep track of it. That way, their is no messing around, the admin who warned can keep the proof and "write" which admin warned who/when. That solves so many problems, but their is also the negative of it being "outing" for members, which can be pretty harsh. That idea has been proposed some time ago and we rejected it since it would be like creating a "Monia Café's Wall of Shame" thread... |
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| Wouldn't it be a bit harsh if bans were permanent? Well I agree for those who post inappropriate stuff like that user who posted XXX stuff, permanent ban is appropriate. However we also have users who sometimes by accident break a rule and they get banned. They can be put under a 30 day probation period where if they mess up again, then they get banned on the spot. |
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TimeToRepent said: Malteasers said: Bans and Warnings should be permanent, with a thread indicating members who have been warned/how many times so all admins can keep track of it. That way, their is no messing around, the admin who warned can keep the proof and "write" which admin warned who/when. That solves so many problems, but their is also the negative of it being "outing" for members, which can be pretty harsh. That idea has been proposed some time ago and we rejected it since it would be like creating a "Monia Café's Wall of Shame" thread... I did say "That solves so many problems, but their is also the negative of it being "outing" for members, which can be pretty harsh." Although, I can see it being a reason for more inactivity, people don't like being shamed no matter where. Well, I personally think that MAL should be capable of creating a forum-side "Access Rank" thread, where only staff can enter etc, it's possible on other forums and isn't that difficult to do, but we frequently use MAL which can't even kick a banned name from a club x: I'll propose another idea. [spoiler]creating a dropbox account OR using a file-sharing site, where only admins can have access. I don't see any flaws their x.x |
| @Megumi: That's not a bad idea. @Mal: I never tried using Dropbox, just Mediafire. |
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| I like that idea. Keep it private and it doesn't hurt the other person who is banned because of being put on the spot. |
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TimeToRepent said: @Megumi: That's not a bad idea. @Mal: I never tried using Dropbox, just Mediafire. Dropbox, or any other file-sharing website is capable of doing it. You can also set it up so that a password is required to enter. It solves the problem of "outing" people in a thread on here, and it gives everyone who needs to know the information that will then be accessible any time they need it. Also, since it's more private, you can post the "evidence" you've gathered against said person(s) without it leaking to everyone else. |
| I like the idea. Let's see what Monia thinks about it. |
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NoblePhantaZm said: Malteasers said: I'll propose another idea. [spoiler]creating a dropbox account OR using a file-sharing site, where only admins can have access. I don't see any flaws their x.x As long as Monia's cool using an outside source to keep track of that stuff then that could work. The easiest way might be a simple Google Doc that keeps track of it all, that only the Admins are granted access to.[/quote] I actually forgot about google doc... *Facepalm* Well, it's the same end result. I don't really see a problem with it, although it is down to Monia. Using something not on MAL is also a good way of improving it's environment (well, thats what I think) [spoiler]I still use anichart instead of MAL's seasonal preview, for an example of outsourcing. |
| I never liked DropBox to be honest. Like for homework and stuff I would just use Google, log in, bring up the document and there. |
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| I already track the warnings giving to the members here which is why admins are required to post here once they warn a member. It is not that we have tons of warnings to manage them using a spreadsheet or something for now~ SweetMegumi said: By "Permanent", the ban won't be lifted no matter how much time passes. But the member can still appeal if they want to go back.Wouldn't it be a bit harsh if bans were permanent? Well I agree for those who post inappropriate stuff like that user who posted XXX stuff, permanent ban is appropriate. However we also have users who sometimes by accident break a rule and they get banned. They can be put under a 30 day probation period where if they mess up again, then they get banned on the spot. And it is unlikely for someone to get accidentally get banned, as multiple warnings are usually required for that. I think you suggested temporary bans before, I don't think there is any real use for that, as members who can get back get do that much faster than 30 days. And those with no hope simply won't ever be back. |
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| Just so you know guys, I am going to my hometown again, most likely in few hours. But I have more Internet than last time. And I won't stay as long. So I will still continue hiring admins during my absence^^ |
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SweetMonia said: Enjoy your visit to your hometown Monia :3Just so you know guys, I am going to my hometown again, most likely in few hours. But I have more Internet than last time. And I won't stay as long. So I will still continue hiring admins during my absence^^ |
| That's awesome monia~ I hope you have a good time :> |
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NoblePhantaZm said: My love for metal has been expressed in the screenshot too ^_^Gave Gownoazathotha a warning about swearing in the comments. They did it twice back to back, but apparently my screencap of the second time failed to go through before I deleted it, so I only have the one image. http://s3.postimg.org/tlutboa3n/Untitled.png |
| There were two comments? I have only saw the one of the SS |
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NoblePhantaZm said: It was the same comment but the word "blast" said something else, I didn't see this one XDHarusDS said: There were two comments? I have only saw the one of the SS There were yeah, but I only have the proof of one. I must have missed the print screen button before I deleted it... :c It was more or less the same comment. |
| I thought he was the one who deleted. If he did it twice than is worth of a warning ... |
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| Hmm.. I have a question... Does rule #3 not apply to Usernames? AverageB*****d I also have a question regarding a few words [spoiler]Piss and Ass are allowed or disallowed? I have seen them used quite a lot in the club, but no one has ever questioned its usage. |
| We did had a discussion about bad words on peoples nick a long time ago I think... I'm don't recall the result of it though. It's not like we can force people to change their nicks or sets. I believe there's nothing we can do regarding someones user name. ( I might be wrong though) About the words, both Ass and Piss used to be banned words, but since the new rule 3 is here they might be used IF ( and ONLY IF) they are not used on an offensive or overly sexual manner... Of course they also can't hurt rule #1. Did you saw anyone using those words on an inappropriate manner ? if so, please let us know. |
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Malteasers said: [/spoiler]Hmm.. I have a question... Does rule #3 not apply to Usernames? AverageB*****d I also have a question regarding a few words [spoiler]Piss and Ass are allowed or disallowed? I have seen them used quite a lot in the club, but no one has ever questioned its usage. For usernames, it is allowed. That's up to the user's responsability. Piss is allowed. Ass is allowed as well. There was a time I used to give warnings when it was used. Unless those two words aren't used in a lewd way, they are allowed. |
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HarusDS said: No, I didn't see the words used offensively but I was just wondering because I had seen it being used a lot recently. We did had a discussion about bad words on peoples nick a long time ago I think... I'm don't recall the result of it though. It's not like we can force people to change their nicks or sets. I believe there's nothing we can do regarding someones user name. ( I might be wrong though) About the words, both Ass and Piss used to be banned words, but since the new rule 3 is here they might be used IF ( and ONLY IF) they are not used on an offensive or overly sexual manner... Of course they also can't hurt rule #1. Did you saw anyone using those words on an inappropriate manner ? if so, please let us know. Well, the account isn't exactly active and I randomly seen it in the "club members" part, so it's not hurting anyone, I thought it would just be best to tell you of it. |
| So tuturu confirmed TimeToRepent said: For usernames, it is allowed. That's up to the user's responsability. But it's always good to know, thanks for informing. ~ If you have any more doubts feel free to ask ^^ @tuturu I wonder if it's ok for me do edit other peoples post just to fix quotes.. =x |
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HarusDS said: So tuturu confirmed TimeToRepent said: For usernames, it is allowed. That's up to the user's responsability. But it's always good to know, thanks for informing. ~ If you have any more doubts feel free to ask ^^ @tuturu I wonder if it's ok for me do edit other peoples post just to fix quotes.. =x There are no problems if it's just for fixing quotes~ |
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| Oh no.. the quote is a little thing that bothers me sometimes.. it's like a personal thing =x I won't go around fixing everything x.x |
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| Mhmmm... However, I wanna clear up something, since we already had a case about an user with the F-Word on their nickname who created a HST: If an user with that kind of word on their nickname wants to create a HST, it would be good if they use another nickname for the thread title. Example: The user I'm talking about had the F-word on their nickname. He asked me if he could create a HST. I told him to pick another nickname for the thread title. He has choosen "Fu-kun". What do you think about this? |
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TimeToRepent said: I would say that is inappropriate too, since if you speak it out in english; it's the same thing.Mhmmm... However, I wanna clear up something, since we already had a case about an user with the F-Word on their nickname who created a HST: If an user with that kind of word on their nickname wants to create a HST, it would be good if they use another nickname for the thread title. Example: The user I'm talking about had the F-word on their nickname. He asked me if he could create a HST. I told him to pick another nickname for the thread title. He has choosen "Fu-kun". What do you think about this? |
| I recall something about it.. Seem good to me. If a member with a bad word in the nick makes a HST we change the tittle to something that doesn't hurt any of the club rules. |
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| Mhmmm~ This is the mentioned HST: www.myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1380011 |
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Malteasers said: I would say that is inappropriate too, since if you speak it out in english; it's the same thing. Maybe they could have used Fu-San .. or Fu- Chin ... but still the whole point is to change the original nick. Yeah I remember that HST |
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| Guys, any word is allowed as long it is not a bad word and as long it is not used negatively....... |
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| We usually can't do much to usernames with banned word in it, so the best we can do is to suggest an alternative way for them to call users like that.. |
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| Also, I would like to say that I am still open to more admin applications. So those who did not apply yet can still do so~ |
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| http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1414888 Created a few days ago in regards to ban/remove issue. Hopefully it'll get implemented. |
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Super-Chao said: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1414888 Created a few days ago in regards to ban/remove issue. Hopefully it'll get implemented. Already posted on it. |
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SweetMonia said: I am going to my hometown again Have fun, Monia^^ |
| I was curious. What do you guys do to HST that aren't active anymore. Reasons being hiatus from this site, lazyness to ask others questions or no longer in the club. If it's the latter, then I see no point in keeping a thread open. Wouldn't it be better to just remove HST if the user is no longer in the club, or if the user is on hiatus, put a message. |
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| Banned members have their HST deleted. I think we could think about using the same approach to members that are no longer in the club...after all they did leave the club for some reason. Some members do leave messages when the are going on a hiatus, but I don't think we should just go out looking for inactive HST to leave "hiatus messages". (There's no point in doing it).. I don't see the problem in leaving inactive HST around. |
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| Kicking/removing threads/members would only decrease the activity, thats like saying to them "Thanks for being here, but now that you're gone we don't care about you" which isn't the right approach :x |
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