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Apr 28, 2017 9:09 PM
#3651
logic340 said: @Sleipnirr I would really like to hear from you. Grapefruit looks even worse due to the flip so if you're not scum it's time to start showing it. @Shinichi-kun I don't take Sleipnirr's long catch up as town motivated. I actually see it as him BSing us as scum. In the first game I played with him he subbed in late and without back reading was able to figure out Penta was scum after he had pocketed everyone. Now I am not putting the burden of prophecy on him but he could share some thoughts. Last time he posted he said he was around page 40 I believe that is more than enough to give some thoughts like kit. Also I will not take Denja's push for a Modkill as evidence of his innocence as by the time Denja started proposing that he had met the minimum for this phase. Denja could have sheeped sleipnirr to save his own behind its def possible, and i dont particular town read him i just want more from him before i decide anything. |
Apr 28, 2017 9:10 PM
#3652
Shinichi-Kun said: that's the pointPentaFlare said: Kit said: i wish i could vote penta again right now for trying to get townies onto denja's train................ >_> You want to play the meta game with your read on me? Here's some food for thought: Pushed really hard for a lynch against Claire on D1 in Shounen Crossover. She flipped scum. Stardust Crusaders Mafia. Had to push really hard to gather enough votes to pass the majority threshold needed for the lynch despite a lot of people suspecting me for trying so hard to get a lynch on Day 1. Corpse Party. Started a train on Shinichi near the end of the phase and pushed super hard to get him lynched instead of the other leading trains. He was then uninformed scum. Pirate Mafia. Big push on aa-dono on D2 which got ended when the hosts accidentally sent me a results PM that wasn't mine and had to be repped out. She was mafia. What's the common factor in all of these games beside really hard pushed to get people lynched? I was town in all of them. Sometimes, I'm just really confident in my reads. Denja was just that scummy. You need to stop seeing everything I do as scummy. Everything I have done can be explained from a town mindset because it was all done by a townie. Not to be a debbie downer, but what does any of this have to do with the specific train of this game? Though i doubt kits reasoning because unless your actually scum no one would have predicted that ability i for have never seen that role lol. Only thing i do know is u always push ur votes really hard. Im just waiting to hear more about your role before i make a decision. Also wanna see who dies at night i would assume it be either logic or grrr. |
Apr 28, 2017 9:10 PM
#3653
PentaFlare said: Question to leave for everyone before I go to sleep. Is anyone opposed to lynching aa-dono? If so, why? I could really easily see them as a team based on their treatment of each other. If u can fine posts that confirm that statement that would help but i do already plan to vote her anyways |
Apr 28, 2017 9:12 PM
#3654
Kit said: Shinichi-Kun said: that's the pointPentaFlare said: Kit said: i wish i could vote penta again right now for trying to get townies onto denja's train................ >_> You want to play the meta game with your read on me? Here's some food for thought: Pushed really hard for a lynch against Claire on D1 in Shounen Crossover. She flipped scum. Stardust Crusaders Mafia. Had to push really hard to gather enough votes to pass the majority threshold needed for the lynch despite a lot of people suspecting me for trying so hard to get a lynch on Day 1. Corpse Party. Started a train on Shinichi near the end of the phase and pushed super hard to get him lynched instead of the other leading trains. He was then uninformed scum. Pirate Mafia. Big push on aa-dono on D2 which got ended when the hosts accidentally sent me a results PM that wasn't mine and had to be repped out. She was mafia. What's the common factor in all of these games beside really hard pushed to get people lynched? I was town in all of them. Sometimes, I'm just really confident in my reads. Denja was just that scummy. You need to stop seeing everything I do as scummy. Everything I have done can be explained from a town mindset because it was all done by a townie. Not to be a debbie downer, but what does any of this have to do with the specific train of this game? Though i doubt kits reasoning because unless your actually scum no one would have predicted that ability i for have never seen that role lol. Only thing i do know is u always push ur votes really hard. Im just waiting to hear more about your role before i make a decision. Also wanna see who dies at night i would assume it be either logic or grrr. But u make it seem like he pushed that train harder than the rest, he even made an accidental tie by trying to make the sure the votes wouldnt be tied, that is enough evidence to explain why he pushed the votes on denja so hard. Thats the only reason i dont find it strange. |
Apr 28, 2017 9:14 PM
#3655
Shinichi-Kun said: hmm :/ point takenKit said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Kit said: i wish i could vote penta again right now for trying to get townies onto denja's train................ >_> You want to play the meta game with your read on me? Here's some food for thought: Pushed really hard for a lynch against Claire on D1 in Shounen Crossover. She flipped scum. Stardust Crusaders Mafia. Had to push really hard to gather enough votes to pass the majority threshold needed for the lynch despite a lot of people suspecting me for trying so hard to get a lynch on Day 1. Corpse Party. Started a train on Shinichi near the end of the phase and pushed super hard to get him lynched instead of the other leading trains. He was then uninformed scum. Pirate Mafia. Big push on aa-dono on D2 which got ended when the hosts accidentally sent me a results PM that wasn't mine and had to be repped out. She was mafia. What's the common factor in all of these games beside really hard pushed to get people lynched? I was town in all of them. Sometimes, I'm just really confident in my reads. Denja was just that scummy. You need to stop seeing everything I do as scummy. Everything I have done can be explained from a town mindset because it was all done by a townie. Not to be a debbie downer, but what does any of this have to do with the specific train of this game? Though i doubt kits reasoning because unless your actually scum no one would have predicted that ability i for have never seen that role lol. Only thing i do know is u always push ur votes really hard. Im just waiting to hear more about your role before i make a decision. Also wanna see who dies at night i would assume it be either logic or grrr. But u make it seem like he pushed that train harder than the rest, he even made an accidental tie by trying to make the sure the votes wouldnt be tied, that is enough evidence to explain why he pushed the votes on denja so hard. Thats the only reason i dont find it strange. |
Apr 28, 2017 9:48 PM
#3656
Kit said: Shinichi-Kun said: hmm :/ point takenKit said: Shinichi-Kun said: that's the pointPentaFlare said: Kit said: i wish i could vote penta again right now for trying to get townies onto denja's train................ >_> You want to play the meta game with your read on me? Here's some food for thought: Pushed really hard for a lynch against Claire on D1 in Shounen Crossover. She flipped scum. Stardust Crusaders Mafia. Had to push really hard to gather enough votes to pass the majority threshold needed for the lynch despite a lot of people suspecting me for trying so hard to get a lynch on Day 1. Corpse Party. Started a train on Shinichi near the end of the phase and pushed super hard to get him lynched instead of the other leading trains. He was then uninformed scum. Pirate Mafia. Big push on aa-dono on D2 which got ended when the hosts accidentally sent me a results PM that wasn't mine and had to be repped out. She was mafia. What's the common factor in all of these games beside really hard pushed to get people lynched? I was town in all of them. Sometimes, I'm just really confident in my reads. Denja was just that scummy. You need to stop seeing everything I do as scummy. Everything I have done can be explained from a town mindset because it was all done by a townie. Not to be a debbie downer, but what does any of this have to do with the specific train of this game? Though i doubt kits reasoning because unless your actually scum no one would have predicted that ability i for have never seen that role lol. Only thing i do know is u always push ur votes really hard. Im just waiting to hear more about your role before i make a decision. Also wanna see who dies at night i would assume it be either logic or grrr. But u make it seem like he pushed that train harder than the rest, he even made an accidental tie by trying to make the sure the votes wouldnt be tied, that is enough evidence to explain why he pushed the votes on denja so hard. Thats the only reason i dont find it strange. still skeptical of penta lol but thats because the pull is getting quite small for scum . |
Apr 28, 2017 10:26 PM
#3657
| So what am I doing tonight? Am I wasting my last shot? |
Apr 29, 2017 1:59 AM
#3658
Shinichi-Kun said: I am also glad when it is one of you but for different reasons : D . Suzune-chan said: Night 4 Dazai stood at gunpoint with the person looking to kill him. He was inhumanly calm considering the situation. The gun bearer began to feel nervous, what if this was the wrong choice. "Can you see the delighted look in my eyes. You are about to give me what I have always wanted." Dazai took a step into the shooter, shortening the range making the shot guaranteed to land. "But alas, for the great joy you are bringing me, little did you know that you were going to come with me." A sniper rifle round could be seen on the chest of the firer. "By taking out me, you take out yourself. Think we get to die together. You know I always hoped to die with a pretty woman, but you will have to do. Evil expects evil after all." Both guns fired. Two dead. DenjaX and Coelestin have died Denja was: Character: Osamu Dazai "But, it cannot be a lovers suicide if I do it by myself" Ability: No Longer Human Dazai is certain that he will die. In fact he actively tries to find both meaning and death. As such, you are Ascetic meaning you cannot be targeted by abilities other then killing shots. You are also a Supersaint meaning the final person on your lynch train when the timer stops will die with you. Because it cannot be a lovers suicide without a lover. Win Condition: Mafia: You win when you outnumber the town and the third party has been eliminated. Coelestin was Character: Atsushi Nakajima "What's better then being alive?" Ability: Beast Beneath the Moonlight The strength of your ability is limited to your control. However, everyone wants a little bit of that power. You are the Innocent Child however, it comes with a modifier. You can call Innocent Child anytime you want by posting in the topic. Reveal: Innocent Child at that point I will make a post confirming it. Naturally everyone will then know you are town. So use it strategically. Win Condition: Town: You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive. Please send night actions at your leisure. When does the night end @Logic340, @Sleipnirr, @Shinichi-Kun, @Kit, @Aa-dono, @DenjaX, @Jackrito, @Grrr, @Karote, @Pentaflare, @LucianRoy, @Coelestin, @Qoco no offense but im glad it was chione i would have been happy if it was me too but sincne me and her cant do much without roles now was way better for us to die |
Apr 29, 2017 2:08 AM
#3659
aa-dono said: Coelestin said: "Uhh..." bishop logic looks into the the distance. There was knight Qoco at the edge. "Shouldn't we help him as well?" Everyone shrugs. @aa-dono I am not sure what this is but I bet you would eat it if it is cooked well. |
Apr 29, 2017 2:15 AM
#3660
PentaClaire said: 1. I'm town vengeful. If you lynch me I've got my brutal aimed at Karote. 2. I'm virgin. Lynch me and there is no night kill. 3. I'm a 1-Shot Vigilante who can not shoot day 1 and was roleblocked last night. 4. I'm a tracker who has been tracking grrr every phase to see whether the nurse claim is justified and have not seen them perform an action. 5. I'm a mason with a top secret mason buddy. 6. I'm a mayor that hasn't revealed because I haven't been under significant pressure. Once I reveal I will be unable to be protected from death, implying there is a doctor but no strongman. 7. I am a town roleblocker who has blocked grrr every phase to see what will happen. 8. I'm a spy and have gotten snippets of the mafia conversation about who they think they can mislynch, which clears grrr, but was roleblocked night 2 and heard nothing. 9. I'm a 1-Shot lie detector and verified grrr's Nurse claim. 10. I'm a type of vanilla cop that can determine whether someone attempted to perform an action last night and have determined that neither grrr nor Ruu attempted actions. 11. I'm the real transporter, but it is a 2-shot ability I haven't used yet. 12. I'm an odd day doublevoter. 13. I'm a special type of doctor that can only stop attempted suicides instead of night kills but do not know what kind of ability would cause that. 14. I'm a martyr that will die in place of my target and has a 50% chance of revealing the killer. 15. I'm a vanilla town. Can people write their name here in case they can disprove any of penta's claims: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 - Grrr 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 |
Apr 29, 2017 2:20 AM
#3661
| [quote=grrr message=50529431] PentaClaire said: 1. I'm town vengeful. If you lynch me I've got my brutal aimed at Karote. 2. I'm virgin. Lynch me and there is no night kill. 3. I'm a 1-Shot Vigilante who can not shoot day 1 and was roleblocked last night. 5. I'm a mason with a top secret mason buddy. 8. I'm a spy and have gotten snippets of the mafia conversation about who they think they can mislynch, which clears grrr, but was roleblocked night 2 and heard nothing. 14. I'm a martyr that will die in place of my target and has a 50% chance of revealing the killer. I find this the most believable. I dismissed the tracking ones as nurse can't use ability before doc die so tracking me makes no sense (there were 2 tracking me claims) |
Apr 29, 2017 4:22 AM
#3662
grrr said: No. I won't eat Stitch! aa-dono said: Coelestin said: "Uhh..." bishop logic looks into the the distance. There was knight Qoco at the edge. "Shouldn't we help him as well?" Everyone shrugs. @aa-dono I am not sure what this is but I bet you would eat it if it is cooked well. Except if I don't know that they are serving me Stitch. But that's not my fault :D |
Apr 29, 2017 4:23 AM
#3663
grrr said: PentaClaire said: 1. I'm town vengeful. If you lynch me I've got my brutal aimed at Karote. 2. I'm virgin. Lynch me and there is no night kill. 3. I'm a 1-Shot Vigilante who can not shoot day 1 and was roleblocked last night. 4. I'm a tracker who has been tracking grrr every phase to see whether the nurse claim is justified and have not seen them perform an action. 5. I'm a mason with a top secret mason buddy. 6. I'm a mayor that hasn't revealed because I haven't been under significant pressure. Once I reveal I will be unable to be protected from death, implying there is a doctor but no strongman. 7. I am a town roleblocker who has blocked grrr every phase to see what will happen. 8. I'm a spy and have gotten snippets of the mafia conversation about who they think they can mislynch, which clears grrr, but was roleblocked night 2 and heard nothing. 9. I'm a 1-Shot lie detector and verified grrr's Nurse claim. 10. I'm a type of vanilla cop that can determine whether someone attempted to perform an action last night and have determined that neither grrr nor Ruu attempted actions. 11. I'm the real transporter, but it is a 2-shot ability I haven't used yet. 12. I'm an odd day doublevoter. 13. I'm a special type of doctor that can only stop attempted suicides instead of night kills but do not know what kind of ability would cause that. 14. I'm a martyr that will die in place of my target and has a 50% chance of revealing the killer. 15. I'm a vanilla town. Can people write their name here in case they can disprove any of penta's claims: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 - Grrr 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 I can disprove one of the claim but I'm not willing to say which. Edit: Lol PentaClaire xD |
Apr 29, 2017 7:38 AM
#3664
Qoco said: So what am I doing tonight? Am I wasting my last shot? Yes. Use it. |
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Apr 29, 2017 7:40 AM
#3665
aa-dono said: grrr said: PentaClaire said: 1. I'm town vengeful. If you lynch me I've got my brutal aimed at Karote. 2. I'm virgin. Lynch me and there is no night kill. 3. I'm a 1-Shot Vigilante who can not shoot day 1 and was roleblocked last night. 4. I'm a tracker who has been tracking grrr every phase to see whether the nurse claim is justified and have not seen them perform an action. 5. I'm a mason with a top secret mason buddy. 6. I'm a mayor that hasn't revealed because I haven't been under significant pressure. Once I reveal I will be unable to be protected from death, implying there is a doctor but no strongman. 7. I am a town roleblocker who has blocked grrr every phase to see what will happen. 8. I'm a spy and have gotten snippets of the mafia conversation about who they think they can mislynch, which clears grrr, but was roleblocked night 2 and heard nothing. 9. I'm a 1-Shot lie detector and verified grrr's Nurse claim. 10. I'm a type of vanilla cop that can determine whether someone attempted to perform an action last night and have determined that neither grrr nor Ruu attempted actions. 11. I'm the real transporter, but it is a 2-shot ability I haven't used yet. 12. I'm an odd day doublevoter. 13. I'm a special type of doctor that can only stop attempted suicides instead of night kills but do not know what kind of ability would cause that. 14. I'm a martyr that will die in place of my target and has a 50% chance of revealing the killer. 15. I'm a vanilla town. Can people write their name here in case they can disprove any of penta's claims: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 - Grrr 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 I can disprove one of the claim but I'm not willing to say which. Edit: Lol PentaClaire xD Of course you won't say which. You can disprove #8 because you know that you never talked about grrr in the Night 1 mafia chat, right? |
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Apr 29, 2017 8:05 AM
#3666
| So I would like for people to look over my night 1 interactions with Grapefruit while talking about Ruu. Grapefruit gave me a really easy town read for my position on Lam then wants to take it away for my position on Ruu. I just feel like he gave me a town read way to easily and then took it away for a bad reason. Edit: I couldn't talk about it then either because I was in an ongoing game but I was teammates with scum!Ruu in Sailor Moon Mafia that just finished and really don't feel like that is what I was seeing here. |
logic340Apr 29, 2017 8:26 AM
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Apr 29, 2017 9:27 AM
#3667
PentaFlare said: Lol are you still expecting a yes or no after I said I'm not gonna say which? What bold fishing.You can disprove #8 because you know that you never talked about grrr in the Night 1 mafia chat, right? |
Apr 29, 2017 11:00 AM
#3668
| @Sleipnirr I would really like to hear from you. |
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Apr 29, 2017 12:38 PM
#3669
| Where is everyone? Scum out...Scum out...wherever you are? |
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Apr 29, 2017 12:41 PM
#3670
Apr 29, 2017 12:46 PM
#3671
| @Kit What are you thoughts on Grapefruit/Sleipnirr? Does my early game look town to you? Grapefruit appears to be whiteknighting me hard early before switching to a more neutral read later. |
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Apr 29, 2017 12:52 PM
#3672
logic340 said: Personally I just don't really think grape/sleip is scum but it could be i didn't pay enough attention to them. @Kit What are you thoughts on Grapefruit/Sleipnirr? Does my early game look town to you? Grapefruit appears to be whiteknighting me hard early before switching to a more neutral read later. I don't think your early game screams town or anything. the white knighting could be worth looking into but it could be he just jumped the ball and changed his mind too |
Apr 29, 2017 1:02 PM
#3673
Kit said: His only real scum read has been Ruu and that really came after the Miller claim. Besides that he harped on scum grrr for pretty much all of D1. A little suspicion of Shinichi for his playing along with grrr and Qoco for not RVS voting?logic340 said: Personally I just don't really think grape/sleip is scum but it could be i didn't pay enough attention to them. @Kit What are you thoughts on Grapefruit/Sleipnirr? Does my early game look town to you? Grapefruit appears to be whiteknighting me hard early before switching to a more neutral read later. I don't think your early game screams town or anything. the white knighting could be worth looking into but it could be he just jumped the ball and changed his mind too |
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Apr 29, 2017 1:04 PM
#3674
| I am working on a Greapfruit/Sleipnirr ISO now @Kit could you look into Lam_B interactions D1 and D2 please? I will try to do Denja |
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Apr 29, 2017 1:07 PM
#3675
| @Kit who are your top three scum reads right now? |
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Apr 29, 2017 1:40 PM
#3676
| @grrr do not protect me tonight I have a special surprise for anyone who visits me. |
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Apr 29, 2017 1:45 PM
#3677
| @Shinichi-kun aa-dono or Grapefruit/Sleipnirr who is scummier? |
logic340Apr 29, 2017 1:49 PM
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Apr 29, 2017 2:52 PM
#3678
| @aa-dono thoughts on Sleipnirr and Penta who is scummier to you? |
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Apr 29, 2017 3:27 PM
#3679
logic340 said: okaay i tried speed reading some of D1 and N1 lamb posts (and looked at some grape posts while i was at it) seems he interacted with most people, criticized some ppl we know are town like grrr (using kitty to his advantage saying grrr should be lynched)... he doesn't seem to interact with Qoco or Penta much at all, and only a little bit with Grape.I am working on a Greapfruit/Sleipnirr ISO now @Kit could you look into Lam_B interactions D1 and D2 please? I will try to do Denja looking at grapes posts i still feel like he's town. it's not too different from how he normally plays, he gets kind of aggressive toward his scum reads and can be very wrong/tunnel hard also i know it's only one thing but would scum grape make a comment like this to his scum bud? https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1607887&show=600#msg50413332 |
Apr 29, 2017 3:31 PM
#3680
Kit said: This is what I got on grape and sleiplogic340 said: okaay i tried speed reading some of D1 and N1 lamb posts (and looked at some grape posts while i was at it) seems he interacted with most people, criticized some ppl we know are town like grrr (using kitty to his advantage saying grrr should be lynched)... he doesn't seem to interact with Qoco or Penta much at all, and only a little bit with Grape.I am working on a Greapfruit/Sleipnirr ISO now @Kit could you look into Lam_B interactions D1 and D2 please? I will try to do Denja looking at grapes posts i still feel like he's town. it's not too different from how he normally plays, he gets kind of aggressive toward his scum reads and can be very wrong/tunnel hard also i know it's only one thing but would scum grape make a comment like this to his scum bud? https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1607887&show=600#msg50413332 Grapefruit: Day 1: #42 - Votes Qoco for not participating in RVS. #70 - Asks Shinichi why the early train is sketchy, tells grrr that is an aweful lot of fluff to justify an RVS vote. #78 - Agrees with just about everything Penta is saying on a theory level. Makes him want to town read Penta and vote Shinichi but he's learned his lesson. Vaguely town reads Lucian and CP suspicious of Qoco and grrr. #81 - Explains his suspicions to Purity. Qoco is active but not voting. Nothing reads wrong but he doesn't like it. Says grrr feels forced in #56 which he isn't used to from grrr in RVS. #92 - Explains his reasoning to Lucian. grrr is within his scum meta and he has no meta on Qoco hasn't played with him before. Asks me why I would find a blank vote from grrr more alarming than what he's done here. #174 - Explains to Coeslesting why he doesn't like not participating in RVS, he likes Purity's tone and style, tells grrrr that they have different definitions of weird roles. Votes grrr #185 - Tells Lucian yes that was him in Haruhi. Tells Penta grrr is playing to meta, he will drop it for now, but will keep his eyes peeled. #194 - Asks Shinichi if we are ok with PR hunting so long as no one reveals their role? Asks if we are only worried about the results and not the process. Says he sees what Shinichi was saying about RVS but cannot agree with the PR hunting as he doesn't see it benefiting town. Asks what he thinks of grrr's RVS because he says it fits his scum meta. #198 - Hates asides but takes time to talk with Lucian about Mason roles. #212 - Tells Shinichi they cannot agree on anything philosophically. He says he finds any PR hunting D1 to be harmful to town. Says that with the high number of votes, the amount of fluff, it's about the scummiest thing he can find. #485 - Tells Jack that a scum read is a scum read and grrr doesn't strike him as the type to just lay down. Says his read on Lucian is tonal as he projected confidence and got a quick wagon going. Explains that Purity seems to do things the same way he did in Kitty mafia. Tells Purity he considers grrr's vote on Penta role fishing. Tells grrr he is not going to reveal anything about his role D1. #487 - Tells dono her vote doesn't seem to fit her read on Lucian. Tells Ruu that her case on Lucian is built around his defensiveness and what about his other posts. #493 - Agrees with Coelestin's points but says they actually point to town logic. Tells me he sees shades of LQ mafia where Lam was town in Lam's play. His town read on Lam is based on scum grrr world and Qoco hasn't done anything to change Grapefruit's read on him. #496 - Proclaims the post he quoted is town logic. Says I am stubborn and ignore facts as scum but not in this way? Asks Coelestin if she feels his reads are flimsy and that he feel he's explained them enough. Defends me some more. Asks why people are still giving grrr what he want. #498 - Disagree's with Purity's meta read on me saying I was very emotional in Alcatraz. Tells Lucian he has good vibes from Jack but knows Jack can fool him. Asks who Lucian would check if he was a day cop. #500 - Asks Penta his experience with Coelestin seeing as he's confident he can read her. Ruu and CP looking at RVS pushes at a surface level confuses him. Asks Shinichi who his top 3 town reads are and asks Qoco if he is going to vote now since we are well out of RVS. #504 - Accuses Shinichi of giving grrr what he wants. Says that Says Shinichi saying he sees not benefit or harm is a contradiction. Asks for reasoning on his town reads he can see Coelestin but not the other 2. #506 - Says he didn't see Qoco's vote and to disregard his question. Asks Lucian how he feel about dono's vote on him. #512 - Tells Purity he hasn't reread Alcatraz but he seems to remember me going full emotional. He may be biased but he feels confident others pointed it out as well. #520 - Tells dono he doesn't see why #194 would change her read either way. Says that the post doesn't clarify his reads on anyone but grrr. Doesn't dislike Lucian staying on grrr. Tell Shinich he and Purity were talking about me and the part about jack was only relevant to what was posted about Jack. Accuses Shinichi of contradicting himself by answering grrr's question. #522 - Asks Qoco if he is saying what he said about me to confirm I am emotional town. #530 - Work is ending he wont be around much tonight but will be around tomorrow. #532 - Tells Shinichi he's likely to be scum for playing along when he had expressed he felt it was unhelpful. #534 - Questions Ruu's reasoning for her vote and hopes she puts out a proper case. Says it seems she starts working before she knows anything about the person she is talking about. #608 - #612 - #628 - #631 - #632 - #710 - Votes Shinichi, agrees that grrr is probably town given his claim, says he would vote Ruu but he feels better about Shinichi. Asks grrr why he is scum, says he hasn't seen a case, asks who his town reads are. #714 - #717 - Tells grrr he was scum in Kitty mafia and didn't have to work Grapefruit out. Asks me how I feel about the top trains. Night 1: #852 - Apologizes for missing phase change. Will catch up later but no promises. #809 - Asks me what scum Qoco has to gain from lying. Asks everyone how bold Coelestin is as scum. Feels better about Shinichi #897 - #899 - Thanks Penta for the link to a Coelestin scum game. #948 - #957 - #959 - Day 2: #1131 - Votes Ruu #1136 - #1137 - #1138 - #1141 - #1143 - #1147 - Mini dono ISO #1148 - #1160 - #1164 - #1167 - #1168 - #1173 - #1177 - #1180 - #1184 - #1188 - #1305 - #1307 - #1310 - #1316 - #1317 - #1318 - #1347 - #1350 - #1353 - #1357 - #1360 - #1367 - #1469 - #1472 - #1481 - #1482 - #1484 - Getting emotional he is going to step away for a minute #1489 - #1498 - #1500 - #1509 - #1518 - #1522 - #1538 - #1541 - Unvotes #1552 - #1634 - Votes Karote feels like he is less likely to be scum than Ruu/Abu but feels bad lynching new replacement. Karote has done little to convince him they are town. #1640 - Night 2: #1896 - #1898 - #1899 - Day 3: #1952 - #1975 - #2028 - #2033 - #2036 - #2038 - #2040 - #2061 - #2071 - #2072 - #2074 - #2090 - #2093 - #2094 - #2099 - #2105 - #2117 - #2155 - #2306 - Doesn't understand grrr play this game, understands mine even less, says not much changed though a lot happened, and Votes Kit #2307 - Says grrr has never explained the read on him past the claim thing. #2318 - #2338 - Says we can rule out #15 #2345 - Asks Qoco to talk to him about Denja and Dono #2363 - Cannot post tonight but will be on around phase change #2693 - #2694 - Sliepnirr: Nightt 3: #2769 - #2771 - #2812 - #2815 - Day 4: #3008 - #3182 - #3188 - #3192 - #3194 - #3202 - #3206 - #3207 - #3209 - #3210 - #3214 - #3215 - His phone battery is dying he will be back in a few hours. Night 4: Silence.... Thoughts on Grapefruit: #185 - Tells Penta he will back off grrr #194 - Right back at grrr in his next post with Shinichi. I also disagree with Grapefruit's scum meta for grrr. I saw his early game more as his town meta. Mudslinging is what I think he was doing here trying to set up an easy mislynch. #212 - Sounds more like he grasping at reasons and trying to paint him as scum as opposed to hunting scum? #493 - Scum!grrr world likely doesn't exist which either screwed his read or he was protecting Lam? #534 - Major mudslinging if Kit/Ruu flips town. #710 - I find this post one of the most interesting. He is asking grrr for a case as to why Grapefruit is scum but grrr rarely gives this type of information with his vote. Matter of fact he voted me 5 days in a row in a game and wasn't questioned like this about his vote. Maybe because it's actually happening to Grapefruit but I find this post out of place for him since he never really questions grrr like this and knows what to expect in response. #717 - Asked me how I felt about the top trains yet doesn't get on one of them himself? #809 - This question is self answering what do scum get from lying about things? Like really wish I would have looked deeper into the question before. I feel it serves 2 purposes. 1. To make Grapefruit look busy and 2. To make me look bad for my view on Qoco. Thoughts on Sleipnirr: |
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Apr 29, 2017 3:33 PM
#3681
| @Kit to answer your question about buddies, yes I do think he would ask something like that. Especially with how hard he tunneled grrr only to switch abruptly with the claim and the fact that Lam-B (scum teammate) vote was sitting there. |
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Apr 29, 2017 3:34 PM
#3682
Kit said: logic340 said: Personally I just don't really think grape/sleip is scum but it could be i didn't pay enough attention to them. @Kit What are you thoughts on Grapefruit/Sleipnirr? Does my early game look town to you? Grapefruit appears to be whiteknighting me hard early before switching to a more neutral read later. I don't think your early game screams town or anything. the white knighting could be worth looking into but it could be he just jumped the ball and changed his mind too Grapefruit21 said: Coelestin said: Logic is reacting way too harshly to Lamby's posts. Like waaaaaaay to harshly. Lamby actually makes some good points if you read along the lines and not just use confirmation bias. Vote: Logic340 @logic340 Please don't let me down. What are your other suspicions? While I agree with all of the stated facts, I disagree with the conclusion. This that read of Lamby screamed town logic to me. @logic340 on your Lam-b case, I see where you are seeing Kitty mafia, but I also see shades of LQ where Lam-b was town. I'm leaning slightly town at this stage, but that is based on a scum!grrr world. As for your Qoco question they haven't done anything to change my opinioin which reset to null when I was told they often don't place an RVS vote. I don't think they'd posted since I started my catch up post. Grapefruit21 said: logic340 said: LucianRoy said: logic340 said: LucianRoy said: Why do you think Shinichi and Coelestin feel the need to bully me with their votes? Trying to get me to play the way they want me to by voting me rather than figure out why I am doing what I am doing so far. Also Shinichi has played with me recently and knows full well why I am being more reserved than normal. Coelestin probably remembers a very aggressive heavy posting logic (well kitty mafia has changed that after I lynched off 4 town teammate while leading the lynch basically every day). My voice leads to a lot of townie deaths and I am trying to minimize those casualties while I get better at acutely catching scum.@grr, why do you feel the need to bully shinichi and penta into answering your question with your vote? I fail to see why these people are scum because they didn't answer you. Nobody is bullying you. Their votes are good and have actual reasons to back them. Grr is literally voting for the sole reason people haven't answered his silly question. That's defined as bullying because he's applying pressure to make them do a certain action, like get them to answer his open Question when they said they wouldnt. It's similar to if someone was getting voted because they had to play a certain way etc. Chione isn't commanding you to do anything, she saw your vote on lamb as an overreaction. I forget what shins vote was, but enh. This is probably a town logic post... He was stubborn and ignored facts as scum, but not this way. This feels much more like his traditional town doubling down seen in FT or Kitty. @Coelstein I feel like I've explained my reads on Lucian and CPurity a few times, do you still find them flimsy? And holy crap all of that crap about logic was a slog to read... Yes logic is being difficult, but he's doing it in a way he usually does as town. I'm done scum reading him for it, pretty much cost town a game win we should have had in Kitty mafia.... And WHY ON EARTH ARE PEOPLE STILL GIVING GRRR WHAT HE WANTS I'm looking at you Shinichi. Grapefruit21 said: @logic340 every time you lynch anyone you risk a town dead on the ground. Anyway you never answered my question about what scum Qoco gets from lying. I see the fact you are pointing out, but I don't see how that lie is scum motivated. Anyway if I don't wake up: Logic is probably always town here, jack and Penta have been largely town as well and shouldn't be looked at yet. If Ruu survives the night they need to die. Assuming the vig follows through I'm very interested in Shinichi, Qoco, grrr, and Rosie off wagon as a fall back, but would rather try to start with the wagon and see where some pressure leads us. This is what my D1 with Grapefruit was like and into N1. |
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Apr 29, 2017 3:40 PM
#3683
logic340 said: hm i just felt like it was unnecessarily pointing out something scummy a team mate did (defending someone they are voting)@Kit to answer your question about buddies, yes I do think he would ask something like that. Especially with how hard he tunneled grrr only to switch abruptly with the claim and the fact that Lam-B (scum teammate) vote was sitting there. |
Apr 29, 2017 3:46 PM
#3684
Kit said: I wouldn't call what he did defense? He scum read grrr hard AF all D1 for role fishing. Instantaneously switches his read with grrr's nurse claim? Lam's only vote was on grrr made the train 4 long with possibly 2 scum on it? I don't think the question is two pointed considering all the work Grapefruit has put into grrr at that point only to have to move because Lam sat there until end phase.logic340 said: hm i just felt like it was unnecessarily pointing out something scummy a team mate did (defending someone they are voting)@Kit to answer your question about buddies, yes I do think he would ask something like that. Especially with how hard he tunneled grrr only to switch abruptly with the claim and the fact that Lam-B (scum teammate) vote was sitting there. Working theory... |
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Apr 29, 2017 3:50 PM
#3685
Kit said: Grapefruit was voting grrr and pursing him as scum read, plus they are both voting grrr at this time what is grapefruit even talking about?logic340 said: okaay i tried speed reading some of D1 and N1 lamb posts (and looked at some grape posts while i was at it) seems he interacted with most people, criticized some ppl we know are town like grrr (using kitty to his advantage saying grrr should be lynched)... he doesn't seem to interact with Qoco or Penta much at all, and only a little bit with Grape.I am working on a Greapfruit/Sleipnirr ISO now @Kit could you look into Lam_B interactions D1 and D2 please? I will try to do Denja looking at grapes posts i still feel like he's town. it's not too different from how he normally plays, he gets kind of aggressive toward his scum reads and can be very wrong/tunnel hard also i know it's only one thing but would scum grape make a comment like this to his scum bud? https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1607887&show=600#msg50413332 |
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Apr 29, 2017 3:54 PM
#3686
| @Shinichi-kun thoughts on Grape/Sleip? |
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Apr 29, 2017 3:56 PM
#3687
| My top 3 suspects sleip/dono/penta |
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Apr 29, 2017 3:58 PM
#3688
Apr 29, 2017 4:02 PM
#3689
Day 5 Ideal was everything. Kunikida was a man of his ideals. Watching his beset friend die yesterday had been difficult. He had always suspected the darkness in Dazai, but this. Kunikida knew now was not the time to be depressed. It was the time to take action. It was the time to save everyone else. He was most people's senior at the Detective Agency now was his time to act like it. The night was dark. The night is owned by the mafia in this town. ------------------ Night was approaching. It was just a normal day for Oda. If he kept his head down and did not have to shoot anyone then there would be no reason for trouble. By not killing anyone he kept his right to be an author. An author tells the story of another and only those who do not kill others have the write to create people. Or so he believed. ------------------ Meeting in the alley Kunikida faced off against Oda. A battle of men with ideals A battle of man with goals A battle neither would walk home from. Kunikida's notebook would fall to the ground leaving pages of blank, never filled with text. Similar to the novel Oda would never write. "People live to save themselves" Logic340 and Sleipnirr have died Double knock out Logic340 was: Character: Doppo Kunikida "Oh that is good advice, I am going to have to write it down."' Ability: Lone Poet Let's face it, poetry is hard. Not to mention that sometimes no one will appreciate you. Lucky for you, you have a whole bag of one shot tricks up your sleeve. Just in case you get a flash of inspiration and have to write it down. You have the following abilities, one shot doctor, one shot cop, one shot vigilante, one shot double voter What can I say, you are just a Jack of all trades. Always carry a pencil with you, good advice is hard to find. Win Condition: Town: You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive. Sleipnirr was Character: Sakunosuke Oda "People exist to save themselves" Ability: Flawless You are soft. You will not harm anyone else unless someone is in danger. It is for this reason you are the Reverse Miller everyone assumes then that you must be a good guy. With your good people skills you can befriend even the wariest of foes. However, since you are Flawless you are able to pick up little tricks from those around you. You have a One shot Informed ability, if someone targets you the night you use this then you can learn what kind of ability has targeted you. Win Condition: Mafia: You win when you outnumber the town and the third party has been eliminated. Phase is currently set at 48 hours. If all can agree, we will move it to 24 let me know. When's the night? @Logic340, @Sleipnirr, @Shinichi-Kun, @Kit, @Aa-dono, @Jackrito, @Grrr, @Karote, @Pentaflare, @LucianRoy, @Qoco |
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Apr 29, 2017 4:03 PM
#3690
Kit said: Why Qoco? Even I who was his biggest critic have backed off of that stance?penta, qoco, and then i suppose dono |
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Apr 29, 2017 4:04 PM
#3691
Apr 29, 2017 4:05 PM
#3692
logic340 said: i'm going to pretend you said that before you died. Just don't like his claim and interactions with other scums (like i said, lamb didn't seem to interact with him at all, idk if denja did)Why Qoco? Even I who was his biggest critic have backed off of that stance? |
Apr 29, 2017 4:05 PM
#3693
Apr 29, 2017 4:07 PM
#3694
| @pentaflare in honor of logic, i'm going to ask you if you will do another algorithm thing with the new town (logic) and scum (grape/sleip), because I know it's what he would want edit: but i'll make me sad if you include yourself as confirmed town yet again |
Apr 29, 2017 4:14 PM
#3695
Apr 29, 2017 4:15 PM
#3696
Apr 29, 2017 4:16 PM
#3697
Apr 29, 2017 4:16 PM
#3698
Apr 29, 2017 4:19 PM
#3699
Apr 29, 2017 4:21 PM
#3700
| Since scum was a reverse miller I think it is more likely Kit is a actual miller since reverse roles are common to a real one, Also glad that is another scum down wish logic did not die though assume he did the kill unless we have another vig. For where we go next I would say Quco or Penta since I personally still think Dono is town I know most don't, since everyone else is in my view cleared. Not sure on which out of the two though. |
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