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Apr 28, 2017 9:09 PM

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logic340 said:
@Sleipnirr I would really like to hear from you.
Grapefruit looks even worse due to the flip so if you're not scum it's time to start showing it.

@Shinichi-kun I don't take Sleipnirr's long catch up as town motivated. I actually see it as him BSing us as scum. In the first game I played with him he subbed in late and without back reading was able to figure out Penta was scum after he had pocketed everyone. Now I am not putting the burden of prophecy on him but he could share some thoughts. Last time he posted he said he was around page 40 I believe that is more than enough to give some thoughts like kit. Also I will not take Denja's push for a Modkill as evidence of his innocence as by the time Denja started proposing that he had met the minimum for this phase.


Denja could have sheeped sleipnirr to save his own behind its def possible, and i dont particular town read him i just want more from him before i decide anything.


Apr 28, 2017 9:10 PM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
PentaFlare said:

You want to play the meta game with your read on me? Here's some food for thought:
Pushed really hard for a lynch against Claire on D1 in Shounen Crossover. She flipped scum.
Stardust Crusaders Mafia. Had to push really hard to gather enough votes to pass the majority threshold needed for the lynch despite a lot of people suspecting me for trying so hard to get a lynch on Day 1.
Corpse Party. Started a train on Shinichi near the end of the phase and pushed super hard to get him lynched instead of the other leading trains. He was then uninformed scum.
Pirate Mafia. Big push on aa-dono on D2 which got ended when the hosts accidentally sent me a results PM that wasn't mine and had to be repped out. She was mafia.
What's the common factor in all of these games beside really hard pushed to get people lynched? I was town in all of them. Sometimes, I'm just really confident in my reads. Denja was just that scummy. You need to stop seeing everything I do as scummy. Everything I have done can be explained from a town mindset because it was all done by a townie.


Not to be a debbie downer, but what does any of this have to do with the specific train of this game? Though i doubt kits reasoning because unless your actually scum no one would have predicted that ability i for have never seen that role lol.

Only thing i do know is u always push ur votes really hard.

Im just waiting to hear more about your role before i make a decision. Also wanna see who dies at night i would assume it be either logic or grrr.
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PentaFlare said:
Question to leave for everyone before I go to sleep. Is anyone opposed to lynching aa-dono? If so, why? I could really easily see them as a team based on their treatment of each other.


If u can fine posts that confirm that statement that would help but i do already plan to vote her anyways


Apr 28, 2017 9:12 PM

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Kit said:
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Not to be a debbie downer, but what does any of this have to do with the specific train of this game? Though i doubt kits reasoning because unless your actually scum no one would have predicted that ability i for have never seen that role lol.

Only thing i do know is u always push ur votes really hard.

Im just waiting to hear more about your role before i make a decision. Also wanna see who dies at night i would assume it be either logic or grrr.
that's the point


But u make it seem like he pushed that train harder than the rest, he even made an accidental tie by trying to make the sure the votes wouldnt be tied, that is enough evidence to explain why he pushed the votes on denja so hard. Thats the only reason i dont find it strange.


Apr 28, 2017 9:14 PM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
Kit said:
that's the point


But u make it seem like he pushed that train harder than the rest, he even made an accidental tie by trying to make the sure the votes wouldnt be tied, that is enough evidence to explain why he pushed the votes on denja so hard. Thats the only reason i dont find it strange.
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Apr 28, 2017 9:48 PM

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Kit said:
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But u make it seem like he pushed that train harder than the rest, he even made an accidental tie by trying to make the sure the votes wouldnt be tied, that is enough evidence to explain why he pushed the votes on denja so hard. Thats the only reason i dont find it strange.
hmm :/ point taken


still skeptical of penta lol but thats because the pull is getting quite small for scum .


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So what am I doing tonight? Am I wasting my last shot?
Apr 29, 2017 1:59 AM

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Night 4



Dazai stood at gunpoint with the person looking to kill him. He was inhumanly calm considering the situation. The gun bearer began to feel nervous, what if this was the wrong choice.

"Can you see the delighted look in my eyes. You are about to give me what I have always wanted."

Dazai took a step into the shooter, shortening the range making the shot guaranteed to land. "But alas, for the great joy you are bringing me, little did you know that you were going to come with me."

A sniper rifle round could be seen on the chest of the firer.

"By taking out me, you take out yourself. Think we get to die together. You know I always hoped to die with a pretty woman, but you will have to do. Evil expects evil after all."

Both guns fired.
Two dead.

DenjaX and Coelestin have died

Denja was:


Coelestin was


Please send night actions at your leisure.

When does the night end

@Logic340, @Sleipnirr, @Shinichi-Kun, @Kit, @Aa-dono, @DenjaX, @Jackrito, @Grrr, @Karote, @Pentaflare, @LucianRoy, @Coelestin, @Qoco



no offense but im glad it was chione i would have been happy if it was me too but sincne me and her cant do much without roles now was way better for us to die
I am also glad when it is one of you but for different reasons : D .
Apr 29, 2017 2:08 AM

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aa-dono said:
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@aa-dono I am not sure what this is but I bet you would eat it if it is cooked well.
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PentaClaire said:

1. I'm town vengeful. If you lynch me I've got my brutal aimed at Karote.
2. I'm virgin. Lynch me and there is no night kill.
3. I'm a 1-Shot Vigilante who can not shoot day 1 and was roleblocked last night.
4. I'm a tracker who has been tracking grrr every phase to see whether the nurse claim is justified and have not seen them perform an action.
5. I'm a mason with a top secret mason buddy.
6. I'm a mayor that hasn't revealed because I haven't been under significant pressure. Once I reveal I will be unable to be protected from death, implying there is a doctor but no strongman.
7. I am a town roleblocker who has blocked grrr every phase to see what will happen.
8. I'm a spy and have gotten snippets of the mafia conversation about who they think they can mislynch, which clears grrr, but was roleblocked night 2 and heard nothing.
9. I'm a 1-Shot lie detector and verified grrr's Nurse claim.
10. I'm a type of vanilla cop that can determine whether someone attempted to perform an action last night and have determined that neither grrr nor Ruu attempted actions.
11. I'm the real transporter, but it is a 2-shot ability I haven't used yet.
12. I'm an odd day doublevoter.
13. I'm a special type of doctor that can only stop attempted suicides instead of night kills but do not know what kind of ability would cause that.
14. I'm a martyr that will die in place of my target and has a 50% chance of revealing the killer.
15. I'm a vanilla town.


Can people write their name here in case they can disprove any of penta's claims:

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Apr 29, 2017 2:20 AM

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PentaClaire said:

1. I'm town vengeful. If you lynch me I've got my brutal aimed at Karote.
2. I'm virgin. Lynch me and there is no night kill.
3. I'm a 1-Shot Vigilante who can not shoot day 1 and was roleblocked last night.
5. I'm a mason with a top secret mason buddy.
8. I'm a spy and have gotten snippets of the mafia conversation about who they think they can mislynch, which clears grrr, but was roleblocked night 2 and heard nothing.
14. I'm a martyr that will die in place of my target and has a 50% chance of revealing the killer.


I find this the most believable. I dismissed the tracking ones as nurse can't use ability before doc die so tracking me makes no sense (there were 2 tracking me claims)
Apr 29, 2017 4:22 AM

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grrr said:
aa-dono said:

@aa-dono I am not sure what this is but I bet you would eat it if it is cooked well.
No. I won't eat Stitch!
Except if I don't know that they are serving me Stitch. But that's not my fault :D

Apr 29, 2017 4:23 AM

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grrr said:
PentaClaire said:

1. I'm town vengeful. If you lynch me I've got my brutal aimed at Karote.
2. I'm virgin. Lynch me and there is no night kill.
3. I'm a 1-Shot Vigilante who can not shoot day 1 and was roleblocked last night.
4. I'm a tracker who has been tracking grrr every phase to see whether the nurse claim is justified and have not seen them perform an action.
5. I'm a mason with a top secret mason buddy.
6. I'm a mayor that hasn't revealed because I haven't been under significant pressure. Once I reveal I will be unable to be protected from death, implying there is a doctor but no strongman.
7. I am a town roleblocker who has blocked grrr every phase to see what will happen.
8. I'm a spy and have gotten snippets of the mafia conversation about who they think they can mislynch, which clears grrr, but was roleblocked night 2 and heard nothing.
9. I'm a 1-Shot lie detector and verified grrr's Nurse claim.
10. I'm a type of vanilla cop that can determine whether someone attempted to perform an action last night and have determined that neither grrr nor Ruu attempted actions.
11. I'm the real transporter, but it is a 2-shot ability I haven't used yet.
12. I'm an odd day doublevoter.
13. I'm a special type of doctor that can only stop attempted suicides instead of night kills but do not know what kind of ability would cause that.
14. I'm a martyr that will die in place of my target and has a 50% chance of revealing the killer.
15. I'm a vanilla town.


Can people write their name here in case they can disprove any of penta's claims:

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7 - Grrr
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I can disprove one of the claim but I'm not willing to say which.

Edit: Lol PentaClaire xD

Apr 29, 2017 7:38 AM

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Qoco said:
So what am I doing tonight? Am I wasting my last shot?

Yes. Use it.
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Apr 29, 2017 7:40 AM

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aa-dono said:
grrr said:


Can people write their name here in case they can disprove any of penta's claims:

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I can disprove one of the claim but I'm not willing to say which.

Edit: Lol PentaClaire xD

Of course you won't say which. You can disprove #8 because you know that you never talked about grrr in the Night 1 mafia chat, right?
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Apr 29, 2017 8:05 AM

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So I would like for people to look over my night 1 interactions with Grapefruit while talking about Ruu. Grapefruit gave me a really easy town read for my position on Lam then wants to take it away for my position on Ruu. I just feel like he gave me a town read way to easily and then took it away for a bad reason.

Edit: I couldn't talk about it then either because I was in an ongoing game but I was teammates with scum!Ruu in Sailor Moon Mafia that just finished and really don't feel like that is what I was seeing here.
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Apr 29, 2017 9:27 AM

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PentaFlare said:
You can disprove #8 because you know that you never talked about grrr in the Night 1 mafia chat, right?
Lol are you still expecting a yes or no after I said I'm not gonna say which? What bold fishing.

Apr 29, 2017 11:00 AM

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@Sleipnirr I would really like to hear from you.
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Apr 29, 2017 12:38 PM

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Where is everyone?
Scum out...Scum out...wherever you are?
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Apr 29, 2017 12:41 PM

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logic340 said:
Where is everyone?
Scum out...Scum out...wherever you are?
i'm watching the thread but i have nothing to add .-. surprised there was so little posted while i was sleeping










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Apr 29, 2017 12:46 PM

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@Kit What are you thoughts on Grapefruit/Sleipnirr?
Does my early game look town to you? Grapefruit appears to be whiteknighting me hard early before switching to a more neutral read later.
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Apr 29, 2017 12:52 PM

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@Kit What are you thoughts on Grapefruit/Sleipnirr?
Does my early game look town to you? Grapefruit appears to be whiteknighting me hard early before switching to a more neutral read later.
Personally I just don't really think grape/sleip is scum but it could be i didn't pay enough attention to them.
I don't think your early game screams town or anything. the white knighting could be worth looking into but it could be he just jumped the ball and changed his mind too










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Apr 29, 2017 1:02 PM

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Kit said:
logic340 said:
@Kit What are you thoughts on Grapefruit/Sleipnirr?
Does my early game look town to you? Grapefruit appears to be whiteknighting me hard early before switching to a more neutral read later.
Personally I just don't really think grape/sleip is scum but it could be i didn't pay enough attention to them.
I don't think your early game screams town or anything. the white knighting could be worth looking into but it could be he just jumped the ball and changed his mind too
His only real scum read has been Ruu and that really came after the Miller claim. Besides that he harped on scum grrr for pretty much all of D1. A little suspicion of Shinichi for his playing along with grrr and Qoco for not RVS voting?
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I am working on a Greapfruit/Sleipnirr ISO now
@Kit could you look into Lam_B interactions D1 and D2 please?
I will try to do Denja
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Apr 29, 2017 1:07 PM

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@Kit who are your top three scum reads right now?
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Apr 29, 2017 1:40 PM

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@grrr do not protect me tonight I have a special surprise for anyone who visits me.
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Apr 29, 2017 1:45 PM

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@Shinichi-kun aa-dono or Grapefruit/Sleipnirr who is scummier?
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@aa-dono thoughts on Sleipnirr and Penta who is scummier to you?
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logic340 said:
I am working on a Greapfruit/Sleipnirr ISO now
@Kit could you look into Lam_B interactions D1 and D2 please?
I will try to do Denja
okaay i tried speed reading some of D1 and N1 lamb posts (and looked at some grape posts while i was at it) seems he interacted with most people, criticized some ppl we know are town like grrr (using kitty to his advantage saying grrr should be lynched)... he doesn't seem to interact with Qoco or Penta much at all, and only a little bit with Grape.

looking at grapes posts i still feel like he's town. it's not too different from how he normally plays, he gets kind of aggressive toward his scum reads and can be very wrong/tunnel hard

also i know it's only one thing but would scum grape make a comment like this to his scum bud?
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1607887&show=600#msg50413332










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Kit said:
logic340 said:
I am working on a Greapfruit/Sleipnirr ISO now
@Kit could you look into Lam_B interactions D1 and D2 please?
I will try to do Denja
okaay i tried speed reading some of D1 and N1 lamb posts (and looked at some grape posts while i was at it) seems he interacted with most people, criticized some ppl we know are town like grrr (using kitty to his advantage saying grrr should be lynched)... he doesn't seem to interact with Qoco or Penta much at all, and only a little bit with Grape.

looking at grapes posts i still feel like he's town. it's not too different from how he normally plays, he gets kind of aggressive toward his scum reads and can be very wrong/tunnel hard

also i know it's only one thing but would scum grape make a comment like this to his scum bud?
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1607887&show=600#msg50413332
This is what I got on grape and sleip

Grapefruit:


Sliepnirr:


Thoughts on Grapefruit:
#185 - Tells Penta he will back off grrr
#194 - Right back at grrr in his next post with Shinichi. I also disagree with Grapefruit's scum meta for grrr. I saw his early game more as his town meta. Mudslinging is what I think he was doing here trying to set up an easy mislynch.
#212 - Sounds more like he grasping at reasons and trying to paint him as scum as opposed to hunting scum?
#493 - Scum!grrr world likely doesn't exist which either screwed his read or he was protecting Lam?
#534 - Major mudslinging if Kit/Ruu flips town.

#710 - I find this post one of the most interesting. He is asking grrr for a case as to why Grapefruit is scum but grrr rarely gives this type of information with his vote. Matter of fact he voted me 5 days in a row in a game and wasn't questioned like this about his vote. Maybe because it's actually happening to Grapefruit but I find this post out of place for him since he never really questions grrr like this and knows what to expect in response.
#717 - Asked me how I felt about the top trains yet doesn't get on one of them himself?
#809 - This question is self answering what do scum get from lying about things? Like really wish I would have looked deeper into the question before. I feel it serves 2 purposes. 1. To make Grapefruit look busy and 2. To make me look bad for my view on Qoco.

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@Kit to answer your question about buddies, yes I do think he would ask something like that. Especially with how hard he tunneled grrr only to switch abruptly with the claim and the fact that Lam-B (scum teammate) vote was sitting there.
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Kit said:
logic340 said:
@Kit What are you thoughts on Grapefruit/Sleipnirr?
Does my early game look town to you? Grapefruit appears to be whiteknighting me hard early before switching to a more neutral read later.
Personally I just don't really think grape/sleip is scum but it could be i didn't pay enough attention to them.
I don't think your early game screams town or anything. the white knighting could be worth looking into but it could be he just jumped the ball and changed his mind too




This is what my D1 with Grapefruit was like and into N1.
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@Kit to answer your question about buddies, yes I do think he would ask something like that. Especially with how hard he tunneled grrr only to switch abruptly with the claim and the fact that Lam-B (scum teammate) vote was sitting there.
hm i just felt like it was unnecessarily pointing out something scummy a team mate did (defending someone they are voting)










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Kit said:
logic340 said:
@Kit to answer your question about buddies, yes I do think he would ask something like that. Especially with how hard he tunneled grrr only to switch abruptly with the claim and the fact that Lam-B (scum teammate) vote was sitting there.
hm i just felt like it was unnecessarily pointing out something scummy a team mate did (defending someone they are voting)
I wouldn't call what he did defense? He scum read grrr hard AF all D1 for role fishing. Instantaneously switches his read with grrr's nurse claim? Lam's only vote was on grrr made the train 4 long with possibly 2 scum on it? I don't think the question is two pointed considering all the work Grapefruit has put into grrr at that point only to have to move because Lam sat there until end phase.

Working theory...
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Kit said:
logic340 said:
I am working on a Greapfruit/Sleipnirr ISO now
@Kit could you look into Lam_B interactions D1 and D2 please?
I will try to do Denja
okaay i tried speed reading some of D1 and N1 lamb posts (and looked at some grape posts while i was at it) seems he interacted with most people, criticized some ppl we know are town like grrr (using kitty to his advantage saying grrr should be lynched)... he doesn't seem to interact with Qoco or Penta much at all, and only a little bit with Grape.

looking at grapes posts i still feel like he's town. it's not too different from how he normally plays, he gets kind of aggressive toward his scum reads and can be very wrong/tunnel hard

also i know it's only one thing but would scum grape make a comment like this to his scum bud?
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1607887&show=600#msg50413332
Grapefruit was voting grrr and pursing him as scum read, plus they are both voting grrr at this time what is grapefruit even talking about?
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@Shinichi-kun thoughts on Grape/Sleip?
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My top 3 suspects
sleip/dono/penta
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@Kit who are your top three scum reads right now?
penta, qoco, and then i suppose dono










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Day 5



Ideal was everything. Kunikida was a man of his ideals.

Watching his beset friend die yesterday had been difficult. He had always suspected the darkness in Dazai, but this. Kunikida knew now was not the time to be depressed. It was the time to take action. It was the time to save everyone else. He was most people's senior at the Detective Agency now was his time to act like it.

The night was dark. The night is owned by the mafia in this town.

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Night was approaching. It was just a normal day for Oda. If he kept his head down and did not have to shoot anyone then there would be no reason for trouble. By not killing anyone he kept his right to be an author. An author tells the story of another and only those who do not kill others have the write to create people. Or so he believed.

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Meeting in the alley Kunikida faced off against Oda.
A battle of men with ideals
A battle of man with goals
A battle neither would walk home from.

Kunikida's notebook would fall to the ground leaving pages of blank, never filled with text. Similar to the novel Oda would never write.
"People live to save themselves"

Logic340 and Sleipnirr have died
Double knock out

Logic340 was:


Sleipnirr was


Phase is currently set at 48 hours. If all can agree, we will move it to 24 let me know.
When's the night?


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Kit said:
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@Kit who are your top three scum reads right now?
penta, qoco, and then i suppose dono
Why Qoco? Even I who was his biggest critic have backed off of that stance?
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oh shit, you were right! gg logic, you will be remembered o7










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penta, qoco, and then i suppose dono
Why Qoco? Even I who was his biggest critic have backed off of that stance?
i'm going to pretend you said that before you died. Just don't like his claim and interactions with other scums (like i said, lamb didn't seem to interact with him at all, idk if denja did)










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vote: penta

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@pentaflare in honor of logic, i'm going to ask you if you will do another algorithm thing with the new town (logic) and scum (grape/sleip), because I know it's what he would want

edit: but i'll make me sad if you include yourself as confirmed town yet again










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1 shot doublt voter never seen that before

also da fuck is a reverse miller lol


Apr 29, 2017 4:15 PM

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im assuming logic shot sleipnirr cause he wasnt responding to him


Apr 29, 2017 4:16 PM

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vote:penta

hi hi welcome to the party, we are celebrating your death to come :D


Apr 29, 2017 4:16 PM

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Btw i wont change my vote penta till you claim i mean ik ur role but i want u to claim in public so ya ill be waiting


Apr 29, 2017 4:19 PM

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I want to lynch shinichi but he is so town so far ... not sure what to do ...
Apr 29, 2017 4:21 PM

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Since scum was a reverse miller I think it is more likely Kit is a actual miller since reverse roles are common to a real one, Also glad that is another scum down wish logic did not die though assume he did the kill unless we have another vig. For where we go next I would say Quco or Penta since I personally still think Dono is town I know most don't, since everyone else is in my view cleared. Not sure on which out of the two though.
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