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Nov 11, 2020 11:58 PM
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Maybe Sensei's artworks parallels whoever is getting the focus in the manga... hence more Arata lately :)

So I guess we're not even getting raws for this chapter? There's no one else except iathea-san to provide raws?

Yeah, Arata is the ideal person to teach them, not shady Taichi, haha. But the reason for not showing Arata could be the same as to why he wasn't invited to the Taichi cup. Also, she would have missed the chance to mention Sumire's love! hehe... But these are just guesses...

Detectives-sama!! Haha! Yeah, I realized that some panels don't match how I remembered them, so I checked and was right! Really good editing! :)

About the BG, I thought maybe you guys will have some explanation or expression attached to it. Like the starry BG or desperate, unhappy BG... And those two scenes are pretty unrelated and different moods, so why do they share the same BG? That piqued my interest... hopefully Taichi-kun can provide some insight...

About Tumblr, I don't really like blocking people, so I liked the muting option on Twitter. But the add-on you shared does the job. I added user names and it hides all their content with the warning. That's good enough.

About your latest post on poem 6... I remember noticing this while watching. In episode 2 of S3, Nishida reads a poem written by Chihaya, part of the summer break assignment she was doing sitting in the hospital. And the poem goes, "The magpie brought that voice to me. It will be my good luck charm for karuta." I think this is referring to her phonecall to Arata last X' mas, where she said cell phones are like the magpie, connecting her to Arata and that she was glad to hear his voice. But it could also be the phone call from the hospital, which she had just made. So this makes a third poem she wrote about Arata! Somebody tell Kana-chan! :P

AvishNov 12, 2020 1:48 AM
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Recently finished the rewatch of all seasons back to back. Enjoyed S3 much more on rewatch! Even more than 1 & 2!

Some random things I noted down while watching. Mainly from S3, but a few from 1 & 2 as well.

- "I'd rather have a hard worker than a karuta genius as my teammate," said Taichi. This clearly feels sly on Arata. Add this to his "Teki" comment and "Chihaya wants the team with you, but I don't"... basically feels like he was being dishonest to Chihaya about making a strong karuta club and waiting for Arata to come back... of course, it's not that black and white, but still mostly dark gray, leaning towards black... haha
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- Chihaya hurt her finger while trying to take wa-ta-no-ha-ra-ya. Which she lost.

- Arata noticed her injured finger during her match vs Yuube-san, but we don't really see him showing any actual concern. Shouldn't he ask her what happened or why are you risking it by using it against Shinobu-chan? But, when he noticed Shinobu's fever, he touched her forehead and consoled her........

- When he destroyed Shouji and won by 27 cards, even the reader was shocked, along with many others, but oddly no reaction from Chihaya was shown. Even though at the start of the match, she was really happy that Arata is here on the same tatami with her, and was looking fondly at him when they sat down. And LOL at Shinobu there. Pissed that Arata upstaged her!! So, Shinobu noticed, but Chihaya didn't........
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- Miss the Harada-san's original VA. New one is too loud and doesn't have the finesse of the original one... sad that we lost him...

- Will we ever see Arata's reaction when Chihaya just drops on the ground and falls asleep after the match? Would be really amusing moment! He must have already witnessed it at least a couple of times, like after her match against Taichi and after their own painful rematch.

- Arata getting recovered from his black cards was pretty quick but visually beautiful and memorable moment. But I can't recall Taichi's or Chihaya's particular moments of recovery from their black cards in the manga...

- Baka Chihaya missed one heck of entry by Arata. It was her advice that sparked it. And anime kinda ruined the impact.

- Chihaya thinking "I have so many things I want to ask him" when she was with Suo in the park. The same she had thought about Arata before. So she thinking the same with Suo, just felt... wrong. Even though she probably only wants to ask karuta related things to him... same could be said about Arata...

- Young Wataya-sensei is probably the best looking guy in the series.

- Confession scene: Arata's hand was hiding the right side of his face, so Chihaya should have tilted towards her right to be able to see, but she tilts left, which would show her more of his right hand than his pretty face. Haha

- OST track "Himeta Omoi" seems to be exclusively used for Ara-Chiha moments. And it means "Hidden feelings"...

- Transition after "Suki ya, Chihaya" feels really abrupt. Sloppy job, Madhouse.

- When Suo asked "What are you to that girl?" why did Taichi remember Harada-sensei's "Can one spend their entire youth without getting better? Hold that thought for now." before he lied to Suo about being Chihaya's boyfriend? What the heck is this supposed to imply?

- Didn't like Taichi inviting himself when Suo asked Chihaya for a match...

- Didn't like Chihaya tattling about Suo's eyes...

- Dislike shady Taichi. Lying to Chihaya, hiding things from her...

- Ara-Chiha being super-cute on phone! Especially Chihaya before dialing and after almost dropping it! And whatever happened to those strange, warm feelings since then?

- Watarai-san is absolutely hilarious in anime!

- Shinobu's mother is really something. Her thoughtless comment about Grandma along with Chihaya's school trip comment contributed to Shinobu's first-ever loss.

- Love Haruka-san's almost all the scenes. Such a great addition.

- Dislike how Kana treats Chihaya when it comes to Taichi.

- No thoughts about Arata from Chihaya on V-day feels pretty odd considering her reaction to his confession... Looks like she has pretty much forgotten about it already, lol

- "Waratte... waratte hoshiyo..." The way Asami-san's voice breaks here... so heartbreaking... such amazing voice acting...

- LOL at Nishida's, "Mashima's been down lately, but I'm having trouble sympathizing" when Taichi's getting showered with V-day chocos.

- Dumbo Chihaya brought an empty box all the way to school?! Didn't even realize the lighter weight?

- I wonder how would Arata feel if he ever found out that he wasn't invited to the Taichi's big b'day bash AKA Taichi cup and it was Chihaya who did all the inviting...

- I read people commenting that it was nice to see Chihaya caring for Taichi for once, usually he's the one doing all the caring. Huh? When have we ever seen Taichi aching for Chihaya like this and doing something just to see her smile? He always has ulterior motives...

- After Taichi's rejection, it feels really odd that the teammates all act as if nothing's wrong! Taichi seems to be fake-smiling and pretending but Chihaya looks visibly down! Kinda feels out of character that nobody says anything. Usually sensible Miyauchi-sensei also dropping a bomb like that just before they are going live!! And Chihaya here looks kinda okay! Before it hits her... How many days is this after rejection?

- Really hurts to see Chi-chan so broken... and again, none of her teammates feel bothered that she's so down? And they spend hours together! Or none of them feel it's their business? Or feeling guilty that their meddling caused this? Especially Kana and Hanano! What about at home? Nobody asked her or did anything? We're never shown. So she only has Lit-Sensei to talk to? And she never once thought of Arata...

- How convenient that Taichi lands where Suo is the teacher...

- Absolutely loved Arata and his adorable team and their visit to Fujisaki High.

- I didn't notice this before but Arata's message for Chihaya and Taichi was already prepared, so he was already gonna send it before he found out the bad news. Damn, Chihaya would have been so happy if it wasn't for all the Taichi-drama...

- In the manga, after receiving Arata's msg, Chihaya thought of Taichi only "He'll come back for sure and I will wait for him". But Anime changed it to "we" and it was in Arata's voice...

AvishNov 12, 2020 1:50 AM
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    Avish kun, such wonderful comments (especially the 2nd) ..
    I want to comment on every detail but for now I feel a bit down so i'll leave it for later (but really thank you, you put so many smiles on my face & when it's not a smile, I still felt a surge of energy go through me and I wanted to object or add something ...I hope dear my dear fellow Arata fan can feel the ultimate liveliness...)

    Still this is spot on thank you very much,
    In episode 2 of S3, Nishida reads a poem written by Chihaya, part of the summer break assignment she was doing sitting in the hospital................

    so i'll go add it to the post (re-post it actually, Taichi kun doesn't like the "Modified x hours ago" message at the end of posts XD ...hih sorry Taichi kun)

    By the way, sensei tweeted 2 tweets saying that now she is working on chap232, she said she wrote the plot & prepared all the needed cards for that chapter (this is v.interesting bc every poem will be meaningful then as it's chosen carefully ...)
Nov 13, 2020 12:46 AM

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@iNameless_ thank you for your wording of compassion friend *hugs*:


I'm glad to be back, Minna: happy to see everyone being active and bring this place in a positive light: seeing those lovely Chihaya x Arata pictures together really brings back a piece of happiness to my heart, slowly but it's there. Reading everyone's post brought laughs I lacked for some time, this place is like magic, brings back the lightness to one's heart again ( all the things we all cherish and enjoy brings back goodness in one's day, where Arata fans all gathered together.
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    sweetangie said:
    @iNameless_ thank you for your wording of compassion friend *hugs*:


    I'm glad to be back, Minna: happy to see everyone being active and bring this place in a positive light: seeing those lovely Chihaya x Arata pictures together really brings back a piece of happiness to my heart, slowly but it's there. Reading everyone's post brought laughs I lacked for some time, this place is like magic, brings back the lightness to one's heart again ( all the things we all cherish and enjoy brings back goodness in one's day, where Arata fans all gathered together.

    Come here my brave soul! *another hug*!!!
    None brings cheerfulness to this fandom more than you so Arata can only wait for you to come back to us as bright as you always were to make his world warm again and I believe, he too, can make your world just as warm!
    We are waiting for another chapter about Arata, it might be full of suffering and falling down but Arata was for me an example of what an enduring patient dedicated human being can be ...
    So we will watch him struggle THEN rise & shine like forever!!!

    these were 2 long months, not having a new chapter made us all go back to check old things hihi..
    I still want to comment on every point brought up by @Avish kun but I still can't for now, so i'm jut gonna leave this thing I noted a while ago


Nov 17, 2020 12:53 PM

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    I think I re-read this for more than necessary now I should stop lol...
    I think I'll really do my best NOT to be obsessed with another manga ever again ^^".
    because you are right.. with Chihayafuru, it's like we can't stop re-reading, there is always something calling you back to check again, to remember, to correct, to wonder about..and so many to feel "stronger" about!



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    Good afternoon ^^
    Sorry (again) guys ...for missing a lot & for the questions I couldn't answer in time and all
    & Thank you for making this place always pleasant to visit with your new updates...
    Sorry to read about your situation @sweetangie, I hope you guys feel -even if a little- better now ...I'm not sure what to say but please take good care of yourself and your family, i'm sure that's what your mother would want you to do ...
    ...
    And you are right...Life is hard and we are bound to suffer in a way or another and things like Chihayafuru give us chances to breath so please breath with us and keep going!! consider us another family of yours and BREATH WITH US!!
    ...
    @Avish kun, welcome to the "frustrated-because-of-drama-queen-Taichi" club!

    I haven't done any continuous re-read/rewatch and I suddenly feel like I want to buuuuuuut ... :/
    speaking of the backgrounds, I'm sorry for not being able to figure out anything and i rather got another question myself.
    on chapter 166, the use of backgrounds between Arata & Chihaya is interesting


    I don't know how Suetsugu chooses them really or whether she sticks to one BG for one meaning, but there are the obvious ones that I gave names to lol.
    hmm here aren't these two BGs used in turns for some reason?
    I don't know what the relationship with 145 is but you are right, there should be some sort of link, at least I can confidently say that Suetsugu wanted to express a somehow CLOSE feeling in the two situations (which proves more that Chihaya's look on 145 wasn't melancholy like some fans say)
    Chihaya is certainly "excited" to play Arata in 166, and I guess, that background expresses that excitement related to him specifically...but you know what I'm more concerned about?
    it's WHY I HAVE THIS NAGGING FEELING THAT ARATA IS RATHER UNCERTAIN HE WANTS THE REMATCH WITH CHIHAYA!!!!
    lol I mentioned this before and looks like i'm the only one who feels that xD

    Anyway...
    I only received few panels about the extra chapter and the translation you saw is google's (with my help XD)
    but I understood that the chapter is not related to the main story.. Suetsugu just used her characters to create sort of a manual yes.

    @iNameless_ thank you for every creation you made, i fell in love with your latest edits and the chosen messages for each, I love the fact that the feelings you chose are shared in a way or another between the two.
    10 more days before the next chap and i'm hopeful about it.. Arata's BD and a chapter about Arata !
    Can't wait!!
Nov 21, 2020 10:57 AM

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    Welcome back Taichi kun!!
    I'm so glad you liked them, I wanted to make them the moment I saw the calendar made by Cork with such elegance, I knew Arachiha moments deserve such designs hihi.
    I have other ideas but they'll have to wait... i have an assignment to do for now..
    I saw that you posted the interview in the DATA thread & I just wanted to remind you of the chapters review too... you really should do something to save their locations (I needed to check them again and I had to look for them in all the comments which is a bit duh)

    Also what do you think about the use of Tare & Tachi in 225 (which I posted above)?
Nov 24, 2020 11:17 AM

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    I wonder who chapter 232 will be about because according to BeLove's tweet (check the news thread), it's so touching! (I hope it's Arata ....... or even Yuu?)

    The tweet says that a certain character's "secret thoughts" will be revealed and those whose thoughts were like secrets until now are Arata, Chihaya, maybe Suo too? somehow? at least they are a secret for his surroundings?
    I feel so impatient to read 232 even before 231 xd how about you guys?

    @iNameless_ I already said how I believe that "Tare" from chapter 229 was a way for Suesugu to confirm that Taichi x Chihaya is no more than friendship, that's what Chihaya has always wanted and it didn't change even after all her sadness because of him quitting the club & staying away from her so I believe that your analysis makes sense. Until recently, Taichi was referred to using his main card "Tachi wakare" and changing it to "Tare" is meaningful.
    the poem "Tachi" fits perfectly the love he feels and makes a wonderful tool to continue the story of making Chihaya and Taichi end up together IF Suetugu intended it... the poet promises to come back to the person he loves if he learn that she is pinning for him & she wants him, wouldn't it be so fitting for a scenario where Chihaya finally tells Taichi how she needs him and how she thinks she can't live without him and how life was hard away from him, Taichi will feel "wanted" and he will let go of his insecurities to tell Chihaya everything clearer, to confess that he couldn't forget her and that he still wants a chance etc.. it's so easy to turn it into "something" that can lead to future romance of the two... but instead, Suetsugu started to insert Tare here and there to describe Chihaya's thoughts and what Taichi is for her so.. I believe that you really have a point.

    As for the Chapters' review, I'll see what I can do about it...
Nov 24, 2020 12:40 PM

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WHAT WENT THROUGH MY MIND WHILE I WAS READING CH226 !!
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    Taichi!!
    wonderful review of chapter 226, my favorite chapter ever and I didn't expect that I could love it even better but I DO NOW!!!
    I am very interested in the poem 26 (ogurayama), it was chosen as the poem for volume 45
    in the whole volume, it was used only twice: one on ch226 as you mentioned and the other is on ch229 when Chihaya's ability to take cards as one syllable was mentioned, back then Tamaru thought that only SE was a 1 syllable card in play but Chihaya took Ogu after hearing "O" even though there were other O cards unread...
    Which of the two uses are more meaningful for the story I wonder ...i'll be watching this card carefully from now on!
    again, thank you very much!
    and please, if you can, make more chapter analysis! (and post them all in one specific thread instead XD)
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    Thank you for your addition about Tare & Tachi!
    I agree and I don't have anything to add!

    About the tweet now, I saw the post and the article on Comici, sensei said that she wanted to draw the feelings of a character even if they are not a main one, so maybe it's Yuu chan?
    Edit: She seems to have rather said that she wants to draw it even if it's not related to the main plot of the manga


    If it's Yuu, I welcome it with all my heart because I know it's related to Arata


    hmm there was the story sensei shared on IG, a page about a still focused Chihaya, if it's about Yuu, will her secret thoughts be told while she is on her way? I don't think she will arrive yet to Omi Jingu right?
    Also Arata should suffer a bit more in the next chapter first so we have time to worry about that later..now prepare some tissues for Arata xD
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Also I forgot to mention this,looks like sensei posted Arata's face in a fleet (twitter story) but she soon deleted it
(she insists on hiding Arata from us ..she is teasing us XD)
but a fan already captured the image and here is the illustrations


The text on Arata's face is something about how Suetsugu sensei enjoys drawing eye balls.

Nov 30, 2020 2:04 AM

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    Rawaa chan, I'm glad my review made sense ...
    For "Ogurayama", I'd say, the second use is more meaningful and better explained
    but then this will make our curiosity shift more to it's 1st use? this make me personally wonder more whether the way I saw it is actually what sensei wanted, because it doesn't look like a random choice..
    still yes, we don't really know so let's keep an eye on it and enjoy how our knowledge of its meaning & background makes the context richer!!

    For the tweet and who 232 will be about, reading the few spoilers of 231 makes me think that "Shinobu's mother" could be a better possibility than Yuu, what do you think?
    we never got a chance to know exactly how she sincerely feels about her daughter's life & karuta even with all her random nagging here & there... what she asked her mother (Shinobu's grandmother), what she wants to do when spring comes ..she started a conversation about it but it was cut and we might finally learn what she wanted & why..
    ...

    So it is believed that Arachiha fans hate yuu? how weird!!
    personally, among all female characters of Chihayafuru, I think Yuu is the most reliable and stable, she is strong and admirable (this is how I see her, that's why I hate the way the novels portrayed her in some scenes and how they tried to give her kindness & care some excuse (loving Arata romantically) which is really a shame but thankfully, that's just someone else's story -almost wishful one too...

    --
    Arata's face in the illustration looks so um .. uncharacteristically feminine? maybe even more than Chihaya's?
    but still handsome nonetheless..
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The last page of the chap...so well done, Chihaya looks strong and calm.
The text says (google translation):
"The one which Omi Jingu's GOD told to stay here is me!"



Dec 1, 2020 10:56 PM

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    I AM SOOOO HAPPY THIS MONTH, SO SATISFIED!!
    the chapter,
    Chihaya's growth
    her "gift to Arata (on his birthday xd and him already been drawn wearing a tasuki so beautifully in chap 216's cover)
    (the fact that Arata also supported her on ch226 that was released on Chihaya's birthday)
    Arata's birthday, the way it was celebrated on twitter and how sensei retweeted and commented on MOST posts, she seemed so happy and invested, it felt like she was surprised at how much Arata is loved ..I want to cry!!

    Also the words she used to describe Arata in her own post (+the cute illustration!)
    her words specifically mean a lot to me
    Aaah, I want to comment more but I have to leave!!!!
    @Avish kun, you better be here when I come back hihi (hope you are fine!)
    I want to comment a lot but I have another assignment!
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Hello, everyone!! It's been a while!! I'm still busy but I wanted to comment in the group :DD

I absolutely love the arachiha panels in this chapter!! what an amazing gift for Arata fans on his birthday!! I wonder if next chapter will be about Yuu after all...we could have a monologue from her and some flashabacks with Arata but I don't think she'd be able to interact directly with him considering the time she needs to get to Omi Jingu and the players about to start the 4th match in the end of this chapter.

Also I wanted to talk about sensei's commentary on her picture of Arata's birthday that @iNameless_ posted in the other thread. It in translation sensei asks the question if Arata will go back to Fukui after college. What do you guys think?
Dec 2, 2020 12:12 PM

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    Rawaa chan, I can perfectly understand what you feel because that's how I feel too!
    the way fans celebrated Arata's birthday was refreshing, I think Suetsugu sensei didn't expect it.. every year the celebration was held in Fukui so it didn't really show how much Arata is loved because he is Arata, I don't doubt Fukui's people's love but Arata being a symbol of that place makes it a bit different,
    But this time, the pure love Arata received from all over the world is because he is Arata, the character sensei drew with all his details and I personally felt the difference & bet sensei felt it too.

    What i felt somehow "humorous" though is how some ...fans posted ArataxYuu & ArataxShinobu material & tagged sensei while wishing Arata happy birthday, if you know what I mean xd
    I mean, I tried to be fair and I wondered if I shipped something other than Arachiha (a ship without a base in the manga) and saw how many Arachiha posts sensei retweeted & complimented, would I have sent her anything about my unrelated ship? the idea made feel a bit embarrassed and I'm curious about how those people felt? are there fans who are really passionate about these two ships?
    it was surprising -and also amusing XD.

    Sensei's words also surprised me (hopefully the translation is correct because i'll deserve a beating if not haha)
    I mean, I had the impression that she didn't really consider Arata's "self-sufficiency" a thing because he seemed fine although -as I described in my chapter reviews- Arata is a victim for those who care to look closely.. I wondered if sensei doesn't even acknowledge the struggle but she does which makes me very delighted too (because it means she will fix it!!)

    Hanano chaaan!!
    This place missed you so much :D
    and actually, it's Fuchu city, the place where Chihaya & the others live :)


    Arata is going to the university of Tokyo, and I thought that he will live close to it (I personally thought that it will be in Bunkyo city where the main campus is) but sensei seems to consider bringing Arata to Fuchu instead which is closer to Chihaya & Shiranami (wait! does this mean that he will lose now and then join Shiranami again then become Meijin so shiranami would have produced a Queen: Chihaya & a Meijin: Arata??) lol

    Anyway, I think this is great news for Chiharata shippers more than the "Arachiha moments" in the chapter itself....
    I mean, I don't want to ruin your optimistic view but for me, this time, Chihaya spoke with Arata just as a friend.
    She loves him I'm convinced about this and the small blush she had on her face when he came out of his waiting room reminds us of the difference in how she loves him compared to how she loves Taichi for example, the platonic & the romantic difference
    but Arata wasn't fine (& it's rare for him to be), Chihaya could understand this and what she wanted is for him to calm down.. counting on her feelings for him isn't what will help someone like him because it's like when she told him she doesn't want to think about love yet, she wants to focus on her tasks related to becoming Queen and fortifying Mizusawa, what Arata told her is that HE TOO wants to focus on his dream, he is someone who thinks that focusing on "love" will distract him, is he right or wrong though, we will learn this later but that's how he answered Chihaya so she spoke to him and offered him her tasuki as a friend and that wasn't a symbol of love
    Also, Chihaya might struggle without her Tasuki and someone who might have kept it can give her Taichi's tasuki again (don't think this will happen but yeah, just to ruin the mood lol)

    Saying anything more about the chapter might be jumping the gun so I guess i'll stop here...
    I mean, yes I'm most interested in how Harada sensei felt about Arata's loss and how he considered his feelings and was unsure of congratulating Chihaya and how he thought of both of them as his disciples but yeah..
    I should stop..
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MashimaTaichi_ said:
I think Suetsugu sensei didn't expect it.. every year the celebration was held in Fukui so it didn't really show how much Arata is loved because he is Arata, I don't doubt Fukui's people's love but Arata being a symbol of that place makes it a bit different,
But this time, the pure love Arata received from all over the world is because he is Arata, the character sensei drew with all his details and I personally felt the difference & bet sensei felt it too.


Wow Taichi, I never thought about that before. It's true the people of fukui celebrate Arata not only because of him but because he represents Fukui. But I love how the fans conveyed to sensei how much loved Arata is!! I saw so many tweets and posts about him.

MashimaTaichi_ said:
What i felt somehow "humorous" though is how some ...fans posted ArataxYuu & ArataxShinobu material & tagged sensei while wishing Arata happy birthday, if you know what I mean xd
I mean, I tried to be fair and I wondered if I shipped something other than Arachiha (a ship without a base in the manga) and saw how many Arachiha posts sensei retweeted & complimented, would I have sent her anything about my unrelated ship? the idea made feel a bit embarrassed and I'm curious about how those people felt? are there fans who are really passionate about these two ships?
it was surprising -and also amusing XD.


Aww I feel kinda bad. I'm surprised people sent her Arata/Yuu though lol!! Arachiha is pretty much the bigger Arata ship. But yeah I'm so happy sensei replied to all those tweets!!

MashimaTaichi_ said:
Hanano chaaan!!
This place missed you so much :D
and actually, it's Fuchu city, the place where Chihaya & the others live :)


I missed this place too!! luckily the 1 month break went real fast for me due to me being busy hehe...ohhhh I feel so stupid now! I never knew they lived there, I just assumed they lived in Tokyo for some reason...my geography is bad, I'm sorry!! but what a happy surprise anyway!

About Arata joining Shiranami society I think it's both good and bad, it's good because he was in that society back when he was a kid and would go full circle but bad because I feel the role of representing the society would pass to Taichi. And I think it would be cruel to pass that to Arata instead of Taichi. That's just me though

MashimaTaichi_ said:
Anyway, I think this is great news for Chiharata shippers more than the "Arachiha moments" in the chapter itself....
I mean, I don't want to ruin your optimistic view but for me, this time, Chihaya spoke with Arata just as a friend.


I'm aware it's a friendship moment but I call Arachiha moment every moment that is just about Chihaya and Arata regardless of its romanticness lol! I noticed Shinobu still had the tasuki Chihaya gave her out of her daddy bear blanket so maybe Shinobu will give it back to her? it would be sweet.
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    - yes they live in Tokyo, Tokyo is a prefecture and it contains many cities (if i'm not wrong ofc and my geography isn't that good either, I google things a lot that's all xd)
    (also could she make him rant that same old room again? which must have been renovated somehow?)

    - Yeah, I kinda understand because i am always busy lol, it's just some tweets here & there makes me thrilled, like that one about ch232 and I keep checking things whenever i get some free time..
    thankfully this time around we won't have to wait a whole month :D

    - hmmmmm, I wonder why I don't really value Taichi's place in shiranami... I think, he thinks of himself a lot as "himself" and I see him that way too.. for me Taichi is just Taichi..Shiranami is an experience that he lived and now he kinda left it behind..even if he comes back some times it won't be serious ... I don't know I might be too focused of him as an self-centered individual and this is clouding my judgement.
    but you are right, it would be a bit awkward even for me but for another reason... I imagine that Shiranamy & Nagumo society will forever be rivals for that title, so I can't imagine Arata playing against Nagumo.

    - wow, I didn't think of that possibility either but yes, the precious Daddy bear item Chihaya used to make that Tasuki might just return to her and it can revive the moments of friendship between these too, because for now, Chihaya seems to totally ignore Shinobu the girl she wanted to save before, she thought that she left her behind and that's the end of it and that now she is the one who is gonna stand on the wilderness of the top!
    it feels weird to me.. this Chihaya feels cold and I don't really love it...
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@iNameless_ @MashimaTaichi_ Thank you guys for your compassion words my dear friends *group hug*, it's going to take a lot time to heal, I'll stay strong for my mom and see the light my mom has always giving me will forever live in my heart. ;_;

Arata is a warm and caring character he gives a good example what it means to be a proud person ( with pure and dignity): even with his own struggles he sees life in a positive light: even so he can't achieve and live his dream alone, he needs support and encouragement from his dear family and friends ,even the soul of his grandpa he loved so much that will forever will guide him:[we all have people in our life who keep us to move forward and live our lives with passion and love] and together he'll walk forward towards he given destiny all the way through: rather he win the tournament or not he'll be satisfy with the results: the most important thing is that he'll discover a lot of amazing things about himself where he holds the key to unleash his potential where his passion was locked within.

About ch 231 I'm happy to see Chihaya leading her power to Arata by borrowing her tasuki to him with her name written on it ( it's her indirect present for his birthday in our time, sensei knows exactly what she's doing, lol): saying that she's with him all the way: when Arata face his struggles during the next match seeing Chihaya name will give him the strength and calmness he needs to play his match to the fullest. The other scene I like to point out in how Chihaya's mother knew her daughter was feelings uncertain in what's to come, Chihaya's calmness helped by her mother offering head massage: it reminds me of my mom she used to give me head massage when she dyes my hair, so soothing and relaxing: it's wonderful having a touch of each of our mom's love. Chihaya felt refreshed and calm, so she wanted to offer Arata that sense of calmness, it's sweet to see they have each others back as they are walking forward their 4th match to accomplish their first dream together.
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    @sweetangie welcome again and thank you for being this brave and inspiring :)
    I missed your words full of passion for Arata & Chiharata ^^
    your words are spot on, whether Arata wins or loses, what counts really is his peace with himself that I personally am in love with, and the experiences he will learn...
    he was always clumsy and he didn't have friends, the people around him supported him & pushed him ahead and he followed their guidance but not enough to experience what friends of close age people do, so hopefully, getting the chance to see more things he doesn't know will make him learn positively as he always did.

    And you are again so right about the Chihaya & her other's moment...
    I'm a bit of a family person myself so I value the support shared within family so much and I'm glad, Chihaya's mother got even if a bit of role ..mothers are a blessing whether alive or gone, even the memory in our hearts are inspiring and giving us courage ...
    Chihayafuru is more and more exciting with all stories (especially now that there are less frustrations caused to me by Taichi ^^")

    I also want to welcome our new member @Arazaran ...this ID caught my attention!
    I love the poem and I'd love to hear more about the 100 issue and their use in Chihayafuru from people who are interested in them .
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    @Avish kun!!!! (firstly, I hope your absence is because of something good) secondy, you read the post above? we've got another Detective san in the team!!!

    you are really welcome @Arazaran!
    you got me super excited (and I know i'll be restless the whole time i'll have to work on my next task because i'll be very eager to talk about everything you mentioned) so 'im really looking forward to read so please take your time !! (and thank you very much for taking my particular care for organization into consideration ^^" I say this but please know that it's no obligation, write as freely as you want ^^)

    @iNameess__ has a record of the use of most cards (she sent it to me but can't find it for some reason :/) so we can use that to ook into the use of the cards faster, "Se" included.
    and the poems you mentioned are basically our most interesting ones so that's great!

    And wow!! spot on with the little penguin and number 7!!
    I believe the penguin is the symbol of BeLove itself (they even use it as profile picture for their official accounts, check twitter for example)
    While I don't think that only 6 remaining chapters will not be spoken about somehow clearly, it stays a possibility

    We already guessed that the remaining chapter are rather like this


    but who knows? and I feel already anxious!!

    For 232, something is teling me that it will be Shinobu's mother.
    We already got the first hints that her story still has a lot to be unfolded ..things left unsaid and Shinobu isn't as indifferent about their cold relationship, she rather wants her om's love, so my guess is that it will be about them instead...
    Well we need to read the translated chapter first to know more ofc ^^".
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    Wow!!
    this is even more thrilling (like a new movie teaser hh)
    so yep, waiting for it ......................

    By the way, I can read a bit of Japanese (Hiragana so also furigana) and write it effortlessly I think... (but I don't understand much.. lol)
    so if there is a certain sentence you want me to write for you or to do a google translate just tell me?
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It's nice to be missed! Hehe! So thanks for that guys! :)

But sadly my absence wasn't because of something good... Our 300-year-old ancestral home is being demolished... so, few of us family members went to visit it one last time... it was really painful to remove all our belongings from there and shift to a rented place... so many precious memories... seeing it being taken down brick by brick.............
Anyway, I didn't have access to a PC there and I don't like typing on the tiny smartphone screen... hence the long absence...

Hope you're doing okay now, Angie-san... a warm Arata-hug for you :)

The new chapter after 2 months and 2-3 huge posts [you really did comment on my every point, Rawaa-san! and welcome Arazaran (kun/san)]... Reading them and responding should have been exciting... but I'm not really feeling much enthusiasm... really sorry about that... demolition work is going to go on for another month or so... so I'll be going back there a couple more times in between... so probably won't be posting much during that time also... but even though I didn't post anything, I did read all your posts on the tiny screen, so do keep on writing. Looking forward to all your responses to Arazaran's impressive analysis and Taichi-Kun's "WWTMMWIWR" post about 231 ;)
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Just wanted to add something positive after my previous post... :)

Along with Chihaya giving Arata her tasuki, another small moment that brought a smile to my face was Chihaya waiting outside Arata's room as he came out! How absolutely precious was that! xD
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    @Arazaran, I apologize for all this delay, as I said, i'm working on something and it dragged longer than I expected unfortunately but I couldn't resist reading your analysis and let me tell you, while there are lot of things I disagree with, I can't express how surprised I was when I saw all the data you collected and the way you reasoned in multiple places I laughed for real repeated "another real detective!!" lol
    I love this so much, the pleasure is really ours to have you with us so I hope to have the needed time soon to reply on everything you said...
    (also yes ofc, I offered and i'll be glad to help..when I get free time that is :( )

    Avish, I'm sorry for what happened to your residence, while I believe that it's very sad & painful because you say so I still can't deny that I'm relieved you yourself are safe and healthy... this world will disappear someday I believe so everything is less important than the human life and health itself...
    Be strong and keep going.
    We will wait for you.. always.

    about my "WWTMMWIWR" post, I didn't read the chapter yet so it's gonna take some time but yeah, looking forward to reading it thoroughly..

    @iNameless_ , if you can, would you please post the history of "SE"?, Araza-san (can I call you this? it's the kimariji of the card xd) has mentioned some of its uses especially recent ones but I think the history of SE goes way back, no, through the whole story so I want to see tall the scenes together?
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Arazaran this is torture ^^ »
You are overwhelming me with all your analysis you are amazing and I want to take part of it but I’m really dead tired my brain feels frozen and I still didn’t finish my project ..i didn’t even get a chance to read the last chapter yet *sighs*
Still a quick answer:
What I mainly disagree with is about the link between SE & Mizusawa + your theories about the end of the manga.
I believe the manga still has at least 14 chapters for many reasons…
For SE, you are right, there are two storylines, one is about Shinobu, I don’t know if you read our analysis about it before but Shinobu’s jealousy of Chihaya is probably the reason Sotoku in left her side so what will make her win it again is whether she can make peace with what she is jealous of or not (she seems to hate Chihaya’s team and Arata’s love for teams too and this is because she herself doesn’t have one, she is lonely and she feels abandoned)
You might be right… maybe if her grandma talks to her and makes her feel loved and wanted and supported she will realize that she too has her family (and also her new supporters with Kokoro chan on top of them) as her own team.

The other storyline though is about Arata..
I dunno, maybe, this is where Taichi will play his role with him because with Taichi back, team Chihayafuru will be reunited and Arata is the one who treasure that team the most among the three, it’s with that team that he got o play Karuta to his heart content, back then he had no pressure, he didn’t have to pretend to be his grandpa and he certainly played and had fun as his own self, so if team Chihayaburu is back, maybe his passion will be too and that will save him..
Though, something is telling me it’s also about his special encounter with Chihaya alone.. it started even the “Team Chihayafuru” for him, if his life till now was a big lie to keep his grandpa alive than his encounter with Chihaya started the only real “experience” for him and that’s so special for him.
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    @sweetangie (ใฃห˜โŒฃ(ห˜_ห˜ )
    @Avish kun! I'm sorry to know that... I hope you feel a little better now and please take your time and put your comfort first..we will be waiting for you and your irreplaceable comments ^^

    @Arazaran, welcome in the club, and thank you very much for your efforts in gathering all the info... it was a long read but really so rich ..
    though I also think the manga will not end after only 7 chapters ... the penguin with the number 7 on the fan is most probably an addition from BeLove's editorial department wishing someone good luck because the Penguin is the symbol of BeLove and number 7 is a lucky number in Japan so when you cheer someone with this number, you are wishing them good luck so I don't think it's related to the number of remaining chapters...

    Taichi kun, I'll try to post the history as soon as possible and hopefully, it will be useful (but I have to clarify something: I started taking notes of the use of the cards not very long ago so I don't have every scene in the 1st third of the story) but I made sure to add the ones I remembered & those mentioned in the comic book (means I didn't do a thorough re-read of that part contrary to the rest of the story till now)
    Also a warning, my history of the SE card doesn't connect events like Araza san's analysis which is great by the way..
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    @Arazaran, haha, yeah torture indeed "^^... I'll do my best and i probably wouldn't be able to do much before new years too (but nah I'll resurrect from the dead if necessary for chap 232 :p and I'll most probably spend every free time I get to analyze your posts -I didn't read the whole post yet *insert sheepish smile here* lol)..
    So yep, me too, I wish all of you wonderful times with your loved ones :)
    iNameless chan, take your time and rest well when you need it....
    take good care everyone and see you later :)
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Fuck, this only should have been a comment about the little 7.
Araza san, please twist every comment's initial idea and make more like this because I loved every word and I agree so much!
You've said it all too well and pretty much summarized the way I think Suetsugu sensei thinks.. the editor gave sensei green light to write her story at her own pace and end it whenever she wants because it sells well (at least compared to any other manga BeLove itself is publishing) ..I believe the number of sold copies didn't drop since Taichi's appearance got smaller but sensei knew how to write more special stories and you are right with how she is using Taichi till now ... Hmmm, She spoke in one of her Notes about how she is already ready for the cut of income after the manga ends and how she thinks of other ways to gain money so I think she isn't very afraid of being affected by angering a certain faction of her fans but in the same time she also enjoys writing what fans would love ..or rather she cares to make her fans love what she writes so she will do her best in the way she will write the remaining chapters (also she said in her latest interview that she won't let any character tell her that she was cruel with them or abandoned them which is promising)

Though for the number 7, your "Why would" questions make sense indeed but maybe it was added only in Chihayafuru because it's the only manga with a competition? the idea of 6 chapters for the rest of the tournament seems a better theory I guess.

Um, I was working on the history of SE, it's long post and I guess I want to edit it a bit and post it later instead of commenting on the analysis above because I also believe that Se is more related to Arata and in not related to Taichi ...
but ok, if you guys don't need it very soon, I'll take my time .
I wish both of you (and everyone else) too the best in every coming minute and i'll be looking forward to more of what you all think, speculation are very welcome Araza-san (this sounds like Arata and I love it hihi)
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    Thank you so much Wataya kun for posting the illustration!!
    I this it's one of the smartest illustrations sensei drew ... I believe it makes both shipping groups happy or at least expectant...
    Well Arata fans were already steadily getting their image about the positive end (I know I am! lol) so i believe it's more about getting Taichi fans back before the release of the 46th volume...they are lot of costumers after all...

    Sensei wrote this question in her comment about this illustration (google tr): "what are the three doing?" and left it unanswered.

    So what I personally see is the usual relationship of the three and Suetsugu sensei doesn't seem to intend to reveal anything more about where the romance is going through these illustrations.
    Chihaya is sitting on a railing in a certain place where Sakura blossoms..
    The place where we saw sakura in the manga was the way to Fukui but there were no railings so it's not that.
    But there is a famous place in the city of Bankyo for sakura sight seeing where there are railings so it might be that... the time is the end of the school year maybe, like as if Arata came to visit at the end of the year, he is in his school uniform...
    Chihaya looks happy and carefree...
    Taichi is typical Taichi, there is no sense of personal space between him & Chihaya +the fact that he loves being close to her is there and Chihaya doesn't mind like she always didn't mind in the manga before.
    Arata though.. he might be trying to "climb" on the railing or just stand there and there is a distance between him and his two friends (like always),
    They look like they are looking all to one direction, like they are going to take a picture?
    And looks like Chihaya is impatient and wouldn't wait until Arata settles down or fixes his position for the 'shot', so she puts her hand on his head and joins her head with his to remove that distance ^^.
    I'm so positive I tell you hihi
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    Hi everyone, hope you all are fine..
    just a quick visit to express my satisfaction with the new chapter.. Araza san, this should be a bit of a proof that there aren't only 7/6 remaining chapters and most probably it's like sensei said in a recent interview, might go up to 50 volumes but not beyond.

    I finally read the last chapter xd (sorry for those who were waiting for my blabbing about it so I gonna post my impressions, long as usual sorry but at least I could do this

    I'm very excited about 232 and hopefully the translators can finish the chapter as soon as possible (well after they enjoy themselves ofc, this is a period of happy times after all)
    - Chiha isn't in Chihaya's match again (reminds me of the theory: it's with Taichi and he will be the one to return it to both Arata & Chihaya)
    Also I wonder how Arata's less worried state now will change and how he will lose (and why he didn't wear the tasuki? Poor Chihaya didn't wear it herself and he just put it there next to him? XD)

    Ok that's all, here is the ..review? (might edit it if I spot any mistakes coz I wrote it kinda quickly)




    WHAT WENT THROUGH MY MIND WHILE I WAS READING CH231 !!
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    You know? I was worried at first but seeing your enthusiasm i'm much relieved because this energy helps so much in fighting the virus.. I hope you'll be completely cured before the second week ends!!

    again, you made good points (which I also can't answer now but which I read all) and for the poems as I said, I can read a bit of Japanese so I can recognize the cards' kimariji and then I check which poem it is by searching on this website. (Ok, there are cards I learned which I don't need to check but all the others I can't without referring to the material ^^"

    For the images, you should use this code
    [img]PUT THE DIRECT LINK TO THE IMAGE AND IT SHOULD END WITH THE EXTENTION OF THE IMAGE + MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO SPACES IN THE LINK[/img]
    
    Here are some examples of direct links to some images (I took the ones from iNameless's post about Arata's popularity with ladies:
    https://i.imgur.com/86gXUeW.png      ----> so to show it I must write:          [img]https://i.imgur.com/86gXUeW.png[/img]
    https://i.imgur.com/h9PfIJD.png           -------------------->        [img]https://i.imgur.com/h9PfIJD.png[/img]
    
    Also if you have an image on your device you should first host it online (most people use Imgur.com) and this website will give you a direct like like those above or even the BBcode directly.
    

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Taichi, thank you very much for your help and wishes! I could sleep like a rock the last few days and I feel really really good, but it’s just super boring right now. Just today and tomorrow to go for quarantine and back into the office on the 11th.

Don’t worry, you don’t have to answer on everything I write. I can wait for what you want to write (except for new chapters, how did you guys managed it for so many years? haha). We will most likely disagree on a few things, but this in here, is so much fun and I am sad I didn’t find it earlier. Even if we have just one of our many predictions come true in the end, as a collective it would be awesome and we could be proud of that. So with that, I wish you too good luck with your work and I hope it will be less in the near future.

Nameless, again thank you so much for doing the SE and girls write up. Sorry for writing just now. Short correction, the boys aren’t Murao’s brothers. They are Hiro and Shin Matsubayashi, the duo of Arata’s highschool team. I think Murao’s brothers are called Yuta and Kenta. They are still too young to be in highschool, I think.

Please, please wait until the translations come out but I just want to write it to you now. In 232, SE is besides SU on Chihaya’s side (If my drawing japanese signs in google translator skillzzz didn’t dissappoint me :D). Little later it’s in the practice match vs Sudo on Suo‘ side, on his left side back row on the far left, beside OKU.

I feel bad for asking – I really hope you don’t mind, since you put so much effort in it, but how exactly do you think it’s related to Arata? Chihaya’s SE take right now has a really big build up for a big moment and I really can’t see that for Chihaya x Arata. The only thing what I think can happen for Arata is an SE take in the 5th game, but I doubt that since CHIHA is the card for them and like I said I can’t see Suetsugu using the 2 cards for one.

I personally couldn’t see an SE use in the romantic way in the whole manga. Not when Kana referenced it between Chihaya’s and Arata’s situation, not when Chihaya used SE for Taichi before the nationals and not when Arata said that the 3rd year match connects to the first match they played.

Also you didn’t put my 2 biggest reasons for SE x Mizusawa in your history, where in Chapter 225 Taichi takes SE in his Mizusawa gear in his prayer for Chihaya and in 226 the second time where Arata used the phrase ‚I know her first card‘. This to be honest was just my interpretation of scene where he reunited Taichi with Mizusawa and gave SE to Taichi and Mizusawa, but I would love to hear you interpretation on that. Shinobu is a whole different beast, so let’s just focus Chihaya’s take.

Somehow since I’m here the SE topic climbed to my 1st place of my what-I-want-to-know-list, so thank you guys for that. Like I said, I hope you don‘t mind it, since I know most of the time, when it comes to analyises and theories, my writing sounds pretty dickish and cold. :) But don’t worry, my shipper heart will shine soon enough again. :D
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I really wished for more time in Fukui, more with Yuu. She is definitely the person who has the purest soul in Chihayafuru (btw I personally really dislike that in the Spin-off, she is described as jealous, what is not her character). You can see what impact Arata has on her, when a single thank you can bring her to tears or when he said that she should know best that he doesn’t want pity rewards for playing Karuta and she starts smiling and blushing. She was his rock in his darkest times and understands him, but he doesn’t have love feelings for her and never will have this kind of feelings So I don’t understand some Taichi fans who say, now that she is coming to OmiJingu, Arata will turn his back on Chihaya and will run into Yuu’s arms or otherway around that Chihaya will suddenly turn her back on Arata to run towards Taichi.(There are we again with using something from distracting the readers from ChihayaxArata, most suprising thing, it works on many people) That is just bullshit. It’s kinda funny tho, most Taichi fans (I also think some Arata fans forgot that he said that he wants to hold Chihaya and want to be person who’s okay to embrace her, just one night before tournament) at that point everyone should have realized that his feelings for her a real and a rejection now will hurt just as much for Arata as back then for Taichi.

The two things I hope that won’t happen are that Taichi and Kana giving somekind of okay that she can go to Arata and if Chihaya’s kind of confession happens in the break between game 4 and 5, that Yuu won’t hear it. Because even tho she is the kindest and most understanding, I think it’s kinda fair to say that she has more feelings for Arata than she can say. Sorry, this was my shipper heart and my love for Yuu as a character.
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This is more of a standalone post, but I hope you guys don’t mind a little bit of me talking about the poems. First off, I prepared pictures with all cards,numbers and names. Sadly I messed up CHIHA and probably some poem names, but I hope everything is readable. Also I found something on pinterest.com/ritaroartist that is really nice to have, so if you have a pinterest account and download these pictures, leave a follow there.

HYAKUNIN ISSHU #1-100 CARDS/NAMES/NUMBERS (I did this, maybe you see the easteregg I put in there) -> https://imgur.com/a/hHAv9Dh – I find reading sideways much faster, so I can find cards faster. This is for everyone who is as hopeless as me with japanese and want to know cards, maybe it’s even useful to you Taichi and Nameless :)
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This are all poems with cards, numbers, english/romaji/japanese and absolute beautiful art on top of that, again pinterest.com/ritaroartist is the source. I looked up and the translations are 1:1 the ones from the University of Virginia. I wished the poems would be parted in part 1 and 2 and I had to blackout the Tago cards, because the artist used the OKU cards, but overall this is so great. I put the cards in 4 different folders, so if you download them, you won’t be confused. If you downloaded them on your PC please put them all in one folder with name and number, they should order themselves.

HYAKUNIN ISSHU #1-30 -> https://imgur.com/a/o0V2qZH

HYAKUNIN ISSHU #31-50 -> https://imgur.com/a/1ObZVoy

HYAKUNIN ISSHU #51-80 -> https://imgur.com/a/VyIsKRb

HYAKUNIN ISSHU #81-100 -> https://imgur.com/a/dyZIBH1

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I was really suprised when I found out that there 2 WATA NO HARA cards (#11, #76), 2 KIMI GA TAME cards (#15, #50) and 2 ASABORAKE cards (#31, #64), but except from them nothing doubles itself. Since there only 10 cards with 15 signs (#20, #22, #23, #28, #49, #73, #77, #79, #80, #99) and one with 16 signs (#21), they are rather easy to find, when the full card is shown. Also so many goddamn cards starts with an A, it’s unsettling. CHIGIRI #75 and CHIGIRIKI #42 are two different cards, which was a suprise – hahah.

But now to the poems itself, since I am in quarantine I had rather more time, so I looked at them with care. The autumn, water and moon are really often used in old poetry, huh? But this is not a complain, since you can do so much and have more than 1 meaning with just with these topics. In the HYAKUNIN ISSHU there are so many great poems, but I have to say, the most feelings when I read them are there, when I read the sad/grief/lonely ones. In the end I put 2 more poem besides ARAZARAN #56, which I could immediatly connect with something.
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To put this new interest in action, I’ve decided to look at the cards which were read in chapter 232 and if they wanted to tell a story somehow, to a suprise I think they were. I can’t translate the story, with the poems 1:1, but I try do the best I can. Luckily we don’t need translations for that, but let’s look at the poems. This is from Arata’s and Chihaya’s POV, so I only conncet thing with that – positive and negative.


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Like I said earlier, I wanted to add two more poems, which I think are great and I could connect with something but let’s start with my poem and I think no poem comes close to it, ARAZARAN #56.

Soon my life will close.
When I am beyond this world
And have forgotten it,

Let me remember only this:
One final meeting with you.


The feeling Arata has must felt, when he gets the news that his Grandpa died, who was on under his care, are probably undescribeable to people who didn’t go through such an situation. His absence in Karuta and depression followed logically. I think if he could he would like one more meeting in person to say an real goodbye to the centerpiece of his universe.

The second poem, is too for Arata and his Grandpa. This poem is more about the legacy, what has been and how it will look in the future for Arata. The poem is TAKI #55.


Though the waterfall
Ceased its flowing long ago,
And its sound is stilled,

Yet, in name it ever flows,
And in fame may yet be heard.


Even tho his Grandpa stopped playing competitive Karuta a long time ago and he died, the name Wataya i still big in the Karuta community. This little teenager has to carry it in the future but it’s certainly not at the peak. Maybe even later in life when has multiple Meijin titles, he has a certain someone by his side *cough* Chihaya Wataya *cough* (sorry my shipper heart), the name Wataya will dominate the Karuta world again.

But the last poem suprised me the most, in how much I can I connect it to Chihayafuru as a whole and it’s ending. The poem is KORE #10.

Truly, this is where
Travelers who go or come
Over parting ways--

Friends or strangers--all must meet:
The gate of "Meeting Hill."


Once it really ends, all people Suetsugu wrote with her heart will be all around Japan or maybe even in other countries. New friendships will happen and people will find the person, they want to spend the rest of life with. But no matter what old friends, new friends, family and strangers will come every year once a year to a special place to watch what everyone connects. They will come to OmiJingu, their Meeting Hill.
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    Hi Araza san!
    Such fun to read comment, I really enjoyed reading (especially the second about the poems) and ofc I enjoyed it because I believe you are now fully recovered and well ^^ congratulations on beating the stupid virus who refuses to leave *upset face*
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    The cute cards from pinterest, I saw them before, I also downloaded them and kept looking at them until I found other old illustrations draw specifically for the poems which I fell in love with (I used the one for poem 77 in my post about SE)
    The cards you collected, hihi, I did the same too.. though I couldn't find the cards I wished to use in my collection so I screen-shotted -if I may say- the cards from the karuta app (I hope this isn't illegal XD)

    Ok, so I'm so grateful for the correction and you are perfectly right Shun & Hiro aren't Murao's brothers how did I even make this mistake? lol
    And also lol for your writing skilzzzz of Japanese script XD
    I didn't look at the poems yet in 232 (was Chihaya's formation shown clearly though?)
    AS for Se
    On ch225, the remembered moment is the same from ch79 when Chihaya took Se with her middle finger and straight to the corner of the card and that was a moment where Chihaya succeeded in advancing another step towards the Queen she always wanted to beat (because in the revious chapters she was training so hard to arrive there) So Taichi in 225 remembered moments marking Chihaya's major steps towards her dream and that's why I don't think it has any relation with Taichi or Mizusawa so if we remove this evidence from your analysis we will only have the scene from 226? In here we are reminded again: Se is a card telling Arata's feelings. I can see this clearly every time Se & Arata are put together in a scene but maybe you still are right... maybe at that moment Arata realized that the girl who took se from him grew to become her strongest for the sake of her team and he decided to give her a push using this idea but it still was used to express Arata's feelings.

    and why it's about ArataxChihaya... actually, I think that Se has different messages and the one about Taichi is one of them but I believe it's over now. I mean, I believe that Se won't be used ceremoniously at least for Chihaya's reunion with him or with him & Mizusawa.
    Se takes a major importance when it's Arata (in the sense that it describes feelings, wish to connect again, missing, wanting to reach someone etc) and it takes the other major role related to its history and background when it's Shinobu.
    Arata got attached more than necessary since his match with CHihaya, back then he realized that she is not that girl from the room that he took for granted, that he will always meet and play with as long as the room is there but he learnt that she left and he kind of lost her.
    since then he decided to "let go" in order to get what he wants again.. Arata wanted the trio actually but I didn't see any inclusion of Taichi yet in his special care for SE.
    Se was used to describe Chihaya's longing for Arata before but since Taichi's confession she started to neglect him and he felt it so he did his best to get Se back from her... we discussed this before and we agreed that it might mean that the longing is now in Arata's side, Se describes that longing until Chihaya gives him the ultimate reassurance.. um.. notice that I don't use the word romance or love much because I really don't think it's about intense deep apparent love yet..it's rather about bonding, preparing the two of them for the future love.. I do believe that both have feelings for each other but they are walking towards "meeting" first before loving the mutual love of Chiha!
    I know that this sounds vague so maybe i'll try to be more precise in another comment later? ... maybe?
    For now I wrote enough I guess and I still want to add some things,
    "Meguriaite" is a rivalry symbol and it was used many times in Chihaya vs Shinobu's matches and Arata vs Shinobu's too, now also in Arata vs Suo's.
    it's most likely not about the meaning of the poem but about the poet herself who was known for her excellence & rivalry

    I enjoyed reading everything you wrote about the poems and I'm glad to see someone else seeing more than what's actually there thanks to these poems.. you are now able to see more worlds and read more stories than normal readers and that's just amazing.

    I prefer not to comment on 2323's poems yet but for 10, I just wanted to add that "Meeting Hill" is actually a translation of Osaka hill and that's a known place where people do meet yes, lovers mainly so I don't know how much Omi Jingu can be a good fit for this meaning but you certainly are seeing a beautiful image thanks to the poem ^^

    Lastly, please don't apologize for anything again because I really like to discuss these things so express yourelf as much as you want and ask and comment on whatever you want (like even the main reason @Avish kun is so important here is that he doubts lot of things and objects and all LOL , i'm just joking but I mean some of it, I really like it when I get more perspectives, makes me see from more angles.
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    Also what do you think about Senseis last tweet about the end of Chihayafuru? she seemed very relaxed and like she is working with no sight of the end in the near future?
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Nameless-chan, I absolutely adore Suetsugu for that tweet. Like I wrote to Taichi-kun, it means we can experience more new chapters on here and talk about it. So yeah really really happy about it. That means she won’t rush anything in the Queen/Meijin matches, but I still doubt that she will go far beyond the right now. Maybe a few last tournament chapters, the day after the Meijin/Queen matches (I don’t know the cup) where Arata and Chihaya have their rematch, where both take CHIHA at the same time, but this time it’s in Arata’s field? Like the last game they played as kids where both took CHIHA but it was in Chihaya’s field. But I don’t know maybe we will get more fluff and their rematch is just teased. Anyway I am glad it will keep going strong at least for this year, I hope. I still wonder why she is still saying it from time to time. But like the majority I don’t want it to know, maybe 1 or 2 chapters before.
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Ahh, what I wanted to say already. Ehhmm, I still can’t believe how dumb I was that I thought 232 would be an complete chapter about Arata hahaha. After reading slowly through the matches again, every Reader got an powerful NANIWAZU NI intro, btw they were absolutely beautiful (I hope it will get animated). Serizawa with his mechanical voice, Yamashiro with cherry blossoms and Kuzuryuu with plum blossoms. So yeah there wouldn’t be much time for Arata. I also just discovered that Yamashiro is reading the 4th game because she has an appointment, so she could’t read an possible 5th match. That’s why Serizawa is reading CHIHA in the first chapter of Chihayafuru.
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Also something about CH227, it is really an masterpiece and the best chapter in the Queen/Meijin matches for me. It’s starts with Arata’s speech for Chihaya, we have more young Yamashiro (haha), we get the tragic but beautiful backstory for Kuzuryuu, Chihaya’s uprising and Arata’s downfall starting here and for that I am absolutely embarressed for not seeing it earlier, ARAZARAN connects Kuzuryuu and her dead husband. She sees him in the crowd with the readers card and the poem is written besides him. While reading the chapter a few months back I think, I thought that – Ohhh, what a cute message to describe the connection between them two, but I think the translators didn’t do a good job translating it- without knowing that it was the ARAZARAN poem and it was meant like that. So yeah, but I still have hope on somekind connection to Arata and his Grandpa, because the first card that got read after Arata’s dad told him the news, that Grandpa got sick, was ARAZARAN (I think it was around CH5 or CH6).
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Ohh, about KORE #10, damn your absolutely right. I just looked at the other translation and not at Mostow’s. Thank you for that. I still have much to learn about the poems and backgrounds of them. But like you said a litte imagination is never wrong :p
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About MEGURI #57 use, I don’t know much of the previous matches before right now, so I just looked carefully again over the Queen/Meijin matches.
In the first game (CH218 P6) -> It’s the first card that got read on an double page, Suo and Shinobu are taking.
In the second game (CH225 P35) -> The last card for the Queen’s match, Chihaya loses it and the match with it.
In the third game it wasn’t read or shown, but maybe some of you seen it.
In the fourth game in 232 -> It’s again the first card that got read. But this time it’s Chihaya and Suo who are taking it on an double page.
So yeah I believe you that it’s for the rivaly between Chihaya and Shinobu, but for Arata and Suo? Not so much. For that he would have taken it earlier or atleast shown some resistance late in 3rd game or now for the start in 4th game. But he is weak or Suo is just to strong, probably both. This is not a rivaly right now, he will receive an absolute beating. He couldn’t even raise his hand right and Suo took SABI #70 immediately, he took not one card, even after doing practice moves before and during the match and channeling everything he has left of Grandpa Juice?? hahah. In the 5th game when he has his chihayaburu state, then he will take it, if it will be read.
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My answer for your great SE answer. You used one particular sentence - ‚it's rather about bonding, preparing the two of them for the future love.. I do believe that both have feelings for each other but they are walking towards "meeting" first before loving the mutual love of Chiha!‘ - I agree with that so much, I never had the oppurtunity to write what I thought about Arata‘s and Chihaya‘s big moment and their breakthrough, but thank you giving me this words. I can finally write it. But most of it is just what my heart wants and my head thinks with all the information we have, so yeah most of it, is again, predicting.


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I thought also a little about CHIHA. I watched a little bit of Yoshino tournament again on Crunchyroll. Do you guys still remember the moment where Inokuma’s and Chihaya’s CHIHA cards collide? Arata is playing right in front of Chihaya, but the manga and the anime doesn’t want to show it, that he takes it. We can everyone see everyone in the room except Arata and his enemy. Why did Suetsugu written or drawn it like this? Does she really want the first highschool shown CHIHA take in the 5th game so much?

Also the more you read and understand the story, while I don’t have a creative writing degree or never ever visited a storytelling/writing workshop, it’s as clear as ever that Chihaya and Arata are the couple. But it’s also as clear to me that Arata is gonna lose against Suo and Chihaya is going to win. If Suetsugu would have intended Arata to win, she would have giving his wins more power behind them, like Chihaya’s defeats in game 1 and game 2. Also his really small character flaw (development) where he always gets pissed off after losing something important, the loss against Taichi almost showed that he openly smiled, but it didn’t show it. I think this will also play a role for being himself. Maybe after the loss he smiles to Suo because he knows he gave his everything, but after that he will cry again, but not BITTER TEARS rather STRONG TEARS (HAHA). Damn it really seems like that I want Arata to have a really shitty day, except the Chihaya part of course. Anyway I am fine with everything as long as Arata gets his time to shine too and the journey to the 5th game’s endgame is good. But the most important thing is that we have fun with thinking/talking and predicting things.
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    about the remaining chapters, personally, i’d love to know already how many remaining chapters there is, all the remaining ones not until only few remain lol
    The readers, yes, sensei likes to write about them but I guess it’s just natural, Karuta starts with them, they open the door of the beautiful world of Karuta to the players… Kuzuryu’s story was really nice though I don’t think it’s better than lot of other ones.. Harada sensei’s moment with his wife who told him she never wanted the mejin title but only his smile for example was for me as touching as Kuzuryu’s… I mean, they are all beautiful in their own ways and for their own details.

    and yep Serizawa is the one who will read Chiha, we already know that all players play equally when he reads (unlike when Chihaya & Suo got a boost thanks to Kuzuryu’s reading) and honestly, i’m thankful for that, I don’t want to watch a match and then to think that it didn’t really reflect the real strength of the players because if they pay another match after everyone gets used to the reader’s rhythm, things will probably be way different.
    And also, sensei loves to write about the things she experiences so we can expect to read more of unrelated stories especially when she writes one of her notes… I noticed that some of them had a clear relation with the content of some recent chapters like Chitose’s message: “You’ll start to work for yourself when you feel that it’s not enough, what you are focusing on right now doesn’t take you anywhere or isn’t achieving anything for you etc”

    There is also the last chapter which seems to be about “if you don’t look at it, you won’t see it” something about having to listen to your inner feelings and the hidden thoughts and feelings of other to know them or something and Sensei wrote about something like that in her notes very recently.
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    You really love Araza ^^.
    I wondered why I didn’t choose it myself and then I realized that you actually mentioned the reason before, that you loved more the poems expressing mainly sadness, longing and so on while in my case, I always preferred the positive ones where you’d feel some resolve or hope so 55 is also one of my favorites.
    And definitely! reading the poems while they are read only makes the scenes richer and more beautiful! I also do that all the time hihi

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    “he will receive an absolute beating” this is savage lol but you are right.
    Though when I said 57 is about the rivalry I didn’t mean real rivals but they are opponents fighting in an important tournament, Murasaki Shikibu was known to be competitive too and if you remember, before the Meijin/Queen tournament starts, the players are asked to pick a card, on the girls' side poem 57 and Sei shonagon’s poem 62 are used (Murasaki hated Sei So they are kind of opponents .)

    Again for 232's poems i prefer to wait and read the whole thing.
    Also for the second part of you comment I'm sorry to say this but i'll let it for later, now I really should go ...thank you for the nice tile I spent reading your comments, I really like them!
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    Wataya kun, I got you green light before right? I editied your post on the news thread, I added a pic & changed the link to the live prod-cast into a link to the archived one which is still available.

    I watched a bit and it was so fun.. fans from all over the world made the session lively and I bet sensei was glad for it and it made me glad too.. it's like I was working hard with her and people are showing their appreciation and it's nice ^^

    (there were some fans who couldn't control themselves and commented with "Taichi is best boy" to which I rolled my eyes ..really, they complained a lot because Arata is bad due to him being off screen most of the time and when it's his turn to be written they won't let it unfold peacefully ...)

    Anyway, I found sensei's message through this cover (is it a cover?) very interesting.
    So sensei sees Arata as someone who isn't focusing enough on himself and she wants that to change..it's like even the karuta he played till now was for his grandpa and not for himself and sensei sees it a selfless thing of him but wants him to be a bit egoist and strive for his own desires...
    I see Arata crushing the daffodils in one hand while holding some other ones tenderly in the other hand, is it telling that he is struggling between the two thought? to remain faithful to his grandpa or to to let go and act for his own wishes?

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arazaran said:
I feel like I'm clutching it and loving it. / 2021/01/08 07:08 (a viewer translate from what Sensei said)
The language of the yellow daffodil is "I want you to love me again" and "Come back to me. / 2021/01/08 07:09 (a viewer translate from what Sensei said)

I thought these where comments by that person?
because they mentioned it when they translated anything from sensei, they explicitly expressed it while these two messages they just wrote that out of nowhere.
Do you think it's something sensei said in the video instead?

EDIT:
it suddenly downed on me that Suetsugu's words about Daffodils & Arata are a definite proof that Arata's actions in 226 were absolute selflessness for her sake.
I say this because I read some horrible explanations by some fans who accused Arata of being jealous and trying to steal Taichi's place because he knew that he wasn't as close to Chihaya as Taichi and that he did it because he was frustrated and that's the whole reason he is depressed in the latest chapters and ofc, you can imagine my reaction to this.
Anyway, re-reading the comments, I noticed that some were surprised by sensei's words and I bet they are one of those who never really understood Arata or even looked at him properly.
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Another stunning Arata by sensei!!! Rawaa must be in cloud 18!! ;P

Some interesting disco about Se!

Now off to read the translation! :)
Jan 29, 2021 11:15 AM

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    Avish kun, Araza-san , Wataya kun & Rawaa chan!
    I hope everyone is doing fine? Your health before anything else! Araza san, glad to hear that you won your battle vs the virus (without any need for the new vaccine xD)
    And I miss this place :(
    i'm afraid i can't be free to take part in these discussions as I wish anymore. My new job is a mess! every time I get free time, something comes up and I should intervene ... It will probably drag on for months :(
    but I need this.. I'm aware, to start at the right place is always like this ... please wish me good luck!
    ...
    Spoilers of the new chapter are already out and I didn't even read 232 properly.
    Overall, it's what we expected: Arata is having a hard time and Taichi is "help" in his own way...
    I believe that these spoilers only started something for Arata .. something like how his "Demon" appeared in his match against Taichi, I believe he will be fine.
    And ofc the spoilers aren't accurate, Taichi arrived at Omi Jingu but I don't know if he entered the venue yet or if Chihaya & the others saw him. Arata seems the only one to think about him, so there is a big chance that those thoughts are rather Arata's, he still feels guilt for causing Taichi to stay behind and now also not being able to go far after that.
    .. I feel funny, I never overthought or over-analyzed mere spoilers before!! Chihayafuru is ruining me haha (or rather, Arata is!! because i'm becoming more & more impatient because it's about him.
    ...

    I feel like I need to re-read the whole thing to set my thoughts right again because I lost track :(
    I apologize to you Araza san specifically because of all the efforts you made that I can't respond to :(
    enough for now, I'll try to drop by whenever I get a chance even if it's for a short time!

    Also, I want to thank you both Wataya kun & rawaa chan for the news & the fan arts & also the edits! I love every single one of them (waiting for the last one to be added here too Rawaa, the "Blue" one ^^)
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    Taichi kun!!
    I also miss this place, the discussions in it, the details we go into, the arguing & Avish kun's doubts lol.
    I understand your situation and I wish you all the success of the world so do your best and yes please drop by whenever you can, I know you will because ..Arata?! hihi the manga will tell us more about him now se we can't miss it!
    it's sad though.. this chapter seems to turn Arata into a demon and people started already to insult him because of Taichi's words: "You are not a kind person" ...
    Taichi.. Taichi is really bitter about his loss and the 18 cards difference and while he can do nothing to improve himself, he will try to drag Arata down...
    I never thought of Taichi less than today and I guess i'm making a mistake.. but ..
    I really don't know how to feel about those spoilers ...
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    uwah Rawaa? what's this pessimism?
    how did you feel about chapter 205?
    Demon Arata is so beautiful!
    Yes the thoughts leading him there were unfamiliar but when he got there didn't he take your breath away?
    I had to take some time to process everything but all the time, i was seeing only him, there was only this demon for me, only Arata!!!

    Demon Arata is what Taichi has to spend some more months or even years to reach in karuta let alone to beat.. but Arata the person, Arata the companion, the child, the grandchild, the friend ..we all know about him..
    "even though the joy I felt upon seeing Taichi was REAL"
    "did I look down on a friend?!" and he made the same face he made when his most precious person died.
    "How could I ever think of you as a hindrance Taichi?" .. The chapter Suetsugu sensei considered so touching and painful, where she said "the way to win is a big deal".. "Arata's true heart/feelings" .." he was saved from his loneliness by Taichi" & "thank you for playing karuta with me all this time" is a pure gratefulness.

    Arata is not a kind person?
    what are worried about Rawaa when sensei literally said that "Arata is not capable of being selfish" and she wants this to change for his sake, to be able to desire things and ask for them instead of just standing there waiting for fate!

    Please don't worry.. Arata will be fine, I have faith in this.
    But his haters will talk... They badmouthed the him from ch226, from the match vs Harada sensei, I read posts where fans made fan of his hug to his mother.
    Arata will always look black to these fans but why would YOU give them any importance?
    tell me about YOUR feelings about Arata!
    that's what really counts
    and I can only see them coinciding with every statement by Suetsugu sensei and every detail about Arata from panel 1.
    So cheer up and keep doing the amazing job you did with the edits ^^ I like them a lot thank you ^^
    And looking forward to read any fan comics or ffs ^^
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    Thank you very much Taichi kun.
    Yeah, I think I was carried away a bit bc of what some fans were saying but you really are right..
    I think now i'm calmer but i still wonder about Taichi, what's STILL wrong with him?
    ok.
    I guess that I should wait for the translation instead.
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Arazaran said:

Ive gone through the chapter and something catched my view immediately
I wonder if you still remember my karuta Analyis back in december and wonder if you noticed it yourself. I'm gonna send you 3 previous images from chapters I still know out of my head.


(from right to left:
Ch 110. He against murao. Tries to activate the room but fails.
Ch 171. He against Shinobu. Activates a new picture, the team.
Ch 197. He against taichi. Tries to activate the room picture but fails.
Ch 233. He against Suo. Is desperate to activate a picture, probably the one he got against Taichi. He does this after he sees Taichi.
Also I know that your are not so keen at looking the cards but CHIHA, is on the field on Aratas side. The first time actually.
When the translations are not out**
But yeah my thoughts about this chapter are mixed. Of course I'm a little bit sad that he didn't lose yet and that Taichi came a little bit early for my taste
But if his grandpa storyline is over know with all this build up and with an ''Chihaya I'm scared'', I will be absolutely be disappointed.
But I really doubt it thats its over. I still think he will lose by more than 10 cards and kind of think, this time he will lose by CHIHA, because he still can't send it
Anyway with CHIHA on the field I would say 75% lose /25% win. There is still Yuu with the picture which somehow must fit in the story. I kind of think she won`t show up in the 4th match yet. But I don't know
But what really bothers me, that his karuta (the picture) is again not explained. It again seems like a random power up, so ofcourse people will complain again about that.
That's why I kind of think it will properly explained with Chihaya x Arata interaction in the next break.
But it's also really wierd, why he activated the picture now and not when Suo said something to him in Ch223 or after Chihaya and Arata had their talk in 226 or even after 230. It seems like an asspull, but it's explainable
At least for me.
And like Taichi kun already said, there doesn't seem a reason why he didn't start with the picture from the beginning. Is Arata really this dense?
I also think that he won't really play his chihayaburu form karuta yet. I kinda think now with this chapter, that suetsugu will make the grandpa as an hindrance to his real potential. But I don't know, Yuu will be absolutely important to the story.
But anyway thats enough from me now... again too much from me, but I had time today and when I'm in a chihayafuru flow I can't stop hahah
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    Hi again Araza !
    love your msgs as always !
    For Tai/chiha fans yep, stay away from them and focus on what you like! you’ll enjoy Chihayafuru even better i promise!
    Yes I remember the analysis, I even saved it on my PC for further study (though i didn’t get the chance to yet :( not for that not for anything else needing going back to old chapters & all)
    heck even the fan arts I wanted to share in the Gallery there is always a problem stopping me :(
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    anyway, for the chapter.
    I don’t know how much you could understand of it but I could get quite a good part so i don’t think Arata was trying to picture something when he closed his eyes he was just frustrated because he is being a failure after he “destroyed” Taichi’s dream to witness Chihaya’s dream (thus we see the whole page where Taichi is standing while Chihaya is playing with Taichi’s words: “I want to witness her dream come true from up close”.
    Arata was beating himself again bc he still feels guilty to what he did to Taichi.
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    Yep! I saw Chiha on Arata’s formation, exactly where he usually puts it.
    We saw also “Se” in Chihaya’s formation.
    For Arata’s loss/win, i also can’t predict.
    Arata is clearly invoking his “Demon” which is the real form of his Karuta (at least this is what Suetsugu is trying to say i guess)
    his demon is strong, very strong, that’s why he crushed Taichi with 18 cards (that was mentioned again in this chapter) so if he loses despite it, I wonder how sensei will explain it …or maybe she will follow the approach of: “Arata’s demon state is incredible but because he didn’t use it much, he is not yet used to it” or something like that.
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    What got my attention more is Chihaya’s inner thoughts about “Arata & having fun”
    I think she rather said: “is Arata doing what he likes?” or something along this line. she was before having fun herself while she was moving her body..it makes me remember our theory about Chiha symbolizing Chihaya’s passion/fun which she can’t seem to feel lately but little by little she is going back to feel it again.
    and it’s related to the passion she got from Arata. now Arata also seems far from enjoying Karuta so he might be inspired by Chihaya and that’s how he will want to take Chiha (but he needs to send it first to attack for it)
    hmmm i don’t know ..that’s what I feel from these raws for now. lat’s see what the actual chapter has.
    You think that you wrote a lot right? what about my reply?
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Arazaran said:

To be honest, no I didn't understand a single thing, just the I'm scared, because it was a cool little Arata ...when I tried using my phone for Google translator it was a pain on the ass.
But when you said, that Arata said he feels guilty when he's sees Taichi, I remembered these words pretty fast


These words he spoke came directly after he did..


This
Also the Chihayaburu form I always talk about, I mean this demon version of Arata. Sorry for confusing you.
I remembered that some of you in the club assumed that he embraced the Araburu Form, and he has but it's not in the 3rd game. I will put few examples next, because I think Suetsugu is trying to mess with us, with the different eyes/faces she draws for Arata and of course calling it demon, especially Hiro.


2nd game vs taichi
For me this a the demon Araburu, without a picture and just grandpa
Now short examples for him in the meijin matches


Here
It's pretty crazy how much I care for how she draws him
But now let's come to the real 'demon' Form, the Chihayaburu form with the picture


Here how she's draws arata, that he isn't thinking about anything than karuta, he's ruthless. I interpret these chihaya scene with that how she's is seeing Arata, that she got remembered from the first time he saw him play VS Shinobu. Of course without the smiling.


Of course we get a scene like this, where he is ruthless as one could get. But I personally think that this version won't take chiha (personal reason I want a gentle, but still ruthless Arata)
he demon hiro talks about
I personally really think that suetsugu saying this to us, for not getting on her thoughts too fast


Hiro again (lol)
So yes I think to trigger the Form, he has to put the picuture first. It makes sense tbh with the translated words you gave me.
BUT I really dont think this demon Form will take chiha


I wish that he will activate a new picture like this before the 5th game. Calm but sure of the thing he is doing
I don't care if it's from chihaya or from chihaya and taichi together anymore tbh
I just Want a good Arata content.
Shamelessly adding Koto oto tomare in here, hope you don't mind. Did you see it/read it? It's wonderful But yeah overall, I trust suetsugu 100% how she will resolve everything. Even if Chihaya x Arata isn't happening, I'm sure she will find something pleasent for everything and everyone.
Tbh CHIHA for chihaya is such an big mistery for me. While I know that the card was there the in Ch 100 before every confession, it can be both because Aratas confession and/ or her Taichi rejection. When if it's about the fun she has, why do we get told from harada it isn't there in her challenger match just after she reunited taichi and Arata with herself. If it's about taichi bringing it to omi why was it already on field in the first game for chihaya and for arata now in the 4th before taichi even came. It's all just so confusing that I only can think of a kinda confession from her to Arata.
Just like SE, btw did I ever tell the reason why I was so obsessed with SE for mizusawa? Wouldn't this give Arata the CHIHA card with pretty high chance? But yeah this is just me simple minded without out the craft Sensei has. But yeah SE is still a mistery for me. It is not under the cards for Arata now in the 4th match. So I really don't know anymore how Sensei will play this out
BTW I see no one talking about SE
Never
Kinda sad, because besides CHIHA it's the most important card for chihaya....
Feb 9, 2021 7:29 AM

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    (amazing how you remember the chapters, if I knew you have some time, I would have requested a list of the chapters where Arata made an appearance vs chapters without him. Taichi kun wanted to compare Arata’s & Taichi’s “screen time” if I may say but none of us got the needed free time to collect the data yet, so it’ll be very helpful if you tell us what you remember ..if you want & can ofc.)
    & yep, it’s probably both lol.

    Yes, Suetsugu is trying to make this “demon Arata” the real Arata on Tatami. the strong player that Suo mejin wanted to play against.

    Looks like Arata tried again to picture a beautiful image, something fun but the guilt is preventing him from it so he is not thinking of anything?? Murao even said that Arata looked like he wasn’t even breathing.
    it kind of reminds me of what sensei wants Arata to become, she wants him to become a little more selfish and fight for what he wants .

    Chihayaburu or Araburu… for some reason, now I have a feeling sensei let go of these words now but who knows?
    Arata’s demonic faces lol…
    I think you are right, there is a difference.. Before the demonization, Arata’s angry faces look chaotic somehow, there is clear anger and strong emotions but the real “Demon” looks rather frozen in time lol (which I love way better!) it’s more a Chihayaburu state.
    Though in his match vs Shinobu, there was rather a bit of his grandpa’s personality so I feel it very different.
    I also find it difficult to imagine how he will take Chiha without emotions or motivation? if he is empty while he plays then what’s the meaning of taking Chiha so hopefully, there is much to the real self Suetsugu sensei is trying to show us about Arata, his Karuta & his emotions.
    She tweeted today abut the manga which is approaching the end little by little the more she draws and we all feel emotional, I wrote her a comment that she read & liked, I told her to write the story she loves because that’s what I want to read, I hope she writes without pressure from anyone.
    And I believe she will make a good use of Chiha & Se .
    (I loved that page from kono oto tomare, I am very interested in it but i didn’t get yet the chance to read it, so maybe i will in the future.)
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I'm alright Taichi-kun! Hope you're doing good on your new job. Don't work too hard! :)

Sorry I forgot to ask about your health last time, Araza-san! Hope you're fully recovered and back to normal! :) Still going through your posts... my brain slows down considerably when it comes to poems and discussions about poems ;)

And here's some of my doubts and objecting for Rawaa! ;P

About Taichi's thoughts, when did he become such an expert on Arata? I mean mentioning grandpa and "I don't know who you're trying to be on the tatami" feels really specific and we're never shown Taichi thinking about this before... Last 2-3 pages' thoughts are definitely Arata's cause Taichi won't think stuff like "you are a mere demon..." So it's Arata beating himself up...

Among other things, absolutely loved Chihaya's loud deep breathing exercise and of course the Ara-Chiha moment! Asking her tasuki back!! Haha! Not sure about the next sentences she said were out loud or in her mind? Usually, thoughts are written in italics but here talking is also shown in italics, so it's confusing.

And where the heck is Arata looking when Chihaya talked to him?? Cause he's definitely not looking at Chihaya there. She's in front of him and standing, so he should look straight and up! But he's looking a bit sideways and a bit down!! Also, Chihaya is looking over her right shoulder when she talked to him but in the next panel, she's looking over her left shoulder!!

No thoughts on demon Arata as of now... but about the pictures, we don't really know what kinda (terrifying?) image he used while crushing Taichi... I'm not really sure if always uses one... like the first two Meijin matches... what kinda images he used there? Can't really imagine...

Really curious about what happens with Chiha in Arata's formation...

But, what a chapter! Those panels where Arata looks at the crowd (which looks like a bunch of demons themselves!) The crushing weight of expectations! Scared little Arata!! Chihaya calms him down a bit! Relentless Suo-attack continues!! Then Taichi arrives! And that end panel!! And then 2 months wait!!! So frustrating!!!! Haha!
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