Minigame v11: Bungou Stray Dogs | Game Over Mafia Wins!

Jackrito said:


The chance of them been a scum inheritor is still there a tint bit and tge wasted a night kill on purpose for town rep but that is tge sort of stuff you should only look into end game. So yeah I would day they are town. With grr I'm still not as certain as others just because they was a save does not mean it is Grr. We could possibly still have a real doc the fact he is not dead is a concern because his role eould be a scum target imo, but that is something that will be easier to work out later I guess.

Shinichi-Kun said:


Hmm i would understand this if i hadnt brought up that scum doing that would be stupid, if i had hid the idea i would understand but why would i go too all the trouble to bring that up if i wanted to use that as my plan lol seems very counter productive.

Jackrito said:


Like I said unlikely but some thing possible but not going to worry about it for now.

logic340 said:
When I got my role I was very excited as it's a role I have been very interested in. I am Jack-of-All-Trades. It comes with some really neat abilities but I will only tell you about two of them.
I was going to play a little more passive Day 1 regardless due to my last few games but due to my role I knew i wanted to stay in the PoE zone so I could make full use of my role.
I didn't really think about my role at all Day 1, my focus was survival and finding scum. Surviving wasn't the issue finding scum was.
Night 1 I spent a lot of time thinking about how best to use my ability. Which ability would make sense which night and what not. After careful consideration I decided to investigate Jackrito.
I received an town check, but I thought there was a potential for him to be God Father.
I want back over Jack's post and felt comfortable with my town read, so to further my read on him I decided to lay it on a little heavy in order to get a reaction. I still liked what I saw which is why I was so defensive of my read E0D2 because a lot of time has actually gone into it due to the information I had.
Night 2 Karote claimed Bus Driver after the No Lynch and that is where my I'm sick post comes from. I have put so much time into this Jack read based off possibly bad information (well worth it though).
Time to revisit my Jack read incase Karote is telling the truth (still felt good)
After careful deliberation I decided who to use my second ability to protect Shinichi-kun. I have a fairly decent record when it comes to protecting people from NK's. Which is why the Rosie kill was so surprising to me.
D3 after Rosie's flip I thought about what Shinichi said about Rosie soft claim and possibly being promoted D2 since I used an investigation N1.
Then grrr claimed he was now Full doctor after I just used a protection on Shinichi it clicked with Rosie's promotion.
I know I may be wrong but this is why I feel like I am connected to them becoming full doctor and cop (I might be wrong).
I tried to work with Karote to to help me believe his claim because if his claim was true then it mean I got results on him.
All Day D3 I kept my vote on Qoco hoping to get that lynch through. The vote was so close and I still couldn't solidly believe Karote's claim so I decided to make the gap insurmountable.
I have two more abilities that I will keep quiet about for now.

TL:DR I am a JoAT
N1 I checked Jack but still evaluated my read due to possible GF. Karote skewed my results anyway so that was a good decision.
Rosie Full cop D2??
N2 I protected Shinichi-kun.
grrr Full Doctor D3
The reason I believe I am the reason for promotion is because it seems the night after I use investigation and protection those roles were promoted accordingly.

So this is my story kept myself in PoE so that I could make the best use of my role.
If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

Jackrito said:


Ok a lot of that makes sense I can get behind the actions checking me is a choice u would do in your shoes. Why Shinchi though he would not of been my choice for a save.on the bit on Grr and Rosie I doubt it that is something I have never seen before it is normal play to have a JOAT and normal doc and cop. To tie that role in with backup roles is odd to me. Im also not sure that Rosie even got upgraded the hints do not read that way to me.

My main issue is if you checked me and got a town result but Karote said he swapped with me that would mean he was town. With that knowledge you shoukd if fought that lynch mire since a GF transport is unlikely.

Shinichi-Kun said:
@logic340 so what did u do night 3?

logic340 said:
My issue with Karote is I didn't know if I could trust his claim or not and had no reason behaviorally to believe it. So D3 while I petitioned for a Qoco lynched and wrestled with revealing then he didn't give me enough to feel comfortable. I wasn't expecting a GF transport I didn't have that information when I first thought of GF. It was only after he said Bus Driver but he fumbled his claim so badly that I felt he would work to correct it if town. I don't feel he did that, the no vote when he could have voted Qoco was the last straw for me.

I'd kind of like to keep that a secret for now as to not tip the mafia off. I will say this it's not something that can be redirected.

logic340 said:
Logic being alive makes things so interesting XD

Qoco said:
So I basically wasted a shot of mine. Fuck that shit.

logic340 said:
So you got saved for another day but you will have to prove yourself tomorrow if you don't get lynched. I really wanted to vote for you to start this phase but it just doesn't seem fair since your opportunity to prove yourself was taken away from you in the way that it was.

So how's about it Qoco? Temporary truce for a while we combine our skills and catch some mafia?

logic340 said:
When I got my role I was very excited as it's a role I have been very interested in. I am Jack-of-All-Trades. It comes with some really neat abilities but I will only tell you about two of them.
I was going to play a little more passive Day 1 regardless due to my last few games but due to my role I knew i wanted to stay in the PoE zone so I could make full use of my role.
I didn't really think about my role at all Day 1, my focus was survival and finding scum. Surviving wasn't the issue finding scum was.
Night 1 I spent a lot of time thinking about how best to use my ability. Which ability would make sense which night and what not. After careful consideration I decided to investigate Jackrito.
I received an town check, but I thought there was a potential for him to be God Father.
I want back over Jack's post and felt comfortable with my town read, so to further my read on him I decided to lay it on a little heavy in order to get a reaction. I still liked what I saw which is why I was so defensive of my read E0D2 because a lot of time has actually gone into it due to the information I had.
Night 2 Karote claimed Bus Driver after the No Lynch and that is where my I'm sick post comes from. I have put so much time into this Jack read based off possibly bad information (well worth it though).
Time to revisit my Jack read incase Karote is telling the truth (still felt good)
After careful deliberation I decided who to use my second ability to protect Shinichi-kun. I have a fairly decent record when it comes to protecting people from NK's. Which is why the Rosie kill was so surprising to me.
D3 after Rosie's flip I thought about what Shinichi said about Rosie soft claim and possibly being promoted D2 since I used an investigation N1.
Then grrr claimed he was now Full doctor after I just used a protection on Shinichi it clicked with Rosie's promotion.
I know I may be wrong but this is why I feel like I am connected to them becoming full doctor and cop (I might be wrong).
I tried to work with Karote to to help me believe his claim because if his claim was true then it mean I got results on him.
All Day D3 I kept my vote on Qoco hoping to get that lynch through. The vote was so close and I still couldn't solidly believe Karote's claim so I decided to make the gap insurmountable.
I have two more abilities that I will keep quiet about for now.

TL:DR I am a JoAT
N1 I checked Jack but still evaluated my read due to possible GF. Karote skewed my results anyway so that was a good decision.
Rosie Full cop D2??
N2 I protected Shinichi-kun.
grrr Full Doctor D3
The reason I believe I am the reason for promotion is because it seems the night after I use investigation and protection those roles were promoted accordingly.

So this is my story kept myself in PoE so that I could make the best use of my role.
If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

Coelestin said:
Great, we can clear off Shin and grrr for now.


This whole thing sounds so very much reasonable and far fetched at the same time o__o Your choices make sense though.


Ok, looking at the vote count... I suppose you guys are all in a slump right now? Cause so am I.

Jackrito said:


i'm def in a slump a lot of people seem to think Penta still not sure how I feel on it, My top scum reads at the moment is Grape/slepnirr, Denjax and Dono. Wont get much from Dono today so would feel scummy voting them and still not sure. I also think Slepnirr is not up to date so would be hard to question them. Still not sure on Kit and Quco either.

Jackrito said:


i'm def in a slump a lot of people seem to think Penta still not sure how I feel on it, My top scum reads at the moment is Grape/slepnirr, Denjax and Dono. Wont get much from Dono today so would feel scummy voting them and still not sure. I also think Slepnirr is not up to date so would be hard to question them. Still not sure on Kit and Quco either.

Coelestin said:

Hmmm... what bothers me is that you, me and Penta have barely been under pressure and haven't been questioned the whole game, which is probably part of why we're hard to judge and we're definitely going in circles at the moment, which makes it for scum easier to hide.

Vote: Jackrito

Now this will look weird since I've been defending Jack and Penta so much but town needs a change of pace once in a while. And I've seen too many people being too hesitant on the two of them now, people are barely trying to talk about them. Since we're in a slump anyways and still need to wait for people to catch up, I'll use this move to encourage discussion. I think Jack's been doing good behavior wise which is what my town read is based on but is starting to get horrific action wise.

Anyone agreeing?

Jackrito said:


Ok not shocked by this the lack of pressure on me is strange, especially after the near lynch so if you want to work me out by all means I have nothing to hide. Which actions do you class as horrific in your words.

Jackrito said:


Ok not shocked by this the lack of pressure on me is strange, especially after the near lynch so if you want to work me out by all means I have nothing to hide. Which actions do you class as horrific in your words.

Coelestin said:

Let's look at your vote history.
D1: Voting for Lucy, voting for Ruu and then for Lucy again.
D2: Voting for aa-dono. Unvoting for a long time. Voting for Ruu, then unvoting. Voting for Shin. Voting for Carrot.
D3: Voting for Carrot.

The pool of players you're targetting is strangely small. You look like you wanna tackle lots of people at once but you barely question peeps nor do you vote for them or did I miss something?

Oh and @PentaFlare
The certain someone we talked about from yesterday. I definitely have the same read on them as you do.
Another topic though: thoughts on Grape (now Sleipnirr)?


I'd appreciate it if someone would continue questioning Jack for me while I'm studying. And don't forget Denja as well, he barely has gotten game related questions even though he's caught up long ago already.

Jackrito said:


I would say I try to actively question people more then that, just because I'm voting someone does not mean they are my only concern, like I said on day two I will be honest my approach to questioning is not great never has been, I work better in a combo of questioning like me and Alice. I lack the nerve to question someone with the agrression of say a Alice, Ari you or Soren. So my questioning may come off bad and I know that. They are certain people i don't know how to approach like grr, Denjax and Quco, you will be hard pushed to find a game where i Question them. I have spend time working out most in here though imo.

On Grape my thoughts are pretty clear I think they are someone who has never got scum before and having a hard time knowing how to approuch the game look at his vote history and it is all shallow and easy targets. Their day one was bad day 2 a bit better but not enough to impress. I'm used to them having impact but not in this game. I dont want to come off as disrespectful since the family issues may of been the cause of that. But that is the feeling i got before that replace so will carry on with that train of thought.

logic340 said:
As I find you/penta/and jacks actions all pretty much inline with one another so far this game?

Coelestin said:

That's the problem here. I think people are afraid to question us because of our great trinity. Scum can easily pocket us if we should all be town. And even worse, one of us could be scum and hiding with the help of the trinity. The suspects have been mostly the same since D2, which makes it easier for scum to hide as well, cause it is easier to hold on to a read for a long time than to act like you're changing you're mind, because that'd require analysis of what is changing.

logic340 said:
I see what you are saying about the trinity. You three are strong players and very difficult to read so some may be a little hesitant to pull the trigger and push on you all. Thankfully I am not that type of player. I have had some pretty heated exchanges with each of you (my interaction with jack in NnT being the most subdued of the three). My idea with Jack was to pressure him with an extra heavy town read and gauge his reactions. I like what I have gotten but I am still working him out.

You and Penta I have been taking more time with as I know we can get into heated discussions that get off track. You also know how to push my buttons and get under my skin so I have been staying back as to not let my vision get clouded like the last time.

I agree I think too much focus has been on the same people. Grapefruit's slot got little focus D3 while we zeroed in on Qoco and Karote.
Lucian/Ruu - D1
Qoco.Karote -D2 and D3
We need to be spending time sorting other players imo.

Jackrito said:


Oh so that is why you were doing that it was creeping the hell out of me I hate others defending me and townreading me so easy. I really needed your claim to be sure it was not a deep pocket.

logic340 said:
@PentaFlare you say the Qoco's claim is easily verifiable but now you put out a plan that will keep us from verifying his claim? I don't understand the motive in this?