logic340 said: Coelestin said: I corrected your potential team for you. There are likely only 3 scum in this set up otherwise they are a very weak team imo. Most suspicious of Grape but I will be taking time to look over the other two this morning. ... Is it wrong to start believing in a Jack/Penta/Grape/Logic power wolf scum team? :| @Shinichi-kun Let me confirm again. You are a Lightning Rod? Your role says you're "self-sacrificing" but there's no guarantee that you'll die, right? i find this so weird lol |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: I doubt they is another 3rd based off wincon having 2 anti scum 3rd is unbalanced if they were what are they EVen so they should still be scum or a traitor role for all we knw Why do you think that? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: Blame me if you want I don't care tbh if he makes up a role and them refused to give me info when I ask or even vote for that matter. I can't save them I need people to work with me he messed up and could of fixed it but gave up. I get you but i honestly dont feel like he was lacking in asmuch info as your getting at. i wanted his reasons for his picks and how he got hider from his role since it is not like one. I would of changed if I got those things. |
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PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: I shouldnt have too prove it, my role is proof enough, it wouldnt make sense for my new ability to be anything but town aligned. So unless you can provide examples of that and also explain why the real inheritor hasnt shown up then ur just as much talk as logic or qc is. Also why do i need to die to prove my innocence that seems counter intuitive That role isn't a free pass. Back-ups can be mafia. We've both played set-up where that has been the case. If you want me to highlight every scummy thing you did last phase I can. The post will be longer than what I wrote about grape though. I dont recall setups with mafia back ups |
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Jackrito said: PentaFlare said: That role isn't a free pass. Back-ups can be mafia. We've both played set-up where that has been the case. If you want me to highlight every scummy thing you did last phase I can. The post will be longer than what I wrote about grape though. I could agree with this my main issue is the phase change story that mentions inheritor makes it sound like a town role, would not be the first time a host misled in one though. Her OP says she wouldnt lie >_> |
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Shinichi-Kun said: logic340 said: I corrected your potential team for you. There are likely only 3 scum in this set up otherwise they are a very weak team imo. Most suspicious of Grape but I will be taking time to look over the other two this morning. i find this so weird lol It is a strange move I agree, I coit annoys me when people force their town status on people like the way Cross does in a readlist. I don't see it as needed, I know most disagree though |
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PentaFlare said: logic340 said: Why should it be this phase instead of at his discretion? Wouldn't this ability be better served when the mafia don't know it's coming (if town). If he really is mafia then he gets protected anyway right? What do we learn from this? We wouldn't learn from it, but there would be no night kill. That's a big advantage. What logic said is what im worried about, but ya if there is no night kill that be better. |
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PentaFlare said: logic340 said: So when you weren't thinking of him being protected and though he would eat the NK what advantage was that supposed to give town? That was less general town help and more that there are certain people/roles I really don't want to die right now and was hoping he could keep them alive with the sacrifice. It was self-motivated for trying to push me closer to gamesolving. Such an evil bastard lol |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: So we are suppose to lynch them instead? Not everyone plays with a town mindset i know i sometimes dont, but sometimes we have to work with or around that jack. no i was forced to claim because i was told my lack of scum hunting made me scum which in reality it didnt, also i hinted at my role meany times. Of course I know that I tried to work with Karote, but they just gave up it , we can't work around them forever or they will win if scum Grr showed that in a recent game. i need at least some give and take with people. On the bottom bit I would not say you hinted many times at it, but I'm not the best with hints so maybe you did. The fact of the matter is if no one scum hunts town will never win, it does not make people scum for not doing so but means they are not helping the rest of us either. Felt like karote was doing his best tho i was annoyed when he forgot about the phase change. Got like 7 people scum hunting, while ive putting out my opinion and ideas where i see fit now like i aint doing anything smh. |
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Meant to say could* not should, that would imply the role has to be scummy or in the game lol |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: I get you but i honestly dont feel like he was lacking in asmuch info as your getting at. i wanted his reasons for his picks and how he got hider from his role since it is not like one. I would of changed if I got those things. Idk either tbh lol but he was def town so idk why he didnt just tell us,though it seems like it wouldnt havechanged much i feel |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: I could agree with this my main issue is the phase change story that mentions inheritor makes it sound like a town role, would not be the first time a host misled in one though. Her OP says she wouldnt lie >_> It is not a lie though nowhere does it say that role is town personally I do main reason I backed off you so much. |
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logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Why should it be this phase instead of at his discretion? Wouldn't this ability be better served when the mafia don't know it's coming (if town). @Shinichi-kun If you can be doctor saved then you should 100% use your ability this phase. Does it matter whether or not the mafia knows it's coming? It's not like they can stop it even if they know that it's coming. |
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Jackrito said: It is not a lie though nowhere does it say that role is town personally I do main reason I backed off you so much. Still doesnt feel right if my new role could be scum aligned, if ur gonna put a scum aligned backup that could get any role im pretty sure host would make sure all the roles synergize well, this role seems kind of pointless to be scum aligned. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: It is not a lie though nowhere does it say that role is town personally I do main reason I backed off you so much. Still doesnt feel right if my new role could be scum aligned, if ur gonna put a scum aligned backup that could get any role im pretty sure host would make sure all the roles synergize well, this role seems kind of pointless to be scum aligned. ...well, to be fair, it's not impossible. Probably not the best example, but UAS 2 actually had a universal back up scum role. And it doesn't seem impossible either if you look at the roles here, none of them are waaay to powerful to make mafia too powerful as well. @Shinichi-kun Please use it tonight. Otherwise we cannot guarantee it'll work on other nights as grrr could get killed before you can use it. |
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Coelestin said: logic340 said: Why should it be this phase instead of at his discretion? Wouldn't this ability be better served when the mafia don't know it's coming (if town). Does it matter whether or not the mafia knows it's coming? It's not like they can stop it even if they know that it's coming. They could be ways around it not sure but I don't think a strongman can be redirected. |
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Sleipnirr said: sup I decided make a professional carreer as a replacement player anyway I am starting backread from the page 1 and in the post that I noticed was there was not a night 2 kill is there a reason for that. I know that I replaced grape but I am not as good as him so dont expect much from me Welcome to the game good luck catching up. To your question We had no day 2 lynch because of tied votes between me and Karote, the night 2 kill was on Rosie |
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Jackrito said: Sleipnirr said: sup I decided make a professional carreer as a replacement player anyway I am starting backread from the page 1 and in the post that I noticed was there was not a night 2 kill is there a reason for that. I know that I replaced grape but I am not as good as him so dont expect much from me Welcome to the game good luck catching up. To your question We had no day 2 lynch because of tied votes between me and Karote, the night 2 kill was on Rosie Oh so thats what it was for a minute there I thought hos was making lynchs green and nk blue but it was the color of their allignment thx |
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Shinichi-Kun said: care to explain what is weird about it?logic340 said: I corrected your potential team for you. There are likely only 3 scum in this set up otherwise they are a very weak team imo. Most suspicious of Grape but I will be taking time to look over the other two this morning. i find this so weird lol |
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Sleipnirr said: Good day sir welcome to Bungou's Stray Dogs Mafia!!sup I decided make a professional carreer as a replacement player anyway I am starting backread from the page 1 and in the post that I noticed was there was not a night 2 kill is there a reason for that. I know that I replaced grape but I am not as good as him so don't expect much from me There was a no lynch D2 I can link you to where everything happened but I don't think I can objectively tell you what happened. This is Vote Count 2.11 if you read from here you should understand how the no lynch occurred. |
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Coelestin said: Are we absolutely sure about that? Also if the Mafia have a strongman in announcing it they can choose to use that ability to make sure the kill goes through. We'd be essentially helping make sure a kill happens for the mafia? logic340 said: Why should it be this phase instead of at his discretion? Wouldn't this ability be better served when the mafia don't know it's coming (if town). Does it matter whether or not the mafia knows it's coming? It's not like they can stop it even if they know that it's coming. |
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Jackrito said: hmm....I though every thing was redirected at the Lightning Rod though. So if they use strongman they will be making the kill the kill will be redirected correct?Coelestin said: Does it matter whether or not the mafia knows it's coming? It's not like they can stop it even if they know that it's coming. They could be ways around it not sure but I don't think a strongman can be redirected. |
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logic340 said: Jackrito said: hmm....I though every thing was redirected at the Lightning Rod though. So if they use strongman they will be making the kill the kill will be redirected correct?They could be ways around it not sure but I don't think a strongman can be redirected. A strongman kill is unstoppable not sure if that means it can be effected by redirects since it is normally the best way for them to kill. |
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Jackrito said: My thought would be that the strongman is on the person making the kill so if the kill is redirected the strongman modifier would go with it no? It's not like strongman is targeting another player it's ability you activate to go through protection correct? Basically Lightning rod isn't canceling out all night actions it's making the targetable actions target one person?logic340 said: hmm....I though every thing was redirected at the Lightning Rod though. So if they use strongman they will be making the kill the kill will be redirected correct? A strongman kill is unstoppable not sure if that means it can be effected by redirects since it is normally the best way for them to kill. |
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| Oh goodness. Best wishes grape, hope it'll resolve itself soon. @Jackrito @logic340 Fair point about the strongman. Shinichi's call then. @Sleipnirr Welcome~ |
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Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: We wouldn't learn from it, but there would be no night kill. That's a big advantage. What logic said is what im worried about, but ya if there is no night kill that be better. I think it really is the best call right now. If you are saved, it would look good on grrr's claim. If you aren't, it could possibly be strongman or grrr lying. However, I doubt the presence of a strongman. The kill against Purity and Rosie are both kills targeting less obvious but still threatening players. These are the ones that avoid do saves. If you die, it would also ensure we don't lose any other PRs. |
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Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: Still doesnt feel right if my new role could be scum aligned, if ur gonna put a scum aligned backup that could get any role im pretty sure host would make sure all the roles synergize well, this role seems kind of pointless to be scum aligned. ...well, to be fair, it's not impossible. Probably not the best example, but UAS 2 actually had a universal back up scum role. And it doesn't seem impossible either if you look at the roles here, none of them are waaay to powerful to make mafia too powerful as well. @Shinichi-kun Please use it tonight. Otherwise we cannot guarantee it'll work on other nights as grrr could get killed before you can use it. Lol UAS 2 is prob a bad example but i also never played in that game so i cacnt judge Were all the roles rather simple or complex? |
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Jackrito said: It is a strange move I agree, I coit annoys me when people force their town status on people like the way Cross does in a readlist. I don't see it as needed, I know most disagree though |
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Shinichi-Kun said: You didn't answer my question why do you find it weird. Is it out of character for me to do that? Or is it because I left Jack and Penta as suspects when I have them higher on my read list? A little explanation goes a long way.logic340 said: care to explain what is weird about it? Jackrito said: It is a strange move I agree, I coit annoys me when people force their town status on people like the way Cross does in a readlist. I don't see it as needed, I know most disagree though Edit: You quoted Jack's reason I want to hear your reason. |
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logic340 said: You didn't answer my question why do you find it weird. Is it out of character for me to do that? Or is it because I left Jack and Penta as suspects when I have them higher on my read list? A little explanation goes a long way. Edit: You quoted Jack's reason I want to hear your reason. REally lol that is my reason too, its just jack stated it first |
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logic340 said: Qoco said: With the Karote flip I am keeping my options open. So I want to look at things from every angle possible if you know what I mean.If we're reversing scum reads, I would look more into Shinichi, DenjaX, Penta, and those more towards the middle. I understand. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: aa-dono said: Why not the existing ones? :P i just felt like on day 3 the votes were way to spread. I see how it is. Don't worry. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: logic340 said: You didn't answer my question why do you find it weird. Is it out of character for me to do that? Or is it because I left Jack and Penta as suspects when I have them higher on my read list? A little explanation goes a long way. Edit: You quoted Jack's reason I want to hear your reason. REally lol that is my reason too, its just jack stated it first Feel my pain. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Seems more like parroting since you had the opportunity to state your reason yet didn't take it until "Jack stated it first" where is your initiative? You've been playing around with the idea of scum logic but you don't seem to want to take a proper stab either?logic340 said: You didn't answer my question why do you find it weird. Is it out of character for me to do that? Or is it because I left Jack and Penta as suspects when I have them higher on my read list? A little explanation goes a long way. Edit: You quoted Jack's reason I want to hear your reason. REally lol that is my reason too, its just jack stated it first |
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logic340 said: Seems more like parroting since you had the opportunity to state your reason yet didn't take it until "Jack stated it first" where is your initiative? You've been playing around with the idea of scum logic but you don't seem to want to take a proper stab either? the reason was pretty obvious tho lol there was literally only one outcome as to why someone would think that message was weird lol i mean jack picked up on it when i said it was weird. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Not everyone thinks like you do or has the experience that you do. Seeing it made no sense to me without context to help me understand it. Looked like shade from my PoV especially since you know I always show things from my PoV in situations like that. logic340 said: Seems more like parroting since you had the opportunity to state your reason yet didn't take it until "Jack stated it first" where is your initiative? You've been playing around with the idea of scum logic but you don't seem to want to take a proper stab either? the reason was pretty obvious tho lol there was literally only one outcome as to why someone would think that message was weird lol i mean jack picked up on it when i said it was weird. |
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Jackrito said: why the hell is that even an issue? It is one way to clear shinichi claim and grrr claim.DenjaX said: Of course you "forgot" it because scum cant disclose this very strategy or else itll kneecap them. I am watching you Same goes to @PentaFlare why havent you thought of this? If I was scum that tactic would of failed because of doc anyway so why bring it up, it would be better off to wait for doc dead before bringing it up. Its like throwing 2 stones on 1 bird. |
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| @Kit how far have you been able to get in your catch up? @DenjaX you have been quiet lately what kind of evil schemes are you currently working on? @Qoco I hope someone can confirm you or I will likely be voting you first when day breaks. If you're town please help us to avoid making the same mistake as yesterday. @aa-dono I forgot you were in the game even with you busy early D3. I usually get a good town vibe off you I am not getting here. Consider FoS on you @Sleipnirr already asked you my question. @Coelestin I think it's time you and I had another discussion. I haven't been able to get you out of neutral. If you're town lets make this an uncomfortable environment for the mafia @Jackrito I have revisited my read on you several times and I just cannot make you scum. You are either damn good at the pocket game or your town here. @grrr do you scum read logic? @Shinichi-kun I know you are weary of me but hopefully I can put those doubts to rest this phase and we can actually catch scum together. @PentaFlare What are you thought on Grapefruit'/Sleipnirrs slot? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Yes. If I was scum, I would be comfortable on hiding on a Hider role (no pun intended) though there is a possibility that there might be a real Hider role so he was at risk of counter claim. He stepped up and admitted his mistake. Though it is too late on looking back at it because we already know he flipped town. But I would like to check whether he purposely fake claimed and saw bad reactions and went with Transporter claim. I think it was a short timeline that he corrected himself but I'll go check anyway. DenjaX said: it is the other way around. He thought he was hider but he corrected himself which I find the most townie thing to do. And he admitted his mistake. What I am most concerned is those people capitalizing his mistake. So people like jack and logic? |
DenjaX said: This sounds good but there are a few issues I have. Jackrito said: why the hell is that even an issue? It is one way to clear shinichi claim and grrr claim.If I was scum that tactic would of failed because of doc anyway so why bring it up, it would be better off to wait for doc dead before bringing it up. Its like throwing 2 stones on 1 bird. 1. Announcing it like this if Shinichi or grrr is mafia they could do a no kill. We wouldn't know and would believe that the fact no kill happened clears Shinichi and grrr. 2. We hamstring all other abilities for tonight in an effort to prove 2 people. We have something like 11 people alive right now and I like those odds. 3. If mafia have a strongman we could potentially milynch grrr due to the kill going through |
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