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neonlights said: pansexual. shame thats not mentioned.. pansexual? wha? |
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Viola said: neonlights said: pansexual. shame thats not mentioned.. pansexual? wha? 1. pan sexual; Some one who doesn't care what gender people are, or what they define themselves as - will sleep with, fall in love with, etc., regardless. |
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| And if like me you just started wondering how it's different to bisexuality, go here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansexual ^__^ |
 "I'm always sleeping in my forest of thorns." - Satou Sei |
neonlights said: pansexual. shame thats not mentioned.. That is because it is redundant. It provides nothing over the term bisexual except a way to divide the "cool, hip" kids with the new terminology from the boring squares who don't. |
| Male and straight. When I read this discussion though I kinda wish (like you: Unkind) that I was a woman, then I would have so much more chances :P |
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everminded said: And if like me you just started wondering how it's different to bisexuality, go here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansexual Ah, great, so it includes hermaphrodites too. After all it is just cruel to not target that 1.7 percent of "Intersexed" people for political & social exploitation. |
| I don't understand what's that pansexuallity. Wiki in English is hard for bad-in-English people like me. |
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| This is kind of hard to explain. Okay from what I can gather from the wikie pansexual is attraction to anyone. It's apparently different from bisexuality because bisexuality says that a person is attracted to MALE and FEMALE (masculine and feminine), pansexual is attracted to MALE, FEMALE, OTHER. Other being whatever gender identity a person chooses. In the end it's just another label, the difference from bisexuality is very minor and actually a little confusing (to me at least). Does that make sense? |
"I'm always sleeping in my forest of thorns." - Satou Sei |
nexist418 said: neonlights said: pansexual. shame thats not mentioned.. That is because it is redundant. It provides nothing over the term bisexual except a way to divide the "cool, hip" kids with the new terminology from the boring squares who don't. sheesh, whats your problem! |
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neonlights said: nexist418 said: neonlights said: pansexual. shame thats not mentioned.. That is because it is redundant. It provides nothing over the term bisexual except a way to divide the "cool, hip" kids with the new terminology from the boring squares who don't. sheesh, whats your problem! One might inquire the same of you. You were the one complaining about some trendy term not being included. |
everminded said: This is kind of hard to explain. Okay from what I can gather from the wikie pansexual is attraction to anyone. It's apparently different from bisexuality because bisexuality says that a person is attracted to MALE and FEMALE (masculine and feminine), pansexual is attracted to MALE, FEMALE, OTHER. Other being whatever gender identity a person chooses. O-other? |
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Viola said: O-other? The approximately 1.7% of the population featuring some form of anomaly (not always apparent) that renders them a mixture of male and female. The most famous of these is the Hermaphrodite. I am pretty sure they are not advocating Zoophilia, even though the prefix "Pan" would include rocks, animals, plants, etc. |
nexist418 said: rocks, animals, plants, etc. HAWT. Guess I'm a pansexual. |
Hvesier said: nexist418 said: rocks, animals, plants, etc. HAWT. Guess I'm a pansexual. But are you a Necrozoophiliac.... You have to love that roadkill.... |
nexist418 said: neonlights said: nexist418 said: neonlights said: pansexual. shame thats not mentioned.. That is because it is redundant. It provides nothing over the term bisexual except a way to divide the "cool, hip" kids with the new terminology from the boring squares who don't. sheesh, whats your problem! One might inquire the same of you. You were the one complaining about some trendy term not being included. string up trouble again I see nexist, ^_^ and I'll be honest, I'll have agree on this one, kinda. pan is unnecessarily repetitive, but what are you going to do. If Wikipedia, retainer of all of humanity's knowledge has a place for it's existence than so should we... >.>;.. =_=. (>^.)> nexist418 said: Hvesier said: nexist418 said: rocks, animals, plants, etc. HAWT. Guess I'm a pansexual. But are you a Necrozoophiliac.... You have to love that roadkill.... oh my... please not in front of the kids >.<)" |
| -"Just an ordinary woman who won't ever regret, being with the person she loves." (Rokujou Ruri, Azure Dream, manga) -"Shinobu, even if this body should turn to ash, I will never leave you." (Naitou Momoko, shoujo-sect, manga) |
nexist418 said: Hvesier said: nexist418 said: rocks, animals, plants, etc. HAWT. Guess I'm a pansexual. But are you a Necrozoophiliac.... You have to love that roadkill.... It's kind of cold but it's nothing a microwave can't fix. |
kaigen said: oh my... please not in front of the kids >.<)" There is this T-Shirt which reads "How dare I wear this F***ing T-Shirt in front of your g*dd*mn kids" (without the censoring)... |
| pansexual is not trendy!!! |
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| Actually neon, can you tell me the difference between bisexual and pansexual? I kind of understand, but what does it mean to you? |
"I'm always sleeping in my forest of thorns." - Satou Sei |
| prefix is the difference, bi= two, pan= many (if I'm getting this right) so like nex said before. The approximately 1.7% of the population featuring some form of anomaly (not always apparent) that renders them a mixture of male and female. The most famous of these is the Hermaphrodite. I wouldn't demean it down to trendy, but I wouldn't call it necessarily.. useful ether I generally think it's safe to assume that most bi are about the same as pan. ^_^; but anyway I'll let neon tell us her point of view on what the difference is. (>^.)> |
| -"Just an ordinary woman who won't ever regret, being with the person she loves." (Rokujou Ruri, Azure Dream, manga) -"Shinobu, even if this body should turn to ash, I will never leave you." (Naitou Momoko, shoujo-sect, manga) |
| Pan=all Anyway, being bisexual doesn't mean you are attracted to transsexual people, or crossdressers, or hermaphrodite, so there is a difference. And I don't know other bisexual people think of this, but I'm not even interested in that kind of people, so your assumption seems a bit rash to me. |
Mortem said: Pan=all Anyway, being bisexual doesn't mean you are attracted to transsexual people, or crossdressers, or hermaphrodite, so there is a difference. And I don't know other bisexual people think of this, but I'm not even interested in that kind of people, so your assumption seems a bit rash to me. pan as a prefix has a few meanings one of being many, all, every, and what ever else. I don't mean to pretend like I know anything about you, but the thing is you can't have meet more than two people that are truly muti-gendered (cross dressers don't count for anything in this) so I would think it would be presumptuous of you to say that you have no interest in that type. ^_^; just saying its easy to know if you like girl and boys because your always around both genders, not meeting less then 2% of the population in your entire life is very feasible and more than likely. maybe you just haven't seen an attractive one. just saying for the sake of argument. ^_~ ta-ta; (>^.)> |
| -"Just an ordinary woman who won't ever regret, being with the person she loves." (Rokujou Ruri, Azure Dream, manga) -"Shinobu, even if this body should turn to ash, I will never leave you." (Naitou Momoko, shoujo-sect, manga) |
| Transexual people have masculine or feminine identies though therefore despite their fixed physical sex their gender still falls into gender binary. Thus transexual identity should be considered in bisexual attraction, not seperately. Like say a man who defines himself as hetrosexual falls in love with a transexual (male to female) without knowing that they were transexual - would he be bisexual? @_@ I would say no, because the person displayed physically, mentally and emotionally what society considers feminine. I think i've lost my point! ^_^ |
"I'm always sleeping in my forest of thorns." - Satou Sei |
neonlights said: pansexual is not trendy!!! Yes it is and has been for decades. Mortem said: Pan=all Anyway, being bisexual doesn't mean you are attracted to transsexual people, or crossdressers, or hermaphrodite, so there is a difference. And I don't know other bisexual people think of this, but I'm not even interested in that kind of people, so your assumption seems a bit rash to me. If you are going to quibble about bi possibly excluding that portion of the probable 1.7% that are physically incongruous with the dual system, then I must quibble that the Pan prefix means that you must sleep with anything and everything -- Rocks, Trees, Children, Transexuals, Pox victims, Corpses, etc. Then again, catering to the exceptions is almost always a mistake. |
| stop it with the statistics! and as said before; bi = two pan = many simple |
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neonlights said: stop it with the statistics! and as said before; bi = two pan = many simple Except that is wrong. Pan- : a combining form meaning “all,” occurring originally in loanwords from Greek (panacea; panoply), but now used freely as a general formative (panleukopenia; panorama; pantelegraph; pantheism; pantonality), and esp. in terms, formed at will, implying the union of all branches of a group (Pan-Christian; Panhellenic; Pan-Slavism). The hyphen and the second capital tend with longer use to be lost, unless they are retained in order to set off clearly the component parts. The prefix which means many is poly, as in Polyamory (of which I am not really a fan either). I am not even going to bother with the whole statistics complaint, facts are facts. Those statistics were actually from a proponent of the concept. |
| You said it youself nexist, "all" would include transexuals, etc. So i don't really see what the point of this arguement is. =\ |
Supernova1337 said: You said it youself nexist, "all" would include transexuals, etc. So i don't really see what the point of this arguement is. = I never said it didn't. It would also include children, animals, the dead, the inert, the vegetable, etc. I just answered a question about why "pansexual" wasn't a choice. I believe it was made clear int he originating post, but as it was posed again, I answered. Should we really cater to every trendy identity group or fetishist? What about the girl who likes those taller than she with orange hair and tongue piercings? When you start pandering, the classification system will eventually break down under the minutia. One may feel that labels are inherently restrictive (they aren't but many people like to feel that way). If so, then one is under no obligation to participate in the labeling game. Same goes for those who feel the system is wrong. Besides, it is all in good fun. If your ideas aren't strong enough to stand in the light, then they aren't really believed. |
| I hereby demand that "girl who likes those taller than she with orange hair and tongue piercings" be made a choice! We shall not be ignored! |
nexist418 said: Should we really cater to every trendy identity group or fetishist? What about the girl who likes those taller than she with orange hair and tongue piercings? When you start pandering, the classification system will eventually break down under the minutia. One may feel that labels are inherently restrictive (they aren't but many people like to feel that way). If so, then one is under no obligation to participate in the labeling game. Same goes for those who feel the system is wrong. Besides, it is all in good fun. If your ideas aren't strong enough to stand in the light, then they aren't really believed. Supernova1337 said: I hereby demand that "girl who likes those taller than she with orange hair and tongue piercings" be made a choice! We shall not be ignored! the purpose of labels such as these is to provide a general understanding of a group on a broad scope, as you complicate it, the purpose is lost because not one understands or knows what your talking about. that is why the system and the labels don't carter to the; "girl who likes those taller than she with orange hair and tongue piercings" she already has a place that people will know and understand, rather than making new and repetitive classifications, just make sure that the system has little to no exceptions. that is my opinion on nex's question; "Should we really cater to every trendy identity group or fetishist?" |
kaigenJul 1, 2009 8:49 AM
| -"Just an ordinary woman who won't ever regret, being with the person she loves." (Rokujou Ruri, Azure Dream, manga) -"Shinobu, even if this body should turn to ash, I will never leave you." (Naitou Momoko, shoujo-sect, manga) |
Hvesier said: nexist418 said: Hvesier said: nexist418 said: rocks, animals, plants, etc. HAWT. Guess I'm a pansexual. But are you a Necrozoophiliac.... You have to love that roadkill.... It's kind of cold but it's nothing a microwave can't fix. Rofl.... xD Thats kinda gross.. |
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| I don't understand! >< |
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-Kyo said: Rofl.... xD Thats kinda gross.. Only "kinda"? To quote Barbarella, "What kind of girl are you!" |
Viola said: I don't understand! >< Depending on which conversation, you may not want to.... I became jaded before I was 10, & look how I turned out.... |
| and there it is the inevitable joke vote for Zoophilia =_=; oh my its even kinda on topic at this point. o_o just... not in front of me ^_^; (>^.)> |
| -"Just an ordinary woman who won't ever regret, being with the person she loves." (Rokujou Ruri, Azure Dream, manga) -"Shinobu, even if this body should turn to ash, I will never leave you." (Naitou Momoko, shoujo-sect, manga) |
kaigen said: and there it is the inevitable joke vote for Zoophilia =_=; oh my its even kinda on topic at this point. o_o just... not in front of me ^_^; (>^.)> How do you know its a joke? |
Supernova1337 said: kaigen said: and there it is the inevitable joke vote for Zoophilia =_=; oh my its even kinda on topic at this point. o_o just... not in front of me ^_^; (>^.)> How do you know its a joke? Yeah! Are you mocking my sexual preferences? |
kaigen said: I don't mean to pretend like I know anything about you, but the thing is you can't have meet more than two people that are truly muti-gendered (cross dressers don't count for anything in this) so I would think it would be presumptuous of you to say that you have no interest in that type. ^_^; just saying its easy to know if you like girl and boys because your always around both genders, not meeting less then 2% of the population in your entire life is very feasible and more than likely. maybe you just haven't seen an attractive one. just saying for the sake of argument. It's just that most of those people have a hard time being accepted by society and that they have quite some emotional turmoil, (Why else would you go trough surgery?) and I just can't handle that kind of person. |
Mortem said: kaigen said: I don't mean to pretend like I know anything about you, but the thing is you can't have meet more than two people that are truly muti-gendered (cross dressers don't count for anything in this) so I would think it would be presumptuous of you to say that you have no interest in that type. ^_^; just saying its easy to know if you like girl and boys because your always around both genders, not meeting less then 2% of the population in your entire life is very feasible and more than likely. maybe you just haven't seen an attractive one. just saying for the sake of argument. It's just that most of those people have a hard time being accepted by society and that they have quite some emotional turmoil, (Why else would you go trough surgery?) and I just can't handle that kind of person. Maybe it's a straight guy with an unhealthy obsession with yuri who just wants nothing more than to have some hawt girl on girl action. And, i just wanna point out, I am most certainly NOT speaking from experience <_< |
Mortem said: It's just that most of those people have a hard time being accepted by society and that they have quite some emotional turmoil, (Why else would you go trough surgery?) and I just can't handle that kind of person. Does that apply only to transexual people, or do you feel that same about anyone who has emotional issues? It's kind of vague to say you're not attracted to a whole social group based on your presumptions of their state of mind. |
"I'm always sleeping in my forest of thorns." - Satou Sei |
nexist418 said: Supernova1337 said: kaigen said: and there it is the inevitable joke vote for Zoophilia =_=; oh my its even kinda on topic at this point. o_o just... not in front of me ^_^; (>^.)> How do you know its a joke? Yeah! Are you mocking my sexual preferences? Unless the person comes out in this forum, and explains why someone with that taste is in this club, it will remain a joke vote in my mind. and nex, you've had enough off beat life experiences you don't need add that ^_^; everminded said: Mortem said: It's just that most of those people have a hard time being accepted by society and that they have quite some emotional turmoil, (Why else would you go trough surgery?) and I just can't handle that kind of person. Does that apply only to transexual people, or do you feel that same about anyone who has emotional issues? It's kind of vague to say you're not attracted to a whole social group based on your presumptions of their state of mind. good show everminded, I was going to say something smiler, because that statement also is assuming that all Hermaphrodite's are also emotionally unstable. also state or mind rarely determines sexual attraction. |
| -"Just an ordinary woman who won't ever regret, being with the person she loves." (Rokujou Ruri, Azure Dream, manga) -"Shinobu, even if this body should turn to ash, I will never leave you." (Naitou Momoko, shoujo-sect, manga) |
Mortem said: It's just that most of those people have a hard time being accepted by society and that they have quite some emotional turmoil, (Why else would you go trough surgery?) and I just can't handle that kind of person. This gets to why I think Trans-sexualism is a self defeating premise. Studies have put forth that there are two main types of transsexuals. The first is your basic gay man who wants to widen his pool of potential partners. These transsexuals date men after the surgery. The other are fetishists who have fetishized the conception of themselves as female. These tend to date women after their surgery. This means that we have group A which is getting it done rather than accept their homosexuality, and group B which is merely an extreme form of modern primitivism. Neither of these case are congruent with the "I was born a woman in a man's body" argument. This argument also is in opposition to the whole conception of breaking or transcending gender roles. How can mutilating your flesh in order to mimic the gender to whose stereotypical gender role you feel an affinity transcend the gender roles? It doesn't make sense. Personally, I think they are just trying to find an excuse for their discontent which places responsibility outside of themselves. |
Ryujin_Kissaten said: Between straight and asexual(XD)since I love 2D girls^^ When your love for 2D girls makes you asexual, thats called being a loser. |
Supernova1337 said: When your love for 2D girls makes you asexual, thats called being a loser. and people say I am mean.... I think it was Bob Black who defined sex as "an increasingly inadequate substitute for masturbation" |
| The moral of the story, kids, is don't end up like these people: |
Say what you want but I would give up my life savings for a Shizuru love pillow. I'm very very disturbed by the fact they are sold out and probably owned by the above gentlemen. *passes out from blood loss through the nose* |
"I'm always sleeping in my forest of thorns." - Satou Sei |
| lol, now im not ashamed of having bought a couple eroge games, or even having a figurine (plan to buy a saber figurine), but a body pillow? I dunno... =P |
| Hey hey hey, nothing wrong with eroge games <_< And I really need to start watching the sub of Mai-HiME, because in the dub she has a southern accent and that's really putting me off of her xD |
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