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Apr 25, 2017 1:34 PM
#2451
Apr 25, 2017 1:34 PM
#2452
aa-dono said: it is the other way around. He thought he was hider but he corrected himself which I find the most townie thing to do. And he admitted his mistake.DenjaX said: I think you're trying to justify his role for him. Didn't he say he wasn't the hider and he mistaken the role of bus driver at the time?Jackrito said: logic340 said: Where is everyone? We need to discuss Karote's final claim. Who believes it's possible and why? I really don't know how to feel about it as I don't know much about balance in a setup. If it's scum aligned (and I believe it could be) then it's dangerous and needs to be dealt with. If it's true (the bus driver claim) then if anyone targeted Karote or Jack N1 they might want to reconsider their results. I don't buy it at all tbh they are some flaws in his thought pattern as well like him claiming he never compared it to hider which I have evidence of from the night. We also need him to explain his actions and why they picked the people they did. I see no reason to see them as town atm. @Karote care to verify? Now to question, is there a need for a transporter for this setup? Looking at peoples claim and flips makes it possible due to the setup is highly interactive. My only gripe about Karote's claims are the glaring mistakes about his claim and also the convenient timing of his claims. I find it suspicious. Other than that, his claim should be legit. It is a matter of knowing whether hes a town transporter or mafia transporter. What I am most concerned is those people capitalizing his mistake. |
Apr 25, 2017 1:35 PM
#2453
Kit said: Coelestin said: scum- the great terror, haruhi@aa-dono In case you get time to read this in the next days. Don't you believe Shinichi's claim? Kit said: Ehm I fell asleep while reading last night and only had time to catch up the recent pages this morning. Well I'll try to talk abt what I've seen so far. vote: pentaflare A lot of things about his day 1 behavior make me suspicious. Maybe im wrong but he seems to be in his scum persona where he is more calm and controlling. He also weirdly hopped on the early ruu train and I think he contradicted himself. At first he didn't not think Lucian was serious, but then later explained that he jumped on that train because it was the only serious vote. The second part is true but the fist part may have been someone else who was shocked Lucy was serious so forgive me if that's wrong >-< Can you pls link me the game where you have the Penta meta from? I didn't know that Penta had a scum persona :S Town- kitty mafia Mystery - game I can't talk about Links are on my mafia stats page on my profile , can't link cause I'm on mobile Oh. Idk if you're mistaking it for something else but Penta was actually town in the great terror xD but thanks, will look into Haruhi then. |
Apr 25, 2017 1:36 PM
#2454
PentaFlare said: >says he has no meta@Kit @Coelestin I'm pretty sure I don't have a consistent meta, except that I have a tendency to be more BSC as town and suck at emotional appeals as scum. >Gives an example of his meta What's bsc? |
Apr 25, 2017 1:36 PM
#2455
grrr said: @penta will you cause a draw today, now when you know there wont be any consequence as long as you sweet talk after that? No. Not having a lynch is consequence enough. |
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Apr 25, 2017 1:37 PM
#2456
| yes, I'm glad you noticed the sarcasm. That's what the winky face is for. |
Apr 25, 2017 1:38 PM
#2457
You are burying your face in the table to hide how much you are blushing? :o |
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Apr 25, 2017 1:38 PM
#2458
logic340 said: I believe it is a town messing up. Karote made the same mistake in the previous game. I am suspicious because we have yet to prove his role. For all we know he might be fake claiming. Just to make sure.logic340 said: Where is everyone? We need to discuss Karote's final claim. Who believes it's possible and why? I really don't know how to feel about it as I don't know much about balance in a setup. If it's scum aligned (and I believe it could be) then it's dangerous and needs to be dealt with. If it's true (the bus driver claim) then if anyone targeted Karote or Jack N1 they might want to reconsider their results. @Qoco, @Coelestin, @PentaFlare, @Kit, @Grapefruit21, @grrr, @aa-dono If I have missed your response or feeling on Karote's claim please point them out to me. There are a lot of you who haven't answered this. Most of the people who checked in while I was sleeping didn't answer it and I feel like you guys are avoiding me. @Shinichi-Kun Here is another example of what I am talking about. Karote's claim is a pressing issue that needs to be discussed yet most everyone who wasn't on when I asked it seems to have avoided this question. People who actually shared their thoughts: Logic340 - I'm not sure how to feel. I remain open to the possibility of it being his actual role and it being town aligned but he has done nothing to make me comfortable with giving him that read. He fumbled his claimed under pressure, has been pretty much MIA D3. and when he is here he isn't doing/giving much. Which makes it hard to trust. Jackrito - He doesn't buy it, feels it show's flaws in Karote's thought pattern, also feels that Karote needs to answer for their actions and why they picked the people they picked. DenjaX - Believes it but finds it suspicious. Wonders if transporter is in even in this setup but it's possible since setup seems highly interactive. Shinichi-kun - He doesn't see why we shouldn't believe it, he didn't claim a 3rd role transporter/bus driver are the same thing. @Jackrito I am in complete agreement with you. @DenjaX You're kind of all over the place with your answer. You believe it but you are suspicious of it? So is he town who slipped up or scum lying? @Shinichi-kun Do you not weigh any behavior against claims? What about fumbling with Hider/Transporter? |
Apr 25, 2017 1:40 PM
#2459
Kit said: I guess you missed the part where I spent most of Night 1 defending Ruu at the cost of my own credibility? Anyway we all feel she made a mistake and played it wrong whether she is new to the role or not she didn't play it optimally which is the mistake I expected you to pick up on. Everyone in Alcatraz said that grrr played the role right so she should know how to play the role regardless of whether it was her first time or not. You being defensive about it makes me think that the role may be a lie since you weren't very forth coming yourself with the information either and also know how Miller is supposed to be played.Well I see ppl are going to want me in angry and defensive mode! @jackrito @logic340 consider the following: Ruu never had Miller before and didn't know how to properly handle the role. I hate when players are on a newbies ass for not completely knowing all game meta ever and exactly how to play (in any game not just mafia) so it annoys me that people have ruus town play expectations so high. Miller not claiming does not mean they aren't Miller, it just means they aren't playing standard Miller strat.The soft claim is extremely obvious to me, having been in that game myself, I'm not sure what to say if you thing ruu set that up in preparation for a fake claim. Town breadcrumb their roles too, if anything it's nai but shows she didn't make it up during the night, she claimed it during the day. Logic why do you want me to say Ruu made a mistake? That's just another excuse, and a really shitty one because scum make mistakes too. I am not in ruus head so I can only point to evidence that she really is town If you want to prove my claim then invest me and see that I invest as mafia ;) is true. Kit said: Penta was town in The Great Terror, Coelesting was scum (Chione) there with Lucian/shinich, Phraze, and Togs.Coelestin said: scum- the great terror, haruhi@aa-dono In case you get time to read this in the next days. Don't you believe Shinichi's claim? Kit said: Ehm I fell asleep while reading last night and only had time to catch up the recent pages this morning. Well I'll try to talk abt what I've seen so far. vote: pentaflare A lot of things about his day 1 behavior make me suspicious. Maybe im wrong but he seems to be in his scum persona where he is more calm and controlling. He also weirdly hopped on the early ruu train and I think he contradicted himself. At first he didn't not think Lucian was serious, but then later explained that he jumped on that train because it was the only serious vote. The second part is true but the fist part may have been someone else who was shocked Lucy was serious so forgive me if that's wrong >-< Can you pls link me the game where you have the Penta meta from? I didn't know that Penta had a scum persona :S Town- kitty mafia Mystery - game I can't talk about Links are on my mafia stats page on my profile , can't link cause I'm on mobile |
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Apr 25, 2017 1:41 PM
#2460
aa-dono said: hmmm let us ask the host:logic340 said: Carrot had one night to prove his role and he said he swap me and DenjaX.Jackrito said: aa-dono said: DenjaX said: I don't. And now I think it's convenient that your role doesn't roleblock him.I really like @Qoco to claim around EoD if he wants to live because I am betting my neck for this transporter being town. I like Jason Statham. I would agree with something is wrong in that From Lamby's claim, anyone targeting DenjaX should be roleblocked. Carrot said he received no roleblock message, and after that DenjaX claim to be lifted from his role, meaning the old role is now gone. The timing is convenient. @Suzune-chan Hypothetically speaking, If there is a role called Ascetic, does people who target that role get roleblocked? EDIT: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Ascetic Adding link for this website definition |
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Apr 25, 2017 1:41 PM
#2461
Kit said: PentaFlare said: >says he has no meta@Kit @Coelestin I'm pretty sure I don't have a consistent meta, except that I have a tendency to be more BSC as town and suck at emotional appeals as scum. >Gives an example of his meta What's bsc? I don't have a consistent meta because I approach every game different based on the players and whatever is happening in my life at the time. Those are just two specific things that are recurring things in my games, but because I know about them, I can easily manipulate them. BSC = Bat S*** Crazy Basically any time someone does something completely risky or ridiculous to try and generate a read, like fakeclaiming cop with a guilty on your biggest scumread to see how everyone reacts. |
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Apr 25, 2017 1:42 PM
#2462
Kit said: yes, I'm glad you noticed the sarcasm. That's what the winky face is for. I think we agreed that different people can use same faces for different emotions :-) |
Apr 25, 2017 1:42 PM
#2463
| Also, I'm pretty sure The Great Terror would be a horrible example of my play considering I missed the entire first phase. |
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Apr 25, 2017 1:43 PM
#2464
Coelestin said: oh yeah, sorry that should be in town. Well, I was barely in that game so you can feel free to not count it.Kit said: Coelestin said: @aa-dono In case you get time to read this in the next days. Don't you believe Shinichi's claim? Kit said: Ehm I fell asleep while reading last night and only had time to catch up the recent pages this morning. Well I'll try to talk abt what I've seen so far. vote: pentaflare A lot of things about his day 1 behavior make me suspicious. Maybe im wrong but he seems to be in his scum persona where he is more calm and controlling. He also weirdly hopped on the early ruu train and I think he contradicted himself. At first he didn't not think Lucian was serious, but then later explained that he jumped on that train because it was the only serious vote. The second part is true but the fist part may have been someone else who was shocked Lucy was serious so forgive me if that's wrong >-< Can you pls link me the game where you have the Penta meta from? I didn't know that Penta had a scum persona :S Town- kitty mafia Mystery - game I can't talk about Links are on my mafia stats page on my profile , can't link cause I'm on mobile Oh. Idk if you're mistaking it for something else but Penta was actually town in the great terror xD but thanks, will look into Haruhi then. Biggest thing is the difference in his play between haruhi and kitty, I felt like he was a different person. That said I was host of kitty so I knew his alignment, and that was a stressful game for many. After a certain game ends I can say more, but not before that. |
Apr 25, 2017 1:43 PM
#2465
DenjaX said: aa-dono said: hmmm let us ask the host:logic340 said: Jackrito said: Can you explain what you guys mean. I don't understand?aa-dono said: DenjaX said: I don't. And now I think it's convenient that your role doesn't roleblock him.I really like @Qoco to claim around EoD if he wants to live because I am betting my neck for this transporter being town. I like Jason Statham. I would agree with something is wrong in that From Lamby's claim, anyone targeting DenjaX should be roleblocked. Carrot said he received no roleblock message, and after that DenjaX claim to be lifted from his role, meaning the old role is now gone. The timing is convenient. @Suzune-chan Hypothetically speaking, If there is a role called Ascetic, does people who target that role get roleblocked? Practically speaking she already replied to similar question : D (She replied that she wont reply) |
Apr 25, 2017 1:45 PM
#2466
DenjaX said: I asked this question already N1 she would not answer it. aa-dono said: hmmm let us ask the host:logic340 said: Jackrito said: Can you explain what you guys mean. I don't understand?aa-dono said: DenjaX said: I don't. And now I think it's convenient that your role doesn't roleblock him.I really like @Qoco to claim around EoD if he wants to live because I am betting my neck for this transporter being town. I like Jason Statham. I would agree with something is wrong in that From Lamby's claim, anyone targeting DenjaX should be roleblocked. Carrot said he received no roleblock message, and after that DenjaX claim to be lifted from his role, meaning the old role is now gone. The timing is convenient. @Suzune-chan Hypothetically speaking, If there is a role called Ascetic, does people who target that role get roleblocked? Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: I will not speculate in the topic about any potential roles as that is unfair to anyone if they wish to claim something.@Suzune-chan if a role targets a Ascetic do they get a role block message or just no results? |
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Apr 25, 2017 1:48 PM
#2467
PentaFlare said: You are burying your face in the table to hide how much you are blushing? :o lmfao. Unfortunately I'm not blushing at all. It's more like an exaggeration for a facepalm. I don't blush from stuff like that :P Kit said: Coelestin said: oh yeah, sorry that should be in town. Well, I was barely in that game so you can feel free to not count it.Kit said: Coelestin said: scum- the great terror, haruhi@aa-dono In case you get time to read this in the next days. Don't you believe Shinichi's claim? Kit said: Ehm I fell asleep while reading last night and only had time to catch up the recent pages this morning. Well I'll try to talk abt what I've seen so far. vote: pentaflare A lot of things about his day 1 behavior make me suspicious. Maybe im wrong but he seems to be in his scum persona where he is more calm and controlling. He also weirdly hopped on the early ruu train and I think he contradicted himself. At first he didn't not think Lucian was serious, but then later explained that he jumped on that train because it was the only serious vote. The second part is true but the fist part may have been someone else who was shocked Lucy was serious so forgive me if that's wrong >-< Can you pls link me the game where you have the Penta meta from? I didn't know that Penta had a scum persona :S Town- kitty mafia Mystery - game I can't talk about Links are on my mafia stats page on my profile , can't link cause I'm on mobile Oh. Idk if you're mistaking it for something else but Penta was actually town in the great terror xD but thanks, will look into Haruhi then. Biggest thing is the difference in his play between haruhi and kitty, I felt like he was a different person. That said I was host of kitty so I knew his alignment, and that was a stressful game for many. After a certain game ends I can say more, but not before that. Kay, kay, I guess I'll not look into stuff after all then .-. |
Apr 25, 2017 1:52 PM
#2468
Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: You are burying your face in the table to hide how much you are blushing? :o lmfao. Unfortunately I'm not blushing at all. It's more like an exaggeration for a facepalm. I don't blush from stuff like that :P Unfortunately? You regret not being able to show how much this confession got your heart beating? |
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Apr 25, 2017 1:53 PM
#2469
Shinichi-Kun said: finally someone who agrees with me xDD I like Jason StathamJackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: logic340 said: Where is everyone? We need to discuss Karote's final claim. Who believes it's possible and why? I really don't know how to feel about it as I don't know much about balance in a setup. If it's scum aligned (and I believe it could be) then it's dangerous and needs to be dealt with. If it's true (the bus driver claim) then if anyone targeted Karote or Jack N1 they might want to reconsider their results. I don't buy it at all tbh they are some flaws in his thought pattern as well like him claiming he never compared it to hider which I have evidence of from the night. We also need him to explain his actions and why they picked the people they did. I see no reason to see them as town atm. This is true i may believe the claim but i dont trust karote, not gonna just lynch him tho. Who do we lynch then if we are not trusting the person it is not really viable to carry them on they is little ways to prove this apart from cop check So just like with the mason u just wanna lynch a pr since it does more harm than anything? Not really his fault he got that role lol and had a hard time understanding it. Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: DenjaX said: Jackrito said: For the record, I believe Karote's claim. I believe people have 2 roles like Rosie have (Deputy - Cop) unless they are vanillas/goons. I think Karote might have a Hider as a modifier.logic340 said: Where is everyone? We need to discuss Karote's final claim. Who believes it's possible and why? I really don't know how to feel about it as I don't know much about balance in a setup. If it's scum aligned (and I believe it could be) then it's dangerous and needs to be dealt with. If it's true (the bus driver claim) then if anyone targeted Karote or Jack N1 they might want to reconsider their results. I don't buy it at all tbh they are some flaws in his thought pattern as well like him claiming he never compared it to hider which I have evidence of from the night. We also need him to explain his actions and why they picked the people they did. I see no reason to see them as town atm. @Karote care to verify? Now to question, is there a need for a transporter for this setup? Looking at peoples claim and flips makes it possible due to the setup is highly interactive. My only gripe about Karote's claims are the glaring mistakes about his claim and also the convenient timing of his claims. I find it suspicious. Other than that, his claim should be legit. It is a matter of knowing whether hes a town transporter or mafia transporter. What about the timing? The 1st claim was 15 mins before phase change and the other claim was right after phase change i think. So the 1st claim wasnt really that odd it was just pressured out of him. If hes a scum bus driver he absolutely needs to be lynched today but if hes town we honesty lose a powerful asset. I really think transporter would cause more harm then good tbh. I beg to differ, i love being transporter in Town of Salem |
Apr 25, 2017 1:54 PM
#2470
DenjaX said: logic340 said: I believe it is a town messing up. Karote made the same mistake in the previous game. I am suspicious because we have yet to prove his role. For all we know he might be fake claiming. Just to make sure.logic340 said: Where is everyone? We need to discuss Karote's final claim. Who believes it's possible and why? I really don't know how to feel about it as I don't know much about balance in a setup. If it's scum aligned (and I believe it could be) then it's dangerous and needs to be dealt with. If it's true (the bus driver claim) then if anyone targeted Karote or Jack N1 they might want to reconsider their results. @Qoco, @Coelestin, @PentaFlare, @Kit, @Grapefruit21, @grrr, @aa-dono If I have missed your response or feeling on Karote's claim please point them out to me. There are a lot of you who haven't answered this. Most of the people who checked in while I was sleeping didn't answer it and I feel like you guys are avoiding me. @Shinichi-Kun Here is another example of what I am talking about. Karote's claim is a pressing issue that needs to be discussed yet most everyone who wasn't on when I asked it seems to have avoided this question. People who actually shared their thoughts: Logic340 - I'm not sure how to feel. I remain open to the possibility of it being his actual role and it being town aligned but he has done nothing to make me comfortable with giving him that read. He fumbled his claimed under pressure, has been pretty much MIA D3. and when he is here he isn't doing/giving much. Which makes it hard to trust. Jackrito - He doesn't buy it, feels it show's flaws in Karote's thought pattern, also feels that Karote needs to answer for their actions and why they picked the people they picked. DenjaX - Believes it but finds it suspicious. Wonders if transporter is in even in this setup but it's possible since setup seems highly interactive. Shinichi-kun - He doesn't see why we shouldn't believe it, he didn't claim a 3rd role transporter/bus driver are the same thing. @Jackrito I am in complete agreement with you. @DenjaX You're kind of all over the place with your answer. You believe it but you are suspicious of it? So is he town who slipped up or scum lying? @Shinichi-kun Do you not weigh any behavior against claims? What about fumbling with Hider/Transporter? If they are town and made a mistake they should be trying to fix it by answering the questions at least or even putting a vote down. Also how do we prove his role and after that be sure they are town. Him getting his role wrong like that should not happen if his role. |
Apr 25, 2017 1:55 PM
#2471
logic340 said: holy shit... You are so obtuse. What is the point in saying it was a mistake when 1. I CLEARLY already said how I think it should be played and 2. Everyone apparently knows it's a mistake and think she's scum anyway so saying it serves NO purpose. I claimed my role within the first hour or so of telling suzune to add me, is that not soon enough for you? God damn. I don't know why you are fighting me the most when you supposedly town reading me. I don't give a shit if you defended me night one, from my pov you can still be scum and you can still change your mind and try to shade me so other people suspect me. You are single handedly interpreting and presenting to others that you think my behavior is scummy. Yes I'm going to get angry when you misrepresent me. You seem to think there is one way for my slot to be played and if we don't play it that way we are wrong and bad and people have a right to scum read us. Wrong. I don't have to follow "proper" game play meta and neither does ruu. Kit said: I guess you missed the part where I spent most of Night 1 defending Ruu at the cost of my own credibility? Anyway we all feel she made a mistake and played it wrong whether she is new to the role or not she didn't play it optimally which is the mistake I expected you to pick up on. Everyone in Alcatraz said that grrr played the role right so she should know how to play the role regardless of whether it was her first time or not. You being defensive about it makes me think that the role may be a lie since you weren't very forth coming yourself with the information either and also know how Miller is supposed to be played.Well I see ppl are going to want me in angry and defensive mode! @jackrito @logic340 consider the following: Ruu never had Miller before and didn't know how to properly handle the role. I hate when players are on a newbies ass for not completely knowing all game meta ever and exactly how to play (in any game not just mafia) so it annoys me that people have ruus town play expectations so high. Miller not claiming does not mean they aren't Miller, it just means they aren't playing standard Miller strat.The soft claim is extremely obvious to me, having been in that game myself, I'm not sure what to say if you thing ruu set that up in preparation for a fake claim. Town breadcrumb their roles too, if anything it's nai but shows she didn't make it up during the night, she claimed it during the day. Logic why do you want me to say Ruu made a mistake? That's just another excuse, and a really shitty one because scum make mistakes too. I am not in ruus head so I can only point to evidence that she really is town If you want to prove my claim then invest me and see that I invest as mafia ;) is true. Kit said: Penta was town in The Great Terror, Coelesting was scum (Chione) there with Lucian/shinich, Phraze, and Togs.Coelestin said: @aa-dono In case you get time to read this in the next days. Don't you believe Shinichi's claim? Kit said: Ehm I fell asleep while reading last night and only had time to catch up the recent pages this morning. Well I'll try to talk abt what I've seen so far. vote: pentaflare A lot of things about his day 1 behavior make me suspicious. Maybe im wrong but he seems to be in his scum persona where he is more calm and controlling. He also weirdly hopped on the early ruu train and I think he contradicted himself. At first he didn't not think Lucian was serious, but then later explained that he jumped on that train because it was the only serious vote. The second part is true but the fist part may have been someone else who was shocked Lucy was serious so forgive me if that's wrong >-< Can you pls link me the game where you have the Penta meta from? I didn't know that Penta had a scum persona :S Town- kitty mafia Mystery - game I can't talk about Links are on my mafia stats page on my profile , can't link cause I'm on mobile |
Apr 25, 2017 1:55 PM
#2472
| Transporter requires two targets to be selected. Hider only requires one. After a single night of sending actions, it would be really difficult to mix them up. |
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Apr 25, 2017 1:55 PM
#2473
Vote Count 3.6 Qoco: DenjaX, Logic340, Shinichi-Kun, Grrr Karote: Jackrito, aa-dono Logic340:Qoco AA-Dono: Pentaflare, Coelestin Pentaflare: Kit Kit:Grapefruit21 Not Voting: Karote What has already transpired Phase Day one! || Vote count 1.1 || 1.2 || 1.3 || 1.4 || 1.5 || 1.6 || 1.7 || 1.8 || 1.9 || 1.10 || 1.11 || 1.12 || 1.13 || 1.14 || 1.15 Night one Day 2 || Vote Count 2.0 || 2.1 || 2.2 || 2.3 || 2.4 || 2.5 || 2.6 || 2.7 || 2.8 || 2.9 || 2.10 || 2.11 Night 2 Day 3 || Vote Count 3.0 || 3.1 || 3.2 || 3.3 || 3.4 || 3.5 || 3.6 |
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Apr 25, 2017 1:57 PM
#2474
PentaFlare said: Transporter requires two targets to be selected. Hider only requires one. After a single night of sending actions, it would be really difficult to mix them up. This is pretty much where I am at as well. |
Apr 25, 2017 1:57 PM
#2475
SoulEaterQUEEN said: vote count in progress. vote: aa-dono to make your life harder |
Apr 25, 2017 1:57 PM
#2476
| Tbh if I was Miller I wouldn't claim D1 and just eat a lynch later if I got investigated. I rarely am the choice for Cops and I hate when people get caught up on one specific role, so I wouldn't claim. |
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Apr 25, 2017 1:59 PM
#2477
That;s going to be counted in the next one so it's not confusing. |
Apr 25, 2017 2:01 PM
#2478
PentaFlare said: you can't tell me you have no meta then go on the say you do have meta. You are contradicting yourself. Why can't I used the stuff you said? Sounds like you're saying no you can't meta read me cause I don't know how to defend it. Prove me wrong. Everyone has behavior patterns, like you admitted with your bsc/emotional thing. I know people change game to game cause I tend to play wildly different in different games but that does not completely nullify meta.Kit said: PentaFlare said: @Kit @Coelestin I'm pretty sure I don't have a consistent meta, except that I have a tendency to be more BSC as town and suck at emotional appeals as scum. >Gives an example of his meta What's bsc? I don't have a consistent meta because I approach every game different based on the players and whatever is happening in my life at the time. Those are just two specific things that are recurring things in my games, but because I know about them, I can easily manipulate them. BSC = Bat S*** Crazy Basically any time someone does something completely risky or ridiculous to try and generate a read, like fakeclaiming cop with a guilty on your biggest scumread to see how everyone reacts. I know I could be wrong but it doesn't make me feel better about you when you completely dismiss/handwave what I said |
Apr 25, 2017 2:02 PM
#2479
PentaFlare said: Tbh if I was Miller I wouldn't claim D1 and just eat a lynch later if I got investigated. I rarely am the choice for Cops and I hate when people get caught up on one specific role, so I wouldn't claim. I may do the same hard to say the only time I got miller I did not claim and got killed by 2 mafia teams on 1 night anyway in HXH. That was back before I knew about the meta, my view is to not lynch off that role alone but their actions since anyone can come up guilty, be it insane cops, transportation or other ways the check is not always the way to confirm a persons play should be took in as well. This is why I have issue with the Ruu spot the claim came at a time thier actions were not town and had nearly died from them,the replacement added little to change that viewt I'm all for giving Kit a chance to redeem that slot. |
Apr 25, 2017 2:02 PM
#2480
PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: You are burying your face in the table to hide how much you are blushing? :o lmfao. Unfortunately I'm not blushing at all. It's more like an exaggeration for a facepalm. I don't blush from stuff like that :P Unfortunately? You regret not being able to show how much this confession got your heart beating? Oh, if it was only beating faster, then I'd finally be able to blush... but the curse of my charm is cutting into my heart like razor blades, it bleeds and bleeds. Can't you see it? How very hurt I am? </3 </3 </3 Not sure why people are trying to question Kit on the stuff Ruu did. What do you guys expect to get out of Kit, to admit that she scum reads Ruu? |
Apr 25, 2017 2:02 PM
#2481
PentaFlare said: oh so that's why I don't remember your tgt play, I died n1. Well I don't really count it anyway so your dismissal is dismissed.Also, I'm pretty sure The Great Terror would be a horrible example of my play considering I missed the entire first phase. |
Apr 25, 2017 2:03 PM
#2482
Kit said: PentaFlare said: you can't tell me you have no meta then go on the say you do have meta. You are contradicting yourself. Why can't I used the stuff you said? Sounds like you're saying no you can't meta read me cause I don't know how to defend it. Prove me wrong. Everyone has behavior patterns, like you admitted with your bsc/emotional thing. I know people change game to game cause I tend to play wildly different in different games but that does not completely nullify meta.Kit said: PentaFlare said: >says he has no meta@Kit @Coelestin I'm pretty sure I don't have a consistent meta, except that I have a tendency to be more BSC as town and suck at emotional appeals as scum. >Gives an example of his meta What's bsc? I don't have a consistent meta because I approach every game different based on the players and whatever is happening in my life at the time. Those are just two specific things that are recurring things in my games, but because I know about them, I can easily manipulate them. BSC = Bat S*** Crazy Basically any time someone does something completely risky or ridiculous to try and generate a read, like fakeclaiming cop with a guilty on your biggest scumread to see how everyone reacts. I know I could be wrong but it doesn't make me feel better about you when you completely dismiss/handwave what I said Meta doesn't work if the person in question knows their own meta. If I know how I act as each alignment, then it becomes super easy for me to fake being the other alignment. Therefore, don't use meta on me, because I know about the only two reliable tells I have and will use them to my advantage where possible, which turns them into unreliable tells. |
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Apr 25, 2017 2:05 PM
#2483
Kit said: PentaFlare said: you can't tell me you have no meta then go on the say you do have meta. You are contradicting yourself. Why can't I used the stuff you said? Sounds like you're saying no you can't meta read me cause I don't know how to defend it. Prove me wrong. Everyone has behavior patterns, like you admitted with your bsc/emotional thing. I know people change game to game cause I tend to play wildly different in different games but that does not completely nullify meta.Kit said: PentaFlare said: >says he has no meta@Kit @Coelestin I'm pretty sure I don't have a consistent meta, except that I have a tendency to be more BSC as town and suck at emotional appeals as scum. >Gives an example of his meta What's bsc? I don't have a consistent meta because I approach every game different based on the players and whatever is happening in my life at the time. Those are just two specific things that are recurring things in my games, but because I know about them, I can easily manipulate them. BSC = Bat S*** Crazy Basically any time someone does something completely risky or ridiculous to try and generate a read, like fakeclaiming cop with a guilty on your biggest scumread to see how everyone reacts. I know I could be wrong but it doesn't make me feel better about you when you completely dismiss/handwave what I said To be fair here most people will claim they have no meta to make themselfs feel better, I don't think he meant to disrespect or dismiss you, he was just giving his view of himself most people do that. The issue with meta is it can be used to their adv as well if they know it like he showed so yes it cant be nulled but it is risky. |
Apr 25, 2017 2:05 PM
#2484
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Apr 25, 2017 2:06 PM
#2485
Kit said: penta was town in Great TerrorCoelestin said: scum- the great terror, haruhi@aa-dono In case you get time to read this in the next days. Don't you believe Shinichi's claim? Kit said: Ehm I fell asleep while reading last night and only had time to catch up the recent pages this morning. Well I'll try to talk abt what I've seen so far. vote: pentaflare A lot of things about his day 1 behavior make me suspicious. Maybe im wrong but he seems to be in his scum persona where he is more calm and controlling. He also weirdly hopped on the early ruu train and I think he contradicted himself. At first he didn't not think Lucian was serious, but then later explained that he jumped on that train because it was the only serious vote. The second part is true but the fist part may have been someone else who was shocked Lucy was serious so forgive me if that's wrong >-< Can you pls link me the game where you have the Penta meta from? I didn't know that Penta had a scum persona :S Town- kitty mafia Mystery - game I can't talk about Links are on my mafia stats page on my profile , can't link cause I'm on mobile |
Apr 25, 2017 2:07 PM
#2486
PentaFlare said: what if he didn't know what a hider does and just mixed up the naming. I have never heard of hider myself Transporter requires two targets to be selected. Hider only requires one. After a single night of sending actions, it would be really difficult to mix them up. |
Apr 25, 2017 2:07 PM
#2487
Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: You are burying your face in the table to hide how much you are blushing? :o lmfao. Unfortunately I'm not blushing at all. It's more like an exaggeration for a facepalm. I don't blush from stuff like that :P Unfortunately? You regret not being able to show how much this confession got your heart beating? Oh, if it was only beating faster, then I'd finally be able to blush... but the curse of my charm is cutting into my heart like razor blades, it bleeds and bleeds. Can't you see it? How very hurt I am? </3 </3 </3 Not sure why people are trying to question Kit on the stuff Ruu did. What do you guys expect to get out of Kit, to admit that she scum reads Ruu? I didn't know you have one : D |
Apr 25, 2017 2:08 PM
#2488
Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: You are burying your face in the table to hide how much you are blushing? :o lmfao. Unfortunately I'm not blushing at all. It's more like an exaggeration for a facepalm. I don't blush from stuff like that :P Unfortunately? You regret not being able to show how much this confession got your heart beating? Oh, if it was only beating faster, then I'd finally be able to blush... but the curse of my charm is cutting into my heart like razor blades, it bleeds and bleeds. Can't you see it? How very hurt I am? </3 </3 </3 Not sure why people are trying to question Kit on the stuff Ruu did. What do you guys expect to get out of Kit, to admit that she scum reads Ruu? I think the issue with it is that the way they did it comes off as them been over defensive of slot, it is hard to understand if a person has never replaced into a slot under pressure. Since as that person you have to somehow defend them without thier mindset at the times, which can come off bad since you look like you condone them but you need to. like I said better to Judge Kit off own play and add to others before them play. |
Apr 25, 2017 2:08 PM
#2489
DenjaX said: As I said before, I will not speculate about potential roles.aa-dono said: hmmm let us ask the host:logic340 said: Jackrito said: Can you explain what you guys mean. I don't understand?aa-dono said: DenjaX said: I don't. And now I think it's convenient that your role doesn't roleblock him.I really like @Qoco to claim around EoD if he wants to live because I am betting my neck for this transporter being town. I like Jason Statham. I would agree with something is wrong in that From Lamby's claim, anyone targeting DenjaX should be roleblocked. Carrot said he received no roleblock message, and after that DenjaX claim to be lifted from his role, meaning the old role is now gone. The timing is convenient. @Suzune-chan Hypothetically speaking, If there is a role called Ascetic, does people who target that role get roleblocked? EDIT: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Ascetic Adding link for this website definition |
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Apr 25, 2017 2:09 PM
#2490
Kit said: What exactly am I misrepresenting? I have questions about Ruu because she did herself no favors. Her replacement didn't do himself any favors. Now it's you, sorry you feel that I am shading you but this slot still needs to be sorted and I can't afford to go easy on you 3 day phases into the game. I'm glad that you don't think my defense of Ruu makes me town I would really be concerned if you did. So when you get to my ISO and N1 defense of Ruu be sure to let me know what you think it means for my alignment.?logic340 said: holy shit... You are so obtuse. What is the point in saying it was a mistake when 1. I CLEARLY already said how I think it should be played and 2. Everyone apparently knows it's a mistake and think she's scum anyway so saying it serves NO purpose. I claimed my role within the first hour or so of telling suzune to add me, is that not soon enough for you? God damn. I don't know why you are fighting me the most when you supposedly town reading me. I don't give a shit if you defended me night one, from my pov you can still be scum and you can still change your mind and try to shade me so other people suspect me. You are single handedly interpreting and presenting to others that you think my behavior is scummy. Yes I'm going to get angry when you misrepresent me. You seem to think there is one way for my slot to be played and if we don't play it that way we are wrong and bad and people have a right to scum read us. Wrong. I don't have to follow "proper" game play meta and neither does ruu. Kit said: Well I see ppl are going to want me in angry and defensive mode! @jackrito @logic340 consider the following: Ruu never had Miller before and didn't know how to properly handle the role. I hate when players are on a newbies ass for not completely knowing all game meta ever and exactly how to play (in any game not just mafia) so it annoys me that people have ruus town play expectations so high. Miller not claiming does not mean they aren't Miller, it just means they aren't playing standard Miller strat.The soft claim is extremely obvious to me, having been in that game myself, I'm not sure what to say if you thing ruu set that up in preparation for a fake claim. Town breadcrumb their roles too, if anything it's nai but shows she didn't make it up during the night, she claimed it during the day. Logic why do you want me to say Ruu made a mistake? That's just another excuse, and a really shitty one because scum make mistakes too. I am not in ruus head so I can only point to evidence that she really is town If you want to prove my claim then invest me and see that I invest as mafia ;) is true. Kit said: Coelestin said: scum- the great terror, haruhi@aa-dono In case you get time to read this in the next days. Don't you believe Shinichi's claim? Kit said: Ehm I fell asleep while reading last night and only had time to catch up the recent pages this morning. Well I'll try to talk abt what I've seen so far. vote: pentaflare A lot of things about his day 1 behavior make me suspicious. Maybe im wrong but he seems to be in his scum persona where he is more calm and controlling. He also weirdly hopped on the early ruu train and I think he contradicted himself. At first he didn't not think Lucian was serious, but then later explained that he jumped on that train because it was the only serious vote. The second part is true but the fist part may have been someone else who was shocked Lucy was serious so forgive me if that's wrong >-< Can you pls link me the game where you have the Penta meta from? I didn't know that Penta had a scum persona :S Town- kitty mafia Mystery - game I can't talk about Links are on my mafia stats page on my profile , can't link cause I'm on mobile |
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Apr 25, 2017 2:09 PM
#2491
Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: You are burying your face in the table to hide how much you are blushing? :o lmfao. Unfortunately I'm not blushing at all. It's more like an exaggeration for a facepalm. I don't blush from stuff like that :P Unfortunately? You regret not being able to show how much this confession got your heart beating? Oh, if it was only beating faster, then I'd finally be able to blush... but the curse of my charm is cutting into my heart like razor blades, it bleeds and bleeds. Can't you see it? How very hurt I am? </3 </3 </3 You desperately desire love, but are too charming to be phased by a public confession. You've had many of them already. What are you going to do? Can anyone get to your heart and heal it? |
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Apr 25, 2017 2:09 PM
#2492
PentaFlare said: I'm not even sure I would claim because I'm wary about claiming and I'm never lynched and hardly ever suspected. Which is why I didn't come into the thread shouting I AM MILLER in my first post, I wanted to confirm that Ruu really did claim.Tbh if I was Miller I wouldn't claim D1 and just eat a lynch later if I got investigated. I rarely am the choice for Cops and I hate when people get caught up on one specific role, so I wouldn't claim. |
Apr 25, 2017 2:10 PM
#2493
Kit said: PentaFlare said: what if he didn't know what a hider does and just mixed up the naming. I have never heard of hider myself Transporter requires two targets to be selected. Hider only requires one. After a single night of sending actions, it would be really difficult to mix them up. They admitted otherwise. You'll find the post once you've caught up. |
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Apr 25, 2017 2:10 PM
#2494
PentaFlare said: /barn that.Transporter requires two targets to be selected. Hider only requires one. After a single night of sending actions, it would be really difficult to mix them up. That is the problem I have with him saying "I picked Jack N1" instead of saying "I picked Jack and myself N1" |
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Apr 25, 2017 2:11 PM
#2495
grrr said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: You are burying your face in the table to hide how much you are blushing? :o lmfao. Unfortunately I'm not blushing at all. It's more like an exaggeration for a facepalm. I don't blush from stuff like that :P Unfortunately? You regret not being able to show how much this confession got your heart beating? Oh, if it was only beating faster, then I'd finally be able to blush... but the curse of my charm is cutting into my heart like razor blades, it bleeds and bleeds. Can't you see it? How very hurt I am? </3 </3 </3 Not sure why people are trying to question Kit on the stuff Ruu did. What do you guys expect to get out of Kit, to admit that she scum reads Ruu? I didn't know you have one : D Oh, I have one. It's made out of chocolate. Jackrito said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: You are burying your face in the table to hide how much you are blushing? :o lmfao. Unfortunately I'm not blushing at all. It's more like an exaggeration for a facepalm. I don't blush from stuff like that :P Unfortunately? You regret not being able to show how much this confession got your heart beating? Oh, if it was only beating faster, then I'd finally be able to blush... but the curse of my charm is cutting into my heart like razor blades, it bleeds and bleeds. Can't you see it? How very hurt I am? </3 </3 </3 Not sure why people are trying to question Kit on the stuff Ruu did. What do you guys expect to get out of Kit, to admit that she scum reads Ruu? I think the issue with it is that the way they did it comes off as them been over defensive of slot, it is hard to understand if a person has never replaced into a slot under pressure. Since as that person you have to somehow defend them without thier mindset at the times, which can come off bad since you look like you condone them but you need to. like I said better to Judge Kit off own play and add to others before them play. Yeah, pretty much. |
Apr 25, 2017 2:13 PM
#2496
Coelestin said: nothing to admit because I don't see ruus actions as scummy at all. I found Lucian to be scummy but he turned out town lol. Ruu did nothing wrong besides become a target to people that got extremely up in arms and then being unable to properly defend herself.PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: You are burying your face in the table to hide how much you are blushing? :o lmfao. Unfortunately I'm not blushing at all. It's more like an exaggeration for a facepalm. I don't blush from stuff like that :P Unfortunately? You regret not being able to show how much this confession got your heart beating? Oh, if it was only beating faster, then I'd finally be able to blush... but the curse of my charm is cutting into my heart like razor blades, it bleeds and bleeds. Can't you see it? How very hurt I am? </3 </3 </3 Not sure why people are trying to question Kit on the stuff Ruu did. What do you guys expect to get out of Kit, to admit that she scum reads Ruu? |
Apr 25, 2017 2:14 PM
#2497
PentaFlare said: Kit said: PentaFlare said: Transporter requires two targets to be selected. Hider only requires one. After a single night of sending actions, it would be really difficult to mix them up. They admitted otherwise. You'll find the post once you've caught up. logic340 said: I see, this is quite suspPentaFlare said: /barn that.Transporter requires two targets to be selected. Hider only requires one. After a single night of sending actions, it would be really difficult to mix them up. That is the problem I have with him saying "I picked Jack N1" instead of saying "I picked Jack and myself N1" |
Apr 25, 2017 2:14 PM
#2498
logic340 said: that is interesting. If Karote REALLY did not get roleblock result could mean:DenjaX said: I asked this question already N1 she would not answer it. aa-dono said: logic340 said: Carrot had one night to prove his role and he said he swap me and DenjaX.Jackrito said: Can you explain what you guys mean. I don't understand?aa-dono said: DenjaX said: I don't. And now I think it's convenient that your role doesn't roleblock him.I really like @Qoco to claim around EoD if he wants to live because I am betting my neck for this transporter being town. I like Jason Statham. I would agree with something is wrong in that From Lamby's claim, anyone targeting DenjaX should be roleblocked. Carrot said he received no roleblock message, and after that DenjaX claim to be lifted from his role, meaning the old role is now gone. The timing is convenient. @Suzune-chan Hypothetically speaking, If there is a role called Ascetic, does people who target that role get roleblocked? Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: @Suzune-chan if a role targets a Ascetic do they get a role block message or just no results? 1. He followed NAR which means he cant be roleblocked because busdriver preceeds roleblocks. 2. I am no longer Ascetic I think i can buy the first reason. |
Apr 25, 2017 2:14 PM
#2499
Kit said: PentaFlare said: I'm not even sure I would claim because I'm wary about claiming and I'm never lynched and hardly ever suspected. Which is why I didn't come into the thread shouting I AM MILLER in my first post, I wanted to confirm that Ruu really did claim.Tbh if I was Miller I wouldn't claim D1 and just eat a lynch later if I got investigated. I rarely am the choice for Cops and I hate when people get caught up on one specific role, so I wouldn't claim. With that play style in future you may want to claim if miller as strange as it sounds, if you are never suspected imo they are the best cop checks since it one of the better ways to catch someone who is good. A lot of that depends on the game though |
Apr 25, 2017 2:16 PM
#2500
Jackrito said: I didn't start out defending, it's all anyone ever pings me about! And I'm fighting for Penta lynch as well but being dismissed by everyone. I even commented on karote and logic. I can't do EVERYTHING, I'm on mobile and 40 pages behindCoelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: You are burying your face in the table to hide how much you are blushing? :o lmfao. Unfortunately I'm not blushing at all. It's more like an exaggeration for a facepalm. I don't blush from stuff like that :P Unfortunately? You regret not being able to show how much this confession got your heart beating? Oh, if it was only beating faster, then I'd finally be able to blush... but the curse of my charm is cutting into my heart like razor blades, it bleeds and bleeds. Can't you see it? How very hurt I am? </3 </3 </3 Not sure why people are trying to question Kit on the stuff Ruu did. What do you guys expect to get out of Kit, to admit that she scum reads Ruu? I think the issue with it is that the way they did it comes off as them been over defensive of slot, it is hard to understand if a person has never replaced into a slot under pressure. Since as that person you have to somehow defend them without thier mindset at the times, which can come off bad since you look like you condone them but you need to. like I said better to Judge Kit off own play and add to others before them play. |
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