Jackrito said: Coelestin said: Lol? I've always wondered what people are talking when they mention Jack's superhuman scum play. Not to be rude but in the one scum game I've played with him he seemed to be pretty humane. But there was also Ari in that game who caught him so maybe it was just because of that xD If that is the game I think it was Ari caaught me because my teammate referred to me by name and she got that in a spy Report. Still annoyed about that. Oh RIP. That explains that too. |
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| Eiii~ Karote's claim was scummy, but I can't relate it to his behaviour. I can see him trying to get reads in Day 2. But anyway, @Grapefruit21 why would you place Abu on a higher priority than Karote? @Qoco & @Shinichi-Kun funny little question. But a serious one. Did you read the roles in the rules/setup post? |
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aa-dono said: Eiii~ Karote's claim was scummy, but I can't relate it to his behaviour. I can see him trying to get reads in Day 2. But anyway, @Grapefruit21 why would you place Abu on a higher priority than Karote? @Qoco & @Shinichi-Kun funny little question. But a serious one. Did you read the roles in the rules/setup post? Have you got a example of his reads, |
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aa-dono said: Eiii~ Karote's claim was scummy, but I can't relate it to his behaviour. I can see him trying to get reads in Day 2. But anyway, @Grapefruit21 why would you place Abu on a higher priority than Karote? @Qoco & @Shinichi-Kun funny little question. But a serious one. Did you read the roles in the rules/setup post? Because Karote hasn't claimed Miller and had a scummy history that carried over from D1. Anyway off to bed. Check back in the morning. |
| @aa-dono You mentioned not finding Chi to be looking at motive for player's actions. Can you find me an example of a read she has made where she doesn't do this? |
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Jackrito said: I'm too tired to go back and link.aa-dono said: Eiii~ Karote's claim was scummy, but I can't relate it to his behaviour. I can see him trying to get reads in Day 2. But anyway, @Grapefruit21 why would you place Abu on a higher priority than Karote? @Qoco & @Shinichi-Kun funny little question. But a serious one. Did you read the roles in the rules/setup post? Have you got a example of his reads, I know he commented about Penta's and Chione's reads. Then he tried sorting out Rosie. There was also my sudden vote on Shinichi-Kun and he questioned it, when he said sometime before that that I wasn't scummy. The first part could be general since it was him responding to questions. But the second part is self-initiation. He already gave a sort of opinion on me, why the need to revise it if he wasn't trying to read people? |
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PentaFlare said: I'll get to this later. Gonna take a break for a while.@aa-dono You mentioned not finding Chi to be looking at motive for player's actions. Can you find me an example of a read she has made where she doesn't do this? |
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Grapefruit21 said: My stance is if he is getting replaced or Modkilled we leave them be for now. I have seen town double replace in a games as well so double replacing isn't something to place a vote off of. I still think there is a good chance this slot is actually town and if they really are miller then mafia can push this lynch without having to worry too much because who wants a miller in the game? I would say let the vig deal with them save the next replacement or let them get modkilled. Let focus on players we can actually get reads off of and work on making Qoco and Karote tell us their dark secrets. I'd like stances on Abu from everyone at this stage. I won't waste everyone's time pushing nothing but that lynch all day, but I will push it EoD if a more compelling alternative does not emerge. @ All are you willing to lynch Abu? Grapefruit21 said: Karote was JustKrista in Alcatraz game. He was also in Digaea with us you have played with him 3 or 4 times now. @aa-dono okay, I can follow all of that. I suppose at this point I should really go back and see if Coelestin was posting between Karote's claim and the end of the phase. Either way I think I still just find him more suspect than anyone on his wagon, but I'm not familiar with Karote and his meta. aa-dono said: Since he lied/mistake his role PM, I'm not really sure where to place him, but I don't think the votes on Jack is suspicious. Qoco had been showing his disagreement with Jack since few hours before phase change if I recall it right. I think Shinichi's vote is justified. Well, I don't expect people to believe my vote, but I think it's justified. And Carrot wants to save himself. This however: Karote: Coelestin, Grapefruit21, logic340, Jackrito stayed even after Carrot's claim. Grape wasn't around so that's ok, maybe. Jack, similar to Carrot, it wasn't wise of him to remove his vote. logic seems biasedly townreading Jack and protective of him regardless. Plus, he didn't believe the claim. So Coel's vote is a lot more suspicious imo. Do you townread Jack that much to protect him? Or scumread Karote a lot? I could see the vote on Jack as a self preservation vote, but agreeing with Qoco's reasoning (which I find unjustified) doesn't help his case any. Logic's strongest town read was almost lynched in the last 30 mionutes on one of the weakest cases to date in this game. Qoco's case had been destroyed well before anyone else voted for such petty reasons and anyone who voted for Qoco's reasons should be under heavy scrutiny right now. Damn right Logic tried to save his town read of his scum read. Damn right with less than 5 minutes until phase change I found Karoe's claim to be questionable. His claim came at 8:57 (3 minutes before phase change. Do you really feel that in 3 minutes it's enough time to digest that claim and move a vote to a reasonable place? I think what you are saying about me is unreasonable given the amount of time I had to make a choice. aa-dono said: 1. I would need you to give me some examples of this. Also when did I say that Penta doesn't lie as town? Regardless of whether Penta lies as town or not is irrelevant to the subject at hand which is Qoco losing all credibility over his lie D1.logic340 said: Not necessarily true. Penta lies even as town.I don't see the benefit of lying as it destroys trust once their depict. Qoco has lost all credibility lying D1 and if he isn't going to work on gaining it back he can face the gallows today. You should be more skeptical of Qoco considering you classed him as grrr 2.0 in our last game? logic340 said: And?Time to back out the tunnel going to look over dono for a while. 2. And I haven't gotten around to it yet? These seems quite defensive I didn't scum read you yesterday are you opposed to me reevaluating my stance on you? |
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logic340 said: I didn't say anything about your vote not justified. I thought it was reasonable because you didn't believe the claim.aa-dono said: Since he lied/mistake his role PM, I'm not really sure where to place him, but I don't think the votes on Jack is suspicious. Qoco had been showing his disagreement with Jack since few hours before phase change if I recall it right. I think Shinichi's vote is justified. Well, I don't expect people to believe my vote, but I think it's justified. And Carrot wants to save himself. This however: Karote: Coelestin, Grapefruit21, logic340, Jackrito stayed even after Carrot's claim. Grape wasn't around so that's ok, maybe. Jack, similar to Carrot, it wasn't wise of him to remove his vote. logic seems biasedly townreading Jack and protective of him regardless. Plus, he didn't believe the claim. So Coel's vote is a lot more suspicious imo. Do you townread Jack that much to protect him? Or scumread Karote a lot? I could see the vote on Jack as a self preservation vote, but agreeing with Qoco's reasoning (which I find unjustified) doesn't help his case any. Logic's strongest town read was almost lynched in the last 30 mionutes on one of the weakest cases to date in this game. Qoco's case had been destroyed well before anyone else voted for such petty reasons and anyone who voted for Qoco's reasons should be under heavy scrutiny right now. Damn right Logic tried to save his town read of his scum read. Damn right with less than 5 minutes until phase change I found Karoe's claim to be questionable. His claim came at 8:57 (3 minutes before phase change. Do you really feel that in 3 minutes it's enough time to digest that claim and move a vote to a reasonable place? I think what you are saying about me is unreasonable given the amount of time I had to make a choice. |
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aa-dono said: IDK reading what you said about me feels like it's being looked at in a negative light but I guess it could just be you stating facts.logic340 said: I didn't say anything about your vote not justified. I thought it was reasonable because you didn't believe the claim.I could see the vote on Jack as a self preservation vote, but agreeing with Qoco's reasoning (which I find unjustified) doesn't help his case any. Logic's strongest town read was almost lynched in the last 30 mionutes on one of the weakest cases to date in this game. Qoco's case had been destroyed well before anyone else voted for such petty reasons and anyone who voted for Qoco's reasons should be under heavy scrutiny right now. Damn right Logic tried to save his town read of his scum read. Damn right with less than 5 minutes until phase change I found Karoe's claim to be questionable. His claim came at 8:57 (3 minutes before phase change. Do you really feel that in 3 minutes it's enough time to digest that claim and move a vote to a reasonable place? I think what you are saying about me is unreasonable given the amount of time I had to make a choice. "logic seems biasedly townreading Jack and protective of him regardless. Plus, he didn't believe the claim." My top town read and a scum read since D1. I even said i would do an ISO to show my read if people didn't believe me (while you refuse to do one to support your vote)? Which way would you have voted if it was you? Karote's claim with 3 minutes until the phase change (fumbled or lied) I didn't have time to digest the claim (never heard of the role before so I had questions) let alone believe it before he came forward switching his claim to transporter. |
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aa-dono said: I'm going to need you to cite posts or quote something as a source to verify this. I don't think I have seen anything that I would consider Karote trying to make reads. Especially since when I asked him on page 38 of 39 (I believe) he said he had none. #1884 he's not confident enough in his reads to put out a reads list. Why does he need to be confident? Read lists are subject to change shit I've put out at least 2 maybe 3 to this point. I'm too tired to go back and link. I know he commented about Penta's and Chione's reads. Then he tried sorting out Rosie. There was also my sudden vote on Shinichi-Kun and he questioned it, when he said sometime before that that I wasn't scummy. The first part could be general since it was him responding to questions. But the second part is self-initiation. He already gave a sort of opinion on me, why the need to revise it if he wasn't trying to read people? |
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Karote said: Sigh. It had weird role name and abilities were similar to Hider, so that's what came in mind. Didn't meant to lie. I said Jackrito with myself. Ok after I checked the last night and so far today, they has been no answer to this, unless I missed it. So will bring it back up here you say your role has a weird name and is similar to hider, so why have you changed the name to transporter and what is this strange name, normally a person would claim thier full role, they is no reason to hide it at this point. It makes no sense your thought pattern here |
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Karote said: This is another reason I don't believe your transporter claim. If you are a transporter you have two targets not one yet here you said "I used my ability on Jack btw (first night)" rather than "I used my ability on Jack and myself (First Night)"I used my ability on Jack btw. (First Night) If someone can reconcile how he made this mistake? Though at this point it seems very unlikely to me. |
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logic340 said: Karote said: This is another reason I don't believe your transporter claim. If you are a transporter you have two targets not one yet here you said "I used my ability on Jack btw (first night)" rather than "I used my ability on Jack and myself (First Night)"I used my ability on Jack btw. (First Night) If someone can reconcile how he made this mistake? Though at this point it seems very unlikely to me. i have no idea based off that it sounds like a hider but he said the name transporter which is why I want a answer to my last post. They are some other possible roles that he got mixed up with but not saying since that could give him a way out. If he is town and gets lynched he has no one to blame but himself tbh since it should not be that hard to claim a role. It does remind me of a old game where someone was a neighbouriser but said they were a mason because misunderstood role and got lynched for it. |
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aa-dono said: I've know my role since D1 if I get in a claim situation I am surely not going to fumble it like that and claim a role that isn't mine. Also in every game I have played i have known my role and how to claim it if needed. I don't see an experienced player like Karote fumbling their role like that. If anything it was a blatant lie because he felt transporter wouldn't move the votes. Not sure how that would even happen on D2 when one of the first things you should do is verify your role? Are you telling me that Karoe though he was hider form D1 and thought he hid behind Jack instead of swapping their roles. Grapefruit21 said: He tunnels. And it NAI for me.Because I've had a biased town read on Coel for a while now that I need to reevalutate. Why do you find logic's reasonable? Idk really, I don't get the logic townvibe in this game, but I don't see any inconsistencies too. If Karote's scum, then that would clear logic. Not so much Jack though since I can see Jack bussing Karote. But still, they're both likely town if Carrot's scum. But if Carrot's town, I'll probably pull a guilty card on logic. That anger seems unjustified since town could make any mistake during panic. He could be mad, but I find it likelier than it was scum!logic being mad because he couldn't comprehend why no one sees his view on why Carrot's scum despite all the scummy behaviour. aa-dono said: I believe that snip about Coelestin is from one of my read lists.Pretty sure that's not me. I wouldn't use swear words :P But no, it's not about you being good as mafia. I distrust you for your tone. Also, while I think your reads have good backings, it felt easy. As long as they're scummy, they're scum. You mentioned looking over the motivation behind posts, but eh, I just don't get the feeling that you're doing that. |
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DenjaX said: It wouldn't have been the first time Karote mixed up his own role. I can't remember which game was it though.  Corrupted Purity dies: They were Mori Ougai Oyasumi_Rosie has died So knowing wht I know about my own role card and seeing 2 role pms (sample and Purity) should have made it clear how to read these role cards. I don't see any excuse for mixing up your role when it is so easily visable on the role card what your role is. Rosie's is here as another example so I don't buy that he mixed up "Hider" and "Transporter" based on the role PM's I am seeing here and what I know about my own. |
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logic340 said: DenjaX said: It wouldn't have been the first time Karote mixed up his own role. I can't remember which game was it though. Corrupted Purity dies: They were Mori Ougai Oyasumi_Rosie has died So knowing wht I know about my own role card and seeing 2 role pms (sample and Purity) should have made it clear how to read these role cards. I don't see any excuse for mixing up your role when it is so easily visable on the role card what your role is. Rosie's is here as another example so I don't buy that he mixed up "Hider" and "Transporter" based on the role PM's I am seeing here and what I know about my own. yeah pretty clear off that top part is the abity name for flavor purpose but bottom is the actual role in normal terms so it is pretty clear what his role is mine works the same way. |
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aa-dono said: Grapefruit21 said: At the time, he claimed a town role. Behaviour is a tell, but some people just exudes those scum traits because they're either not analytical enough, or not posting the way pro-town is expected.I'm having a really hard time following the internal logic of this post. You find all of the stated reasons for voting Jack reasonable. But you find people not moving off suspect? Why would the (at the time) Hider claim be so town that you'd expect the wagon to completely dissipate given that claim and it's timing despite his behaviour? On pushing Karote today: His behaviour isn't town, he claimed a provable role but hasn't even claimed his targets for the day to try and help us sort out if his behaviour there is town+ or not. Plus the whole changing his claim snafu doesn't look good. Sidebar: I saw someone say he should hide that information, given that he's outed his role I see no advantage to not claiming targets from the previous night. If someone can explain one to me I'll retract my request. Anyway back to Dono's post I guess I'm just having trouble seeing why you find the votes on Karote suspicious in light of his claim given the circumstances. Karote's activity has been judged in previous games I played with too. One, like he said, he's not really a Day 1 participant. Two, I am more sceptical of a pro-town Karote than not. I wouldn't put this on logic since he played with awesome active players in the club when he started out. But older ones like Coel & Jack would have known Carrot's behaviour. Though I tried to ignore those meta and goes for at the time scenario. When someone claimed a town role, wouldn't you back off? Jack had no reason to since it was his train that people jumped to. logic doesn't know what a hider is. And the one left is Coelestin. Which is what I'm trying to find out. Not really against lynching Karote today. Hider and Transported doesn't even rhyme. :/ Doesn't feel like a believable mistake. As for your sidebar, I have no clue. Honestly i completely get where she is coming from, and dono honestly makes a very fair point. I mean still pretty biased assumption atleast others will see it that way but i sitll understand her point about chione nonetheless. |
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Grapefruit21 said: Because I've had a biased town read on Coel for a while now that I need to reevalutate. Why do you find logic's reasonable? I guess thats why people dislike me cause i drop town reads super fast at the slighest signs, and personality changes. |
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Coelestin said: Vote: aa-dono This scummy behavior lasting for two days isn't coincidence anymore. I've waited too long to place this vote, should've done it sooner. Your talk seems all nice but I still haven't seen noteworthy scum hunting actions that would make me wanna town read you. The pool of people you actually suspect is unnaturally narrow. I've had enough, you're too scummy. You may have been able to talk yourself out of stuff but actions speak louder than words. It's already unbelievable that you've gotten away without having a train on you yesterday but Penta and I are onto you today. As much as i understand where your coming from i dont see how someones scumminess can be judged by lack of scum hunting. If thats the case then we already have 5 scum: Me,Dono,Qoco,Karote,Abu. If u remove the claimers it leaves just qoco and dono. The pool of people i suspect changes every phase and through the littlest of actions its why i never have a solid read. Like i said dont i understand this from a town POV so i won't try to stop it because that just be silly. aa-dono said: Coelestin said: Can't help about it being narrow.Vote: aa-dono This scummy behavior lasting for two days isn't coincidence anymore. I've waited too long to place this vote, should've done it sooner. Your talk seems all nice but I still haven't seen noteworthy scum hunting actions that would make me wanna town read you. The pool of people you actually suspect is unnaturally narrow. I've had enough, you're too scummy. You may have been able to talk yourself out of stuff but actions speak louder than words. It's already unbelievable that you've gotten away without having a train on you yesterday but Penta and I are onto you today. @aa-dono The Carrot claim doesn't sound fishy to you? I will only be willing to lynch aa-dono or Carrot today unless something else should give me heavy doubts. One of them is surely scum. Jack and Penta are 100% town. If these statements aren't true then I'll never trust my great scum hunting record again. At that time nope. The Transporter claim, yes. If Carrot flips scum, I guess you can trust your scum hunting record. But then again, it's a record. Past collections. Do u really consider hider and transporter similar enough to confuse the roles? |
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Grapefruit21 said: @Coelestin I'm mostly town reading Penta, but the jumping around and long explanation of what they were doing reminds me of their scum game in Harhui Mafia. That said nothing Penta has done has struck me as overly scummy. I can squint and see the tying vote as a scum move, but I have a hard time believing that was intentional. As for dono I can see the case for scum dono, but I'd rather lynch Abu, qoco or Karote. Dono is going to keep talking and they will make themselves clearer over time, unless unexpected things happen that first group pretty much just are what they are. Even good scum have a hard time when the pool narrows and I'd rather sort out the larger question marks now. Ask logic and Shinichi how much fun dealing with a blank box in lylo is. I feel the same way grape does about penta, which is funny cause normally i jump on penta whenever he does the slighest scummy shit. I would rather just continue pressuring dono, and then end up lynching abu or karote at this point. |
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Coelestin said: Not exactly. In some cases, having a narrow suspect list is fine, but in this case it didn’t even look like you were considering people who needed more attention like Carrot, Qoco, Lamby, etc. Instead you just went for the active ones instead. Town, and by that I mean experienced players, would care about the overall productivity of themselves during the game as a whole as well instead of just focusing on scum or town reading people, because we know how much it hurts town overall to have people who are barely active in the game. I normally just look at karote differently because i looked at him through the norm i just be biasedly scum reading him every game cause thats exactly how he plays anti town. As for getting them to post thats understadnble i want that too, but i feel as though its pointless for lamb to be poked he will reply as soon as he has the free time. Qoco wont reply at work and he works almost every day. Karote is idk lol. I pretty much have a slight supicion of everyone except penta and grrr right now. |
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Jackrito said: Just wondering, since I'm getting zero pressure today, why do the people who wanted me dead yesterday not now, is it because I have time to defend myself it is not as easy. change vote:jack still back reading but i thought i would accept the challenge. I'm still under the belief that if jack is scum someone on karote train is scum and vise versa just trying to figure out who it would be. |
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aa-dono said: I don't really need to know why you're townreading Jack and Penta. And your other scumread is Carrot, that I don't particularly care about being lynched. So I'll reserve until later and look into someone else. U dont think penta's involvement in the tieing is town motivated? Karote must care he claimed and he almost never claims |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: Just wondering, since I'm getting zero pressure today, why do the people who wanted me dead yesterday not now, is it because I have time to defend myself it is not as easy. change vote:jack still back reading but i thought i would accept the challenge. I'm still under the belief that if jack is scum someone on karote train is scum and vise versa just trying to figure out who it would be. Ok fair enough if we are going into this speculation who in it is scum with me considering you also scum read Karote. I also want reasons on me more then I can play good scum game since that mindset leads to mislynches |
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logic340 said: So I went through all the posts from the time you claimed to here and I cannot see where you said you switched yourself and Jack. If you could provide a link I would really appreciate it but at this point it seems your only getting yourself in deeper. Everything related to your claim is quoted below in the spoiler. You literally quoted the exact post you were looking for. |
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Karote said: logic340 said: So I went through all the posts from the time you claimed to here and I cannot see where you said you switched yourself and Jack. If you could provide a link I would really appreciate it but at this point it seems your only getting yourself in deeper. Everything related to your claim is quoted below in the spoiler. You literally quoted the exact post you were looking for. So what you are swapping with me every night then what are you trying to achieve with that |
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Jackrito said: Karote said: You literally quoted the exact post you were looking for. So what you are swapping with me every night then what are you trying to achieve with that I didn't swap with you last night, he was looking for a post where I said I swapped you with myself. |
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Karote said: I went to sleep last night and then was in school whole time, I was using school wifi so I could read posts but couldn't post anything due them blocking social and whatnot. My actual role name is Bus Driver but I thought that didn't make sense so I wanted that exact role name to make it easier for others recognise what I was but okay, I shouldn't have done that, Hider came in mind and in rush when there were few minutes for lynch then I wrote that but I remembered later that Transporter made more sense. I feel stupid for doing that and wouldn't be suprised if I got lynched, so that's that. This makes no sense during the night phase you said the role was closer to hider then transporter. Also I want to know what it does since so far all roles in here have been normal in name |
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Karote said: Jackrito said: So what you are swapping with me every night then what are you trying to achieve with that I didn't swap with you last night, he was looking for a post where I said I swapped you with myself. Ok I think they is confusion of quotes here what are your actions each night |
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Jackrito said: Karote said: I went to sleep last night and then was in school whole time, I was using school wifi so I could read posts but couldn't post anything due them blocking social and whatnot. My actual role name is Bus Driver but I thought that didn't make sense so I wanted that exact role name to make it easier for others recognise what I was but okay, I shouldn't have done that, Hider came in mind and in rush when there were few minutes for lynch then I wrote that but I remembered later that Transporter made more sense. I feel stupid for doing that and wouldn't be suprised if I got lynched, so that's that. This makes no sense during the night phase you said the role was closer to hider then transporter. Also I want to know what it does since so far all roles in here have been normal in name I never said it was closer to hider than transporter. And I have never heard of a role called Bus Driver but I guess host took them from epicmafia. |
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Jackrito said: Karote said: I didn't swap with you last night, he was looking for a post where I said I swapped you with myself. Ok I think they is confusion of quotes here what are your actions each night aa-dono and DenjaX |
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Karote said: Sigh. It had weird role name and abilities were similar to Hider, so that's what came in mind. Didn't meant to lie. I said Jackrito with myself. You say right here it is simlar to hider. |
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Karote said: Jackrito said: This makes no sense during the night phase you said the role was closer to hider then transporter. Also I want to know what it does since so far all roles in here have been normal in name I never said it was closer to hider than transporter. And I have never heard of a role called Bus Driver but I guess host took them from epicmafia. Hider and transporter are very different roles they should not be mixed up that easily also if you looked it up you shoukd know how it works and most similar to |
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Karote said: Nope you didn't. You said you used it on Jack but being a transporter means you get two targets not one. This is you trying to further you Hider lie. So if you had used your "Transporter" ability on Jack and yourself why didn't you say so?logic340 said: So I went through all the posts from the time you claimed to here and I cannot see where you said you switched yourself and Jack. If you could provide a link I would really appreciate it but at this point it seems your only getting yourself in deeper. Everything related to your claim is quoted below in the spoiler. You literally quoted the exact post you were looking for. Not that I believe you but why did you choose them? Karote said: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bus_DriverJackrito said: This makes no sense during the night phase you said the role was closer to hider then transporter. Also I want to know what it does since so far all roles in here have been normal in name I never said it was closer to hider than transporter. And I have never heard of a role called Bus Driver but I guess host took them from epicmafia. Mafia scum has a busdriver role so not sure why you would have never heard of that role before and it's more common than a "Hider". @Karote can we get that read list yet (confident in it or not) |
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aa-dono said: Eiii~ Karote's claim was scummy, but I can't relate it to his behaviour. I can see him trying to get reads in Day 2. But anyway, @Grapefruit21 why would you place Abu on a higher priority than Karote? @Qoco & @Shinichi-Kun funny little question. But a serious one. Did you read the roles in the rules/setup post? ya why whats up? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Depending on how each person looks at a player there is prob a common ground when it comes to their alignment. 1. Logic340 Behavioraly he is both emotionally he is scum Actions he is town No role claim yet 2. Grapefruit21 Behaviorally he both Emotionally he is town Actions he is town No claim 4. Ruu Behaviorally she is scum Emotionally she is town Actions she is scum Claim=Miller which can be a scum claim 5. Aa-dono Behaviorally she is both Emotionally she is town Actions she is scummy no claim 7. Lamby Behavoirally he is scum Emotionally he is town Actions he is both Role=Astectic modifier it can be either or. 8. Jackrito Behaviorially he is both Emotionally he is scum Actions he is town No role 9. Grrr Behaviorially he is scummy Emotionally he is town Actions he is both Role claim=nurse he is town unless there is a scum aligned doctor 11. Karote Behaviorally he is both Emotionally he is town Actions he is scum role claim=Transporter never heard of this being a scum aligned role 12. Penta Behaviorally he is town Emotionally he is town Actions he could be both No role claim 14. Coelestin Behaviorally she is both emotionally she is town Actions she is both No role claim 15. Qoco Behaviorally he is both Emotionally he is town Actions he is both Red=scummy Green=Town Orange=can be viewed as both I will try connecting people once i get a chance some colors might be messed up On the Karote bit of this it can be a scum role because you can avoid town ablities like cop by swapping yourself with a town and you can make a town appear scum as well. That is one possible way you do it. |
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logic340 said: Karote said: This is another reason I don't believe your transporter claim. If you are a transporter you have two targets not one yet here you said "I used my ability on Jack btw (first night)" rather than "I used my ability on Jack and myself (First Night)"I used my ability on Jack btw. (First Night) If someone can reconcile how he made this mistake? Though at this point it seems very unlikely to me. Not true tho there are some cases with you can only pick 1 target because ur always the first target. Which mean he picked jack on night 1 swapping with him. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: logic340 said: This is another reason I don't believe your transporter claim. If you are a transporter you have two targets not one yet here you said "I used my ability on Jack btw (first night)" rather than "I used my ability on Jack and myself (First Night)" If someone can reconcile how he made this mistake? Though at this point it seems very unlikely to me. Not true tho there are some cases with you can only pick 1 target because ur always the first target. Which mean he picked jack on night 1 swapping with him. Is that not a different role though and would little adv to a townie apart from getting self killed. Never seen that version tbh |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: Not true tho there are some cases with you can only pick 1 target because ur always the first target. Which mean he picked jack on night 1 swapping with him. Is that not a different role though and would little adv to a townie apart from getting self killed. Never seen that version tbh I have but ive also just seeen karote new claim so my statement is meaningless |
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