logic340 said: Honestly, I can see where it is coming from because his post seem prying, and not in a good way. However, he would not be my first vote. I kind of feel like I could vote Dark for not doing anything really and just sheeping what made sense, grape for waiting for things to happen rather then making them happen, or karote for being kind of odd.Suzune-chan said: Glad to see you here..How do you feel about the aa lynch train?Okay, I read this game lightly during my break and I thought when I got home there would be millions of posts, but I was wrong. Well, let's run through what I noticed today and then talk about votes shall we. Catch up then more content. |
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logic340 said: Suzune-chan said: 8 scum rolls in a row! That sounds crazy but anything is possible. Thank you for your imput as I didn't know where he might be coming from or why it may be indicative of why people voted for you. I like this most recent post it's quite refreshing to see someone else's take. While I don't mind waiting for people to ask for read lists the tend to come off forced and I generally get flak for them when asked. If you would like references to other games it's something I do pretty early on (last few games). I'm not versed in mafia game theory I've been feeling my way through it since Halloween when I was introduced to mafia. I have been in games non stop but I'm thinking of taking a break after the two games I am currently in to speak with the more experienced members.Well I hate to bring it up again, but you sort of spearheaded the conversation about the jester. Which seems odd to me. Besides with the low content area, it dominated much of page two which clouded the page with people's opinions of what they would do as the jester which only helps the jester. So yes, I think you were focused on it. I kind of wish that people jumped and posted content when I wanted it all the time... That being said, I will store this away in my notes about the game. My question for you is why are you looking only for forced or awkward conversation between mafia? Why would the mafia act any different during the day. This worries me because you have limited your focus so much, you also stated exactly what you are looking for coaching the mafia. Question, don't wait for it.... ------------ Sleip's little mishap voting on Phrase is probably not him being scummy. Honestly, it is totally says nothing other then he did not read the game. ------------------ Uh, Logic...yikes. I'll be honest, it pings me the wrong way. Half of that is because it is a meta based post. It has nothing to do with the game right now mostly. It is what they know about them as people. I cannot stand people voting others for meta, because that suggests that no one exploits their own meta. Which I believe is a great way to sink you team because it opens us up to fail. While I am all for reads lists. I never personally make them unless I am asked what I think about everyone because they are (1) a lot of work, (2) put all of my thoughts out there. This unprompted one and the way it is laid out, I just can't bring myself to like it. To answer your question @logic340 , while i am not him and therefore can only guess why he thinks I am an easy target, I assume it is because once about a year and a half ago I drew like eight scum roles in a row and it became well associated that Suzune must be scum. I don't feel like I have been a quick lynch much. No offense friend. But I do not care about people's meta. I will both not read it or research it. I will take each new game as a mostly clean slate. I have played a lot of games, won and lost a lot of games. But in the end, I want things to be backed by what I can see in the here and now. |
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Suzune-chan said: I have similar feelings about both of them and i would consider them among the inactives. I'm not a fan of Karote's entrance to the game as you noted but i scum read him hard as town and i don't want to let that blind me so i'm neutral waiting on content from Karote, but he was quite inactive in our previous game (TGT) iirc. In regards to aa when you say "prying and not in a good way" would you say you mean scum trying to look busy rather than town trying to solve the game?logic340 said: Honestly, I can see where it is coming from because his post seem prying, and not in a good way. However, he would not be my first vote. I kind of feel like I could vote Dark for not doing anything really and just sheeping what made sense, grape for waiting for things to happen rather then making them happen, or karote for being kind of odd.Glad to see you here..How do you feel about the aa lynch train? |
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Suzune-chan said: I really like this mind set it's what I came into mafia doing and have slowly been changed. I try to look at each game for what it is. A lot of people use meta so i guess that's why no one has really complained about those posts until now. I am evolving with each game and will take heed to this post since it harkens back to my earliest days in mafia. Thank you for being so straight forward no offense taken.logic340 said: 8 scum rolls in a row! That sounds crazy but anything is possible. Thank you for your imput as I didn't know where he might be coming from or why it may be indicative of why people voted for you. I like this most recent post it's quite refreshing to see someone else's take. While I don't mind waiting for people to ask for read lists the tend to come off forced and I generally get flak for them when asked. If you would like references to other games it's something I do pretty early on (last few games). I'm not versed in mafia game theory I've been feeling my way through it since Halloween when I was introduced to mafia. I have been in games non stop but I'm thinking of taking a break after the two games I am currently in to speak with the more experienced members. No offense friend. But I do not care about people's meta. I will both not read it or research it. I will take each new game as a mostly clean slate. I have played a lot of games, won and lost a lot of games. But in the end, I want things to be backed by what I can see in the here and now. |
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logic340 said: No I mean that aa looks like he is digging more in conversations. He notes rather odd things and seems to move from topic to topic. I will sometimes accuse people of avoiding the action, but with him, he seems to want a piece in all the pies. Looks too busy like when trying to buy a good impression. Just my general feeling on it. Suzune-chan said: I have similar feelings about both of them and i would consider them among the inactives. I'm not a fan of Karote's entrance to the game as you noted but i scum read him hard as town and i don't want to let that blind me so i'm neutral waiting on content from Karote, but he was quite inactive in our previous game (TGT) iirc. In regards to aa when you say "prying and not in a good way" would you say you mean scum trying to look busy rather than town trying to solve the game?Honestly, I can see where it is coming from because his post seem prying, and not in a good way. However, he would not be my first vote. I kind of feel like I could vote Dark for not doing anything really and just sheeping what made sense, grape for waiting for things to happen rather then making them happen, or karote for being kind of odd. Also I notice blonde has a lot of votes. I can't say anything from him stood out one way or the other about him. Honestly, my greatest fear is inactives in this game, as there is no reveal, we kind of still need everyone to stick around. |
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Suzune-chan said: I fear inactivity too and don't know how to deal with it. I see what you are getting at with aa. I guess I kind of brushed it off because I used to insert myself in a lot of conversations but was called out for it (i think by scum!chione). I've tried to stay way from "butting in" as i was told and just give my view on things lately. logic340 said: No I mean that aa looks like he is digging more in conversations. He notes rather odd things and seems to move from topic to topic. I will sometimes accuse people of avoiding the action, but with him, he seems to want a piece in all the pies. Looks too busy like when trying to buy a good impression. Just my general feeling on it. I have similar feelings about both of them and i would consider them among the inactives. I'm not a fan of Karote's entrance to the game as you noted but i scum read him hard as town and i don't want to let that blind me so i'm neutral waiting on content from Karote, but he was quite inactive in our previous game (TGT) iirc. In regards to aa when you say "prying and not in a good way" would you say you mean scum trying to look busy rather than town trying to solve the game? Also I notice blonde has a lot of votes. I can't say anything from him stood out one way or the other about him. Honestly, my greatest fear is inactives in this game, as there is no reveal, we kind of still need everyone to stick around. I admittedly don't like my vote on Blonde i know scum wont move if they don't have to so that was me just throwing my vote around due to inactivity and not really having a lead. Who are viable lynch options for today? I think I might could go aa ZXDarkblade, or Karote with a bit of confidence. |
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| I think the day is over sadly. There is no one online at this time of day for some kind of odd reason. However, I would support a lynch on either. Although, my gut is screaming flashing lights that Karote is the jester and that killing them is what they want. Before, we make this choice. Thoughts on grape? |
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| @Suzune-Chan Yes I should be forcing it rather than sitting back, but there are only so many hours in a day. Here's the thing though forcing action works much better when it will give a result. People can't hide their votes when we know what the flip is bringing. In a game like this where we don't have that incentive to force action watching how people interact is the key to solving the game. You can say I'm coaching the mafia by announcing that I'm looking at interactions first and foremost but that doesn't change the fact that you can still read it. I have seen a 15 game solved in less than 100 posts based almost entirely on interaction analysis. And While I'm no Iso I think I have a rudimentary grasp of how he works his magic and can start to apply it. So here goes you are unaligned with Karote and logic beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind. If you are scum we should look at aa-dono and Omni. But I don't think you are scum which combined with aa-dono's page 4 gives me a light town clear on both of you. If Blonde is scum than I think we should look hard at Shinichi. Karote and Wen seem possible as a scum team to me. Not looking there today though because I like my vote on blonde. And that is about all I've got for now |
| I think I'll go this way since no one comes back unless they are pinged? Vote: ZXDarkblade I might though continue to poke Karote if I can. I am interested in the reactions I am getting. |
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| Is the day over? I'm thinking Grape or Darkblade for the lynch, what do ya think? |
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| we have 15min, sorry guys, my phone was on silence -...- crap, and i do not think aa is mafia right now so i don't want to kill him/her (did not check yet, sorry) i will change my vote for a tie if we don't come to a conclusion in 5-8min |
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| @Blonde am I detecting OMGUS from you? It looks OMGUSy. Yeah not moving my vote before the deadline in 13 minutes if that is in fact the deadline. |
Grapefruit21 said: @Suzune-Chan Yes I should be forcing it rather than sitting back, but there are only so many hours in a day. Here's the thing though forcing action works much better when it will give a result. People can't hide their votes when we know what the flip is bringing. In a game like this where we don't have that incentive to force action watching how people interact is the key to solving the game. You can say I'm coaching the mafia by announcing that I'm looking at interactions first and foremost but that doesn't change the fact that you can still read it. I have seen a 15 game solved in less than 100 posts based almost entirely on interaction analysis. And While I'm no Iso I think I have a rudimentary grasp of how he works his magic and can start to apply it. So here goes you are unaligned with Karote and logic beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind. If you are scum we should look at aa-dono and Omni. But I don't think you are scum which combined with aa-dono's page 4 gives me a light town clear on both of you. If Blonde is scum than I think we should look hard at Shinichi. Karote and Wen seem possible as a scum team to me. Not looking there today though because I like my vote on blonde. And that is about all I've got for now Likewise, I am used to 15 player games solved in 6,000 posts. So the fact that nothing is really happening and that some people have come back is actually kind of frustrating to me because I enjoy playing and solving the games and are therefore, kind of restless. Talk to me about your blonde read. I did not honestly notice anything special about them townie or scummy. |
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AlbertinoDias said: So other thoughts then?we have 15min, sorry guys, my phone was on silence -...- crap, and i do not think aa is mafia right now so i don't want to kill him/her (did not check yet, sorry) i will change my vote for a tie if we don't come to a conclusion in 5-8min |
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Suzune-chan said: AlbertinoDias said: So other thoughts then?we have 15min, sorry guys, my phone was on silence -...- crap, and i do not think aa is mafia right now so i don't want to kill him/her (did not check yet, sorry) i will change my vote for a tie if we don't come to a conclusion in 5-8min as i said omnisword looks fishy to me but karote, was the most suspicious with me, aa sounds town for now, grape i have my doubts, but off the hook now, blond is kinda fishy as well but almost the same as grape, so i think that or we do a tie or we lynch someone who isn't aa, |
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| l an neutral on Grapefruit not going to read the first vote as alignment indicative. His reads in #117 are ok, wish he would have elaborated on his town read of aa. I like how he further explains what he means about watching interactions to wen this is the transparency I like seeing from players he lays out what he thinks. He did the same thing on page 5 when moving his votes explaining why he is doing what he is doing. |
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Suzune-chan said: Likewise, I am used to 15 player games solved in 6,000 posts. So the fact that nothing is really happening and that some people have come back is actually kind of frustrating to me because I enjoy playing and solving the games and are therefore, kind of restless. Talk to me about your blonde read. I did not honestly notice anything special about them townie or scummy. It's not that I'm used to it just think it can be possible and that watching how people talk to each other is undervalued. Here's what I've got on Blonde their Vote analysis post was useless info. Tracking that is helpful posting it at that point when there are no real votes doesn't do anything but appears helpful. In a low content game any sort of content is easy to get town read for. They also have flitted in and out of the thread without tying themselves to any reads or any wagons in a major way which I don't like. Too fence sitty for my tastes. |
| I'm good with blonde or xz at this point. Lets lynch someone. |
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Vote Count: aa-dono (4) - Omnisword, Wen294, Shinichi-kin, Sleipnirr Blonde (3) - Phraze, Grapefruit2, logic340 Grapefruit (1) - Karote AlbertinoDias (1) - Ruu ZXdarkblade (2) - Blonde, Suzune Shinichi-kun (1) - aa dono Omnisword (1) - AlbertinoDias logic340 (1) - ZXdarkblade |
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| change vote: blond guys, i won't kill aa right now, it's better to start again in 2 days, and see if we have more people online, and omnisword is here with us then, we hope, and i'm already used to start with the night fase, is not that bad if we work together, but right now i prefer to not kill anyone (but if you all change to karote that's another thing) |
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| I like ZX better than aa Vote: ZXDarkblade |
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| I just have this gut feeling that him and Shini are aligned and Shini's going down the Jester rabbit hole with Karote. Karote's focus felt natural Shini's didn't. And they just kind of came in opportunistically here saying they'd lynch DarkBlade who is everyone's lurker compromise and me for an unexplained reason and I know I'm town. |
AlbertinoDias said: Come to ZX with me i want to save aa toochange vote: blond guys, i won't kill aa right now, it's better to start again in 2 days, and see if we have more people online, and omnisword is here with us then, we hope, and i'm already used to start with the night fase, is not that bad if we work together, but right now i prefer to not kill anyone (but if you all change to karote that's another thing) |
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logic340 said: AlbertinoDias said: Come to ZX with me i want to save aa toochange vote: blond guys, i won't kill aa right now, it's better to start again in 2 days, and see if we have more people online, and omnisword is here with us then, we hope, and i'm already used to start with the night fase, is not that bad if we work together, but right now i prefer to not kill anyone (but if you all change to karote that's another thing) going to trust you for now vote change: ZXDarkblade |
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| @logic340 you moving to a wagon with nothing happening garuntee's that aa gets lynched. And aa is town |
| I'll go back to blonde if Suzune is going to come with me. |
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Grapefruit21 said: Suzune-chan said: Likewise, I am used to 15 player games solved in 6,000 posts. So the fact that nothing is really happening and that some people have come back is actually kind of frustrating to me because I enjoy playing and solving the games and are therefore, kind of restless. Talk to me about your blonde read. I did not honestly notice anything special about them townie or scummy. It's not that I'm used to it just think it can be possible and that watching how people talk to each other is undervalued. Here's what I've got on Blonde their Vote analysis post was useless info. Tracking that is helpful posting it at that point when there are no real votes doesn't do anything but appears helpful. In a low content game any sort of content is easy to get town read for. They also have flitted in and out of the thread without tying themselves to any reads or any wagons in a major way which I don't like. Too fence sitty for my tastes. Honestly you raise fair points. He never discussed in any of the major topics that I saw during the day, so I did not notice him as much. But you have a good point, except that he did not post around what people were discussing he just did not discuss it. Which means he was not trying to spin it or tailor it just let it go. That could be quite telling if he is mafia. |
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Vote Count: aa-dono (4) - Omnisword, Wen294, Shinichi-kin, Sleipnirr Blonde (3) - Phraze, Grapefruit2, AlbertinoDias Grapefruit (1) - Karote AlbertinoDias (1) - Ruu ZXdarkblade (3) - Blonde, Suzune, Logic Shinichi-kun (1) - aa dono logic340 (1) - ZXdarkblade |
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| Oooops oit's happening okay Vote change ZXDarkblade |
| @AlbertinoDias and @Suzune-chan which way are we going? |
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logic340 said: I'm already moved. I moved first.I'll go back to blonde if Suzune is going to come with me. |
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| 5-4 and we did it, great job, now let's wait and see his role |
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| Stay on darkblade |
| Vote change ZXDarkblade |
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right nnow dark |
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Grapefruit21 said: Nope. It's just no one has come to surface as particularly scummy, you seem like the best choice imo.@Blonde am I detecting OMGUS from you? It looks OMGUSy. Yeah not moving my vote before the deadline in 13 minutes if that is in fact the deadline. |
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Karote said: Where did you come from?Vote change ZXDarkblade |
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Grapefruit21 said: Yes, I know. :)Stay on darkblade |
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| @AlbertinoDias we don't get flips. We're all flying blind |
was thinking the same... |
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| I'm not liking how all the people who voted aa are MIA right now. That reeks to me. Omni is RVS and the other three didn't seem sold on that vote to be leaving them there like that. Omni asked for a rep out maybe they should have pulled their vote? |
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Karote said: You and your lurker votes...when did you appear. Not in time to chat...Vote change ZXDarkblade |
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| Alright see you all in the day phase. Let's lynch Blonde tomorrow! |
Vote Count: aa-dono (4) - Omnisword, Wen294, Shinichi-kin, Sleipnirr Blonde (1) - Phraze AlbertinoDias (1) - Ruu ZXdarkblade (6) - Blonde, Suzune, Logic, Albertino, Grapefruit, Karote Shinichi-kun (1) - aa dono logic340 (1) - ZXdarkblade Correct me if I am wrong. Otherwise phase change is coming up in a few minutes. |
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ZXdarkblade has been lynched. Night 1 begins now. Time until Day 2 Please remember all discussion is prohibited during the night phase. |
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Grapefruit21 said: I hope you actually have some good reasoning tomorrow. Expecting everyone to spit out analysis on day 1 is just dumb. It'd be even dumber for mafia to give town anything good enough to analyse from.Alright see you all in the day phase. Let's lynch Blonde tomorrow! |
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