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Do you think Kadenz fermata is a prequel or sequel to fortissimo or brand new story?
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Aug 10, 2014 5:36 AM
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| Hmm nice theory you have there. Maybe one thing to help your theory is Vorspa's involvement in all this. Spoilers from Sakura's route We knew that they were the ones who created the mahoutsukais using the Ooparts they found, but what if they are trying to destroy them this time to set things right again. And I think the Holy Knights members were probably people who lost someone important to them during the first Ragnarok, or war orphans like Freya who harbor a deep hatred towards the mahoutsukais. Also, Freya's brother Julius was once a member of Vorspa, as I stated above in post 17, so he may have regretted forming the mahoutsukai after that whole incident and formed the Holy Knights after that. Lol that wall of speculation. Btw Matt, are you good at translating names? If so, do you mind if you can give me a hand with these ones: Julius: シャリオヴァルト - Shariovaruto Julia: クロノシュネーヴァイシェン - Kuronoshunevaishen Rudra: アンダルファイト - Andarufaito And I have been trying to translate the battle data for the Holy Knights. So far, Amaterasu has been the easiest person for me to do because of wikipedia lol. From what I can see, these knights' data are pretty average compared to the mahoutsukai, but maybe I am giving the mahoutsukai too much credit for being Op'ed. Edit: I finished translating all of the characters' battle data. I'm going to post it here in case anyone wants to see it. Long post here we go Reiji Yoshino Magical Weapon: Sakura Magical Ability: Da Capo Mythical Magic: Fenris Wolf Technical Skill: Urtharbruunr Battle Status: Power - D (increased from F to D) Agility - B Magic Power/Ability or Mana - S Technique Ability - S Fighting Style: Magic enhanced hand-to-hand close combat. Sakura Magical Weapon: Sunlight (Mana Source) Magical Ability: Da Capo (I have no idea why she has Da Capo, considering she never used it in the original fortissimo games) Mythical Magic: Laevateinn Technical Skill: Mimisbruunr Battle Status: Power - E (lowered from S to E...ouch why is she so weak now?) Agility - D Magic Power/Ability or Mana - A Technique Ability - A Fighting Style: Using sunlight to cast magic abilities. Ryuuichi Sumeragi Magical Weapons: Mjöllnir & Megingjörð Magical Ability: Nothung Mythical Magic: Thor's Hammer Technical Skill: Turbulence Battle Status: Power - C (lowered from S to C...ouch again) Agility - A Magic Power/Ability or Mana - B Technique Ability - A Fighting Style: Eliminating everything in a single strike (aka Thor's Hammer fullaccess). Nagisa Suzushiro Magical Weapon: Svafrlami Magical Ability: Tyrfing Mythical Magic: Achilles Paradox Technical Skill: Sacred Waltz Battle Status: Power - B (increased from C to B) Agility - D Magic Power/Ability or Mana - B Technique Ability - S Fighting Style: Limited counterattack with one strike. Sayuki Kurobane Magical Weapons: Utamaru & Archimedes + Sköll & Hati Magical Ability: Weiss Schwarz and Alsvior Mythical Magic: Sturm Kreuz Technical Skill: Flugel Blitz Battle Status: Power - D Agility - S Magic Power/Ability or Mana - C Technique Ability - D Fighting Style: Long ranged combat with dual wielding guns. Momiji Satomura Magical Weapon: Grimoire Magical Ability: L'Arc En Ciel Mythical Magic: Judgment Technical Skill: Gleipnir Battle Status: Power - C Agility - D Magic Power/Ability or Mana - C Technique Ability - B Fighting Style: Judging a single person with a magical beam. Ayane Amamiya (Valkyrie) Magical Weapon: Stringroad Magical Ability: Brinsingamen Mythical Magic: Dainsleif Technical Skill: Skinfaxi Battle Status: Power - C (lowered from A to C) Agility - C Magic Power/Ability or Mana - C Technique Ability - A Fighting Style: Waltz of threads that produce kinetic energy. Jin Arizuka Magical Weapon: Gjallarhorn Magical Ability: Arcadia Jinx Mythical Magic: Forbes Blutgang Technical Skill: Himinbjorg Battle Status: Power - F Agility - E Magic Power/Ability or Mana - C Technique Ability - A Fighting Style: Using the power of words to come to reality. Now onto the Kadenz fermata characters. Their data is very different compared to the fortissimo characters in that they use miracles and attributes instead of runes and magical abilities. Also, I believe the miracles come in the form of weapons. Freya=Schwertleite Attribute: Moonlight Miracles (aka weapon): Multi-purpose miracle sword <<Schwertleite - Eins>> Multi-purpose miracle sword <<Schwertleite - Zwei>> Mythical Magic: Midgard's Wolf Battle Status: Power - B Agility - B Magic Power/Ability or Mana - B Technique Ability - C Fighting Style: Close combat with dual-wielding weapons and hand-to-hand combat. Amaterasu=Hirume Mikoto Attribute: Explosive Flames Miracles: Three Sacred Treasures - Sword <<Kusanagi no Tsurugi>> Three Sacred Treasures - Mirror <<Yata no Kagami>> Three Sacred Treasures - Orb <<Yasakani no Magatama>> Mythical Magic: Kagero - Ageha Wakitsurugi (pretty sure this is wrong lolz) Battle Status: Power - A Agility - C Magic Power/Ability or Mana - B Technique Ability - B Fighting Style: Tactically adapting to the situation. Alicia=Katharina Attribute: Everlasting Darkness Miracle: Artificial Intelligence Stuffed Doll <<Toy Box>> Mythical Magic: Pyxis Battle Status: Power - D Agility - E Magic Power/Ability or Mana - A Technique Ability - D Fighting Style: Long ranged puppet munipulation. Julius=Chariowald Attribute: Unknown Miracle: Unknown Mythical Magic: Unknown Battle Status: Power - ? Agility - ? Magic Power/Ability or Mana - ? Technique Ability - ? Fighting Style: Unknown Irmfried=Burkhardt Attribute: Holy Miracle: Super-sized Gauntlet Tonfa <<Val Tobruk>> Mythical Magic: Heidelberg Battle Status: Power - S Agility - B Magic Power/Ability or Mana - S Technique Ability - D Fighting Style: Proximity destruction and defense against destructive power. Faust=Norbert Attribute: Absolute Ice Miracle: Training White Cane <> Mythical Magic: Hakujoenbu Battle Status: Power - B Agility - D Magic Power/Ability or Mana - C Technique Ability - C Fighting Style: Extreme counterattack fencing. Julia=Chronoschneeweisschen (idk how we came to this name lolz) Attribute: Unknown Miracle: Sniper Coffin <<Faller - Kairos/Cairos>> Mythical Magic: Unknown Battle Status: Power - B Agility - C Magic Power/Ability or Mana - C Technique Ability - S Fighting Style: Super long-ranged multiangular sniping. Rudra=Andalfite Attribute: Rouge Thunder (Rouge Flame anyone?) Miracle: Dual Spears <<Vajura and Vajira>> Mythical Magic: Rig Veda Battle Status: Power - B Agility - A Magic Power/Ability or Mana - D Technique Ability - C Fighting Style: Martial arts with twin thunder spears. |
YoxalLoyalSep 4, 2014 12:24 PM
Aug 12, 2014 1:27 AM
#22
| I think you're probably right about the knights' motive. That fits with my impression of what I've read. It might be a bit more complicated than that if they're going after Reiji's group in particular, but I wonder if Kamiya/La'cryma will go into more detail before it comes out. It occurs to me that half the mahoutsukai in fortissimo were homicidal (Odin + the 3 in Jin's faction, Sanada, even Hinako near the end... well, essentially everyone else too once they realized they needed to kill people to gain power to survive and whatnot). They probably have a bad reputation, local superhero Sayuki aside. There are a lot of unclear things about the setting that had better get addressed in Kadenz... YoxalLoyal said: Btw Matt, are you good at translating names? Not at all, but I can offer my guesses for the ones you mentioned based on some research. > Julius: シャリオヴァルト - Shariovaruto The results I see are for dog and horse names for some reason, but looking at http://www.jkc.or.jp/modules/breedinginfo/index.php?content_id=23 and some other results, it looks like this might be "Chariowald." >Julia: クロノシュネーヴァイシェン - Kuronoshunevaishen Trying to Google parts of it got ヴァイシェン = Weizen and シュネー = Schnee. Schneeweizen shows up on Google. Not sure how to fit the first part in... I tried looking up [Ch/K/Kh][r/l]onoschnee[weizen]. Chrono is the reference to time, so if she has a time-based power, maybe... I see you came up with Chronoschneeweisschen, that works too. >Rudra: アンダルファイト - Andarufaito The first part of the word might be Andal based on http://jisho.org/words?jap=%E3%82%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%AB*&eng=&dict=edict . Hmm... looking at the first sentence of his description (he was raised on the battlefield), it might not be impossible the second half of his last name is -fight. That or -fite, maybe (-phite sounds like a rock). Good work with the battle data. The points about Sakura you mentioned remind me of a post I read a while back on 2ch: Someone was saying that Loki was using a "full-powered" Fenris Wolf, meaning that it could erase people's magic without erasing their existence--which shouldn't have been possible without Sakura's power? I don't remember what the game said about Fenris Wolf / Da Capo's abilities, but that's what this person said. Anyway, they suggested that he could use it because the scarf around Reiji's neck was a crystalization of Sakura's power. Thinking back on this theory, maybe it's possible that Reiji and Sakura became more connected in some way when he cast fortissimo. I think that Sakura's power is E now because she used up almost all / almost all her power when they cast fortissimo (I'm not surprised about that part at all, actually). Anyway, nice of you to catch that. Power - C (lowered from S to C...ouch again) ... Fighting Style: Eliminating everything in a single strike (aka Thor's Hammer fullaccess). Ryuuichi can't use Full Access anymore because it utilizes the 9 parallel worlds and now there's only 1. That should be at least part of why his power is down from S to C. |
Aug 12, 2014 1:38 PM
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| Thanks for the help on those names Matt. For now, I have decided to finalize each of these names as: Chronoschneeweisschen (I am still thinking what Kamiya was thinking when he made this surname up lolz) Andalfite In other news, I have been discussing what happened to the mahoutsukai after Ragnarok, and it seems like all the winners, like you said, retained their magic and were able to go into fullaccess mode. So I would guess that the mahoutsukais not shown were either turned human again, or were defeated by the Holy Knights before the game started since they were not able to access fullaccess mode. From the newer articles, we see that Ryuuichi has obviously gained fullaccess mode since he now has two gauntlets instead of one, so maybe double Thor's Hammer. Reiji has also gained fullaccess mode in the latest cg shown in Kamiya's tweet and has a blue aura around him. This probably means he can easily access Zero mode or Loki mode, where he can use Da Capo Zero and Fenris Wolf Zero (or fullaccess). Also, the opening for Kadenz fermata will be titled "fermata ~Akkord:fortissimo~" sung by fripSide. The sample can be heard here: fermata ~Akkord:fortissimo~ Edit: Julius' surname is confirmed to be spelled Chariowald in one of the new wallpapers from the site. |
YoxalLoyalAug 14, 2014 8:16 PM
Sep 7, 2014 7:13 AM
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| Really looking forward to this game, but it's a bit sad that Odin won't have a major role. I guess Odin would break the balance in the game. Might also feel weird due to Sayuki's seiyuu changing. Thanks for all the news! |
RizorSep 7, 2014 7:17 AM
Sep 7, 2014 8:59 AM
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YoxalLoyalSep 12, 2014 8:21 PM
Sep 11, 2014 6:10 AM
#26
Sep 12, 2014 2:01 PM
#27
Sep 22, 2014 4:27 AM
#28
| THE NEW PV IS FINALLY OUT!!! The animated scenes were AWESOME!!! Though they were only in Freya and Julius's segments. The voices fit the characters very well, though Freya's voice was not what I had expect. The cgs shown was also beautiful. The bgm also brings a refreshing feel to the battles in the future. This was only the Seven Holy Knights PV, so we will probably have the Mahoutsukai side PV soon. |
Sep 22, 2014 6:52 PM
#29
| Can't wait for Mahoutsukai side PV, definitely going to play that side first. |
Sep 27, 2014 6:59 AM
#30
| So, any predictions on the battle match-ups between the Mahoutsukai and the Holy Knights? So far, there are three battles that have been confirmed: Reiji vs. Freya (as if this wasn't obvious) Nagisa vs. Faust Ayane/Valkyrie vs. Alicia These are my predictions for the rest: Ryuuichi vs. Irmfired (both are pretty powerful guys with a powerful defense to boot) Sayuki vs. Julia (both have long ranged firearms) Momiji vs. Mikoto (process of elimination?) Jin vs. Rudra (battle of egos) |
Oct 9, 2014 10:32 PM
#31
| Kadenz fermata OP released! Sayuki now has Lindwurm, and Momiji has inherited Utamaru and Archimedes!!! Can't wait to see them fight together. |
Oct 20, 2014 8:07 PM
#32
| The battle system demo video you mentioned in the in the club comments (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfjnIM_SoaM) looks amazing. I love how Freya attacks Mikoto mid-sentence at 3:40, and the narration says that Freya is cutting to pieces both Mikoto and her words. Now I really want to play this personally, without foreknowledge or assistance (I'll be fading away from threads with spoilers once it comes out). As far as I can tell, the battle system doesn't use the accelerometer, so I still don't understand why Kamiya said "this is a game that's only possible to make on the Vita". I hope it was just marketing nonsense and that the PC version will come eventually. I'm willing to wait. |
Oct 30, 2014 5:52 AM
#33
| Twitter Icons that La'cryma released today. Glad to see some of the other mahoutsukai. Kiseki Side Mahou Side Edit: So huge update from La'cryma today with lots of pictures. More icons, wallpapers, and some interesting reveals. First, screenshot time! So the protagonist system is back. This time, you get to choose between Freya or Reiji, though I know which side people are going to choose. XD Looks like a spread sheet for all the days and paths you've chosen. Found something interesting in this one (hint: look at the bottom left). Vorspa is definitely controlling the Seven Knights. Second, found something that peaked my interest in this pic (the blue and red ones): Is Freya suddenly a devil and Sakura an angel? Lol looks like a black aura behind Freya and Sakura grew wings. Third, some more icons and wallpapers for Twitter. Putting them in spoilers to save space. Kiseki Side: Icons Wallpaper Banner Mahou Side: Icons Wallpapers Banner Fourth, seems like the system page has been updated too with a sample spreadsheet of what your 'routes' could be in the game. Last, the official names of the members of the Holy Knights have been revealed. Can't believe I actually got 6/8 of the members' names correct. Julius=Chariowald Irmfrid=Burkhard Faust=Norbert Yuria=Chrono-schnee weizen (no matter how I look at it, this is a weird name...especially when you have three names as one surname) Rudra=Andalfite Alicia=Katharina Amaterasu=Hirume Mikoto Freya=Schwertleite It was pretty hard to make out these names with that font they used. And that SAMPLE did not help either |
YoxalLoyalOct 31, 2014 9:00 AM
Nov 20, 2014 4:38 AM
#34
| With the other fortissimo characters being revealed, I decided to translate their battle data. These guys weren't as hard as the previous set of characters were. Umi Kajiura Magical Weapon: Shining Memories Magical Ability: Galaxy Angel Mythical Magic: None Technical Skill: None Battle Status: Power - F Agility - D Magic Power/Ability or Mana - A Technique Ability - ? Fighting Style: Copying other mahoutsukai's magical weapons and using them. Hinako Takamine Magical Weapon: Sweet Home Magical Ability: Aegis Maiden Mythical Magic: None Technical Skill: None Battle Status: Power - E Agility - F Magic Power/Ability or Mana - C Technique Ability - A Fighting Style: Creating an absolute defense. Keisuke Sanada Magical Weapon: Mistilteinn Magical Ability: Storm Bringer Mythical Magic: None Technical Skill: None Battle Status: Power - C Agility - C Magic Power/Ability or Mana - C Technique Ability - B Fighting Style: Draining oppenents' energy with cards. Kengo Kirisaki Magical Weapon: Stream Field Magical Ability: Irenaeus Mythical Magic: Nero Apocalypse Technical Skill: None Battle Status: Power - B Agility - C Magic Power/Ability or Mana - B Technique Ability - D Fighting Style: Offensive attacks with 665 knives (the last one he is always holding on to). Hagane Todoroki Magical Weapon: Eckesachs Magical Ability: Graviton Press Mythical Magic: None Technical Skill: Selfishness Battle Status: Power - A Agility - E Magic Power/Ability or Mana - D Technique Ability - B Fighting Style: A barrage of heavy attacks. Other than that, a full cast list has been updated: VAs that voice only one character: Reiji - Jun Oosuka Sakura - Yoshino Nanjo Ryuuichi - Takahiro Mizushima Nagisa - Hiroko Taguchi Sayuki - Ai Kitano (seems like she was the only one who has a different VA with Aoba Ringo being her VA from fortissimo.) Momiji - Nozomi Yoneshima Jin - Eimi Okada Umi - Tae Okajima Hinako - Tomoe Tamiyasu Freya - Yui Kondo Amaterasu - Sayuri Yahagi Alicia - Yuu Kahara Toy Box - Atsumi Tanezaki Julius - Takuya Satou Irmfried - Taiten Kusunoki Faust - Haruo Satou Julia - Mie Sonozaki Rudra - Michiko Kaiden Ichigo - Mami Uchida Kuri - Minaho Matsudaira Miki - Rei Matsuzaki Sousei - Kousuke Toriumi SAKURA - Yoshino Nanjo Camellia - Ai Kakuma VAs that voice more than one characters: Ayane and Hiyori - Aina Kase Keisuke and Kengo - Kouji Yusa Hagane and [Shishou] - Kazuya Ichijo |
Dec 6, 2014 8:51 PM
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| Played the demo a bit and so far the game looks like it will be pretty good. Ayane sounds a bit different though... My favourite line of the game so far: Julius:... If Odin were still active, we wouldn't dream of having even a chance. (Something along those lines) |
RizorDec 6, 2014 8:57 PM
Dec 7, 2014 6:21 AM
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Rizor said: Played the demo a bit and so far the game looks like it will be pretty good. Ayane sounds a bit different though... My favourite line of the game so far: Julius:... If Odin were still active, we wouldn't dream of having even a chance. (Something along those lines) Oh nice! How was the gameplay and story so far? Lmao even Julius knows they didn't stand a chance if Odin the god of hax was still a mahoutsukai. Lucky for him, he is at home enjoying his time with his waifu. |
Dec 7, 2014 10:15 AM
#37
| Interesting so far they brought up a term - "Robotic Notes" I wonder if Fortissimo will be revealed to be the same verse as Steins;Gate, Chaos;Head and Robotic Notes, or if its just a cameo , there was an explanation paragraph on it, but it was not voiced, so I didn't understand it. |
Dec 8, 2014 5:02 AM
#38
| Heh, I knew Irmfrid gave off some Iskandar vibes. I think I have seen that 'term' as I was translating something related to Kadenz. Not sure where I saw it though. So, anything new on the Mahou side? Or is the Kiseki side the only playable side for the demo? |
Dec 9, 2014 5:41 PM
#39
| Yeah, the part I'm on right now just switched to Reiji's point of view. So far just slice of life with the main cast. I'll post more probably on the weekend. |
Dec 9, 2014 8:09 PM
#40
| Nice. Figured it would showcase our fortissimo characters living their normal lives again. The full game is coming out in 2 days (maybe 1 more day depending on your time zone). Hopefully we get to see some gameplay on youtube. My copy probably won't be coming until Christmas. Should probably get a Vita soon too. |
Dec 13, 2014 9:06 AM
#41
| Normal lives didn't go on for long... The demo shows Reiji, Ayane, Momiji and Sakura get dragged into an amusement park in a world similar to Eye space. The demo shows bits of the first fight between them and the trio Kisekitsukai: Freya, Mikoto and Alicia. The fight is ended by an interference by a third party. Demo then goes on to show previews of the match ups: Nagisa vs Faust, Ryuuichi vs Rudra, and Julia vs Sayuki, Momiji and Kirisaki. Demo reveals: -Third force, armored person with weapons similar to Freya -Kiseki side using an item called "Barrier Jacket" That nullifies all magic it touches -Kiseki side's goal is not to kill Mahoutsukai but to separate magic from the users -Kiseki side have ability to create separate dimension similar to Eye Space -Possibly Major spoiler?- Alicia may a have dual personality and may have connection to the main villain of the game A couple of other things I couldn't understand, I didn't want to know too many spoilers so I could enjoy the full game. Also I can't tell if Sayuki's seiyuu really changed, as she only had one voiced word in the demo. I guess I have to wait until the full game to find out. I feel as though the sound quality on the vita is a step down from the visual novel, possibly to keep the size of the game smaller. I recommend the old OLED screen vita, I bought a refurbished one from Gamestop, they have a better quality screen than the new one I believe. |
RizorDec 13, 2014 8:25 PM
Dec 13, 2014 9:30 AM
#42
| Nice! Thanks for the spoilers Rizor. I saw some spoiler screenshots of some scenes in the game, and I gotta say, Kadenz is going to be a wild ride. From the screenshots I saw, it was disappointing that some of the sprites don't even fit the Vita screen. Also, it is a shame that the sound quality dropped from PC to Vita. Hopefully we get a port soon. Onto some of the things you mentioned: - Alicia does have a split personality. You could see her shadow in the Mahou side opening. Not sure if you've seen her in-game, but she looks creepy as hell. - The third party could be Camellia (that green-like entity that is shown in the characters page) controlling the armor. Also, the weapons look like Julius's (I don't blame you for mismatching the two since they both look nearly the same) - Lol "Barrier Jacket" reminds me a lot of Nanoha. Except it does the opposite, which I find ironic Can't wait to get my hands on the game itself. It's a shame that I might have to buy the discount package for the Vita (the one with Borderlands 2). Not sure if that is the good or bad one though. |
Dec 13, 2014 8:25 PM
#43
| Lol, I just looked at some of the promo pics of Julius and the main Kadenz fermata logo, didn't realize Julius use those weapons. The demo does show a scene of Alicia with a scythe, interested to see how her role in the story will turn out. Hmm... Also about Camellia I just check the profile page, seems like it may have a connection with Freya and Julius. At the end of the demo we hear Freya's seiyuu (Most likely Camellia) praying to god to save everyone. I feel like that I may put the effort to translate at least the important scenes to fully understand the story. The Vita slim does include 1gb of internal memory so it's not a bad deal and the battery life is longer as well. |
Dec 14, 2014 1:14 PM
#44
| Saw the demo version playthrough by a Twitch user and the livestream that was going on this morning, and I gotta say, I am impressed. The fights look pretty good, and that soundtrack is epic. Glad that the Vita slim is good, cuz I'm getting it this week. Edit: Finally got my game. First playthrough is going to be all about the Kisekitsukai. Just finished my first 'playthrough'. La'cryma trolled us good by making the first playthrough one where you have to lose to the OP'ed final boss. Also, the battle system is pretty hard. |
YoxalLoyalDec 24, 2014 7:05 AM
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