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Mar 26, 2017 1:12 PM

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amberwillow said:
This sounds so wrong o.O
People are tunneling so hard on the main entrance and they are forgetting that there is a back entrance as well.

I feel like this Grape vs logic is too much of a distraction and sets up itself for the benefit of the mafia. If both are town then things will very much go downhill from there unless we got doc and cop saving the day.

That is why I am proposing an alternate route to find other scum. After all, there are other scum out there.

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Mar 26, 2017 1:13 PM

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Why else is logic pushing me but helping float the idea that we're town v town. I'd reevaluate after a flip but I've got confidence in my case. It feels like the same stuff he was doing to avoid the noose last time
If you and logic make a truce and we form an alliance, we can lynch RE together along with grrr's vote:


You've said that I'm too clean - yet you're willing to vote me, what? What? You claim that your vote on me is an OMGUS vote, but now you want others to join in?
Well, I'm going to have a good laugh when all of this is over.
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@logic340 I'm willing to vote RE because while they have posted a fair amount I don't like all of it, their vote today is off in nowhereland and when I went through and responded to that post I said I liked point by point I ended up disagreeing with a lot of it.

As for grrr, somebody was white knighting CPurity. More likely to be you but grrr's 12345 and justification that scum dont leave refer back to this later messages was a huge reach. Plus he was willing to play us against each other and voted you when the town consensus was against me. He is the only piece that I can find that makes sense if this is actually town v town which I don't think it is. Prefer to just lynch you.

And I have more confidence in other town reads. Not willing to lynch any of my other town reads, and not willing to lynch Penta yet. Penta is like Suzu and I want as much time as possible for them to slip to make it harder to be wrong. Plus they are actually behaviorally townie, just not outside their scum range because that range is huge.
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RE1031 said:
You've said that I'm too clean - yet you're willing to vote me, what? What? You claim that your vote on me is an OMGUS vote, but now you want others to join in?
Well, I'm going to have a good laugh when all of this is over.
Yeah because every villain really have to explain their plans on the silver platter right? Just like in the anime. xDD

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Mar 26, 2017 1:16 PM

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Let us settle this like gentleman here:

@logic340 if Grape is scum, who are his 2 buddies?

@Grapefruit21 if logic is scum, who are his 2 buddies?

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Mar 26, 2017 1:19 PM

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Grapefruit21 said:
@logic340 I'm willing to vote RE because while they have posted a fair amount I don't like all of it, their vote today is off in nowhereland and when I went through and responded to that post I said I liked point by point I ended up disagreeing with a lot of it.

As for grrr, somebody was white knighting CPurity. More likely to be you but grrr's 12345 and justification that scum dont leave refer back to this later messages was a huge reach. Plus he was willing to play us against each other and voted you when the town consensus was against me. He is the only piece that I can find that makes sense if this is actually town v town which I don't think it is. Prefer to just lynch you.

And I have more confidence in other town reads. Not willing to lynch any of my other town reads, and not willing to lynch Penta yet. Penta is like Suzu and I want as much time as possible for them to slip to make it harder to be wrong. Plus they are actually behaviorally townie, just not outside their scum range because that range is huge.
if someone whiteknighted it was grrr. I've asked about people's opinions of that multiple times and got 0 response. I'm inclined to think this is town grrr but admittedly I don't have enough information. I agree with your Penta read but that means more scrutiny not wait and see imo. I have to say you and Follow's interactions remind me of me and Kaitou of he flips scum I'll still be looking your way whether you vote for him or not.
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Mar 26, 2017 1:20 PM

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DenjaX said:
Let us settle this like gentleman here:

@logic340 if Grape is scum, who are his 2 buddies?

@Grapefruit21 if logic is scum, who are his 2 buddies?
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Mar 26, 2017 1:21 PM

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DenjaX said:
amberwillow said:
This sounds so wrong o.O
People are tunneling so hard on the main entrance and they are forgetting that there is a back entrance as well.

I feel like this Grape vs logic is too much of a distraction and sets up itself for the benefit of the mafia. If both are town then things will very much go downhill from there unless we got doc and cop saving the day.

That is why I am proposing an alternate route to find other scum. After all, there are other scum out there.
Yeah, but tbh, I don't really see how is RE in that back entrance. She has put a lot more imput to the game than some other people. I don't always agree with her, but her posts sound genuine to me.
Indeed, it's not gonna be good if they both are townies, I really hope that it is not the case, cuz they both are not in a good position.
Well looking for other suspects is not a bad thing but imo u are going in a bad way about it.
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@DenjaX I don't have a firm grasp on his buddies, but I think he's hard unaligned with Crossbell. Unlikely to be aligned with grrr, RE, or Penta.

grrr for both having the correct read on CPurity, RE for the way he repeatedly shot her down for coming into the willow/logic convo. And Penta because I'm not not sure he comes out that hard against Claire for a buddy which was my initial read on the situation. Too easy to get chain lynched.
Mar 26, 2017 1:24 PM

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logic340 said:
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Oh, I don't plan on giving anyone a free pass :)
But you're suggesting that you should be given one. You've been planting the seed of doubt.
And I am not asking for one. Examples please? What seeds have I planted? If anything I have put a target on my back.

You've been suggesting that both you and Grape could be town. Lots.
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Although I'm still extremely annoyed at Grape's reasoning for his willingness to vote me.
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Mar 26, 2017 1:26 PM

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@RE1031 I would absolutely vote any of the others before you!
Mar 26, 2017 1:26 PM

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DenjaX said:
amberwillow said:
This sounds so wrong o.O
People are tunneling so hard on the main entrance and they are forgetting that there is a back entrance as well.

I feel like this Grape vs logic is too much of a distraction and sets up itself for the benefit of the mafia. If both are town then things will very much go downhill from there unless we got doc and cop saving the day.

That is why I am proposing an alternate route to find other scum. After all, there are other scum out there.


Alternate route being re?


Mar 26, 2017 1:26 PM

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@DenjaX I don't have a firm grasp on his buddies, but I think he's hard unaligned with Crossbell. Unlikely to be aligned with grrr, RE, or Penta.

grrr for both having the correct read on CPurity, RE for the way he repeatedly shot her down for coming into the willow/logic convo. And Penta because I'm not not sure he comes out that hard against Claire for a buddy which was my initial read on the situation. Too easy to get chain lynched.
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Mar 26, 2017 1:27 PM

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Shinichi-Kun said:


Alternate route being re?
Or you. I'd like to enter your other entrance.

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Mar 26, 2017 1:28 PM

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And I am not asking for one. Examples please? What seeds have I planted? If anything I have put a target on my back.

You've been suggesting that both you and Grape could be town. Lots.
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Although I'm still extremely annoyed at Grape's reasoning for his willingness to vote me.
yes because it is a very real possibility so what happens if the vote flips to me I flip town? does that mean I did all that word for grapefruit to get a free pass?
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Mar 26, 2017 1:29 PM

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Grapefruit21 said:
@RE1031 I would absolutely vote any of the others before you!

huh? O_O
hmm I guess I misunderstood?

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Alternate route being re?
Or you. I'd like to enter your other entrance.

lewd.
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Mar 26, 2017 1:30 PM

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RE1031 said:
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@RE1031 I would absolutely vote any of the others before you!

huh? O_O
hmm I guess I misunderstood?

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Or you. I'd like to enter your other entrance.

lewd.
I guess I misunderstood him as well O_o
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Mar 26, 2017 1:31 PM

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logic340 said:
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@DenjaX I don't have a firm grasp on his buddies, but I think he's hard unaligned with Crossbell. Unlikely to be aligned with grrr, RE, or Penta.

grrr for both having the correct read on CPurity, RE for the way he repeatedly shot her down for coming into the willow/logic convo. And Penta because I'm not not sure he comes out that hard against Claire for a buddy which was my initial read on the situation. Too easy to get chain lynched.
you can't nail down my team because there is not a team I'm trying to figure out the game.

I mean I narrowed it down to half the game. I have it among DenjaX, amber, Lam, followind, and Shinichi. with a possible side of Penta that seems unlikely but needs a reread. You are probably never scum with both DenjaX and Penta.
Mar 26, 2017 1:32 PM

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Where is @Crossbell??
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Mar 26, 2017 1:32 PM

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RE1031 said:
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@RE1031 I would absolutely vote any of the others before you!

huh? O_O
hmm I guess I misunderstood?

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Or you. I'd like to enter your other entrance.

lewd.

I mean I'd rather vote logic then grrr, then followind, and then you.
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DenjaX said:
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Alternate route being re?
Or you. I'd like to enter your other entrance.


that just sounds really lewd


Mar 26, 2017 1:33 PM

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Loll, the more I read Grape's and Logic's thoughts the more weirded out I get
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Mar 26, 2017 1:33 PM

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Grapefruit21 said:
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you can't nail down my team because there is not a team I'm trying to figure out the game.

I mean I narrowed it down to half the game. I have it among DenjaX, amber, Lam, followind, and Shinichi. with a possible side of Penta that seems unlikely but needs a reread. You are probably never scum with both DenjaX and Penta.
the thing I'm trying to get you to understand is I am never scum in this game so please reevaluate it from that perspective
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Mar 26, 2017 1:34 PM

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amberwillow said:
Loll, the more I read Grape's and Logic's thoughts the more weirded out I get

What's confusing? I can tell my posts are getting less cogent. Happy to try and clear things up.
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@Denjax how do we know ur not scum buddies with either logic or GP trying to find a way to get us off the trail without linking you to either one of them and without one of them flipping. The longer both of them live the deeper a hole we as town are putting ourselves in.


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I told you guys to cut the bickering. Let the cops handle this. We pay them through our taxes.

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amberwillow said:
Loll, the more I read Grape's and Logic's thoughts the more weirded out I get
care to elaborate for us?
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Mar 26, 2017 1:35 PM

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logic340 said:
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I mean I narrowed it down to half the game. I have it among DenjaX, amber, Lam, followind, and Shinichi. with a possible side of Penta that seems unlikely but needs a reread. You are probably never scum with both DenjaX and Penta.
the thing I'm trying to get you to understand is I am never scum in this game so please reevaluate it from that perspective

You've never done the same for me. I'll reevaluate after a flip. Not before. Not when I'm this sure.
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Grapefruit21 said:
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the thing I'm trying to get you to understand is I am never scum in this game so please reevaluate it from that perspective

You've never done the same for me. I'll reevaluate after a flip. Not before. Not when I'm this sure.
RE just posted a bunch of links where I said we could be T/T so what are you even talking about right now?
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@Grapefruit21 are you reading the thread? Where is you top town read Crossbell at? in nowhere land on Follow??
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Mar 26, 2017 1:39 PM

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I know but I have this icky impression on you when I was catching up anyway. I am preparing some case for you. Also, there was no evidence to be found. There shouldn't be. Claire blundered and I am here to salvage something that may help town. Claire stopped keeping up with the shenanigans because she knew it would narrow down on who might be the remaining PR so it was a good call on her to step up.

Let me know when you finish.


30 minutes before phase change and @DenjaX I am still waiting. Where are all your reads? You would rather lynch me than Logic and Grapefruit, I get that. How about everyone else? Let's do it your way - if I'm scum, who are my partners?
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Let me know when you finish.


30 minutes before phase change and @DenjaX I am still waiting. Where are all your reads? You would rather lynch me than Logic and Grapefruit, I get that. How about everyone else? Let's do it your way - if I'm scum, who are my partners?
Are you certain that either Grapefruit or I are scum? What are you playing at right now?
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unvote

If Grapefruit flips scum i think follow is his partner

IF logic flips scum i think cross bell is his partner

I think denja is one or the other

Gladiator role can be scum aligned lets not forget this


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RE1031 said:

30 minutes before phase change and DenjaX I am still waiting. Where are all your reads? You would rather lynch me than Logic and Grapefruit, I get that. How about everyone else? Let's do it your way - if I'm scum, who are my partners?
I already said that you are too clean. Can't find any dirt. :(

Obviously, you aren't going to get lynched today and I am in no position to break tie and whatnot. So I will do this instead, I will promote no-lynch

Vote: logic340

Let's see how people will handle this.

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Ehh Shinichi unvotes

Unvote

for now

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DenjaX said:
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30 minutes before phase change and DenjaX I am still waiting. Where are all your reads? You would rather lynch me than Logic and Grapefruit, I get that. How about everyone else? Let's do it your way - if I'm scum, who are my partners?
I already said that you are too clean. Can't find any dirt. :(

Obviously, you aren't going to get lynched today and I am in no position to break tie and whatnot. So I will do this instead, I will promote no-lynch

Vote: logic340

Let's see how people will handle this.
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Gladiator role can be scum aligned lets not forget this
There is no gladiator role. I only proposed a somewhat Gladiator-esque scenario. It requires cooperation rather than forced through game mechanic.

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Ehh Shinichi unvotes

Unvote

for now


Lmao


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logic340 said:
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30 minutes before phase change and @DenjaX I am still waiting. Where are all your reads? You would rather lynch me than Logic and Grapefruit, I get that. How about everyone else? Let's do it your way - if I'm scum, who are my partners?
Are you certain that either Grapefruit or I are scum? What are you playing at right now?

I'm starting to think both of you are town. I don't know. But I don't want to vote for either of you when I can vote for Denja. I believe between the two of you, there is at least one scum on either of the trains. The fact I can't get a train started on Denja when I so easily started the train on Oyasumi_Rosie (or at least was the first one who voted for her and 5 people jumped on it) is weirding me out.
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DenjaX said:
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Gladiator role can be scum aligned lets not forget this
There is no gladiator role. I only proposed a somewhat Gladiator-esque scenario. It requires cooperation rather than forced through game mechanic.
I'm still open to this.
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Grapefruit21 (3) followind, Logic340, amberwillow
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For my neutral pile I have conflicting reads on each of them.
PentaFlare is an awesome scum player and hasn't done anything outside their range, but they have been overall townie. I think the push and then explanation for the CorruptedPurity was great and matches a lot of my own thinking. I also am somewhat sympathetic to not wanting to share reads that might change because of them. That said withholding reads is a great way to not be held accountable for them. I also think that logic's defense is pretty incriminating for Penta if logic were to flip scum, which is my prevailing world right now. Penta was townie, but not so obv town that people should have been rushing to say we should lynch the claimed town PR before the VT. And Claire wasn't so scummy to have earned that.

Followind has done almost nothing but has the opposite tonal purity to Sollux in my opinion. For some reason a lot of his posts just have a scummy feel I can't shake, but as above the recent Sollux is scummy because they are doing the same thing as me is awesome and I really want to town read him for having the cajones to make that read. Anyone who has played with him before let me know if that's inside his scum range.

grrr comes across as pretty helpful and cogent this game. I'd had a solid town lean here most of the game. However on my last reread I noticed something I can't get off. He could have been white knighting CorruptedPurity. That 12345 read was a reach and I'm not sure if I'm slipping into a pocket with him mind melding with me on logic. That is all tinfoil to be sure, but enough to knock him down a peg or two for me.
1)Are u talking about before or after when Claire took back her words?
2)The paragraph about Follow is strange. U were talking about neutral people, but for Follow u said like 1 sentence and the other part was about Sollux who u marked in your slight town read. Something doesn't match.
3)Grrr himself was talking all the time how he will white knight CP, so this part is not legit.

Also just a note but in that post u seem to use some expressions that others were using, not sure what to think about that, that might be irrelevant but still a note.
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@Grapefruit21 are you reading the thread? Where is you top town read Crossbell at? in nowhere land on Follow??
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I obviously I hold my top town reads to a different standards than the flabby middle.
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Are you certain that either Grapefruit or I are scum? What are you playing at right now?

I'm starting to think both of you are town. I don't know. But I don't want to vote for either of you when I can vote for Denja. I believe between the two of you, there is at least one scum on either of the trains. The fact I can't get a train started on Denja when I so easily started the train on Oyasumi_Rosie (or at least was the first one who voted for her and 5 people jumped on it) is weirding me out.
If I was to vote there it would be based on Claire's behavior and not Denja's. He pocketed me in our first game but I know he is a major asset as town as well.

Do you still feel the same way you did about grrr as you did earlier. I just have a hard time believing he would be this bold as scum but I have to wonder since so few have weighed in on my a questions about him.
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logic340 said:
amberwillow said:
Loll, the more I read Grape's and Logic's thoughts the more weirded out I get
care to elaborate for us?
for u it's mainly RE's posts.
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@Grapefruit21 are you reading the thread? Where is you top town read Crossbell at? in nowhere land on Follow??
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I obviously I hold my top town reads to a different standards than the flabby middle.
Like when you trusted Mishukax and voted RE in Twins mafia?
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There is no gladiator role. I only proposed a somewhat Gladiator-esque scenario. It requires cooperation rather than forced through game mechanic.
I'm still open to this.


Oh iassumed someone was actually gladiator with all this discussion that informationwould have helped earlier.


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Obviously mafia gave you summary notes that is why you were able to catch up rather fast.

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30 minutes before phase change and DenjaX I am still waiting. Where are all your reads? You would rather lynch me than Logic and Grapefruit, I get that. How about everyone else? Let's do it your way - if I'm scum, who are my partners?
I already said that you are too clean. Can't find any dirt. :(

Obviously, you aren't going to get lynched today and I am in no position to break tie and whatnot. So I will do this instead, I will promote no-lynch

Vote: logic340

Let's see how people will handle this.
wtf Denja
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