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followind said: Grapefruit21 said: Strongly disagree with this premise. I think it is a scum plus idea because it makes town afraid to vote, and with no votes we get no wagons which means no reactions. Can you point me to games where this method has caught scum for you? I agree with this since one of town power early on during the RVS stage is voting to create pressure on the people so we can get a read on them I want to add that if you divide it into too many trains with low numbers. The people voted won't feel any pressure at all which doesn't have any benefits for town since you can't get a read |
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| Penta specifically asked if you were a day cop who would you check now. Not at the EoD, not after a flip. Now. CPurity used it to get the idea of lynching me out there into the ether. Seems to be pushing a slight agenda and was so eager to do so that they stole a question from someone else but didn't read it properly. Not a good look. As for my meta check any of my other games, I come out guns blazing on D1 unless life gets in the way. Harhui, LQ, and FT are all good examples. As for the reasoning behind why you won't have to wait long to see it, but I'm going to sit on it for now. |
Grapefruit21 said: CorruptedPurity said: Fourth on the Logic train. No reasoning. The first 2 on the train during RVS is forgivable, the third should be looked into and the fourth must be looked into. You didn't make a joke about why you want to lynch logic, you just joined a train. Why? Strongly disagree with this premise. I think it is a scum plus idea because it makes town afraid to vote, and with no votes we get no wagons which means no reactions. Can you point me to games where this method has caught scum for you? I have nothing on this site to back my methods unfortunately. But don't mistake my idea for scum. Town is free to vote of course, but with good reasoning that is. If you're joining a wagon past 3 members in RVS, a reason should accompany it. A wagon with 3 members already applies pressure, your extra vote will not apply more pressure, if anything, it just shows that either A)you're lazy town and don't want to be bothered with others asking about your vote so you place it on a train or B)you're scum who decides that a train is a safe place to throw your vote as no one would question you. I for one will question you. Anyways, both scenarios are scenarios that we don't want. Furthermore, he didn't explain jack about why he wagoned logic. If he jumped he wagon with even the slightest explanation (even a joke about him being a dog person), it could be overlooked, but no, just a plain vote on the most popular wagon. How does that not raise suspicion to you? |
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Grapefruit21 said: How does asking for grrr to leave a reason with his vote equate to scum plus points? Are you now misrepresenting CP? He never said anything about not voting just that he felt certain positions on said train should be looked into. Do you think it's ok for people to just be placing blank votes? How do you feel about his position on my train?CorruptedPurity said: Fourth on the Logic train. No reasoning. The first 2 on the train during RVS is forgivable, the third should be looked into and the fourth must be looked into. You didn't make a joke about why you want to lynch logic, you just joined a train. Why? Strongly disagree with this premise. I think it is a scum plus idea because it makes town afraid to vote, and with no votes we get no wagons which means no reactions. Can you point me to games where this method has caught scum for you? |
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CorruptedPurity said: PentaFlare said: That's a lot of people though for an ability that can only check one person. Who do I check? I really hope this isn't a claim... Let's speak in a hypothetical world where you are the cop and I am you. If grape doesn't get lynched, I would check him tonight. If he gets lynched and flips town, I would look at me(corruptedPurity) for fossing him too much. If he gets lynched and flips scum, I would look at someone on Logic/RE's train because scum would be on that train to safe Grape.(Most probably logic or Cross, higher chance logic but depends on how the rest of the day plays out). But I'm a day cop. I'm checking some exactly in this very instant! It is of utmost urgency I know who to check right away! |
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followind said: This kind of contradicts the fact that you don't like to participate in RVS. You see the merit but wont participate yourself. What if we all had this mindset then what?Grapefruit21 said: Strongly disagree with this premise. I think it is a scum plus idea because it makes town afraid to vote, and with no votes we get no wagons which means no reactions. Can you point me to games where this method has caught scum for you? I agree with this since one of town power early on during the RVS stage is voting to create pressure on the people so we can get a read on them |
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CorruptedPurity said: Also, @PentaFlare Gimme your reads of the day. Tell me how you feel about RE and Grape. No thanks. Maybe later. |
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PentaFlare said: CorruptedPurity said: I really hope this isn't a claim... Let's speak in a hypothetical world where you are the cop and I am you. If grape doesn't get lynched, I would check him tonight. If he gets lynched and flips town, I would look at me(corruptedPurity) for fossing him too much. If he gets lynched and flips scum, I would look at someone on Logic/RE's train because scum would be on that train to safe Grape.(Most probably logic or Cross, higher chance logic but depends on how the rest of the day plays out). But I'm a day cop. I'm checking some exactly in this very instant! It is of utmost urgency I know who to check right away! I take this as a claim from Penta.. I would reccomend checking Grape to have a clear view of what alignment is he.. So we can be assured of his alignment later of |
PentaFlare said: CorruptedPurity said: I really hope this isn't a claim... Let's speak in a hypothetical world where you are the cop and I am you. If grape doesn't get lynched, I would check him tonight. If he gets lynched and flips town, I would look at me(corruptedPurity) for fossing him too much. If he gets lynched and flips scum, I would look at someone on Logic/RE's train because scum would be on that train to safe Grape.(Most probably logic or Cross, higher chance logic but depends on how the rest of the day plays out). But I'm a day cop. I'm checking some exactly in this very instant! It is of utmost urgency I know who to check right away! Also @grapefruit21 I didn't see day cop, it was only mentioned once and I've never heard of the role before, so when I see cop, I just say what's on my mind. Back to you, I really don't think you should've claimed... Question, does a day cop get results immediately or at the end of the day? Need to know this before I give you a definite answer. |
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PentaFlare said: Check GrapefruitCorruptedPurity said: I really hope this isn't a claim... Let's speak in a hypothetical world where you are the cop and I am you. If grape doesn't get lynched, I would check him tonight. If he gets lynched and flips town, I would look at me(corruptedPurity) for fossing him too much. If he gets lynched and flips scum, I would look at someone on Logic/RE's train because scum would be on that train to safe Grape.(Most probably logic or Cross, higher chance logic but depends on how the rest of the day plays out). But I'm a day cop. I'm checking some exactly in this very instant! It is of utmost urgency I know who to check right away! |
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CorruptedPurity said: Depends on mod..PentaFlare said: But I'm a day cop. I'm checking some exactly in this very instant! It is of utmost urgency I know who to check right away! Also @grapefruit21 I didn't see day cop, it was only mentioned once and I've never heard of the role before, so when I see cop, I just say what's on my mind. Back to you, I really don't think you should've claimed... Question, does a day cop get results immediately or at the end of the day? Need to know this before I give you a definite answer. It may be EoD or Immediately |
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CorruptedPurity said: I am here but I honestly have no idea how could i could be because I was up really late and didn't get much sleepWhy is there no one online for me to discuss the game with TwT |
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Grapefruit21 said: Fair enough and I agree with that sentiment regarding grrr. He's a man of few words and reading him is never easy so hopefully we can get him involved. He is on one of the main trains and you did say you wanted to hear people's thoughts on them so figured you might be curious.It's hard to raise my suspicion with just a vote D1. Doable but hard. Words are so much more important and lack of. If grrs vote had come 12 hours later I might raise an eyebrow, but not right now. Anyway I need to sleep. Off for now. |
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Grapefruit21 said: Penta specifically asked if you were a day cop who would you check now. Not at the EoD, not after a flip. Now. CPurity used it to get the idea of lynching me out there into the ether. Seems to be pushing a slight agenda and was so eager to do so that they stole a question from someone else but didn't read it properly. Not a good look. As for my meta check any of my other games, I come out guns blazing on D1 unless life gets in the way. Harhui, LQ, and FT are all good examples. As for the reasoning behind why you won't have to wait long to see it, but I'm going to sit on it for now. The idea of lynching you isn't exactly a new one I introduced. Take a look, you're on the top three lynch list. I already explained I never knew of day cop's existence til now and I misread. Fine, my fault. Bite me. As for your meta, I usually don't like meta plays, but I made an exception because of all the games I played with you, this is the only one that you came out guns blazing day 1. Point noted, I don't play that many games with you but still... can't ignore the fact that you had a recent meta shift. Thinking that your post about us not being able to see eye to eye is ringing true. |
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Grapefruit21 said: What is so "absurd" about it? answer me when you wake up later............... This reaction to penta is absurd Why does it being a day cop make you all think it's not a hypothetical question anymore? Really off to bed this time. |
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Grapefruit21 said: .............. This reaction to penta is absurd Why does it being a day cop make you all think it's not a hypothetical question anymore? Really off to bed this time. Cause he just said "But I'm day cop" |
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followind said: CorruptedPurity said: Depends on mod..Also @grapefruit21 I didn't see day cop, it was only mentioned once and I've never heard of the role before, so when I see cop, I just say what's on my mind. Back to you, I really don't think you should've claimed... Question, does a day cop get results immediately or at the end of the day? Need to know this before I give you a definite answer. It may be EoD or Immediately If immediately, definitely grapefruit because of how he's acting. Also we don't want to mislynch him if he's really town. If at EoD, you may want to hold on to that. If we're lynching Grape, its useless to check him. |
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CorruptedPurity said: PentaFlare said: But I'm a day cop. I'm checking some exactly in this very instant! It is of utmost urgency I know who to check right away! Also @grapefruit21 I didn't see day cop, it was only mentioned once and I've never heard of the role before, so when I see cop, I just say what's on my mind. Back to you, I really don't think you should've claimed... Question, does a day cop get results immediately or at the end of the day? Need to know this before I give you a definite answer. Let's say immediate results and you have 1 minute from whenever you see this to decide or you are too late and I can't submit anymore. |
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CorruptedPurity said: If immediately, definitely grapefruit because of how he's acting. Also we don't want to mislynch him if he's really town. If at EoD, you may want to hold on to that. If we're lynching Grape, its useless to check him. Or we can lynch the 2nd most suspicious one and check on grape later? |
Oyasumi_Rosie said: yes he just claimedWait... the day cop was a serious claim? I just woke up seven minutes go don't do this to my poor gullible heart /edit: I mean... he could be a cop, but a day cop? I don't think that is happening |
PentaFlare said: CorruptedPurity said: Also @grapefruit21 I didn't see day cop, it was only mentioned once and I've never heard of the role before, so when I see cop, I just say what's on my mind. Back to you, I really don't think you should've claimed... Question, does a day cop get results immediately or at the end of the day? Need to know this before I give you a definite answer. Let's say immediate results and you have 1 minute from whenever you see this to decide or you are too late and I can't submit anymore. Grape. Now |
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PentaFlare said: CorruptedPurity said: Also @grapefruit21 I didn't see day cop, it was only mentioned once and I've never heard of the role before, so when I see cop, I just say what's on my mind. Back to you, I really don't think you should've claimed... Question, does a day cop get results immediately or at the end of the day? Need to know this before I give you a definite answer. Let's say immediate results and you have 1 minute from whenever you see this to decide or you are too late and I can't submit anymore. I would say grape |
RE1031 said: Oh? Then how is it that u didn't state your reason when u voted? U're kinda contradicting urself.Because I like having reasons other than personal for voting for people. Isn't my current opinion on Crossbell based on how suspicious he is? Right now, I have no town reads on anyone. He's just neutral, I guess. Do u need to guess what is your opinion lel? xD Um, how should I know? U never gave a clear reply as to why Cross is susp/what is your opinion about him now. (Tho now u stated that he is neutral for u, so that's something.) |
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followind said: CorruptedPurity said: If immediately, definitely grapefruit because of how he's acting. Also we don't want to mislynch him if he's really town. If at EoD, you may want to hold on to that. If we're lynching Grape, its useless to check him. Or we can lynch the 2nd most suspicious one and check on grape later? Thanks for humoring me. So who are your thoughts on second most suspicious? I have mine which I don't mind sharing at a later time but tell me your's first. |
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followind said: God I am going to say the thing that I hate reading the most, but that sounds like the stupidest thing I have ever heard of in a basic game. I am like 85% sure Penta is being sarcastic right now.Oyasumi_Rosie said: yes he just claimedWait... the day cop was a serious claim? I just woke up seven minutes go don't do this to my poor gullible heart /edit: I mean... he could be a cop, but a day cop? I don't think that is happening |
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CorruptedPurity said: Either you or RE would be my next target to confirmThanks for humoring me. So who are your thoughts on second most suspicious? I have mine which I don't mind sharing at a later time but tell me your's first. Or you can check on Grr since he's pretty hard to get a read on |
PentaFlare said: Are you being serious right now or nah?Let's say immediate results and you have 1 minute from whenever you see this to decide or you are too late and I can't submit anymore. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: I was wondering why he claimed so early since mafia can just kill him directly..followind said: God I am going to say the thing that I hate reading the most, but that sounds like the stupidest thing I have ever heard of in a basic game. I am like 85% sure Penta is being sarcastic right now.yes he just claimed Maybe he is hoping for a doctor or maybe he is a mafia that is trying to kill town or justify that grape is good.. Either way I'm a bit paranoid |
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amberwillow said: RE1031 said: Oh? Then how is it that u didn't state your reason when u voted? U're kinda contradicting urself.Because I like having reasons other than personal for voting for people. Isn't my current opinion on Crossbell based on how suspicious he is? Right now, I have no town reads on anyone. He's just neutral, I guess. Do u need to guess what is your opinion lel? xD Um, how should I know? U never gave a clear reply as to why Cross is susp/what is your opinion about him now. (Tho now u stated that he is neutral for u, so that's something.) Piqued my interest. Why does RE feel defensive and the need to justify herself during RVS? This caused her to jumble up and slip here and there. I can see a world where she's just careless and town though. But I would prefer to push on this. Care to talk RE? |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Yes...I'd say wait for the results of whatever Penta's investagation is, lynch Grape today, then depending on the Grape flip, lynch Penta tomorrow. That's a logical play.. But let's say they're both town.. If we mislynch them then it would be such a waste |
followind said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: I was wondering why he claimed so early since mafia can just kill him directly..God I am going to say the thing that I hate reading the most, but that sounds like the stupidest thing I have ever heard of in a basic game. I am like 85% sure Penta is being sarcastic right now. Maybe he is hoping for a doctor or maybe he is a mafia that is trying to kill town or justify that grape is good.. Either way I'm a bit paranoid My theory is he fakeclaimed to draw reads. Cheeky... |
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followind said: I was wondering why he claimed so early since mafia can just kill him directly.. Maybe he is hoping for a doctor or maybe he is a mafia that is trying to kill town or justify that grape is good.. Either way I'm a bit paranoid I mean... I am pretty paranoid in games myself, so excuse the kettle calling the pot black here. But that really doesn't make any sense. Not really for a basic game like this. If its true, however, it makes sense to come out now. Then town can start using his info right away if he finds anything out. But those are some big ass ifs. Despite what I said, I don't see scum making a big dumb fake claim like that either. So if I use that scale I mentioned before, Penta is probably sitting at a 3.5 right now. |
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followind said: CorruptedPurity said: Either you or RE would be my next target to confirmThanks for humoring me. So who are your thoughts on second most suspicious? I have mine which I don't mind sharing at a later time but tell me your's first. Or you can check on Grr since he's pretty hard to get a read on Hmm both are agreeable suspicious lynch targets. Me because of my aggressiveness and RE cos of her slip up. I don't think you need to explain that. Why Grrr? Reading an inactive is a gamble. It works but if I were a day cop, I rather use my ability to save/secure a lynch for the day. No one is interested in Grrr, reading him gives him a 3/13 chance of finding scum at the cost that if it's the 10/13, we only have an inactive townie and no proper scum targets. Reevaluating day cop, I think checking on highly active players are a stronger play. It can help save grape if he's town or secure a lynch if he's scum. It can also save me if grape flips town or secure a kill on me if I am mafia. You get the idea. |
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followind said: No its not. We get one of our beings scum reads out of the way (Grape) and we get an untrustworthy claim out of the way (penta)Oyasumi_Rosie said: Yes...I'd say wait for the results of whatever Penta's investagation is, lynch Grape today, then depending on the Grape flip, lynch Penta tomorrow. That's a logical play.. But let's say they're both town.. If we mislynch them then it would be such a waste It opens up the pool and free up peoples minds not to get distracted with petty little things, about lies early on in the game. |
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CorruptedPurity said: Hmm both are agreeable suspicious lynch targets. Me because of my aggressiveness and RE cos of her slip up. I don't think you need to explain that. . Did RE also slip up during the early game of Twins too? |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: I mean... I am pretty paranoid in games myself, so excuse the kettle calling the pot black here. What if everyone is mafia and told that they are separated from their team and each of them is trying to win the game sneakily in their own ways? Kappa |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: CorruptedPurity said: Hmm both are agreeable suspicious lynch targets. Me because of my aggressiveness and RE cos of her slip up. I don't think you need to explain that. . Did RE also slip up during the early game of Twins too? Can't remember but I don't think so... |
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CorruptedPurity said: Hey I don't fuck around with all mafia game. That actually happened to me once.Oyasumi_Rosie said: I mean... I am pretty paranoid in games myself, so excuse the kettle calling the pot black here. What if everyone is mafia and told that they are separated from their team and each of them is trying to win the game sneakily in their own ways? Kappa That being said.... its possible....but not for this game lol |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: followind said: I was wondering why he claimed so early since mafia can just kill him directly.. Maybe he is hoping for a doctor or maybe he is a mafia that is trying to kill town or justify that grape is good.. Either way I'm a bit paranoid I mean... I am pretty paranoid in games myself, so excuse the kettle calling the pot black here. But that really doesn't make any sense. Not really for a basic game like this. If its true, however, it makes sense to come out now. Then town can start using his info right away if he finds anything out. But those are some big ass ifs. Despite what I said, I don't see scum making a big dumb fake claim like that either. So if I use that scale I mentioned before, Penta is probably sitting at a 3.5 right now. OK I accept your logic.. Since this is just a basic game.. Let's draw to a simple one then.. He's using day cop to get reads |
CorruptedPurity said: Because my early D1's suck and they need work. What do you consider to be substantial?@logic340 You're awfully quiet... Aren't you and grape the "full of theories and reads" brothers? Why are you not contributing anything substantial? @PentaFlare Going to retract that claim? Tell us what you managed to get from our reaction to your claim (I believe that's why you claimed in the first place) Not sure what to make of PentaFlare claiming Day Cop, I have trouble reading him (read scum as town read, town as scum) though there may be some truth in plain sight to his response to grapefruit that isn't enough for me to make a determination. Grapefruit looks like he will sort himself early which is fine. Not sure what to make of RE she is an interesting player. Going to give myself a moment to try and figure you out. I was deep in your pocket in twins so in know what you are capable of as mafia. Sollux seems genuine and pure, town lean from grape seems reasonable but then there's the post you highlighted which implies he isn't reading the thread. Lam-B I do better interacting with though I have only played one game with them. Rosie is Rosie I share your sentiment please let he live |
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