Qoco said: @Grapefruit21 I would advise you to place the vote elsewhere. That's my suggestion. Ruu made herself too easy of a target. On the reverse of this has Karote your current lynch also made them self a easy target off bad play what makes them different from Ruu in that aspect. I could agrue a lot of people are easy targets at the moment |
 |
Jackrito said: I think I a agree with this Qoco has even made himself somewhat of an easy target with the way he is posting and lack of game solving. Qoco said: @Grapefruit21 I would advise you to place the vote elsewhere. That's my suggestion. Ruu made herself too easy of a target. On the reverse of this has Karote your current lynch also made them self a easy target off bad play what makes them different from Ruu in that aspect. I could agrue a lot of people are easy targets at the moment |
Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC  |
| It's 11 pm here and I'm falling asleep. J intend to be up for phase change which is at 9am my time, but I can't promise that. I know people didn't want to spend the whole phase on Ruu, but I think it's time to come back to it now. |
| How did Grape become the leading train? Btw, here~ but I'll post only after dinner. |
 |
Qoco said: My issue with this is we shouldn't have to track you down and ask you silly question you should be putting gyour thoughts I to the thread. You signed up for the game we shouldn't have to shake you down for reads. logic340 said: @Qoco, @Ruu, @Karote, @Lam-B We kind of need your participation @Shinichi I'll get to #1303 when I'm back on pc. I'm here. I worked 10 - 7 today. Grapefruit21 said: Well as of now you've been somewhat vague in your read on me (at least I'm mmy view) Care to give some examples of what these tells are?logic340 said: @Lam-B any chance we can get some thoughts from you? @PentaFlare that grapefruit case is pretty solid. My day 1 vibe from his was not what I expect from town Grapefruit but I've been scum reading him hard lately so I didn't pursue it. Here were my thoughts: Surprisingly he wasn't in my top 3 scum reads at this time? I wish I would have acted more on these feelings day 1. Time to apply the pressure and see where it leads us. Vote: Grapefruit @Grapefruit21 What is it about grrr's claim here that you feel so strongly about compared to the last time he claimed a role early? You generally don't want to sacrifice a "possible" power role until a counter or something credible comes along so why are you so certain that grrr is mafia lying and not town? I'm finding it puzzling that I am your strongest town read (at least appear to be) though my behavior isn't nearly as townie as like to believe it to be. You've been scum reading me hard lately, I don't think I have gotten a town read from you this easily since we were mason brothers (4 lyfe!). I definitely don't want to get into another death battle with you (unless you are scum) but I need to sort you out and it's not looking pretty. You say it's surprising I wasn't in your top three scum reads at the time, but I don't see anything in those quotes that suggests I should have been. As for reading you Kitty mafia taught me a lot. I read and reread that game and our "duel" and I picked up on a lot of tells I think I'm seeing here. Oyasumi_Rosie said: logic340 said: what are your thoughts on Ruu's Miller claim? Penta and my cases on grapefruit? Karote's vote on Jackrito? Lucian's lynch train? Lam-B's vision and the issuing discussion? 1-Miller claims are always bad. This makes her look bad. Maybe for some that will enough to push them to vote, the fine. She hasn't done enough to prove either way. Basically what aa-dono is saying in #1201 2- They seem good? I guess. Penta's agrument was too wordy for me to follow, and he didn't seem to have concluding sentence that summed his major points up. Your's is shorter and to the point which makes it easier to questions. Why can't you agree with Grapefurit choice there? 3-More information on it than I thought @suzune-chan What happens when votes are tied? 4-I have been reading the thread pretty regularly, and I have no idea what you are talking about here These are all questions you could have answered yourself I didn't need to ask them. 1. So should we lynch her for claiming and her behavior or do you think she might be town? 2. You say they seem good, does that mean you agree with them? 3. I asked how you felt about Karote's vote on Jack and the Lucian train. Where did this question for Suzune come from? 4. Lam-B claimed that they have and Ascetic Modifier on their ability. Penta Jack and I had a conversation about it shortly after Oyasumi_Rosie said: What makes you think this?Then we already know the double voter was on CP's trains last phase. |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
Grapefruit21 said: What is there to go back to she hasn't posted since April 20th. It's 11 pm here and I'm falling asleep. J intend to be up for phase change which is at 9am my time, but I can't promise that. I know people didn't want to spend the whole phase on Ruu, but I think it's time to come back to it now. Let's talk about Qoco, Karote, Lam-B, or Rosie We pretty much know how people feel about Ruu what is making her the center of attention right now going to accomplish for us? |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
| @logic340 Short version is a few things. You haven't brought up old stances in an accusatory way, which was your go to tactic as scum. You have made strange responses to quotes like your 1352 where you take a statement and go somewhere completely different with it but act like you are agreeing that you didn't do as scum. As I have said like five times the way you handled your lamby and qoco reads was classic town logic. Particularly your determination on qoco when everyone else was scratching their heads. Bed for real this time. |
Qoco - Only read I could get last game was a scum read (I was correct) and I am getting similar feeling here. He did seem more carefree early than he did in our previous game but not going to say that makes him town. Need to see some effort otherwise he could get lynched. Karote - Anyone who wasn't on that train can question it so if anything it's NAI at best. His lack of participation, scum hunting, reads, and game solving are scum tells. Maybe you can get him to be more active not afraid to vote here at all. Lam-B - there isn't one particular post I can point, it was the whole string of posts. It just feels exactly the same dump some posts, get some town credit, and disappear. I understand this is how he plays every game but it feels different than the time I saw him as town (though I was mafia that game). Not saying he's scum but I need to look deeper into him. The Ascetic claim worries me as well Rosie - I feel like that is a waste of a Vig Shot especially if Ruu makes it through this phase. I just want to see her make some reads without being asked to. You know take a little initiative. Ruu - I like that we haven't wasted a whole day sitting on her but 4 people barely posting is killing our production today. And she is one of the guilty party's. She's played bad and I can not keep defending it as bad town (though that is exactly what it might be). Best Vig option at this stage if she survives the day. grrr - He's grrr Grapefruit - I am going to have to take some time and continue looking at this. I don't want to over think it and most of my early thoughts weren't good. Coelsitn - I guess you could be right there and it's something to think about but I don't see it right now and the vibes feel townie to me. Shinichi - Hi aa-dono - You didn't say anything about my read on her :( PentaFlare - Lynching him is always a possibility but I want to be certain this time around. Jackrito - Take how you feel about me out of it and just look at his play and what I said about him, what do you think? Now do the opposite if I am scum am I protecting a buddy or whiteknighting him? |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
Oyasumi_Rosie said: What does the CP's death have to do with this? We are talking about Lucian's death, then the inheritor takes his ability. What people are saying is that Lucian could have been the Doc and now that he died grrr has inherited his ability being that he may be a nurse (grrr's claim).Jackrito said: Sorry I just noticed this.Because he said nurse, inheritor sounded like it would of took any role nurse can only take Doc This is flawed. He would still be the nurse even if CP was the doctor and died. This only proves that there is a doctor in play. If you believe Grrrs claim of course |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
logic340 said: Grapefruit21 said: What is there to go back to she hasn't posted since April 20th. It's 11 pm here and I'm falling asleep. J intend to be up for phase change which is at 9am my time, but I can't promise that. I know people didn't want to spend the whole phase on Ruu, but I think it's time to come back to it now. Let's talk about Qoco, Karote, Lam-B, or Rosie We pretty much know how people feel about Ruu what is making her the center of attention right now going to accomplish for us? Okay last reply for real Karote hasn't posted anything that would make me regret lynching them, but nothing that actively makes me want to. They also have barely posted in the last 24 hours. Not much to discuss new there. Ruu is sxummier and 9 hours before deadline it's time to get serious. Lam-b has posted less than Ruu since D1 (none) and has vague town signs. Wouldn't be missed at this stage but not actively scum reading them. Qoco and Rosie have been posting, but in a way that isn't solving the game. Easily a PoE lynch like the two above but not actively scum reading them. Unlike them ruu was a scum read before they stopped posting. There isn't anything new to go on, but that on it's own is worrying too. I'd be fine lynching any of those four and dono as well, but Ruu makes the most sense to me. And if we're going to do a pure PoE lynch and ignore scumminess and just shoot into the not posting pool anyway it should be on the claimed Miller. Because other slots can at least be potentially cleared by mechanics. |
Grapefruit21 said: Honestly as scum I just tried to survive. @logic340 Short version is a few things. You haven't brought up old stances in an accusatory way, which was your go to tactic as scum. You have made strange responses to quotes like your 1352 where you take a statement and go somewhere completely different with it but act like you are agreeing that you didn't do as scum. As I have said like five times the way you handled your lamby and qoco reads was classic town logic. Particularly your determination on qoco when everyone else was scratching their heads. Bed for real this time. D2 I focused on Suzune got her in a claim situation. I tried to gain Claire's trust by town reading her that blew up in my face. D3 I made it about Karote and grrr's claims since they still hadn't been resolve. I also white knighted the shit out of Rinto all day long. I painted myself into a corner where I only had 1 person I could vote on. D4 Death match with you. You were sure I would get lynched but it didn't work out that way. I was very singularly focused as scum that is the one thing I know. Lack of punctuation maybe makes what I said make less sense. I agree with Jack about Karote his style keeps him in that area and Qoco who is asking you to move your vote is doing pretty much what you are doing. I also feel like Qoco falls into this category. Does that make people in this category town? No it certainly doesn't, just means that I expect to hear easy lynch LHF from people who go after these targets. I feel like people didn't want to actually think about why Qoco would lie there as town. I still don't think people have though about it but I backed off. If he flips scum I will be highly upset as everytime I catch scum people are left scratching there heads while the scum get away scottfree. |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
Grapefruit21 said: I know you said you were off to bed but when you come back can you cite a few instances that you are talking about?My reversal on Shinichi was based largely on his N1 posting. If you're trying to sort him out I'd look there as a start. I think it's much more telling than his D1 posts. |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
PentaFlare said: When making points about tone or behaviour changes, isn't it better to see it chronologically?First is a tonal scumtell in regards to grape's view of grrr. For most of the phase, grape is very focused on the idea of scum!grrr and is very confident in their scumread. In fact, in posts like #496, grape is treating grrr like you would treat confirmed scum. However, in #212, there is a sudden shift of tone that only lasts for this post (and one extra sentence in #194, but #212 highlights it better). Grape is saying that this one thing they have been going at grrr's throat all phase for is a "low impact offense" but is scummy only because everything else is mostly fluff. This tonal change is really scummy, because it shows that grape doesn't actually have a strong scumread on grrr, but are trying really hard to make grrr appear scummy. A town member would have a consistent tone towards a person, either really strong or more moderate, but grape doesn't. A read can change, but it would do so in a directed manner, whereas grape didn't start to back off after this softer post, just went back to going hard at grrr. It's a slip of grape's actual knowledge that the case on grrr is fake. I think #212 makes sense if he voted for grrr for "low impact offense". Typically, fishing for roles is just bad, so for an early vote this makes sense. It would frustrate anyone if their scumread are being let off simply because that's how he plays. Despite not making sense of grrr role question or some even finds it ridiculous, they still replied anyway, so that doesn't really make #496 odd especially since it was directed to Shinichi who expressed that grrr was being (can't remember what word he used - ridiculous/weird??) but answered the role thing regardless. If anything, I'd say Shinichi's behaviour is inconsistent. PentaFlare said: Hmm... will keep this in mind.Another scumtell I have picked up on are their hyperbolic reads. Grape is waaay too fast to give someone a scumread or a townread. This isn't related to early game where they came up with FOS on Qoco and grrr and two small townreads. Grape said those were weak. What I'm referring to is later on when grape will get a really strong read off just one thing. For example, their read on logic. Grape said that logic's case on Lamby "screamed town" (#493. The loaded diction implies heavy confidence and that the read should be obvious to anyone. However, this isn't justified. Grape is basing this read off meta, which can give townreads, but is never enough to instantly read someone as town off one case. This is a scummy read because someone who knows who is town easily sees town motive in everything they do, especially when referring to meta. They know that this is their town game, so they relate it subconsciously to their other town games. Meta is the easiest way to catch scum giving a townread too fast. PentaFlare said: He asked more specific questions after #500. But well, I can understand where this scumread came from.The third scumtell is that grape is focused so much on asking really easy questions and not analyzing much. Post #500 is a great example of a whole bunch of really easy questions that don't take a lot of critical thinking to come up with. grape is keeping busy by asking a bunch of easy questions to keep the appearance of generating information, but isn't taking the step of analyzing the information they have been working to produce and condensing it into reads. The first part is what every player who isn't super familiar with playing scum thinks is most important to appear to do because it is "hunting" for information, but it is the second that reveals if they are actually trying to find scum. Grape makes reads, but looking at each of them, I haven't found signs of critical thinking outside of post #496 (linked earlier) where there is a meta comparison for logic which isn't enough to support the strength of the read on logic, and is meta, which is the easiest analysis to fake. The read on grrr has nothing. It is IIoA. Grape focuses on statements like "grrr is trying to find information about PRs" instead of analysis. Also, look at the vote on grrr (#174). It is awwwwwful. A bunch of neutral statements and questions to grrr, then a vote out of the blue with not explanation. PentaFlare said: What's fudding?Finally, and this one mostly explains itself, grape has been fudding a little here and there. Especially #496 in the way they paint grrr as a bane to town and completely untrustworthy with emotional appeal, which is often scummy rhetoric when another person is the subject. This is the weakest, but add it to everything here, and jeez. There is so much scum mindset visible everywhere. |
|
logic340 said: +1aa-dono - You didn't say anything about my read on her :( @Shinichi-Kun :( |
|
Grapefruit21 said: logic340 said: What is there to go back to she hasn't posted since April 20th. Let's talk about Qoco, Karote, Lam-B, or Rosie We pretty much know how people feel about Ruu what is making her the center of attention right now going to accomplish for us? Okay last reply for real Karote hasn't posted anything that would make me regret lynching them, but nothing that actively makes me want to. They also have barely posted in the last 24 hours. Not much to discuss new there. Ruu is sxummier and 9 hours before deadline it's time to get serious. Lam-b has posted less than Ruu since D1 (none) and has vague town signs. Wouldn't be missed at this stage but not actively scum reading them. Qoco and Rosie have been posting, but in a way that isn't solving the game. Easily a PoE lynch like the two above but not actively scum reading them. Unlike them ruu was a scum read before they stopped posting. There isn't anything new to go on, but that on it's own is worrying too. I'd be fine lynching any of those four and dono as well, but Ruu makes the most sense to me. And if we're going to do a pure PoE lynch and ignore scumminess and just shoot into the not posting pool anyway it should be on the claimed Miller. Because other slots can at least be potentially cleared by mechanics. I find it odd that you would give Karote a pass for not being on in the last 24 but Ruu is pushing 48 hours and you are hard and fast with her like she is lurking or something? Your vote has been sitting there doing jack shit on her and grrr this phase I think it's high time you started doing something. Lam-B - Sounds just like Kitty mafia vague town signs when he posts low key and skating by. Some vote here might not hurt if he doesn't get replaced. I'm pretty sure we wont be hearing from him again until late Sunday or Monday (I really hope I am wrong though) I can see where you are coming from but doesn't that make it a great place to hide as scum since we cannot make a clear scum read off of what is beign given to us. Qoco has been asked questions turns around and says they aren't worth his time that seems kind of scummy no? Ruu you haven't even begun to reevaluate your stance. As Shinichi said you are only looking at the claim and nothing else surrounding it. Same with grrr which is the opposite of what I am used to with you. Claire claimed under little pressure and you believed that shit hook line and sinker because it was a possible PR and we couldn't risk losing it. Why haven't you taken that stance with grrr? Qoco should be a scum read (imo), I ask you to go back and re-read things see what he has done that keeps him from being a scum read and cite them for me. You aren't being very transparent, your reads are extra weak right now in my opinion. Like you have no support for anything you are saying to me right now and I don't like and am not used to that from you. Going to need to see your case on dono. I am fairly good at reading her (when town anyway) so I would love to hear what you got on her. Miller can still be resolved by a vig shot as well so do we really want to risk another mislynch on the hopes that Ruu is lying and is mafia when she in fact be us the truth? |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
logic340 said: If you wanted interaction, wouldn't it be enough to just ask him questions and see if he replies to them when he's online?Lam-B - info dump and go is what I call his style. I find him very hard to read. Wish I would have gotten some kind of interactions from him but our time zones keep that from happening. I feel like this is so remenicent of his scum game more than the town game I saw but there is nothing from this game that I can really say is scum Lam 100% certain. logic340 said: Why do you feel the need to defend her?Ruu - She has some things to clear up. Still not sold on scum!Ruu yet but she is making it increasingly harder to defend against the scum reads being leveled against her. If you guys want to lynch her far be it from me to stop you at this point. logic340 said: Tbh, I don't think Coel had anything to apologize for. Any mislynch is a collective fault. It's Lucy's fault for not coming up with better defense or reads, and it's everyone else fault for misreading, or not pushing on their own reads better. The fact that she apologizes makes it feel like she's appealing to town. Wouldn't peg it as scummy, since I like the flow of her thoughts so far, but it's definitely was not a town-like post from her.Coelestin - I don't think she asks me to jump on the Lucian train like that as scum. Maybe I am wrong but with how hard I scum read her in our last game (shit was emotional) I don't think scum Coelestin comes at me in this manner. Also that apology for the lynch seems very genuine and attention grabbing in a way that mafia would want to avoid imo logic340 said: Yeah, I'm losing my that townvibe from Shin-chan too.Shinichi - I am just not getting that vibe that I have been getting the last few games. That very motivated to win as town vibe. I really need to look harder into him but even though I don't feel that motivation I can't make a good case for scumnichi either. logic340 said: The way you phrase it makes it seems like you don't actually believe it, but still wouldn't put that as scummy. Why?aa-dono - definitely looks to be scum hunting. D1 was a mix for her but the one think is the vote staying on Lucian. That cannot be attributed solely to scum so it's NAI. I am really liking her D2 so far but I need to see more as I feel biased because the majority of it revolves around soring me. logic340 said: +1Penta - I never know how to feel about Penta. I usually give him a really hard but I feel like I need to step back and slow down. His position on the train makes me wonder but it's not a solid tell. I'm kind of torn on this grapefruit case because it could be seen as scum trying to justify a vote but I don't see Penta making that move as scum? Except that I'm wavering because of his middle points on Grape. logic340 said: I would agree on Jack for now. I prefer to keep Jack in the neutral area so that I'll continuously reassess my reads on him.Jackrito - I stated it recently but I am feeling pretty comfortable here. I can follow his though process well. His vote on Lucian was well explained throughout D1 before the move. He's been consistent in my opinion and I can't say he seems fairly unaligned. #982 and #1169 seem particularly townie. in #1169 ce isn't closing off Ruu as an option and is suggesting we continue the search (something I like to do). |
|
| Okay I know I said I wasn't posting anymore but 1365 broke my will... And to the previous one I went into detail elsewhere but basically I strongly town read Shinichi going oint by point on your wall. Also a few other things made sense in retrospect that I'm not going to discuss at this stage. @logic340 are you intentionally misconstruing my actions or just not reading my posts? I don't know how you can think I'm still pushing grrr. I pushed the crap out of him when I thought there was a mechanical dichotomy and backed completely off when it became clear that wasn't as true as I'd thought. I also immediately backed off when he claimed the first time. So I don't know where you are getting the idea that I'm pushing him. Second what part of my post made it seem like I was letting Karote off easily? The part where I said I'd be happy to lynch him? Third why is my vote doing nothing on Ruu? You said yourself they are a viable vig target that means they are worth voting for. Thank you very much. Fourth why vig a lynch that is easy to build a consensus on? It's never going to be hard to get enough votes to lynch Ruu. The beauty of a vig is they can check someone suspect who Has a lot of sway and would be hard to lynch. That is the opposite of Ruu. Fifth a mis vig is the same as a mislynch. Stop acting like I'm commiting a grevious sin for pushing this lynch when a vig could clean it up. If I'm wrong it's a dead town either way and if I'm right we might as well take advantage of the easy lynch with mass consensus. Sixth remember when you accused me of not adjusted my views? You've sure come a long way on Ruu as well. Seventh I made a massive case on dono right before Jack made theirs. I'm not digging it up for you. I concluded they are plausible scum, but I'd rather sort the miller first. It was right before I had the brainwave about the potential nurse/inheritor conflict. Eighth I have nothing to reevaluate Ruu by because they've posted nothing. |
Grapefruit21 said: Okay I know I said I wasn't posting anymore but 1365 broke my will... And to the previous one I went into detail elsewhere but basically I strongly town read Shinichi going oint by point on your wall. Also a few other things made sense in retrospect that I'm not going to discuss at this stage. @logic340 are you intentionally misconstruing my actions or just not reading my posts? I don't know how you can think I'm still pushing grrr. I pushed the crap out of him when I thought there was a mechanical dichotomy and backed completely off when it became clear that wasn't as true as I'd thought. I also immediately backed off when he claimed the first time. So I don't know where you are getting the idea that I'm pushing him. Second what part of my post made it seem like I was letting Karote off easily? The part where I said I'd be happy to lynch him? Third why is my vote doing nothing on Ruu? You said yourself they are a viable vig target that means they are worth voting for. Thank you very much. Fourth why vig a lynch that is easy to build a consensus on? It's never going to be hard to get enough votes to lynch Ruu. The beauty of a vig is they can check someone suspect who Has a lot of sway and would be hard to lynch. That is the opposite of Ruu. Fifth a mis vig is the same as a mislynch. Stop acting like I'm commiting a grevious sin for pushing this lynch when a vig could clean it up. If I'm wrong it's a dead town either way and if I'm right we might as well take advantage of the easy lynch with mass consensus. Sixth remember when you accused me of not adjusted my views? You've sure come a long way on Ruu as well. Seventh I made a massive case on dono right before Jack made theirs. I'm not digging it up for you. I concluded they are plausible scum, but I'd rather sort the miller first. It was right before I had the brainwave about the potential nurse/inheritor conflict. Eighth I have nothing to reevaluate Ruu by because they've posted nothing. grrr - You aren't pushing him now but your vote was there until I asked how serious you were about lynching Ruu. To which you responded "deadly serious" and moved your vote back from grrr. You said recently you still don't get what Penta is seeing but backed off (not because you see the point but because it's not going to get you anywhere if you continue to push it). So here you make it seem like your view changed and that is why the vote moved back when it seems to me it was due to me prodding you about it? Karote - Saying you are willing to lynch and actually doing something to sort a player out are two completely different things though. OK so you are willing to lynch him how does that prove to me he or you is town? It doesn't I need to see something from the both of you and pushing him isn't a bad way for you to do that. I mean that she hasn't been on for going on 48 hours so what good is your vote really doing there? You could pressure others in a way Jack is with his vote while you wait. But instead you park it on Ruu (where you will probably vote EoD anyway) and accomplish what for the rest of the time? If Ruu was so easy to build a consensus on then why are you currently leading the lynch today? Think about that for a second then come back to me. So why was it cool for everyone to call for the vig to shoot her N1 if she is so easy to lynch today? Why waste that shot if lynch can just take care of it. You don't seem to be worried about mislynching here are you sure you have a town win con? You know what I will listen to you and stop acting like you made a grievous sin if you start listening and doing what I tell you to do. Do we have a deal? Move you vote and do something productive with it that is the first thing I need you to do. Lets see if you follow instructions. Please be more specific about #6 Ruu was in my top 3 suspect list D1 now I don't necessarily see the scum read I would say that is moving a long way, so your statement isn't making any sense since it seems you are saying my read hasn't moved at all? You only have to link it....not digging it up for you. Must not have much confidence in it? It's all good I will find it as you know I am good at that. You can go back to D1 and reevaluate what she has done. That is what reevaluating is going over what you already know, not waiting for new information to change your view. You aren't even trying and this is why I am voting you right now. |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
| Yes, I can see that now. How convenient that my vote end up lynching someone I don't mind being lynched anyway :/ |
|
aa-dono said: logic340 said: If you wanted interaction, wouldn't it be enough to just ask him questions and see if he replies to them when he's online?Lam-B - info dump and go is what I call his style. I find him very hard to read. Wish I would have gotten some kind of interactions from him but our time zones keep that from happening. I feel like this is so remenicent of his scum game more than the town game I saw but there is nothing from this game that I can really say is scum Lam 100% certain. logic340 said: Why do you feel the need to defend her?Ruu - She has some things to clear up. Still not sold on scum!Ruu yet but she is making it increasingly harder to defend against the scum reads being leveled against her. If you guys want to lynch her far be it from me to stop you at this point. logic340 said: Tbh, I don't think Coel had anything to apologize for. Any mislynch is a collective fault. It's Lucy's fault for not coming up with better defense or reads, and it's everyone else fault for misreading, or not pushing on their own reads better. The fact that she apologizes makes it feel like she's appealing to town. Wouldn't peg it as scummy, since I like the flow of her thoughts so far, but it's definitely was not a town-like post from her.Coelestin - I don't think she asks me to jump on the Lucian train like that as scum. Maybe I am wrong but with how hard I scum read her in our last game (shit was emotional) I don't think scum Coelestin comes at me in this manner. Also that apology for the lynch seems very genuine and attention grabbing in a way that mafia would want to avoid imo logic340 said: Yeah, I'm losing my that townvibe from Shin-chan too.Shinichi - I am just not getting that vibe that I have been getting the last few games. That very motivated to win as town vibe. I really need to look harder into him but even though I don't feel that motivation I can't make a good case for scumnichi either. logic340 said: The way you phrase it makes it seems like you don't actually believe it, but still wouldn't put that as scummy. Why?aa-dono - definitely looks to be scum hunting. D1 was a mix for her but the one think is the vote staying on Lucian. That cannot be attributed solely to scum so it's NAI. I am really liking her D2 so far but I need to see more as I feel biased because the majority of it revolves around soring me. logic340 said: +1Penta - I never know how to feel about Penta. I usually give him a really hard but I feel like I need to step back and slow down. His position on the train makes me wonder but it's not a solid tell. I'm kind of torn on this grapefruit case because it could be seen as scum trying to justify a vote but I don't see Penta making that move as scum? Except that I'm wavering because of his middle points on Grape. logic340 said: I would agree on Jack for now. I prefer to keep Jack in the neutral area so that I'll continuously reassess my reads on him.Jackrito - I stated it recently but I am feeling pretty comfortable here. I can follow his though process well. His vote on Lucian was well explained throughout D1 before the move. He's been consistent in my opinion and I can't say he seems fairly unaligned. #982 and #1169 seem particularly townie. in #1169 ce isn't closing off Ruu as an option and is suggesting we continue the search (something I like to do). 1. Did that with my case and vote didn't elicit much reaction when he came back online. Also I like real-time interactions which what is so hard to get with Lam. 2. Because I didn't feel this is scum Ruu (similar reasons as you). I am the type to stand firm in my convictions I have been scum read heavy for it now though which is why I question grapefruit's town read on me since he has been scum reading me hard for my convictions lately. 3. I agree with you I don't think it's her fault either. She asked me to vote with her but I did it for my own reasons not because she asked me to. There were 5 of us and her vote doesn't carry any more weight then any of the others. I honestly wonder why he didn't claim? If he wasn't going to vote Ruu out of self preservation he should of had a case to push on someone else? It's a collective mistake no one person can take the blame. 4. I'm keeping an eye on him I here he is a manipulator but I haven't really noticed that in his town game. I am just not settled with him yet though there is nothing really scummy to say at this point. 5. The reason I say looks is because I know I am biased due to you pushing on me the way you have. I tend to think people who suspect me are scum but with all the attention I have drawn lately that isn't the case anymore. I feel you are trying to sort me but it's me so I know there is bias there. 6. I have to wonder about that middle point as well. I am going to look over FT where Penta was scum and see if I can find a tel. 7. I have a town lean on him but will continue to reassess as well. He pocketed me hard in the one game I played with him as scum so I do need to stay on my toes. Just don't want to close the idea he is town because of my paranoia from another game. |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
| Oh I've been meaning to reply to this~ logic340 said: I don't pride myself being hard to read. I said it's my life goal :DI know you pride yourself on being hard to read but I hope to continue my streak of calling your alignment right. So the harder to read I am, the happier I'll be. But if it's easy for you to read me then... only two things I could say to that. 1. 2. |
|
| Neither @Lam-B nor @Ruu have been on since the 20th. I need to look over what @Qoco did while I was sleeping. @Karote if we mislynch again today will you complain about it again? I would love to see you question someone (even if it's me) and form some reads please. |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
aa-dono said: LMAO....Put the gun away....lol. Oh I've been meaning to reply to this~ logic340 said: I don't pride myself being hard to read. I said it's my life goal :DI know you pride yourself on being hard to read but I hope to continue my streak of calling your alignment right. So the harder to read I am, the happier I'll be. But if it's easy for you to read me then... only two things I could say to that. 1. 2. Well I am not 100% sure yet but I like the vibes I am getting. I am definitely not as sure as I was in Disgaea where I petitioned for them not to lynch you D1, but I am comfortable for the time being. |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
PentaFlare said: Don't answer my previous question since I just saw this.Second, FUD stands for Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. To fud is any combination of spreading lies, fearmongering, mudslinging, or paranoia that are shared with the goal of leading town astray with too much doubt. It is scummy because it makes cooperation among town much harder. It can take many forms, small or large. |
|
Jackrito said: @Karote just wondering do you plan to push on me or make a case at all or just sit with a vote doing nothing. You can't be annoyed on day one and then do this. Also what do you think of people voting you. I'm not annoyed. I was convinced of your defense but yeah, I probably should remove it and go for someone else. Err, there's nothing really to say about the people who voted for me. Qoco just called me out and I said hey back, that's pretty much it. Coelestine or something, asked for my read list and didn't reply yet so her vote is justified. |
 |
Qoco said: This was one of the point that Penta brought up about Grape. If you think that sort of question is taking advantage, then why is your vote on Karote and not Grape?Jackrito said: It has been a full day now and alot of people are still not voting or even posting, Ruu Quco and Rosie for example may as well not even be playing at this point. Also lamb is never on for weekends so won't see him for a while either. I can't read people who are not there, all this inactivity just creates a good scum environment since they are so many possible mislynches. It helps if people mention me with specific questions. I mean good questions, no dumb demands, or crappy, pretending-to-look-good-questions, like "what do you think of the game so far?" That's one thing that triggers me. When people try to take advantage of the situation that you're in, and they throw a vague ass question at you, to make you look bad, and in return, make them look good. |
|
logic340 said: @Qoco, @Ruu, @Karote, @Lam-B We kind of need your participation @Shinichi I'll get to #1303 when I'm back on pc. Honestly, I don't see anyone strongly scum or town, do you hold off voting for me because you know that I usually play like this? You keep making posts how scummy I am, lol. |
|
logic340 said: Neither @Lam-B nor @Ruu have been on since the 20th. I need to look over what @Qoco did while I was sleeping. @Karote if we mislynch again today will you complain about it again? I would love to see you question someone (even if it's me) and form some reads please. I won't complain because I'll be at the phase change. |
|
| Just finished catching up on 8 pages of content in another game I'm in, so I need a half hour break or so before I jump back into this one. |
Be like this seal. It is a happy seal. ~Review Guidelines~ | ~Recommendation Guidelines~ | ~Mafia Society~ |
Karote said: Yes this is how you always play so I have tempered my expectations a little bit. I would normally be all over you but I have been wrong so I am trying to take a bit of a different approach in hopes of achieving results this time around. I don't think a vote on you will get you to do anything so I'll just actively question you.logic340 said: @Qoco, @Ruu, @Karote, @Lam-B We kind of need your participation @Shinichi I'll get to #1303 when I'm back on pc. Honestly, I don't see anyone strongly scum or town, do you hold off voting for me because you know that I usually play like this? You keep making posts how scummy I am, lol. 1. What are your thoughts on the other inactive players? Qoco, Ruu, Rosie, and Lam-B? Do you think there could be scum hiding among them? 2. Others have questioned my reads how do you feel about them? 3. Why are you voting Jack if you feel there is no one you read as town or scum? 4. Thoughts on Grapefruit being the lead train? |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
Grapefruit21 said: @Karote what do you think of Pentas case on me? Who are you interested in lynching? What do you make of dono D1 vs D2? That's a big wall of text. Only thing I notice, Penta comes time to time drops some posts and goes, doesn't particulaly strikes me off as town nor scum, same for Chione. Though at least Penta votes for his suspect but Chione, dunno what she's doing. Trying get inactives active? Posted her reads, that surely gives her some townie points but it's useless if doesn't go with it. Says aa-dono is scummy but I don't find aa particulary scummy. |
|
Karote said: +1logic340 said: Neither @Lam-B nor @Ruu have been on since the 20th. I need to look over what @Qoco did while I was sleeping. @Karote if we mislynch again today will you complain about it again? I would love to see you question someone (even if it's me) and form some reads please. I won't complain because I'll be at the phase change. |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
| I don't think I get the same townvibe on logic, but I can't think of him as scum too. Moving on, @Shinichi-Kun, when you're fine and awake, could you tell us your current scumreads? You seem to put town tags more than scum. Also, in one of your previous post that I'm too lazy to dig, you said 90% of grrr's posts shows a town mindset. Could you break down those posts. and what of the 10% ? So well, until then I'll park my vote here: Vote: Shinichi-Kun I am going off now in hopes that I can wake up in time for phase change. Everyone's welcome to lynch Shin-chan even if I'm not around :D |
|
logic340 said: Karote said: Yes this is how you always play so I have tempered my expectations a little bit. I would normally be all over you but I have been wrong so I am trying to take a bit of a different approach in hopes of achieving results this time around. I don't think a vote on you will get you to do anything so I'll just actively question you.Honestly, I don't see anyone strongly scum or town, do you hold off voting for me because you know that I usually play like this? You keep making posts how scummy I am, lol. 1. What are your thoughts on the other inactive players? Qoco, Ruu, Rosie, and Lam-B? Do you think there could be scum hiding among them? 2. Others have questioned my reads how do you feel about them? 3. Why are you voting Jack if you feel there is no one you read as town or scum? 4. Thoughts on Grapefruit being the lead train? 1.) Starting with Qoco, well, I have played with him lots of times before. Leans scum to me, worries about Ruu being jester rather than catching scum. Ruu, no idea. She seems so obviously scummy I don't actually see her as scum. Stopped posting so makes it even harder to read her. Rosie ... uhh, I'll have to read her posts. Lamb - stopped posting as well for some reason, usually drops posts after everyone's gone or sleeping since has bad timezone. I know that he likes play around game mechanics, I believe him about claim he made. 2.) Don't have a whole lot reads myself, can't comment it. 3.) Huh? To see what he responds with, his defense cleared my suspicious with him but neither I read him as town though. 4.) I'm thinking about it. |
|
Oyasumi_Rosie said: logic340 said: what are your thoughts on Ruu's Miller claim? Penta and my cases on grapefruit? Karote's vote on Jackrito? Lucian's lynch train? Lam-B's vision and the issuing discussion? 1-Miller claims are always bad. This makes her look bad. Maybe for some that will enough to push them to vote, the fine. She hasn't done enough to prove either way. Basically what aa-dono is saying in #1201 2- They seem good? I guess. Penta's agrument was too wordy for me to follow, and he didn't seem to have concluding sentence that summed his major points up. Your's is shorter and to the point which makes it easier to questions. Why can't you agree with Grapefurit choice there? 3-More information on it than I thought @suzune-chan What happens when votes are tied? 4-I have been reading the thread pretty regularly, and I have no idea what you are talking about here Pretty general opinions here. Vote change: Rosie If you've been reading the thread regularly, does anyone seems suspicious or town-ish to you? What do you think of aa-dono vote on Shinichi? Does it seem justified? |
|
aa-dono said: I don't think I get the same townvibe on logic, but I can't think of him as scum too. Everyone's welcome to lynch Shin-chan even if I'm not around :D You can't think Shinichi as scum but we are welcome to lynch him either way? |
|
logic340 said: Penta - I never know how to feel about Penta. I usually give him a really hard but I feel like I need to step back and slow down. His position on the train makes me wonder but it's not a solid tell. I'm kind of torn on this grapefruit case because it could be seen as scum trying to justify a vote but I don't see Penta making that move as scum? It would have been just as easy for me to write a wall about someone else and switch my vote. The fact that it was on the same person doesn't make a difference. Treat them as two separate votes. Did you like my reasoning for the initial vote? Did you like my reasoning when I changed it to be voting a scumread? That's how you should approach it. |
Be like this seal. It is a happy seal. ~Review Guidelines~ | ~Recommendation Guidelines~ | ~Mafia Society~ |
| @Jackrito #1309 So the general idea is that you think I'm being a little harsh with some of these points. I can sort of understand that. Individually, I wouldn't give a scumread for most of these things because they all have a possible, although usually less likely, town motivation. My problem is that grape has done them all. Too much evidence for it all to be a coincidence. Regarding the tonal shift, the red flag for me was grape talking about how everything else was fluffy. There had been enough in the thread to that point to justify reads on others, but grape seemed to be actively ignoring other players in favour of tunneling grrr, but not seeming super confident about it in that one moment. It felt unconsciously defensive. If you think that the exaggerated townread is something they would do I can respect that. I don't have an extensive meta on grape. It is something that still seems quite scummy to me, but I'll treat it more as a reason to give their reads extra scrutiny and less as a solid tell. |
Be like this seal. It is a happy seal. ~Review Guidelines~ | ~Recommendation Guidelines~ | ~Mafia Society~ |
Grapefruit21 said: @PentaFlare I've thought a lot more about you saying grrr's claim checks out and I'm still stumped. As far as I can tell Jack is the only person who understood what you were getting at. I'm not going to push it right now because enough people have said it's not a conflict anyway, but I'm watching you for that one. As for your post. On my tone shift, 496 was purely about people giving away free information. That was exasperation at SHinichi more than at grrr. Giving away free information is a losing proposition. Apart from that I think my tone is more in line with 196 in general. As for Hyperbolic reads have you read my recent games? Lover's Quarrel, Twins, Alcatraz, and Kitty all have similar reads. Especially LQ and Alc. And my extreme familiarity with logic based on Alc and Kitty gives me a lot of confidence in reading him right now. I don't know what fudding is. And as for my lack of scum hunting I'm not the only person who had trouble easing in D1. I'd say my play toDay speaks for itself. I'm not going to go out of my way to read games I haven't been part of for the sake of collecting meta because I don't like using meta. I focus on behavioural tells and only allow meta to help figure out a motive if something could come from either alignment. Hyperbolic reads are things that stand out a lot to me. I'll be watching your future cases closely. |
Be like this seal. It is a happy seal. ~Review Guidelines~ | ~Recommendation Guidelines~ | ~Mafia Society~ |
aa-dono said: PentaFlare said: When making points about tone or behaviour changes, isn't it better to see it chronologically?First is a tonal scumtell in regards to grape's view of grrr. For most of the phase, grape is very focused on the idea of scum!grrr and is very confident in their scumread. In fact, in posts like #496, grape is treating grrr like you would treat confirmed scum. However, in #212, there is a sudden shift of tone that only lasts for this post (and one extra sentence in #194, but #212 highlights it better). Grape is saying that this one thing they have been going at grrr's throat all phase for is a "low impact offense" but is scummy only because everything else is mostly fluff. This tonal change is really scummy, because it shows that grape doesn't actually have a strong scumread on grrr, but are trying really hard to make grrr appear scummy. A town member would have a consistent tone towards a person, either really strong or more moderate, but grape doesn't. A read can change, but it would do so in a directed manner, whereas grape didn't start to back off after this softer post, just went back to going hard at grrr. It's a slip of grape's actual knowledge that the case on grrr is fake. I think #212 makes sense if he voted for grrr for "low impact offense". Typically, fishing for roles is just bad, so for an early vote this makes sense. It would frustrate anyone if their scumread are being let off simply because that's how he plays. Despite not making sense of grrr role question or some even finds it ridiculous, they still replied anyway, so that doesn't really make #496 odd especially since it was directed to Shinichi who expressed that grrr was being (can't remember what word he used - ridiculous/weird??) but answered the role thing regardless. If anything, I'd say Shinichi's behaviour is inconsistent. Grape was also showing a strong tone before that post, not just after. It didn't start weak then grow strong, it was just that one post that felt out of place. Both you and Jack seem to think I'm being too harsh with this though, so I'll look back on this a little later and see if I still feel the same. |
Be like this seal. It is a happy seal. ~Review Guidelines~ | ~Recommendation Guidelines~ | ~Mafia Society~ |
logic340 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: 1-Miller claims are always bad. This makes her look bad. Maybe for some that will enough to push them to vote, the fine. She hasn't done enough to prove either way. Basically what aa-dono is saying in #1201 2- They seem good? I guess. Penta's agrument was too wordy for me to follow, and he didn't seem to have concluding sentence that summed his major points up. Your's is shorter and to the point which makes it easier to questions. Why can't you agree with Grapefurit choice there? 3-More information on it than I thought @suzune-chan What happens when votes are tied? 4-I have been reading the thread pretty regularly, and I have no idea what you are talking about here These are all questions you could have answered yourself I didn't need to ask them. 1. So should we lynch her for claiming and her behavior or do you think she might be town? 2. You say they seem good, does that mean you agree with them? 3. I asked how you felt about Karote's vote on Jack and the Lucian train. Where did this question for Suzune come from? 4. Lam-B claimed that they have and Ascetic Modifier on their ability. Penta Jack and I had a conversation about it shortly after 1-Sorry I thought I made it clear how I felt about how I feel by lynching her by saying "She hasn't done enough to prove either way." For me its not, but I also understand that most don't trust Ruu based on the fact that she is Ruu. At this time, I am sue we can find bigger and better fish to fry. 2-They seem like you put a lot of thought into them, like they are well written, but like I said, I couldn't understand Penta's because it was too long. I don't know if you put this some where else, but why don't you like Grapefruit's reasoning? 3- Considering tghe second thing you quoted and what I asked, you think you can put it together :3c In general, Karote, post short things that mean very little. Also I didn't say this before, but I am honestly surprised that Roy got lynched. Like I am one to talk, but he seems like one of those annoying players that people like to keep around. Scum is def on his train 4-Then you didn't read what I talked about I had already said during the night phase about that with Jack and Shinichi? Even after I @'d you when I was talking about it?? Be cause I already made my thoughts pretty clear about this already. Here are post where I talk about it more: #1019 and #1024 If you want my thoughts specifically on what you and Penta specially talked about, give me a second on that. I am probably gonna need to chill out after righting this post, but I have the train ride home to read and reply. This is why I got so mad. To me, it feels like you and grapefruit, and everyone who say I have just be posting fluff only read the stuff that is convenient to you. I have been trying hard to post more serious, game solving thoughts, and you just toss it aside. I don't mind being consider nothing more that a joke to you guys, but if you are going to complain that I'm not trying to solve the game, maybe because I know you don't take me seriously. (I am gonna regret posting this aren't I) logic340 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: What makes you think this?Then we already know the double voter was on CP's trains last phase. #1332 I have been fucking up a lot.... |
 |
Oyasumi_Rosie said: logic340 said: These are all questions you could have answered yourself I didn't need to ask them. 1. So should we lynch her for claiming and her behavior or do you think she might be town? 2. You say they seem good, does that mean you agree with them? 3. I asked how you felt about Karote's vote on Jack and the Lucian train. Where did this question for Suzune come from? 4. Lam-B claimed that they have and Ascetic Modifier on their ability. Penta Jack and I had a conversation about it shortly after 1-Sorry I thought I made it clear how I felt about how I feel by lynching her by saying "She hasn't done enough to prove either way." For me its not, but I also understand that most don't trust Ruu based on the fact that she is Ruu. At this time, I am sue we can find bigger and better fish to fry. 2-They seem like you put a lot of thought into them, like they are well written, but like I said, I couldn't understand Penta's because it was too long. I don't know if you put this some where else, but why don't you like Grapefruit's reasoning? 3- Considering tghe second thing you quoted and what I asked, you think you can put it together :3c In general, Karote, post short things that mean very little. Also I didn't say this before, but I am honestly surprised that Roy got lynched. Like I am one to talk, but he seems like one of those annoying players that people like to keep around. Scum is def on his train 4-Then you didn't read what I talked about I had already said during the night phase about that with Jack and Shinichi? Even after I @'d you when I was talking about it?? Be cause I already made my thoughts pretty clear about this already. Here are post where I talk about it more: #1019 and #1024 If you want my thoughts specifically on what you and Penta specially talked about, give me a second on that. I am probably gonna need to chill out after righting this post, but I have the train ride home to read and reply. This is why I got so mad. To me, it feels like you and grapefruit, and everyone who say I have just be posting fluff only read the stuff that is convenient to you. I have been trying hard to post more serious, game solving thoughts, and you just toss it aside. I don't mind being consider nothing more that a joke to you guys, but if you are going to complain that I'm not trying to solve the game, maybe because I know you don't take me seriously. (I am gonna regret posting this aren't I) #1332 I have been fucking up a lot.... 1. So you are neutral on Ruu but would you lynch her at the end of the day? We are trying to find bigger and better fish to fry. 2. I don't think Penta's is too long to read. I wanted to know if you agreed with the conclusions we came to or not? 3. So if scum are on his train then who do you think that might be? Karote I find hard to read because he limits what he puts into the thread. 4. Well you said you had nothing to talk about so I fired off the first things that came to my head. You said those things during the night phase it's been almost 48 hours since you posted those have your thoughts changed any in that time or are they exactly the same. You know me Rosie you know I read the thread multiple time. Shit I did two ISO's during the night phase. I've read the thread at least 3 times. I am sorry I cannot remember everything and maybe you should be the next one I ISO since you feel I have missed a lot of your thoughts this game. #1332 ah I see I almost made that same mistake but the VC looked off since Penta wasn't on Lucian. So you thought someone had Double vote since Lucian died instead of Ruu. Why did you think Double Voter rather than about a vote stealer? |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
PentaFlare said: Well I kind of did that and even came to the conclusion that as scum you probably don't do this. So you are saying to look at the case as a separate vote and not a reason to justify your vote?logic340 said: Penta - I never know how to feel about Penta. I usually give him a really hard but I feel like I need to step back and slow down. His position on the train makes me wonder but it's not a solid tell. I'm kind of torn on this grapefruit case because it could be seen as scum trying to justify a vote but I don't see Penta making that move as scum? It would have been just as easy for me to write a wall about someone else and switch my vote. The fact that it was on the same person doesn't make a difference. Treat them as two separate votes. Did you like my reasoning for the initial vote? Did you like my reasoning when I changed it to be voting a scumread? That's how you should approach it. There was no reasoning for the initial vote so no I can't say I did or didn't like it. I do like the reasoning your borough up in your case as it's pretty much in line how I felt throughout D1 and up to now. He's been hard for me to read of late so I need to look things over and consider the possibilities. |
| Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
| ill start catchig up now i woke up with a massive headache earlier |
  |
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Jackrito said: Sorry I just noticed this.Because he said nurse, inheritor sounded like it would of took any role nurse can only take Doc This is flawed. He would still be the nurse even if CP was the doctor and died. This only proves that there is a doctor in play. If you believe Grrrs claim of course I do believe his claim is feels more like his miller claim in prison mafia |
|
PentaFlare said: I've caught up but I'm not going to respond to anything until I have had a good nights sleep. I have two things I want to mention though. First, I keep noticing people bringing up my position in Lucian's train with varying perspective. In my opinion, voting to break a tie is NAI. It is just objectively the right choice to avoid a no lynch, so my mindset doesn't matter when deciding to make what is objectively the right choice. Don't overthink it. Second, FUD stands for Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. To fud is any combination of spreading lies, fearmongering, mudslinging, or paranoia that are shared with the goal of leading town astray with too much doubt. It is scummy because it makes cooperation among town much harder. It can take many forms, small or large. Not true actually under norma circumstances i think a scum would want a tie, but cuppled with your vote on ruu to the very end and only chaning votes to prevent a tie seems more town aligned than null. Who do u think is using FUD? thats the first time ive ever seen or heard tham term being used before haha |
|
Oyasumi_Rosie said: logic340 said: what are your thoughts on Ruu's Miller claim? Penta and my cases on grapefruit? Karote's vote on Jackrito? Lucian's lynch train? Lam-B's vision and the issuing discussion? 1-Miller claims are always bad. This makes her look bad. Maybe for some that will enough to push them to vote, the fine. She hasn't done enough to prove either way. Any situation outside of claiming day 1 they are bad, a day 1 claim is prob the cleaniest and more town like way of going about presenting the role to the rest of the town. If u wait ur hiding something unless miller isnt ur only ability then i acn see u hiding it. |
|
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Then we already know the double voter was on CP's trains last phase. hmm how so explain unless u already did and ill find the post soon enough |
|
Qoco said: Qoco said: It helps if people mention me with specific questions. I mean good questions, no dumb demands, or crappy, pretending-to-look-good-questions, like "what do you think of the game so far?" That's one thing that triggers me. When people try to take advantage of the situation that you're in, and they throw a vague ass question at you, to make you look bad, and in return, make them look good. Not saying that others should play the game for me either. Just saiyan that if you want information so badly, there's a way to communicate >:D Ive always wanted to point that out too but i felt like i would jsut get instantly scum read lool |
|
Jackrito said: Qoco said: It helps if people mention me with specific questions. I mean good questions, no dumb demands, or crappy, pretending-to-look-good-questions, like "what do you think of the game so far?" That's one thing that triggers me. When people try to take advantage of the situation that you're in, and they throw a vague ass question at you, to make you look bad, and in return, make them look good. People should not have to ask you questions to make a person active, if you want to be lynched by all means carry on but I assume you want to win. How is that question vague or bad it can be answered however the person wants it is a open question to start discussion. To say it is designed to make you look bad is so paranoid. I also agree here but im pretty sure panda is just saying he thinks thsoe bland questions are easy to hide behind, he will always post onces hes home, hes jusy saying he rather come home to unique questions. |
|
More topics from this board
» [GAME] Give something to the user above you ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Soren - Oct 9, 2015 |
1395 |
by Serafos
»»
Yesterday, 9:10 PM |
|
» [GAME] Last Letter Game ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )grave_robber - Sep 9, 2014 |
8755 |
by Serafos
»»
Dec 11, 7:29 PM |
|
» [GAME] (*￣･￣)ﾉ Count to 30 Before a Slightly Inebriated MEMBER Posts! v1 ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )SoulEaterQUEEN - Mar 26, 2016 |
1996 |
by Serafos
»»
Dec 7, 10:20 PM |
|
» [GAME] (*￣･￣)ﾉ Count to 30 Before a Slightly Inebriated Staff Member Posts! v4 ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Togs - Jul 2, 2017 |
2877 |
by Serafos
»»
Dec 7, 10:20 PM |
|
» Count To 7777 V3 ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Lambtron - May 15, 2018 |
1170 |
by Serafos
»»
Dec 7, 10:20 PM |