Sollux16 said: So u have read it but skimmed through it.. And what about the second part about my questions?amberwillow said: @Sollux16 since u are here, I wanna ask if u have caught up with thread and what do you think about Grape and Followind? Are there any other people u find susp who look susp besides grr and Claire? Was there anything that caught your eye while u were reading the thread? I've read most of the thread, skimmed other parts. With followind, I don't have a scum read on them. Same with Grape. Haven't really seen much from followind and grape is probably one of my largest town leans... even though none of my "town leans" are really town leans, they're mostly neutral |
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amberwillow said: Yeah I usually don't think too much about roles and just go with behavior but being mafia has open my mind to the different possibly. The fact remains I saw through this lie while I was being told to treat her like a town PR.logic340 said: I doubt that there would be a vengeful in a basic mafia o.Othat's only the case of Claire isn't a vengeful which is much worse for us. Please don't ignore that possibility. Also what has Claire fine to have earner trust here? |
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logic340 said: Yeah, she lied about being a PR, but what if she didn't lie about being VT?amberwillow said: Yeah I usually don't think too much about roles and just go with behavior but being mafia has open my mind to the different possibly. The fact remains I saw through this lie while I was being told to treat her like a town PR.I doubt that there would be a vengeful in a basic mafia o.O What do you think about what RE said in her last post? |
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Sollux16 said: So everyone is neutral to you except for grr and Grape?amberwillow said: So u have read it but skimmed through it.. And what about the second part about my questions? Oh, sorry. Forgot to add in that part. No one else is so susp to the point where I'd be willing to vote for them at the moment. My scum leans right now are Claire (but I want to let Claire's replacement have a chance), Grrr, and not really Penta anymore. My biggest issue with Penta was they weren't giving info, but now that they have, I don't have a scum read on them anymore |
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amberwillow said: You should know I agree whole heartedly with RE's last post. It's been a big part of my argument post #'s 118-120 do not sit well with me because they are talking about previous games (which is what I did as scum). They have nothing to do with this game and letting the previous game carry over to this one I believe was a way to hide the fact she was scum. logic340 said: Yeah, she lied about being a PR, but what if she didn't lie about being VT?Yeah I usually don't think too much about roles and just go with behavior but being mafia has open my mind to the different possibly. The fact remains I saw through this lie while I was being told to treat her like a town PR. What do you think about what RE said in her last post? If she is Vanilla Town then she still deserves the lynch for lying and causing confusion when she is talking shit about town needing to get it together. If she is vanilla then she gave the mafia a great way to hid and look surprised. You know how I know this? Because I just got out of a game where she did the exact same thing. Lied about a PR to catch someone she thought was scum all it did was lead to her lynch and clearing a mafia. So if she is Vanilla I have too think Penta could be town or mafia since Claire BS'd us....I'm still pissed as I saw right through that shit and she basically begged me to take her side. I feel like if Claire really felt that Penta was scum she should have tried to prove it with behavior not trying to make someone slip. Town needs to stop lying about bullshit! All it does is get you a rope around your neck |
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amberwillow said: Honestly from my past experience with Sollux (being a very new player) this type of read from him is not a surprise. Would like to see a little more effort as I am not seeing the inquisitive Sollux I am used to but this isn't enough for me to say scum after what happened to Rosie yesterday.Sollux16 said: So everyone is neutral to you except for grr and Grape?Oh, sorry. Forgot to add in that part. No one else is so susp to the point where I'd be willing to vote for them at the moment. My scum leans right now are Claire (but I want to let Claire's replacement have a chance), Grrr, and not really Penta anymore. My biggest issue with Penta was they weren't giving info, but now that they have, I don't have a scum read on them anymore |
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| Thank you for your patience. With Claire being replace I will put her ISO on the back burner for now. CP Interactions by User: CP>logic340 #198 - Says I have been quiet wants to know where I am with my theories and such. Asks why I am not contributing anything substantial. #200 - I admit that my early d1 sucks put out a small list of how I feel about a handful of players. #343 - CorruptedPurity - I intercept question all the time so that part of it is NAI (especially when you read the lead up to it), is he trying too hard? maybe but that could be from actually rolling town for the first time in a long while. Would he make himself such a target so early as mafia? Possibly. After playing with me as mafia knowing I'm in this game? I would hope not. Needless to say I am not sure which way to go on CP right now, I am sure as time progresses if he is scum will pick up on the little markers. Neutral for now #385 - Reminds me that Claire and I have not seen his town game in response to my vote on Claire and question about CP's meta. #389 - Likes the point I brought up about Grape not following up on his warning. The less active are more active but Grapefruit didn't follow through #391 - I am glad that Purity picked up on my question to Claire. Tell him I asked Claire how we distinguish between the two if they are similar, and ask a rherotical question. #393 - I barn his post about suspecting RE and add my reasons #394 - I tell Purity that the ISO doesn't excuse Grapes lack of follow up. He never said he would make exceptions so why is Penta the exception? I feel follow through is important. #399 - Small read list Lam, me, grape, Claire, and Penta #401 - Says he wont tell me the differences between his town and scum game. Tells me to take this game as the basis for his town meta. tells me to come back to this post after he is NK'd and establish my town CP meta #402 - Basically me saying my question was rhetorical. #404 - In response to me saying I could see him as town here due to his early excitement he says I have no idea...explains the thrills of playing as each side, very excited on the town side. #407 - Asks me if his entrance here was really similar to Alcatraz? Gives examples of what he feels is different. #410 - I tell Purity I noted two instances to Claire in our discussion of Purity. I said I doubt that Purity would be crazy enough to exhibit the same scum markers I just saw in another game as his teammate. #417 - From being scum together he knows I keep crazy hours tells me I need to get more rest. #499 - Me telling, Claire, Grape, and Penta that CP case is not indicative of scum. The fact that 2 of the 3 on the train want death by salt makes me uncomfortable. I explain to Grape why he couldn't lynch me in Alcatraz and ask if he thinks both Purity and I rolled scum again since we are their best scum reads. #501 - Thanks me for standing up for him but if it's destined he cannot avoid a salty death. He will do his best to fight of the mslynch, Speaks about everyone on his train (Penta, Claire, Grape). #507 - I tell Purity I noticed the spite and resentment since I entered the thread. I would have spoken up sooner but the other game was still ongoing, So much salt that I refuse to let CP die, a reasonable lynch fine but not a salty one. #606 - Me trying to talk CP off of lynch fodder grrr train (at this point this grrr train is either saving Claire or Grapefruit imo) Thoughts: Town-Town interactions. I tried to talk Grapefruit, Penta, and Claire off this train to no avail. CP was scum from the very beginning to Claire and close enough to it for Grapefruit that I cannot say their opinion was objective. Penta looks bad too but not as bad as the two who tried to salt lynch CP. CP>Claire #119 - Tells Purity Town needs to step up. Only town win she has seen was FFXV and town doesn't deserve credit for that win. #120 - Says CP is looking like recent games and Claire will not allow him to see D2 if she sense anything scummy from him. #125 - Reiterates to Claire that he is not disagreeing with what Grape said just that it isn't very "Grape-like" #364 - Claire votes CP for tunneling Grapefruit, other have said the post she quoted doesn't feel like a tunnel though. #365 - Claire is even more convinced about her vote due to #216, says she may be paranoid but she doubts it. #367 - Claire tells Willow CP looks awfully scummish #383 - CP quotes 2 posts from Claire which seem to contradict one another. Wants to lynch CP but not for anything scummy, then says that CP's posts scream scum enough for Claire. CP asks Claire if this is tradition going after him every game. #384 - Claire says that tradition needs to be passed down in response to #383 #415 - Tells Claire since Claire has her mind made up it's no use talking to her. #441 - Claire agrees tells CP don't waste his time. #579 - Asks CP his thoughts on grrr #604 - Tells Claire he is expecting to wake up to a Grapefruit or CP lynch #607 - Tells Purity he is trying to save himself by voting grrr, wants to see my response to Purity's vote (guess she missed it) #609 -Purity tells Claire that Grape is now in the lead 3grape/2cp/2grrr #612 - Claire tells CP that grrr is leading now #613 - I tell CP his vote on grrr put grrr in the lead #616 - No more regrets Claire is voting CP #617 - CP shows Claire how moving his vote to grrr didn't save his ass since sticking with grape makes it a 3-way tie #618-#619 - Memeing between Claire and CP Thoughts: Nearly making CP eat a salty lynch. I know Claire can be stubborn but this was on a whole other level. She would not listen to reason yesterday and her early game should have been called out by Grape for falling into his warning range. She relentlessly attacks CP for no reason and as pointed out she postured for her position in #120. The fake claim today just makes things even worse given her view on Town needing to "Step Up" all she did was hurt us if she is town. This is like Alcatraz all over again....with the fake claimingPR while only being a VT (??) which I still don't believe. The worst part here to me is the fact that they have the same inside information I do and still went completely against it while I asked her to reconsider. CP>Grapefruit #46 - Asks Grapefruit why so feisty? #59 - Grapefruit tells Purity "we will never see eye to eye will we" Town lean on Sollux #60 - Tells Grape not to make it sound that way, saying they are organs in the same body. #61 - Says he believes #60 as he is town reading CP at this point. Wants to go back to wagoning me but that is rash and silly #112 - Questions Grapefruit about his vote on RE, says he'll ignore it for now 12345 for reference post. #142 - Feels that Purity is misrepresenting him now he is scum reading Purity also doesn't like that CP answered a question for Crossbell (we have been through this before this is not a scum tell) #143 - Asks grapefruit to answer Penta's hypothetical as if it was CP's, tells Grape a post like his intro post gives him influence among the town, asks Grapefruit to show why he is wrong about the Grape meta. #146 - Apologies to Grape about ongoing game talk #147 - Grape strongly disagrees with CP and even says that Purity's idea about 4th seat on train is damaging to town. (Purity was saying look into grrr not discouraging the vote) who is misrepresenting who in the thread? #150 - Explains to Grapefruit why he doesn't like the jump to RE (random trains making VCA difficult). Says Grape is always town makes scum reading him hard due to him knowing how to play as town. Not currently scum reading Grapefruit. #154 - Grapefruti says Purity is trying to get the idea of lynching him out there (this was obviously not true), still says the meta read is off (I don't think it is), Grapefruti wants evidence for the grrr questioning. #155 - CP doesn't have evidence from this site about the blank vote on a RVS train, explains how he see's Grape's vote on RE's train from lazy town or hiding mafia, says grrr could have made a dog person comment but no comment and being 4th on the lead train look suspect #161 - Tells Grapefruti he didn't see that it was Day Cop and never heard of that before #168 - Tells Grape the idea of lynching his isn't new since he was 2nd in vote count, explains again he didn't know what Day Cop was, states he doesn't like meta but Grape is off (I agree0, thinks the eye to eye post is ringing true #170 - In response to Grape saying it was a hypothetical CP quotes where Penta said "But I am a day cop" #206 - Votes CP, wants people opinions on CP, preps himself for his CP case to come later. #216 - CP calls out Grapefruit for an OMGUS vote, says he's not a meta player btu is making an exception with Grape due to it being too different, tells Grape it's not about what he said but how he said it. #290 - Continues on about CP ignoring his own self meta (I do not agree with his self meta), furthers his point that CP is scum looking for a Grapefruit lynch (actually it's been the other way around). Tells CP if he wont verify ask (I answered and sided with CP on the Grape meta, so did cross iirc) #457 - Part 1 of Grape's case against Purity #494 - Purity's Death By Salt Post, Rebukes Grapefruit's case against him #467 - Tells Grapefruit that even Penta admitted to being anti-town while avoiding Grapes warning. #498 - Part 2 of Grape's case against Purity #500 - I call this the Uh-Huh post from Grapefruit #504 - Still asking Purity to check other games for his meta. #506 - Purity calls Grape out for posting things out of context isn't like him, I noticed it too and made a post about it in #503 #510 - Grape explains to CP why Penta got a pass on his warning, explains the day cop stuff again, #534 - Purity tell's Grapefruit to stop overthinking things. Tells grape the majority of this game has been dedicated to sorting him or answering his questions, and asks Grape if it's CP's fault that Grape scum reads Rosie and follow? #538 - CP is tired of it and votes Grapefruit. #614 - CP didn't want to vote Grape but he forced CP's hand. #658 - Penta lays out why they aren't looking at other for CP (at the time this sounded townie but now I feel like this is a crock of shit). #679 - Grapefruit reposts his case against CP #680 - Same as #679 Thoughts: Nearly making CP eat a salty lynch. If this isn't scum Grapefruit then something needs to change and quickly. He discredited CP for pretty much the entrie phase, ignored others calls to reevaluate his stance, and campaigning this lynch to the points of moving his case to a more recent page. He set himself up in similar fashion as Claire to be trained on CP from early game, OMGUS voted CP based on CP's early game comments (??), and refused to listen to me about scum CP (who I just finished playing as scum with). The worst part here to me is the fact that someone with inside information was not even listened to a little bit. CP>PentaFlare #117 - Answers Penta's hypothetical question for Crossbell #139 - Penta tells Purity that is a lot of people for an ability that can only check 1 #140 - Purity hopes this isn't a claim and steps into the world of hypotheticals. #141 - Asks for Pents's reads specifically Grape and RE #157 - Penta tells Purity he is a day cop for the hypothetical situation. #158 - Penta says he wont answer Purity's question for reads right now. #161 -Tells Penta he doesn't think Penta should have claimed, wants to know about the role so he can give a proper answer to the question. #174 - Tells Purity say he gets immediate results #177 - Tells Penta check grape now. #198 - Asks Penta if he is going to retract his claim and what he got from it. #212 - Tells CP the question of what he gained is moor since Crossbell hasn't answered yet. #226 - Penta explains his goal wasn't to have everyone answer #230 - Points out that Penta is being anti-town by not answering people's questions. CP feels we provided Penta with a lot of information and he should provide some in return. #234 - Penta says he is going to sit back keep quiet otherwise it ruins the point of what he is doing. #299 - Penta's case for scum!Purity #300 - Votes Purity after scum!read #316 - CP is happy that Penta has finally given something to work off of. Explains himself in regards to the points that Penta made in #299 #435 - This is from Penta to purity pretty much reads as Penta discrediting Purity. #436 - Says there are times when explaining what he is doing might ruin things. #496 - Response from CP to Penta's 435 #539 - Says CP was attacking Grape (nah it was the other way around), defends his earlier anti-town behavior as a gambit to read grapefruit, says he isn't acting anti-town right now (I don't care if it was now or an hour ago you don't just lose your anti town tag because you change up. Anti-town is anti-town and that is how you started) #551 - CP tells Penta he feels it's a matter of perspective, also says that Penta has been pro-town since the ISO but was anti-town prior to it, brings up Grape's relentless assault. Thoughts: I was feeling really good here during and after the whole Claire thing but now after reading back I am not so sure. Penta is the first one to put a case out against CP. I was not a fan of how he wouldn't answer questions early, I am less of a fan of how he handled Grapefruit after Grape left him alone though he defied Grape's warning. CP>amberwillow #187 - Asks willow what made RE seem defensive? He can see a world where she is just careless town not scum who slipped #211 - willow says they believe B from Purity's #155 only works if the train isn't the main train at the EoP. Says if other trains flip town then it's a bad place to hide as scum. #222 - Isn't sure if Penta claimed #333 - CP defends Rosie being on mobile compared to Computer against willow. #335 - willow says she remembers switching being uncomfortable, but says that it shouldn't hinder Rodie from posting (here is more of that Nitpicking shit I noticed with willow not seeing the town intent here). #622 - willow wants to know what CP found out about her since she didn't show much reaction to the whole "day cop" thing. #720 - willow votes CP (after struggling with CP or grape) #724 - willow tells Grape it's between him or CP, interested in what Cross brings if it is about Claire willow may reconsider (would have been nice if she would have considered everything I said about Claire) Thoughts: Not a whole lot of alignment indicative posts between these two. The one think I noticed is willow nitpicking Rosie again but that's really about it. Wondering if this is playstyle or mafia looking for mislynches? CP>Crossbell #71 - Asks CP why he doesn't participate in RVS, what he thinks Grapes unusual Feistiness means for Grape's alignment, and ssks for support of his Grapefruit meta. #110 - Tells Crossbell why he doesn't do RVS, explains his two games with Grapefruit and why his entrance feels off. Looking forward to playing with Crossbell. #217 - CP wishes Cross was here like an hour ago #237 - Asks CP why he isn't poking people, disagrees with CP's policy on voting, see where CP is coming from with the grape meta, and doesn't see CP and grape as aligned. #241 - agrees with CP about Grapefruit moving off me and onto RE messing up RVS VCA #636 - Feels CP is getting over-defensive on page 7 #668 - This post from CP does feel genuine to Cross #670 - This post from CP doesn't feel genuine to Cross (they were both genuine). #727 - Crossbell has CP as town/village Thoughts: Crossbell agrees with CP on a couple things. Notable Grapefruit's vote move yet town reads Grape and CP. Not syaign that one is town one is scum but CP and I made it clear this is not the Grape we are used to playing with, so why does Cross see it differently? Can't be sure if cross was playing the fence here or just not certain. CP>Sollux16 #49 - Asks Sollux his thoughts on Grapefruit21 and on my train. #50 - Sollux says that what Grape said sounds reasonable given the activity in the games he's been in. Says my train looks like people at ready for me to roll scum. #51 - Tells Sollux that this entrance isn't like Grape and that Dog people (logic) are frowned up on here. #53 - Asks Sollux if they have played together before #54 - Sollux says that the Grape comment might be true he isn't sure, and doesn't get the dog people comment (it was acutally cause I was scum in the previous game) #55 - Sollux reminds CP they played in Twins #56 - CP bring us the fact to Sollux that I said I am a dog person in the thread. #58 - Sollux misinterprets #56 and says we will watch the dog lovers Thoughts: This is CP trying to figure out Sollux CP>folowind #148 - Feels the same way CP does about Penta's question, asks Grapefruit what part of Penta's question CP didn't answer, and says he is siding with CP for now. #163 -Tells Purity that it depends on the mod #171 - CP tells followind that if we get result right away to check Grapefruit. EoD he will wait to share incase grape gets the lynch. #173 - CP wants to talk with me and follow since we are online #175 - Tells Purity we can lynch the second most suspicious and check grapefruit later #181 - CP thanks him for answering and asks who he thinks the 2nd most suspicious is? CP will share his at a later time. #183 - follow says CP, RE, or grrr in response to #181 #189 - CP tells follow he believes Peta fake claimed to get attention. #190 - CP agrees with follow's fist two targets and elaborates on why. Asks why follow picked grrr and inactive slot give percentages on why he would likely hit town if we check grrr. #201 - fololow explains why grrr, saying if he is mafia he can just lurk which is pretty much grrr's playstyle. Says he is meta reading him. #213 - Lays out various scenarios for follow in response to #201 #225 - He wasn't saying check grrr now he prioritzes CP, Grape, and RE over grrr. grrr should be a last resort. #512 - Agree's with follow's post to Grape about using meta to secure a lynch Thoughts: I follow along well with follow until he jumps from CP side to Claire's side and votes grrr. Maybe he was trying to buddy with CP IDK, I find these interactions hard to follow. CP>RE1031 #138 - Response to RE about Grapefruit starting another train. Says at least we now have information we can make sense of. #214 -Re asks CP what slip up he is talking about. #217 CP tells RE she never said why she finds Crossbell suspicious. #221 - Tells RE that she may want to push Penta since he wouldn't answer CP's questions. Response to #220 #223 - RE gave more of an explanation of her vote rather than trying to justify their vote #317 - Tells RE he had been in 4 straight scum games before this one. Can't help how hyper he is (because he is town). #319 - RE says RNG has failed her many times #322 - Asks RE if Grape really strikes nothing? Brings up Penta and the Warning Grapefruit issued. #323 - Her meta on Grape is pretty much the same (I beg to differ), Penta threw here off (for a long time), is a little weary of Crossbell's lack of reaction to Penta #325 - CP says Cross did answer the questions #326 - RE tells CP that the way Crossbell super causally answered raises eyebrows. Crossbell is questionable to RE #328 - CP says that Crossbell gave a standard answer, says if Penta had anything to tell us about cross he might tell us by day 7 (this is a joke) #329 - RE says the easiest way is to ask them tags Penta and Cross in a question #387 - CP tells RE he wouldn't be suspicious of her if she didn't get defensive while being questioned by willow the dog lover stuff was rvs fluff. Thoughts: Like I have said RE is an interesting player but nothing from these interactions makes me see RE as scum CP>grrr #113 - Questions grrr about not saying anything when he voted me (4th on train). #430 - grrr tells Grapefruit never mind he wont vote CP because CP is 12345 guy #439 - grr says to leave our good town friend CP alone #440 - in regards to Penta's CP ISO, he says Penta is right but sadly CP is town, asks Penta to vote elsewhere. #604 - Lays out his case against grrr and votes grrrr Thoughts: This one confuses the shit out of me. Is he really just a town read as grrr says? Or is this scum "white knighting"? I think I believe the former but cannot overlook the latter need more information. CP>Lam-B #78 - Lam-B says "Voting intentionally is a pretty cool guy doe." #353 - Seems to agree with CP's stance on the grrr vote on me. #381 - Lam tells CP that it all depends on where the person is coming from so his take may not be 100% accurate. #421 - Lam says he doesn't like the inactive tag that gets slapped on him for being in a different time zone. Says he misses out on interactions with others and phase change. #422 - Lam says he has had some bad D1's but those boil down to when the game started. Thoughts: Nothing much to talk about here. Lam seems to be neutral or a slight town lean. |
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logic340 said: I know right.. Followind and Sollux has wayyyyyy too little presence in thread. And the skimming thing doesn't help, it doesn't help us to get to understand them and I feel like it would be a very comfortable place for scum to hide :|amberwillow said: Honestly from my past experience with Sollux (being a very new player) this type of read from him is not a surprise. Would like to see a little more effort as I am not seeing the inquisitive Sollux I am used to but this isn't enough for me to say scum after what happened to Rosie yesterday.So everyone is neutral to you except for grr and Grape? |
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🐭 Vote Count 2.3 🐭 _Claire_ (2) PentaFlare, Logic340 PentaFlare (1) _Claire_ Logic340 (1) Grrr Grrr (1) Sollux16 Not Voting Crossbell, RE1031, Lam-B, amberwillow, followind, Grapefruit21 🐭 Vote History 🐭 Mod notes: Thank mew for your patience 🕒 Countdown to Night 2 🕒 |
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amberwillow said: While I do agree to an extent I have to watch how I handle inactives. Sollux is new and not that articulate. This feels like past town games but he has less presence than I am used to. Could be due to a scum draw as I am not seeing the inquisitive nature I usually do from his town self. More time and posts are needed.logic340 said: I know right.. Followind and Sollux has wayyyyyy too little presence in thread. And the skimming thing doesn't help, it doesn't help us to get to understand them and I feel like it would be a very comfortable place for scum to hide :|Honestly from my past experience with Sollux (being a very new player) this type of read from him is not a surprise. Would like to see a little more effort as I am not seeing the inquisitive Sollux I am used to but this isn't enough for me to say scum after what happened to Rosie yesterday. followind I am having trouble following. He seems like a somewhat experienced player but like you I am having trouble finding his presence in the thread. |
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| Where is everykitty??? Meow am I the only klitty here? |
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| it took me like an hour to read and I didn't even check all the links lell. This thingie is really cool, it helped me to reconsider+remember few thingies. What I want to mention are: *Grape‘s jumping to vote RE is susp, because it looks like an easy catch because I was questioning her. *@logic340 -> „willow says she remembers switching being uncomfortable, but says that it shouldn't hinder Rodie from posting (here is more of that Nitpicking shit I noticed with willow not seeing the town intent here).“ So this is what you call nitpicking? :DD Nice to meet you, I am Willow, and sometimes I am strict about such things and questions rise for me when I hear people that they can‘t post anything on phone when they do and that they don‘t read the thread. xd This reminds me, feel free to point to where else u see me nitpickish about what u didn‘t mention yet, so that I‘d be able to respond to that. *„willow tells Grape it's between him or CP, interested in what Cross brings if it is about Claire willow may reconsider (would have been nice if she would have considered everything I said about Claire)“ M? Actually I did consider what u wrote and I agreed to the part about 118-120 because this was what bothered me until she came back. And I should say that where u all talk about other games and such it‘s not really that easy to have a clear opinion when u hear about some game that u don‘t know and ya hear some stories who did what over there. *“Sollux misinterprets #56 and says we will watch the dog lovers“ I didn‘t get where the misinterpretation is. *“ fololow explains why grrr, saying if he is mafia he can just lurk which is pretty much grrr's playstyle. Says he is meta reading him.“ It‘s bit funny coming from him xd *For Penta I'd add that saying that CP is town, that was strange. |
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logic340 said: Meow is herrreWhere is everykitty??? Meow am I the only klitty here? |
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| I am here too but in response to logic's ISO I be like |
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| I wish I knew how much of Claire's posts I can trust? Saying she lied about the town read on Penta while going for reasons (??) has me utterly confused right now. @_Claire_ can you tell me if you really feel Penta is scum or if you were just trying to get reactions? |
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Crossbell said: enjoy your evening and be safe. Looking forward to working through this with you tomorrow.I am going to be back tonight; gonna try to enjoy my Friday evening rather than stressing out about this game. |
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| @Penta I think I explained my town read on CP already. I often post things to refer back to when I am town and I have never seen mafia doing these. But when I do these it is directly connected with my ability and seeing CP as vanilla now confuses me why he needed the reference for. (is it just for searching? ) In any case I am proud of my self being right. |
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| @Re11016 the scum read on the night posters thing was obviously a joke since I don't like back reading long posts. |
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logic340 said: well, NAI posts probably have most relation to truth....amberwillow said: I wish I knew how much of Claire's posts I can trust? Saying she lied about the town read on Penta while going for reasons (??) has me utterly confused right now.Meow is herrre @_Claire_ can you tell me if you really feel Penta is scum or if you were just trying to get reactions? I really want to find out the reason behing going after him too. |
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grrr said: @Penta I think I explained my town read on CP already. I often post things to refer back to when I am town and I have never seen mafia doing these. But when I do these it is directly connected with my ability and seeing CP as vanilla now confuses me why he needed the reference for. (is it just for searching? ) In any case I am proud of my self being right. I have to say, it is interesting to see you so open. |
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Grapefruit21 said: I am not sure how to call it but it's something distorted._Claire_ said: DONT CLAIM YET. I want everyone to take a stance first about whether they believe my claim or not. At least wait until first half of this day phase (24 hours) pass. Especially I want @amberwillow to tell me what she thinks. @Lam-B too. Okay that's not a town response. Unvote Vote:Claire Literally everyone who doesn't believe your claim should 100% want to lynch you. U were so trustful of her and willing to act in favour of a claimed PR to see results. (1012) I don't particulary like Cross' post about telling people to claim if they are an investigative role. I see that u said that u agree with his conclusion but right here, I don't see what is so suspicious in this Claire's post that made u to turn to her. I mean, she didn't tell people not claim at all, she just had a relatevely small request to wait a little bit and you just crossed it off as scummish even though you could understand that she has something in mind. (this all is still from before Claire taking back her claim). So you said something about checking whenever she lied or not (1002 by voting the suspect she gave and here it seems that u suddenly got an oppurtunity to turn against her and just did that. Feels wrong. |
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Sollux16 said: Ok, I was gonna say that if there is, then Grrr has to be it. Since there isn't I'm going to Vote: Grrr everytime they vote, they don't really give a reason. They voted logic D1 and when asked for a reason, didn't say anything. I'm willing to over look that one for the simple fact it was more than likely a RVS, BUT later when they voted Rosie they were pushing people to vote claire while not voting for claire themselves. And when I asked for their reason, they still wouldn't explain. Now they have their vote on Logic again and still haven't really explained. @Grrr can you please explain your vote on Logic? Why do you think he is scum? Also, why are you so sure that you will have to change your vote? Are you voting for him but not really having a scum read on him? Normally I would ignore posts like that. I don't like given explanations but since somewhere someone said that you and who knows who else said that you are new I am going to explain: 1. My vote in the start of the game was obviously vote for pressure. It is start of the game, no one knows anything, or has any reads so obviously there is nothing to explain. 2. Someone asked me (I think it was you.) Why I voted the Rose-something person when I said that I want to lynch claire: It was the end of the phase and I wanted to avoid draw vote no lynch. (Normally I would do the opposite and even out the votes to tease mafia to force a draw, but that phase was mess at the end so I didn't want anyone to use "I got confused in the vote count" as excuse so I sealed the vote). 3. I said at the end of day 1 that I see logic as scum. It is just a light scum read based on behavior and voting. My vote on him today shouldn't be surprise. Now that I have seen the posts from today I will make much more heavy vote on logic: vote: logic This one I would explain even if you don't ask me to as I would like to see logic excuse for his behavior: So @logic, we have 2 claims penta - VT, claire - Tracker and you wanted to force a lynch on claire? Even when we can have her track someone and confirm / fail to confirm her role so we can have this resolved the next day and know with certainty which of them is lying? It makes no sense. |
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amberwillow said: @Sollux16 since u are here, I wanna ask if u have caught up with thread and what do you think about Grape and Followind? Are there any other people u find susp who look susp besides grr and Claire? Was there anything that caught your eye while u were reading the thread? Villa, I think I might know your dark secrets but I will not tell anyone :| (totally not suspecting Villa, and acting casual). |
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amberwillow said: grrr said: @Penta I think I explained my town read on CP already. I often post things to refer back to when I am town and I have never seen mafia doing these. But when I do these it is directly connected with my ability and seeing CP as vanilla now confuses me why he needed the reference for. (is it just for searching? ) In any case I am proud of my self being right. I have to say, it is interesting to see you so open. I dont get the picture : | , but please don't explain. I think I wouldn't like to know. |
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amberwillow said: Nah, I have mentioned everything I have noticed so far and I feel like it might be me who's nitpicking at this point. I feel I get better reads off real time interactions so I tend to poke at things I see as well. *@logic340 -> „willow says she remembers switching being uncomfortable, but says that it shouldn't hinder Rodie from posting (here is more of that Nitpicking shit I noticed with willow not seeing the town intent here).“ So this is what you call nitpicking? :DD Nice to meet you, I am Willow, and sometimes I am strict about such things and questions rise for me when I hear people that they can‘t post anything on phone when they do and that they don‘t read the thread. xd This reminds me, feel free to point to where else u see me nitpickish about what u didn‘t mention yet, so that I‘d be able to respond to that. amberwillow said: *„willow tells Grape it's between him or CP, interested in what Cross brings if it is about Claire willow may reconsider (would have been nice if she would have considered everything I said about Claire)“ M? Actually I did consider what u wrote and I agreed to the part about 118-120 because this was what bothered me until she came back. And I should say that where u all talk about other games and such it‘s not really that easy to have a clear opinion when u hear about some game that u don‘t know and ya hear some stories who did what over there. amberwillow said: CP was pointing out that Sollux didn't read the early post where I had said I was a dog lover in #56. #58 Tells me Sollux didn't understand what CP meant saying "we'll watch the dog lovers". I feel like he misinterpreted what CP meant as he was pointing "incriminating scum evidence for you" not watching dog lovers. What would you say happened in that exchange? *“Sollux misinterprets #56 and says we will watch the dog lovers“ I didn‘t get where the misinterpretation is. amberwillow said: I don't know this player so I have no reference. Could you enlighten me a bit on what you mean*“ fololow explains why grrr, saying if he is mafia he can just lurk which is pretty much grrr's playstyle. Says he is meta reading him.“ It‘s bit funny coming from him xd amberwillow said: Fair enough I need to go see where that change happened. Also I left out the overnight chat but remember CP and Penta had a little exchange about helping Mafia make NK or something?*For Penta I'd add that saying that CP is town, that was strange. |
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| @Penta I believe you are town based on what happened with Claire. But in some other game I would've suspected you based on your day 1 fake claim. It wasn't clear whether you are claiming cop, saying that you might be cop, or just assuming that you are a cop for a moment to discuss something. Probably because your statements were split in several posts, it turned out to be unclear. And fluid and unclear claims are scummy. |
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grrr said: As I explained to Grapefruit, I didn't believe Claire's claim based on her behavior D1. After seeing her lie the way she did about a PR in the last game I am not going to just accept every claim that comes my way. The timing was way off. She entered the thread and tried to argue against Pente before revealing her "results". In real time it felt off and fabricated. I wont shy away from my actions her behavior doesn't mimic first three posts. Her claim is actually the opposite of that "Town being spoon fed" by Claire. I kept the pressure on her I wonder if that is why she came clean or if she's really mafia?Sollux16 said: Ok, I was gonna say that if there is, then Grrr has to be it. Since there isn't I'm going to Vote: Grrr everytime they vote, they don't really give a reason. They voted logic D1 and when asked for a reason, didn't say anything. I'm willing to over look that one for the simple fact it was more than likely a RVS, BUT later when they voted Rosie they were pushing people to vote claire while not voting for claire themselves. And when I asked for their reason, they still wouldn't explain. Now they have their vote on Logic again and still haven't really explained. @Grrr can you please explain your vote on Logic? Why do you think he is scum? Also, why are you so sure that you will have to change your vote? Are you voting for him but not really having a scum read on him? Normally I would ignore posts like that. I don't like given explanations but since somewhere someone said that you and who knows who else said that you are new I am going to explain: 1. My vote in the start of the game was obviously vote for pressure. It is start of the game, no one knows anything, or has any reads so obviously there is nothing to explain. 2. Someone asked me (I think it was you.) Why I voted the Rose-something person when I said that I want to lynch claire: It was the end of the phase and I wanted to avoid draw vote no lynch. (Normally I would do the opposite and even out the votes to tease mafia to force a draw, but that phase was mess at the end so I didn't want anyone to use "I got confused in the vote count" as excuse so I sealed the vote). 3. I said at the end of day 1 that I see logic as scum. It is just a light scum read based on behavior and voting. My vote on him today shouldn't be surprise. Now that I have seen the posts from today I will make much more heavy vote on logic: vote: logic This one I would explain even if you don't ask me to as I would like to see logic excuse for his behavior: So @logic, we have 2 claims penta - VT, claire - Tracker and you wanted to force a lynch on claire? Even when we can have her track someone and confirm / fail to confirm her role so we can have this resolved the next day and know with certainty which of them is lying? It makes no sense. |
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grrr said: What do you mean?Also has anyone's cat related to hist ability? I believe not so we all should claim these. |
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grrr said: U got me, I keep potatoes under my bed, but don't tell anyone, k?Villa, I think I might know your dark secrets but I will not tell anyone :| (totally not suspecting Villa, and acting casual). Sure :P grrr said: What is hist ability?I want to request to not be protected by the doctor. I can handle myself. Also has anyone's cat related to hist ability? I believe not so we all should claim these. |
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Crossbell said: It sure feels like overwatchI have absolutely no idea what to make of this situation. My gut thinks that Claire is town because her replace-out post sounded sincere. My brain, however, points to the fact that she falseclaimed to out the investigative power role in the game and to try to lynch Penta. Is this really another Overwatch Mafia, or is Claire just scum? |
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Now that we know the truth will you go back and look at it from the other side? Grapefruit was the one attacking Purity yesterday not the other way around. As I re-read the thread and put together this Purity interactions post you are not looking as good as you did during your argument with Claire.My problem is that you are approaching the attack on grapefruit as showing why they are scum and not determining if they are scum. That's what I've caught from your posts. Also,my current behaviour is not antitown. That was just the gambit I was doing with grapefruit earlier. If you think I am being antitown, can you show why instead of just discrediting me by continuing to throw the word antitown around when it no longer applies to what I am doing? Huh what an interesting distortion of the facts to push your agenda on me. We both pushed each other. |
logic340 said: grrr said: What do you mean?Also has anyone's cat related to hist ability? I believe not so we all should claim these. Is your cat related to your role? |
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grrr said: logic340 said: Claire was getting heat from me and Penta to start the phase. Came out tried to defend herself and when that failed she claimed to see Penta visit CP last night. When that didn't work she admitted to being VT and asked to be Modkilled since no one else would be able to salvage her slot. I don't believe you. Claire is not crying kid like that. That sounds more like karote. LOL I am surprised you thought I werent. At least I dont trashtalk someone's play. |
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logic340 said: To me it looked like a casual not-too-serious-half-joking word exchange, I didn't really see a deeper meaning in that. But yeah, it seems that he didn't exactly get the meaning at least at first.amberwillow said: CP was pointing out that Sollux didn't read the early post where I had said I was a dog lover in #56. #58 Tells me Sollux didn't understand what CP meant saying "we'll watch the dog lovers". I feel like he misinterpreted what CP meant as he was pointing "incriminating scum evidence for you" not watching dog lovers. What would you say happened in that exchange? *“Sollux misinterprets #56 and says we will watch the dog lovers“ I didn‘t get where the misinterpretation is. logic340 said: Nah, I didn't mean other games (I don't remember if I had ever played with him). I was refering to this game that he said that grrr's inactivity is susp and easy for him as mafioso, while Follow himsel rarely shows up.amberwillow said: I don't know this player so I have no reference. Could you enlighten me a bit on what you mean*“ fololow explains why grrr, saying if he is mafia he can just lurk which is pretty much grrr's playstyle. Says he is meta reading him.“ It‘s bit funny coming from him xd logic340 said: I am not sure if u can call it helping but it was indeed talked about who could be possibly targeted.amberwillow said: Fair enough I need to go see where that change happened. Also I left out the overnight chat but remember CP and Penta had a little exchange about helping Mafia make NK or something?*For Penta I'd add that saying that CP is town, that was strange. |
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Grapefruit21 said: True. But later u did it more activelyHuh what an interesting distortion of the facts to push your agenda on me. We both pushed each other. |
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amberwillow said: Clairy! Are u going to answer those questions? What qtns? I am going to be replaced anyway. |
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Grapefruit21 said: You can into the thread pushing a lynch logic agenda.logic340 said: Now that we know the truth will you go back and look at it from the other side? Grapefruit was the one attacking Purity yesterday not the other way around. As I re-read the thread and put together this Purity interactions post you are not looking as good as you did during your argument with Claire. Huh what an interesting distortion of the facts to push your agenda on me. We both pushed each other. First vote moved to RE then talked about jumping back on me being reckless calling me scum all day here we are again today I am pushing an agenda You and Claire have been tied since the beginning and you didn't even give pause to the idea that she got you. You were right there in her pocket saying we got a Dichotomy when she got you. Now where are we? She is vanilla? Do you believe her? She is confusing and this type of shit has made the game hard for town twice in a row now while you were out there petitioning for better town play and she was saying town needs to step up. Is this what you call stepping up? |
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amberwillow said: I agree but unlike what logic says it was a mutual push.Grapefruit21 said: True. But later u did it more activelyHuh what an interesting distortion of the facts to push your agenda on me. We both pushed each other. |
_Claire_ said: You can continue to play with us until your replacement comes though.amberwillow said: Clairy! Are u going to answer those questions? What qtns? I am going to be replaced anyway. What is your real read on Penta? |
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_Claire_ said: >.> Yeah, but the replacement won't be able to reply what u thought..amberwillow said: Clairy! Are u going to answer those questions? What qtns? I am going to be replaced anyway. And Kit said that u can talk until ure replaced.. |
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Grapefruit21 said: Alright I'll drop that point for now you got plenty of other things to answer for. Why ignore me when I have inside info on scum CP? Seeing as how we were just teammates. Like you and Claire gave me no credence yesterday and it's not like either of you. Just off the chance that I could have rolled scum again?amberwillow said: I agree but unlike what logic says it was a mutual push.True. But later u did it more actively |
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