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Dec 6, 2022 10:20 AM

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Poor niave Denji thought he could take one of them hostage and they would care. You'd think with all that time among the Yakuza he'd know better.

I guess Makima didn't know the names of those other two. Or they're protected from that ability because they have contracts with Devils? Who knows.
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Dec 6, 2022 10:31 AM

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...Me and my buddies are being mushed by unseen forces.

Quick grab a hostage, I'm sure that will save me

(Splat)
Dec 6, 2022 10:59 AM
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holy crap. Now I see why Power is so afraid of makima What kind of Devil is she contracted to?

Kobeni goes some moves.

Also interesting they said only non-humans survived hmm..
Dec 6, 2022 11:08 AM

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Will Denji grow new legs or will they staple his existing legs back on and let him regen?

Kobeni is one crush away from full yandere.
Dec 6, 2022 11:30 AM

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You'd think that the train would have stopped as soon as they knew about the shootings, not just gone along to the station as if everything was hunky-dory.

Scardey cat Kobeni being a bad ass was unexpected, but then again, how could she be a devil hunter without having some capability.

I am guessing Makima's power doesn't work on Devils

I just finished God of War: Ragnarok, so the ravens reminded me of Odin's ravens
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curr0001 said:
What kind of Devil is she contracted to?


The Hydraulic Press devil?

Kobeni goes some moves.


Himeno did say she had the moves. I also get the impression she doesn't fear humans much, if at all, it's mostly just devils.
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Well that brought up more questions than answers. Interesting Makima can sacrifice other people, pretty convenient. Still doesn't answer how she isn't dead. She did say she wasn't shot right? Is that her just being her steady cool self (almost getting creepy now)? Hmm. Also those guys on the train had pretty big holes in them, wonder why we didn't see THAT power? So Himeno's devil wasn't dead? If Katana man can cut two people in half why didn't he do the same to Aki? I know that girl said their suits are tough but just cut his head off. Speaking of him where did he and Power go?
Also how dumb are these bad guys all they wanted was Denji's heart so why drag his whole body just cut it out (or reach in and grab it). Interesting what they have to give up to their devils, just a fingernail? She seemes pretty bugged by it, seems pretty minor compared to Himeno. Wonder if Katana man's arm is gone for good, guess it would be. Makes me wonder if Kobeni was using a power or not (Katana man seemed to have auoer speed too), wow her partner what a boss move to save her.
Hopefully we get some clarity on these powers they all seem pretty convoluted. Also none of the survivors are human? Aki and Kobeni aren't human? Did that also include Makima? 3 more episodes is not going to be enough.
Dec 6, 2022 7:11 PM

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Heights Devil maybe? Killing guys with the fear of falling to death kind of fits with needing a high up location and people going Splat.
Dec 6, 2022 7:22 PM

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MenchiK1 said:
Speaking of him where did he and Power go?


Last we saw Aki he was still on the roof and that snake demon summoning girl said Power ran off.

Also none of the survivors are human? Aki and Kobeni aren't human? Did that also include Makima?


That's in reference to the two bad guys that weren't targeted by Makima's super squish attacks.

Edit: OK, I forgot that the one gov't guy said something about the ones left were non-humans. What he specifically said, though, was almost all of the only ones left were non human. Kobeni never actually got shot, so who knows about her. I'd guess she's human though.
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I assume Power grabbed Aki when escaping. Otherwise they wouldn't have left him alive. Somebody's gotta cook!

Dec 13, 2022 9:33 AM

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Episode 10

And now, the devil hunters are dealing with heavy losses there. Not only with the hunters who died in the last attack, but with Aki having a hard time making a contract with a stronger devil seeing that he's not strong enough as he is. And then Denji and Power go through some brutal training there being killed over and over again in order to get strong. After what happened in he last battle that there's no question everybody needs to get as strong as they can, even if it kills them.
Dec 13, 2022 9:36 AM

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Dammit, they didn't fully introduce the devil at the end.

Kishibe being a baddest of all badasses and a total gigachad. Kenjiro Tsuda voicing Kishibe is so fitting. Dude is voicing EVERYBODY.

I'm probably a broken record at this point, but it's insane how, even in slow episodes like today, this show has Ghibli movie quality of animation. Those animators are cracked.
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Dec 13, 2022 9:49 AM

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Kishibe reminds me of Nanami from Jujutsu Kaisen, for more than just having the same VA
Dec 14, 2022 7:20 AM
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He outplayed them even while they had smarty glasses on? That guy's cheating.
Dec 14, 2022 8:32 AM

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Power wearing glasses? Yes thank you, more please.
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Dec 14, 2022 6:33 PM
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Denji and Power are becoming more and more amusing at how completely stupid they are. Kind of weird Denji doesn't care even if Makima died, I thought he said her being the first person to treat him with respect and wanting her to be his first would mean something to him.
Well that sure beat any other rough training in other anime, literally killing your pupils. (Well I guess they did the same in Idaten but they were gods so a little different) Kind of disappointing Makima left so early in the episode and her power wasn't adressed more. Aki, 2 years left damn, might as well do what you can, kind of odd they would have devils captured alive and imprisoned (how powerful can they be?) when all the ones we gave seen so far have been more incorporeal, wish we'd get more exposition on that.
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MenchiK1 said:
Denji and Power are becoming more and more amusing at how completely stupid they are. Kind of weird Denji doesn't care even if Makima died, I thought he said her being the first person to treat him with respect and wanting her to be his first would mean something to him.
Well that sure beat any other rough training in other anime, literally killing your pupils. (Well I guess they did the same in Idaten but they were gods so a little different) Kind of disappointing Makima left so early in the episode and her power wasn't adressed more. Aki, 2 years left damn, might as well do what you can, kind of odd they would have devils captured alive and imprisoned (how powerful can they be?) when all the ones we gave seen so far have been more incorporeal, wish we'd get more exposition on that.
I think he's more hinting at the fact he's not human anymore.
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MenchiK1 said:
kind of odd they would have devils captured alive and imprisoned (how powerful can they be?) when all the ones we gave seen so far have been more incorporeal, wish we'd get more exposition on that.


I think the only reason those devils can show up and then disappear like that is because they have contracts and are summoned. Otherwise I don't think they're capable of just appearing out of nowhere like that on their own.
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zkeleton said:
MenchiK1 said:
kind of odd they would have devils captured alive and imprisoned (how powerful can they be?) when all the ones we gave seen so far have been more incorporeal, wish we'd get more exposition on that.


I think the only reason those devils can show up and then disappear like that is because they have contracts and are summoned. Otherwise I don't think they're capable of just appearing out of nowhere like that on their own.


But right before Aki enteted the cell the Kyoto guy said this devil was already contracted to 3 other devil hubters and even listed the body parts they had to give up, saying maybe Aki will get lucky and he will like him and not have to give up as much. So you're saying they sit in the cell until summoned and then return?
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MenchiK1 said:
zkeleton said:


I think the only reason those devils can show up and then disappear like that is because they have contracts and are summoned. Otherwise I don't think they're capable of just appearing out of nowhere like that on their own.


But right before Aki enteted the cell the Kyoto guy said this devil was already contracted to 3 other devil hubters and even listed the body parts they had to give up, saying maybe Aki will get lucky and he will like him and not have to give up as much. So you're saying they sit in the cell until summoned and then return?


If that's what the terms of the contract are then they'd have to abide by them. That doesn't mean every devil someone has a contract with is going to be in a cell though. They said the fox devil has a lot of contracts and likes humans and it must not be stuck in a cell somewhere because Aki could then just go and talk to it. Plus not all devil contracts need to be set up in a way where the devil itself appears or manifests. We never saw any kind of devil show up when Makima splattered those bad guys like she shoved them into a food processor. Maybe a contract with the future devil gives you some kind of future sight or something.
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Dec 20, 2022 9:27 AM

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Episode 11

Aki makes a deal with the Future Devil, and for the price he gets into his eye and anything that happens in the future will happen, which includes Aki's death. The future rules as he says, and there's no stopping it. While Aki is preparing for his first mision under contract of the Future Devil, Makima offers some guy who's about to commit a "necessary evil" a bag of eyeballs. So with Aki's mission, he's dealing with a number of devils and fiends in one place, and it turns into a bloodbath. And for Aki, the power of the Future Devil gives his human enemies nosebleeds before they are killed. But against that devil contracted by Sawatari, he's not doing so hot there. With that, one more episode left, and I can expect a sequel announcement to be made next week given how popular the manga is and that 12 episodes only barely scratches the surface of this manga.
Dec 20, 2022 10:19 AM

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BEAM the Shark Fiend!! Best bro is here! (and voice by Tanjiro lol)


Man my mind is so far down the gutter... That scene of the five gangsters standing behind Makima on the couch reminded me of a certain meme...
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Dec 20, 2022 11:27 AM

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Well that was good, but at the same time, super disappointing. Denji and Power--but mostly Denji--are the best characters on this show, but we don't see nearly enough of them. Instead we get Aki shoved in our our face at, seemingly, every opportunity they can take. He's the most cookie cutter--I'll do anything for revenge--character of all the mains and, on top of that, just about every time he shows up they do all these little extra bits of animation to stretch out his scenes. While I really want to see Denji and Power fight, I'll take seeing pretty much any of the other primary characters over Aki. Even Kobeni has become way more interesting than him.
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Makima is obviously a demon, and Kishibe seems to know. Surprised they let her go around without supervision, since she seems to mutilate even innocent people
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Ahh just when it was getting good, well I know Aki isn't going to die because I doubt future devil would find dying like that awesome. Hmmm wonder why Ghost has to listen to snake girl, seems like there is a new devil "rule" every week. So Makima (that smile) doesn't need someone else to say a name to kill someone? She can just look at them? Wonder why the guys on the train had holes in them. That was some brutal blackmail with the eyes...yikes. The new fiends and devils seem fun, I like the shark fiend. Kobeni is back to being boring I guess. Angel devil? Seems like an oxymoron. So is there a devil devil?
Guess the finale is Denji vs Katana round 2.
Dec 20, 2022 6:53 PM
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Shark fiend is my new fav char.
Dec 20, 2022 8:41 PM

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Well, there is a Devil for anything people are afraid of, and Angels, particularly the old testament ones, are bloody terrifying.
Dec 21, 2022 9:30 AM

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So if Makima is a devil, and now that I thought of this I'm thinking she might be, then I'm guessing she's...

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zkeleton said:
So if Makima is a devil, and now that I thought of this I'm thinking she might be, then I'm guessing she's...



Wondering if they gave it away with Aki and the future Devil and maybe Makima's devil lives inside her, which is why we don't hear or see it.
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People can have multiple contracts it seems. So I'd guess Makima and maybe Sawatari the snake lady.

As for the 'katana' guy, I kind of feel more like he's a 'machete' guy. The tips of the blades were very rounded.
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People can have multiple contracts it seems. So I'd guess Makima and maybe Sawatari the snake lady.

As for the 'katana' guy, I kind of feel more like he's a 'machete' guy. The tips of the blades were very rounded.


I thought the same thing, why are they calling him "katana" man, when those aten't katanas.
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MenchiK1 said:
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People can have multiple contracts it seems. So I'd guess Makima and maybe Sawatari the snake lady.

As for the 'katana' guy, I kind of feel more like he's a 'machete' guy. The tips of the blades were very rounded.


I thought the same thing, why are they calling him "katana" man, when those aten't katanas.
Doesn't katana basically just mean sword? Any sort of long blade is a sword. Even shorter ones are called 'short swords.' He's the sword devil, or has the sword devil's heart anyway. There's plenty of people out there who wouldn't know the difference between a machete, claymore or falchion (even people who should know better don't know what a real falchion is--thanks D&D). To them they're all just swords.
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zkeleton said:


Doesn't katana basically just mean sword? 
A single edged sword.  
Dec 22, 2022 9:31 PM

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Something worth mentioning as I completely forgot about it. CR accidentally mistranslated what the Future Devil said to Aki and later fixed it.

CR's first translation: "The reason is this: your death in the future will fucking rule."

CR's fixed/correct translation: "The reason is this: your death in the future will be the fucking worst"

I think the reason why CR made this mistake is because how "best" (saiko) and "worst" (saiaku) sound very similar to each in Japanese. I'll give them a pass on this since they did go back and fix this.
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Dec 23, 2022 5:39 AM
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In context it's not really different. :P Future Devil wants to see how awful Aki's death will be from the front row.
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I think the reason why CR made this mistake is because how "best" (saiko) and "worst" (saiaku) sound very similar to each in Japanese. I'll give them a pass on this since they did go back and fix this.
Kind of like kawaii (cute) and kowai (scary)
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marklebid said:
In context it's not really different. :P Future Devil wants to see how awful Aki's death will be from the front row.
True, but for consistency's sake it's better to have at "worst" since the Future Devil did say "saiaku". Plus the both Viz's translation in the manga and the kanji in the Japanese manga are "worst".
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Binged these 11 episodes over a couple days, and it feels like a good series for such. We've got a blood and guts super-powered fantasy fueled (at least early on) by juvenile sexual conquest wrapped up in a dark setting, but not so dark as to be unable to enjoy the above fantasy. Then there's the animated feast for the eyes whether it's a splatter fest, or Aki making coffee, or Yumeno tossing Denji's shoes down the hallway. Seriously, it's the weirdest delights sometimes. And props to the show for bringing me some actual feelings of horror with episodes 8 and 9. I don't think this will do much beyond being a shounen action show, but I guess this might actually be some peak shounen, huh?

I guess the last good thing this show has going for it is personality. Denji and Power have both been endearingly stupid and amusingly flippant. I'll second more scenes of Power in glasses. And come on, @MenchiK1. You were wondering if a shounen blood demon could be female. Makima is enjoyably mysterious, frighteningly capable, and before it was revealed that angel thing from the opening was a separate fiend, I was fairly sure it was her devil. In a world where fear itself actually manifests as the scariest adversary, that's were I find myself swiftly moving my stance on censorship. And fear of god, final judgement, or a certain fallen angel has to be up there. The internet may have kind of spoiled Kobeni for me. Be careful googling her if you care. I can make sense of how she got it, but none what I'm seeing here. Still, she's been fun in her own way seeing when and how she losses it. Kobeni kind of reminds me of scaredy cat lightning boy from Demon Slayer except handled way better. I'm also kind of in line with Aki being bland. I think the best thing Aki added to the show is how others acted around him like Denji, Power, and Yumeno. Now after him reading the letter, we probably won't have more of Yumeno there. When we have Aki in vacuum it does feel relatively empty, but the show also seems to use him give weight to some things. Seeing Yumeno rip cord Denji, I think I would have liked it if she somehow became the ghost... whatever Denji is. Oh well. She was still impactful this way.

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Episode 12 (Finale)

Aki completes his first job as under contract for the Future Devil by beheading that monstrosity.  While that's happening, Denji meets the Katana Man, and it's a battle of the blades.  Just when it looked like Katana Man had Denji beat, that was just a way to get Katana Man to drop his guard as he's tough, but gullible.  And that's how with only the chainsaw on his head that Denji defeated the Katana Man and bring Himeno's killer to justice.  And in-line with that cigarette Aki smokes at the end, it wasn't easy, but Denji made revenge look easy.  And so, this show has finished, but it only scratched the surface of the main story and given how insanely popular the manga is that it shouldn't be long before a second season is announced.

Final Thoughts

I had high expectations coming into this show and the animation meets them, and then some.  The show is nicely animated in all of its gory glory, the characters are an interesting bunch, and the show has very strong storytelling.  In all, this show blends in action, story telling, and amusement all seamlessly.  Just about the only thing not up to snuff in this show is the pacing as it goes fast in some places and slow in others.  But in the grand scheme of things, everything works.

Grade: A+ (10/10)
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That was a meh ending tbh. 

Nothing much on this finale besides Reze appearing in the end like an MCU post credit scenes. 

The best moments from the manga only come in later, so I'd say this part was like an 8.5/10
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SHIIIIIIIT, I knew they'd slightly tease one of the best characters right at the end. Voiced by Ueda Rena too!!

This anime is one of the rarest anime where I had unbelievably high expectations for it and didn't simply meet it but surpassed it. Easily one of the greatest anime I've ever watched in a very long time. From animation, voice acting, scriptwriting, storytelling, characters, etc. MAPPA went 100% balls to walls for this show being 100% the sole member of the production committee taking on extremely high risk and I think they've paid off. Although I wish it was used less but the CGI was fine and I think this show is the culmination of MAPPA improving the CGI as time passed.

Fellow cultured people, twas on honor watching this incredible anime with you all and it was definitely enjoyable watching all the anime only watchers give their opinions, theories and guesses. I definitely laughed at some of y'all's responses whether if it was positive or negative. A lot of questions y'all asked will be answered later in the future seasons or if you want to jump into the manga.

You thought this show was crazy and incredible? Unfortunately, this season isn't even the best part of Chainsaw Man, all the best parts are literally after this conclusion. In fact that girl you saw at the very end is massive fan favorite character who is fully introduced in the next arc which is arguably one of the best arcs of this series.

I have no doubt a second season will be green lit, it's just a matter of time and currently MAPPA is too damn booked for so many high profile shows right now so I don't think it'll be soon.
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Hmmm not much of an ending for anime only viewers, could have done without the 5 minute montage. The fights were a little too easy considering how much damage they did before. Oh well cool show overall, just going to be a pain having to wait for MAPPA and their glacial pace to make more of this. If they even do, from what I have read the response in Japan hasn't been as enthusiastic and sales aren't up to expectations. Maybe for once I'll just read the manga...
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BEAM the Shark Fiend!! Best bro is here! (and voice by Tanjiro lol)


Man my mind is so far down the gutter... That scene of the five gangsters standing behind Makima on the couch reminded me of a certain meme...


Apparently you aren't the only one (and I'm not as big a degenerate as I thought) https://en.datosjam.net.pe/anime/otaku/fans-believe-chainsaw-man-made-a-reference-to-porn/
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People already giving spoilers for the next season, great job guys.
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Katana guy cut off Denji's arms and thought he could only attack with his head after that, which is why he didn't see the leg chainsaw coming.  Guy lost because he wasn't thorough enough.  And Denji and Aki kicking the guy in the nuts constantly after the fight was hilarious.  The last minutes after the credits were probably the only downside because they were boring as all hell.  Well, except for the "don't open the door!" bit.
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Was this a really long Camel Cigarette commercial?

Did katana man know what a piece of shit his granddad was or how he sold Denji out?  Guess being a piece of shit himself, he didn't really care.

Pretty good show, left me wanting more

I'd probably rate it around 7.5/10 with an upgrade to 8/10 for MAL
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MenchiK1 said:
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BEAM the Shark Fiend!! Best bro is here! (and voice by Tanjiro lol)


Man my mind is so far down the gutter... That scene of the five gangsters standing behind Makima on the couch reminded me of a certain meme...


Apparently you aren't the only one (and I'm not as big a degenerate as I thought) https://en.datosjam.net.pe/anime/otaku/fans-believe-chainsaw-man-made-a-reference-to-porn/
The Japanese and anime seem to love memes too, see the meme I posted from Immoral Guild which was an obvious rip from the guy walking down the street with his girlfriend but turning around to eye up a hot girl walking by.
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Was this a really long Camel Cigarette commercial?


Himeno was pretty skilled to write such neat cursive on such a small curved surface.
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Hmm noticed this while reading the manga that covers the anime episodes (this is ep 5) from when they had the flashback to Aki's childhood when Makima was telling Denji about the GunDevil.  This is the book Aki's parents were reading his little brother 

Same thing the character at the end of ep 12 was asking Denji  (or is that Makima talking?)"which is better the country or city mouse", I will assume it was not a coincidence.

OK well after reading this the WHOLE story becomes a little clearer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Town_Mouse_and_the_Country_Mouse

Now all those comments and stuff through out the show make sense. When Makima says the food in the city is to die for. (is she a city cat?) Denji always satisfied with simple things and disappointed with stuff he puts high expectations on, he must be a country mouse.  Very interesting. Be pretty amazing if the author of the manga was able to create this whole show just based on one of Aesop's fables.
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Good way to end season 1.
Had a good mix of humor action and blood.

Not the greats show everrrr like people were saying but very solid and would reccomend  to others.

I'm sure we will see a season 2.
Once Mappa is done with Vinland saga season 2.
and juju taisin season 2.

and the the final we really mean it Attack on titan final season

and 2 other show they have coming up that I can't remember the titles right now

Might be a bit of wait.. :)
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