ssjokg said: Nyarlathothep said: Btw, can someone please tell me where I can read the end of Fate Apocrypha LN? . The future. Or find the thread and the post where it was translated. Nah, if I read the future, I will only get spoilers which I can find on Google Oh, so there's a link somewhere on the group o: ShadowfrostZen said: Apocrypha ends in a literal shitstorm, because the factions fall apart quickly, which leaves Shishigou, Mordred, Jeanne, Astolfo and Sieg to defeat both factions. I know Karna and Amakusa both perish in Book 5, though. Shanks, but I generally tend to avoid spoilers since I like reading things as they go >.< Not that what you say was not to be expected. |
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| Yeah spoiler tags would have been nice |
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ShadowfrostZen said: -REDACTED- Gee, thanks for the spoilers. |
| It stopped being Red VS Black and turned into Sieg's bizarre adventure which is dumb. |
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| You know, I'm tone deaf to spoilers. KaiserNazrin said: You don't even have to be spoiled to know this.It stopped being Red VS Black and turned into Sieg's bizarre adventure which is dumb. |
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| A lot of people may not be spoiled on some or all of the events of the upcoming adaptations, so let's not ruin that for them. Thank god I read page 3 first, so I avoided the spoilers haha. Back on-topic, and without spoilers if you may, in which volume do you think Apocrypha loses steam? I want to set my expectations accordingly. Who knows, maybe I'll end up liking it if my expectations were extremely low :p And a final question, and you can spoil me on this, with tags of course, bit how much actual focus do Fran and Jack end up getting? While I see that Apo is a battle royals, I keep seeing that the story has a clearly defined protagonist and isn't as much of an ensemble as we're first lead to believe. So, if the focus is clearly biased towards some characters, and I know Jeanne is one of those, I wanna know if my other favorites will get shafted as a result. |
| Fran can't talk for shit, there's not much to do with her. She only fought against one servant IIRC. Jack is nowhere to be seen. |
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| There're no scenes from her perspective then? Is everything in the novel narrated by a narrator like in the manga? Because that really sucks, if true. Damn I expected more. Really? I thought Unbirth was made because Jack was very popular in Apocrypha. My hype for Apocrypha has just dampened considerably. At least Jeanne gets a fair bit of characterization not just "l'm Ruler. I'm also blond", right? |
| Well, we do know see something from her perspective. Jack hasn't do anything as far as I have read which is volume 3 I think. I do know she do something later on. Jeanne is just being Jeanne though there really is no need for any romance between her and Sieg. No one cares about Sieg. There is no valid reason whatsoever for Jeanne to love him. He is a petty homunculus who just want to live. Goddamn cardboard for personality. He is so empty, you can insert heroic spirit inside him. |
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| > He is a petty homunculus who just want to live. Goddamn cardboard for personality. He is so empty, you can insert heroic spirit inside him. I dont know if this reminds me more of Kuro or Hakuno. |
ssjokg said: > He is a petty homunculus who just want to live. Goddamn cardboard for personality. He is so empty, you can insert heroic spirit inside him. I dont know if this reminds me more of Kuro or Hakuno. Um, Kuro really shouldn't be in that sentence. |
astroprogs said: ssjokg said: > He is a petty homunculus who just want to live. Goddamn cardboard for personality. He is so empty, you can insert heroic spirit inside him. I dont know if this reminds me more of Kuro or Hakuno. Um, Kuro really shouldn't be in that sentence. She is like Sieg in that she is a homunculus that wants to live.And she does try to save the others, even if it isnt the goal that started it all. Hm....I dont she any objection about Hakuno. Anyway, my point is that Sieg isnt something new. As for Jack and Fran, |
ssjokg said: She is like Sieg in that she is a homunculus that wants to live.And she does try to save the others, even if it isnt the goal that started it all. Hm....I dont she any objection about Hakuno. Anyway, my point is that Sieg isnt something new. As for Jack and Fran, That was directed at the "cardboard for personality" comment, because Kuro certainly had more going for her than just being a "humonculous who wanted to live". She already got that at the very beginning of 2wei. |
| Oh that part was about hakuno. |
| So it's like everyone has read the end but no one can link it to me OTL Too many spoilers here -___- KaiserNazrin said: Jeanne is just being Jeanne though there really is no need for any romance between her and Sieg. No one cares about Sieg. There is no valid reason whatsoever for Jeanne to love him. He is a petty homunculus who just want to live. Goddamn cardboard for personality. He is so empty, you can insert heroic spirit inside him.  Sieg is 'Empty' because he's like a newborn learning about the world, which is precisely why other characters protect him. As he is with them, he learns from them, and wants to protect and help them back, caring about them and not only about himself. At first, he has survival instincts, but he evolves in the story. That makes him a decent person, which would be enough reason for other characters to actually appreciate him. Also, "he's so empty you can insert [a reader/player] inside him". Besides, I once read somewhere that mongrels helping another mongrel will appreciate this mongrel more since it all comes from a positive feeling and because it gives them a better opinion of themselves. In the story, Ruler is all about positive feelings, despite her circumstances. In fact, I do think it may be more surprising for Sieg to actually love others since he's been on the receiving end. Couldn't find any better article about this : https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-attraction-doctor/201105/make-them-love-you-taking-not-giving |
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astroprogs said: Fran's not that important in the story, but her Master has really, really good sync with her before she esplodes. Jack and Reika have like, 2-3 chapters per book.A lot of people may not be spoiled on some or all of the events of the upcoming adaptations, so let's not ruin that for them. Thank god I read page 3 first, so I avoided the spoilers haha. Back on-topic, and without spoilers if you may, in which volume do you think Apocrypha loses steam? I want to set my expectations accordingly. Who knows, maybe I'll end up liking it if my expectations were extremely low :p And a final question, and you can spoil me on this, with tags of course, bit how much actual focus do Fran and Jack end up getting? While I see that Apo is a battle royals, I keep seeing that the story has a clearly defined protagonist and isn't as much of an ensemble as we're first lead to believe. So, if the focus is clearly biased towards some characters, and I know Jeanne is one of those, I wanna know if my other favorites will get shafted as a result. |
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Nyarlathothep said: So it's like everyone has read the end but no one can link it to me OTL Too many spoilers here -___- KaiserNazrin said: Jeanne is just being Jeanne though there really is no need for any romance between her and Sieg. No one cares about Sieg. There is no valid reason whatsoever for Jeanne to love him. He is a petty homunculus who just want to live. Goddamn cardboard for personality. He is so empty, you can insert heroic spirit inside him. Sieg is 'Empty' because he's like a newborn learning about the world, which is precisely why other characters protect him. As he is with them, he learns from them, and wants to protect and help them back, caring about them and not only about himself. At first, he has survival instincts, but he evolves in the story. That makes him a decent person, which would be enough reason for other characters to actually appreciate him. Also, "he's so empty you can insert [a reader/player] inside him". Besides, I once read somewhere that mongrels helping another mongrel will appreciate this mongrel more since it all comes from a positive feeling and because it gives them a better opinion of themselves. In the story, Ruler is all about positive feelings, despite her circumstances. In fact, I do think it may be more surprising for Sieg to actually love others since he's been on the receiving end. Couldn't find any better article about this : https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-attraction-doctor/201105/make-them-love-you-taking-not-giving too long, didn't read. Sieg is a boring character that turn what could be an interesting story into a shit story about his life. "Boo hoo, I am homunculus, I don't want to die. Look at how cruel this world treat me. Few chapters later " I got powers now so I can save everyone like me. :D" But why should I care? |
Kaiser-chanJan 12, 2017 7:04 PM
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KaiserNazrin said: Nyarlathothep said: So it's like everyone has read the end but no one can link it to me OTL Too many spoilers here -___- Sieg is 'Empty' because he's like a newborn learning about the world, which is precisely why other characters protect him. As he is with them, he learns from them, and wants to protect and help them back, caring about them and not only about himself. At first, he has survival instincts, but he evolves in the story. That makes him a decent person, which would be enough reason for other characters to actually appreciate him. Also, "he's so empty you can insert [a reader/player] inside him". Besides, I once read somewhere that mongrels helping another mongrel will appreciate this mongrel more since it all comes from a positive feeling and because it gives them a better opinion of themselves. In the story, Ruler is all about positive feelings, despite her circumstances. In fact, I do think it may be more surprising for Sieg to actually love others since he's been on the receiving end. Couldn't find any better article about this : https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-attraction-doctor/201105/make-them-love-you-taking-not-giving too long, didn't read. Sieg is a boring character that turn what could be an interesting story into a shit story about his life. "Boo hoo, I am homunculus, I don't want to die. Look at how cruel this world treat me. Few chapters later " I got powers now so I can save everyone like me. :D" But why should I care? Why should you care about Kerry, Chaldeas, Shirou, Kirei, Artoria, EMIYA, Rin, Sakura or any other character in a fictional story ever created? That's a pretty dumb question. Also, "too long, didn't read"? That was two paragraphs, dude. Do you stop reading after two lines? |
Frostbite_ said: KaiserNazrin said: too long, didn't read. Sieg is a boring character that turn what could be an interesting story into a shit story about his life. "Boo hoo, I am homunculus, I don't want to die. Look at how cruel this world treat me. Few chapters later " I got powers now so I can save everyone like me. :D" But why should I care? Why should you care about Kerry, Chaldeas, Shirou, Kirei, Artoria, EMIYA, Rin, Sakura or any other character in a fictional story ever created? That's a pretty dumb question. Also, "too long, didn't read"? That was two paragraphs, dude. Do you stop reading after two lines? Because they are interesting? I mean some of them at least so I would care. This guy is literally nobody. There is no such thing as dumb question. I read it but I don't want to think about it. |
Kaiser-chanJan 13, 2017 6:17 AM
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KaiserNazrin said: Frostbite_ said: Why should you care about Kerry, Chaldeas, Shirou, Kirei, Artoria, EMIYA, Rin, Sakura or any other character in a fictional story ever created? That's a pretty dumb question. Also, "too long, didn't read"? That was two paragraphs, dude. Do you stop reading after two lines? Because they are interesting? I mean some of them at least so I would care. There is no such thing as dumb question. Too long for something I don't care about. Which means you assume he's not interesting. Which is kind of a shitty thing to do. And if you didn't care about it at all, why are you even talking about it? You seem pretty angry about it to me. |
Frostbite_ said: KaiserNazrin said: Because they are interesting? I mean some of them at least so I would care. There is no such thing as dumb question. Too long for something I don't care about. Which means you assume he's not interesting. Which is kind of a shitty thing to do. And if you didn't care about it at all, why are you even talking about it? You seem pretty angry about it to me. He is not interesting. I read the damn thing. I know what he is. Do you? I don't care about him but I have to read story about him so I can talk about how much I don't care about him. Get it? |
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| I did care about him so? I mean,we always read about how the Einzberns treat homunculi, and some of us cared about those so..... |
ssjokg said: I did care about him so? I mean,we always read about how the Einzberns treat homunculi, and some of us cared about those so..... Good for you, man. I never did. |
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KaiserNazrin said: I am talking about your "Nobody cares about him".ssjokg said: I did care about him so? I mean,we always read about how the Einzberns treat homunculi, and some of us cared about those so..... Good for you, man. I never did. I never cared about Hakuno and I think Extra sucks but everyone else thinks it is great. |
KaiserNazrin said: Frostbite_ said: Which means you assume he's not interesting. Which is kind of a shitty thing to do. And if you didn't care about it at all, why are you even talking about it? You seem pretty angry about it to me. He is not interesting. I read the damn thing. I know what he is. Do you? I don't care about him but I have to read story about him so I can talk about how much I don't care about him. Get it? Again, you clearly care. You're angry about something because if you weren't, you'd just shrug and move on. |
ssjokg said: I am talking about your "Nobody cares about him". I never cared about Hakuno and I think Extra sucks but everyone else thinks it is great. Well, there are more than 2 billions people in this planet so it should be possible for someone to think differently. Not everyone can hate someone and not everyone can like someone. I simply use nobody because its a popular opinion that people don't care and dislike him. That's something we have in common. |
Kaiser-chanJan 13, 2017 6:53 AM
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Frostbite_ said: KaiserNazrin said: He is not interesting. I read the damn thing. I know what he is. Do you? I don't care about him but I have to read story about him so I can talk about how much I don't care about him. Get it? Again, you clearly care. You're angry about something because if you weren't, you'd just shrug and move on. I am gonna shrug and move on from you. |
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| Sieg has an agreeable personality, but that makes him not stand out much from other characters, which is why some may find him "Boring". When I was reading his story, I was interested in the consequences of what Siegfried did to him, since it was pretty unusual. I'm not particularly fond of him either, but I still think he's okay-ish. |
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| Sieg has potential, but he wasted it. I don't find him as bad as Shirou imho. |
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| So, besides the ones listed before, there is another upcoming Fate anime movie : A Prisma Illya movie. How lucky I am, since I finished the Prisma Illya animes, I'll be able to watch it Lol Actually, last season was not as bad as previous ones and Shirou was rather cool. Gil-kun steals the spotlight when he appears, as expected |
NyarlathothepJan 14, 2017 3:57 PM
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Nyarlathothep said: So, besides the ones listed before, there is another upcoming Fate anime movie : A Prisma Illya movie. How lucky I am, since I finished the Prisma Illya animes, I'll be able to watch it Lol Actually, last season was not as bad as previous ones and Shirou was rather cool. Gil-kun steals the spotlight when he appears, as expected If you though that of the last iseason, the movie should blow your socks off. Ever imagined F/SN Shirou going through HF without Rin teaching and backing him up? People started labeling 3rei as Heaven's Feel 2.0 solely because of that arc. |
astroprogsJan 14, 2017 9:23 PM
astroprogs said: Nyarlathothep said: So, besides the ones listed before, there is another upcoming Fate anime movie : A Prisma Illya movie. How lucky I am, since I finished the Prisma Illya animes, I'll be able to watch it Lol Actually, last season was not as bad as previous ones and Shirou was rather cool. Gil-kun steals the spotlight when he appears, as expected If you though that of the last iseason, the movie should blow your socks off. Ever imagined F/SN Shirou going through HF without Rin teaching and backing him up? People started labeling 3rei as Heaven's Feel 2.0 solely because of that arc. Seeing the turn the anime got, I expect the movie to be interesting. You will laugh .. I know almost nothing of the Heaven's Fell route Haha I avoid spoilers and patiently wait for the anime, so xD Maybe it's also because Sakura appears? She seems rather yandere for Shirou. |
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Fate scans from Comp Ace March 2017 issue.  The rest: |
| Wow Sieg looks SOOOOOOOO bad. |
ssjokg said: Wow Sieg looks SOOOOOOOO bad. It's Ishida, so... yeah. |
| Sieg didn't look particularly good in the first place. I wonderred a bit who was the woman on the right, I forgot about her o: Do we know at which moment of the year the series will be out? |
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Nyarlathothep said: Sieg didn't look particularly good in the first place. I wonderred a bit who was the woman on the right, I forgot about her o: Do we know at which moment of the year the series will be out? Personally, i think he looks pretty good in the anime trailer. I believe that's Reika. She also got this CE in GO. Definitely looking forward to her character in the anime. No, we just have "2017" as the date. |
| ^ This pic is nice. That's his best angle :p Guessed so since Assassin of Black was also on the pic. Their duo didn't particularly interest me in the novel so they're not the ones I'm looking forward to in the anime For none of the animes o: I don't even know about Heaven's Feels Q__Q |
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| Sakura's dialogue is literally just talking about cooking. They really are capturing the true spirit of Heaven's Feel. |
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KingOfSherous said: Sakura's dialogue is literally just talking about cooking. They really are capturing the true spirit of Heaven's Feel. Fish simmering in motion HYPE. |
ufo's Furusato x Awa Odori ad posters featuring F/SN: Heaven's Feel.    |
| >Hassan >Shadow >Caren >Bazett >Angra Hollow Ataraxia adaptation confirmed. |
 This illustration will be on a bonus clear file that will be handed to those who order their tickets early (starting from February 18th). Looks like the viewing won't be that far off now. I'm expecting either June or July. |
astroprogsFeb 13, 2017 6:02 AM
| I saw a while ago that apparently, the Heaven's Feel movie may be out on 30th September :D |
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Nyarlathothep said: I saw a while ago that apparently, the Heaven's Feel movie may be out on 30th September :D I'm crying in corner because i would be able to watch it most likely half a year after that date :/  |
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| Yup, September 30th it is. Yet another twist from Nasu, 2018 was the year of Fate all along :p Swagernator said: Nyarlathothep said: I saw a while ago that apparently, the Heaven's Feel movie may be out on 30th September :D I'm crying in corner because i would be able to watch it most likely half a year after that date :/ I waited for the Persona 3 movies to release all its parts from June 2012 to January 2016 and the wait turned out surprisingly well for me. I mean, losing 2/3rds of body weight and all of my hair is normal, right? |
astroprogsFeb 19, 2017 4:09 AM
| How about waiting for all 3 movies to be out before watching it, so that we can watch it all at once? xD |
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| We survived FHA's translation, Ufotable animating any FSN, HF announcement.... This is nothing. |
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