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Feb 12, 2009 2:37 PM
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Feb 12, 2009 2:42 PM
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Feb 12, 2009 2:45 PM
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Feb 12, 2009 2:49 PM
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@FreedomWings: So... you want more than 5? eto... I don't know now ;_; |
Feb 12, 2009 2:50 PM
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Feb 12, 2009 3:00 PM
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Feb 12, 2009 3:08 PM
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Mar 17, 2009 12:19 PM
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I've been wondering: What's the possibility of us being able to snag a few extra pixels on height? I know you changed it so that it would be within regulation of the MAL rules, but I don't think very many people are actually using them on the forums except for a very select few. The reason I ask is because I've had a handful of images/renders that I really liked, but in order to get all the parts I wanted into the sig required way too much downsizing(to the point where it looked really bad), so it would be amazing if we could get that bumped up to 140ish pixel again. ♥ |
Mar 22, 2009 9:46 AM
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Sep 15, 2009 1:35 AM
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I dont even know if this is the right place to say this or not, but I'm gonna just say it anyway. Somebody mentioned tutorials. This would be a good thing. Because I notice there are lot of sigs in our monthly competition that I wouldn't even consider GFX. I mean some of them look to me just like regular MAL sigs without the update part. Since I'm AR member...I see a lot of amazing GFX sigs there. These are just some of the SOTW winers. If we can bring the competition to this level that would be great, this way we have half leveled results :( ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Sep 15, 2009 8:08 AM
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@Meri: Now that's what I call GFX Sigs *w*d But we have two tutorials at the front club page... And I know how you feel~ but, if I'm going to disqualify everything that's not GFX then I wouldn't have enough entries to do the contest... and I would be some kind of god who qualifies and disqualifies who I want... That level would make the this competition a Real competition, if you know what I mean~ And... I don't have a solution >.< |
Sep 15, 2009 1:42 PM
#13
What is not stated, but implied about your definition of a graphics sig is that it relies heavily on c4ds and brushes. It really didn't sink in for me what you were expecting from entries till the 2nd time entered and I looked at your comments and the type of selections you picked. This is especially confusing to others when you look at the past months winners who aren't classified as gfx sigs under your definition. "That level would make the this competition a Real competition, if you know what I mean~" It's not hard to make gfx when you rely on c4ds and brushes... Those things were made with the purpose of making your graphics easy mode in the first place. |
Sep 15, 2009 11:32 PM
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@Moony Sorry, I haven't seen those tuts ^^'' My bad :) I agree, you shouldn't disqualify entries, but it would be good if people could become more aware what a gfx sig is. I don't know how to do this do. >_< It's just that the level of some of the entries is really bad. It looks like some people just take a pic, crop it, make a few modifications and that's it. mal_0702 said: It's not hard to make gfx when you rely on c4ds and brushes... Those things were made with the purpose of making your graphics easy mode in the first place. I'm sorry but I cant believe you actually just said that O__O Of course it's hard. It takes skill. We are not talking about just slapping some C4D on your render and voila you have yourself a gfx sig. And yes GFX are all about brushes, C4Ds, lighting, depth, selective coloring etc. I think if we had a set render for one of the next themes, I think that would be a good way to actually see some skill or lack of it. |
Sep 16, 2009 3:27 AM
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I may have offended some people. Sorry about that. I was responding to the particular statement that was made in regards to real competition. I believe that sort of statement to be saying "this particular style is better than all the rest". You have your valid points and mostly it's just not painfully obvious at first that you wanted a particular style. If you're good, your piece would usually stand out from 20 or so entries regardless of what style you chose, so I'm not trying to criticize that at all. Sorry if it seemed like I patronized your work, that's not the case. I'm a guy so I tend to put my foot in my mouth alot. I would also like to point out that even though the website does hint at the style that this competition was intended to judge, it is not very clear. It simply tells you you have to cut out a render and make a background from scratch using whatever available tools. From the past 8 months of signature winners, precedence indicates that the style is also not strictly adhered to. This is why it is confusing for people entering the contest. If this point is made absolutely clear, I think that the entries will rise to meet the level of competition you are asking for. TLDR version: I made a jackass comment. I apologize to Moony and the rest of the contestants who understood clearly what this competition is about. |
perspectiveSep 16, 2009 4:57 AM
Sep 16, 2009 6:30 PM
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I'd totally suport having tutorials...But, I don't really see many people who have gfx sigs around here, most of them have the one with updates and such. I'd write on emyself, if I wasn't a total noob..>_> @Meri: Totally agree with the set render theme, I've also seen themes in which there's special limitations like no focal allowed or all brushes, no C4Ds and such n such. And, those sigs make me cry cuz they're so much better than mine.. |
Sep 17, 2009 1:19 AM
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@-Shio there are two tuts on the club page as Moony said. I missed them too. I think maybe a thread for those would be a good idea and people could contribute too. As far as the set render them is concerned, I think that would be a great challenge and worth doing. lol yeah, the are pretty good ^^ |
Sep 17, 2009 5:02 PM
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Meri said: @-Shio there are two tuts on the club page as Moony said. I missed them too. I think maybe a thread for those would be a good idea and people could contribute too. What tuts? I can't see them... The only problem is, they're aren't as many gfx sig makers as the other kinds. |
Sep 17, 2009 5:03 PM
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Maybe a thread for critique. People can show off their latest work to gain feedback and help them to learn. Of course I'm not talking about one's that will actually be submitted. |
Sep 17, 2009 5:11 PM
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mal_0702 said: Maybe a thread for critique. People can show off their latest work to gain feedback and help them to learn. Of course I'm not talking about one's that will actually be submitted. Wait, don't we already have one of those? http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=4410 |
Sep 17, 2009 5:12 PM
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That's for all signatures and mostly MAL signatures. I mean specifically a thread for gfx work since this is a gfx club. |
Sep 17, 2009 5:15 PM
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mal_0702 said: That's for all signatures and mostly MAL signatures. I mean specifically a thread for gfx work since this is a gfx club. Oh yeah, then that could work. I think the rules should be clearer as well, because like you said, there are some people who enter without a gfx sig, it's more like an mal sig minus the updates. |
Sep 17, 2009 11:28 PM
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-Shio said: Meri said: @-Shio there are two tuts on the club page as Moony said. I missed them too. I think maybe a thread for those would be a good idea and people could contribute too. What tuts? I can't see them... The only problem is, they're aren't as many gfx sig makers as the other kinds. Here they are: http://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=21631 http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu264/ecatos-/01tut.jpg |
Sep 18, 2009 4:36 AM
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Sep 18, 2009 6:35 AM
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Ok, just finished reading the comments so far... I agree with the set render^^ I'll bet that only a few people will participate *hihi* this way is flawless :3 About the tutorials... I'm going to do a thread only for tutorials and another to show the results and/or experience sigs~ And I admit that I really need to evolute my work and skills -_- I'm pretty crappy lately... Meri said: It's just that the level of some of the entries is really bad. It looks like some people just take a pic, crop it, make a few modifications and that's it. I feel that you understand my feelings <3 I hate when people do that and win the first place only because they used a beautiful and lovely image >.> I'll do anything to change that and change this challenge into a real GFX Sig contest... but for that, I need help and ideas... I'm counting on you guys!~ |
MoonySep 18, 2009 6:42 AM
Sep 18, 2009 7:25 AM
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Meri said: Here they are: http://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=21631 http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu264/ecatos-/01tut.jpg Those two are nice looking. Moony said: Meri said: It's just that the level of some of the entries is really bad. It looks like some people just take a pic, crop it, make a few modifications and that's it. I feel that you understand my feelings <3 I hate when people do that and win the first place only because they used a beautiful and lovely image >.> I'll do anything to change that and change this challenge into a real GFX Sig contest... but for that, I need help and ideas... I'm counting on you guys!~ Yeah, this is pretty annopying actually, how bout hanging the rules so that we have to have brushes, or C4Ds in order for it to count. |
Sep 19, 2009 8:38 AM
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Moony said: Meri said: It's just that the level of some of the entries is really bad. It looks like some people just take a pic, crop it, make a few modifications and that's it. I feel that you understand my feelings <3 I hate when people do that and win the first place only because they used a beautiful and lovely image >.> I'll do anything to change that and change this challenge into a real GFX Sig contest... but for that, I need help and ideas... I'm counting on you guys!~ I couldn't agree more with you. Some of the previous sig winners weren't exactly gfx. But at least we're doing something about it ^^ This set render will hopefully make some changes with that ;) |
Sep 20, 2009 7:30 AM
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-Shio said: Yeah, this is pretty annoying actually, how bout hanging the rules so that we have to have brushes, or C4Ds in order for it to count. I think that to be a GFX Sig Contest people should know that the entry must have C4DS and brushes... that would be common sense... but I guess I can add that to the rules <3 thanks^^ |
Oct 18, 2009 2:58 PM
#29
I disagree with must having C4D's... O_< But I think brushes is a pretty good standard to go by - it's almost impossible to avoid that one. |
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Oct 18, 2009 3:29 PM
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I also have to disagree with must have c4d and brushes aren't always necessary as well, it's often used, but by no means should it be a rule to use that you have to use them. Just because many people tend to use those resources very frequently has it nothing to do with the definition of gfx. Using those is just one way/style. |
Oct 18, 2009 3:32 PM
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Oct 18, 2009 3:51 PM
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Moony said: Ok it isn't necessary to have c4d's... but brushes are essential *I think* But without this, anyone could do "gfx" sigs! I don't get it x.x this way we go to the start point where I pick one image, do some stripes and there it is, a gfx sig! Not >_> Brushes are necessary, huh. So I can't just make something by cropping images and render motives from something, paste it together, arrange it, apply borders, shadows and distortions/blurs/reflections on these, make a font, think of a text/keyword/whatever, also arrange/borderize/etc. these, make light, shadow and color blending layers and craft a border for the whole sig. This was just an example of how I sometimes make a signature. Not even once in that process did I use a single brush (except if you of course count the normal pencil tool) but heck yes I did made a gfx signatures (at least in my eyes). |
Oct 18, 2009 3:59 PM
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Have to agree with Mathes. I think we need a more complex rule for dismissing cropped images. If I understood it correctly, the problem is people just croping an image and submitting it? So what about a rule that says "If you didn't use a render for your sig, at least 2 different kind of effects are requierd for your entry to be valid. (These effects can be anything from brushes to coloring or layer blending)" I think this way we can get rid of the cropping problem. Sure it will take more time to judge the entries and post the nomination round doh... |
Oct 18, 2009 4:02 PM
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SunyiNyufi said: So what about a rule that says "If you didn't use a render for your sig, at least 2 different kind of effects are requierd for your entry to be valid. (These effects can be anything from brushes to coloring or layer blending)" This is an excellent idea. I have to confess that the first time I entered I just did a crop with some minimal effects >.> if you specified that we had to use a render or a certain amount of effects I think it would clear up some of the confusion and result in more creative entries :3 |
Oct 18, 2009 4:36 PM
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That is actually not a bad idea, I have to agree. Though that rule could only be seen as some kind of encouragement, since that rule is no clear border and deciding who to accept and who to decline with it would be quite a difficult task. Personally I'm not for creating any rule regarding that, since I don't remember an entry like that ever getting many votes, so it's kind of unnecessary. Especially since most people that vote in this kind of contest work with graphics themselves, so they often can see what required more and what less time/skill to create. |
Oct 18, 2009 4:44 PM
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Oct 19, 2009 12:44 AM
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This is why I always hesitate to enter. Wall of text : First of all, I don't get why the non-c4dbrushetc users are suddenly so defensive about their works. I mean, it's not like only those sigs have won in the past competitions or rather they have never won before (first place at least) so why is everyone going "we must make sigs to counter those elitist gfx-ers and ask all our friends to vote for us*!!". Looking back, the number of [crop,paste,text,border,brush**,adjustment layers,etc,not necessarily in that order] have always outnumbered the so called "pure" gfx sigs. My first time entering (TTGL theme, the competition's debut) I submitted a cross between, uh, let's call it X for the sigs without c4d usage and the likes and Y for the one that uses it, X and Y. It was bad, I admit it, in both terms, lol. But, apparently, from my own deduction, voters preferred X to Y (some Ys still prevailed, though). So I was torn between satisfying the crowd and following the rules set by Moony, where she prefers Ys to Xs. So I did something in between. Then came along the problem in asterisk 1. Because I'm such an ignorant person***, I didn't knew it existed. Anyways, *1 caused most of the Ys I know to leave, or stopped participating. Maybe they just didn't have time anymore, idk. And I was kind of disappointed, that the competition was rigged or sort, so I stopped too. Kinda makes me feel that Ys are unwanted. :< But I still voted though, up to a point. And that marks the start of the Great Anonymous Voting Plan. I'll skip the more recent ones, since I neither participated or voted in any of them mainly because I didn't have the time to. Then the last one before tech, elements I think, I saw the winnesr and thought "wow, Y sigs actually won" and figured I might finally have a chance to even get into the finals now, haha. So I entered tech on a whim, just to contribute to the amount of Y sigs and actually got second place. D: A big Thank You to whoever that voted for me, really appreciate it! Also congratulation to Aerolite, a fellow Y on third. :) And of course Kvakond, who did a fusion of both and stood out from the rest. You made the right side with brushes right? Right? If you told me you did it yourself somehow with the custom shape tools, please kindly show how. I'm really bad at those. :( Um, ok. Let's get back to the main point. Case 1 : Moony wants Y sigs and so does some other members. Case 2 : A group of members say X sigs are also acceptable and it doesn't have to be a Y to be "good". k, so I'll leave out the word in the quotation marks, because it's a pretty sensitive issue and everyone has their own opinions and they're free to express them, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, etc etc. I understand Moony's case, because she had made clear recently, and had tried to in the past, set a margin for acceptable entries, namely Ys. And of course she would be disappointed if it doesn't turn out that way, and she doesn't want to appear all high and mighty by saying "ur entry sux so im kicking u out" by taking the members feelings into considerations. Some might still be new at this, so they wouldn't know about her criteria. And there might be some that know about it, but still don't abide by it, which is obviously what's giving her such a headache. I understand her pain, because I've been in a similar situation before, but that's not important now. mal_0702 said: It is like the equivalent of a Naturalist painter entering into an Urban graffiti art contest. Just a stylistic mismatch. What you are saying is equivalent to... "Let all the naturalist painters enter the graffiti contest because everybody has their own unique style and let the chips fall as they may." ^ sorry lemme quote what you said, thx. Case 3 : Moony made a club/social circle on Urban Graffiti art. She started competition on Urban Graffiti art, she set the rules and she expects to see some cool Urban Graffiti art. But when the entries came in, she was shocked. What's a naturalist painting doing here? She asked the participant about it. And the naturalist painter replied, "What are you talking about? This is obviously an Urban Graffiti art. Are you making fun of my art?". Moony was speechless.She was in despair. She couldn't find the right word to say to naturalist painter.She reached for a noose hanging in mid-air and hung herself. I'm not saying it's bad that the naturalist painter decided to enter an Urban Graffiti art contest, but it's bad to enter with a naturalist painting. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy both naturalism and graffiti but I wouldn't really like it myself if I went to a naturalist painting gallery to see some buffoon displaying his graffiti art there. Sure, the requirements this time was only the Lelouch render and you can do anything with it as long as that poor dead chap is in there. But everyone is forgetting the main idea of the competition, to create an Urban Graffiti art, in our case a Y sig. The thing I don't understand is why the X members suddenly became so defensive. The only thing I can think of is what mal_0702 said, X members are afraid of losing their place here. In fact it's only because he brought it up that I even had that thought. Seriously though, is it that hard to just make an Urban Graffiti art just once, to show the organizer that you respect her and her decision for the competition? SunyiNyufi said: Hello, I'm just passing by, telling people how this contest started and all :3 And it is clearly seen that Moony so enthusiastically said that she is hoping for members to enter sigs like the one in the link provided by aero. Maybe this is the boiling point for Moony, seeing how many ridiculously funny sigs(especially the sandwich and play ball one, I lol'ed so hard when I saw them) entered this time. idk, maybe she's tired of it, that's for herself to say. And no, I honestly do not feel and SRSBIZ in this. if there was any, the funny sigs would have joined the too big for a spoon at the bottom of the page. Or maybe the serious was meant as in Y sigs are serious, so we make X sigs who are more light hearted and make people smile then I have nothing to say on this. And since this is a suggestion thread, I better stick to the topic and post some. #1 X people start posting some Y. #2 Moony to not give a damn about people posting X. #3 Make a seperate competition for X. Or the next theme is "Funny". #4 Moony to abolish the club and the competition altogether. Personally I don't want #4 to happen. :< It's just sad to see something that had been going on for so long get the boot for something so minor. I myself don't care if there's X or Y, like what people have said, as long as you have fun it's all good in the end. And I have fun too, even though I make Ys. And everyone have to agree that seeing the sigs unfold during the nominations round is just one of the many excitements of the competition. And when you see someone made a better one than yours, you'll go "ohshi- that's one awesome sig. ima make better one next time or i should've done better" though the latter two almost never apply to me, since I'm a lazy person and I'll just go admiring the other entries. Y is never necessarily better than X. And vice versa. For example I really LOVE punkvolume1's entry for 2 colours. Only photomanip applied and it looks so beautiful. Yes, I like pretty stuffs. :3 So it all comes down to creativity and how much :EFFORT: you put into your piece. Sure, cropping a nice picture counts in the creativity part, but the effort put into it is less than someone who brushed the thing over and over, erasing, brushing, erasing till he/she gets what she wants. imo there's no need for both side to bash each other, let's co-exist! :D we can just comment on each others work and that's that. I suck at doing Xs, so I do Y, it's that simple. * I'm not pointing any fingers in this. I don't know what you do in MSN nor do I want to, it's your privacy. But if it's true that there are people actually telling someone else "Hey that's mah entry, go vote for meh bra" or "Let's make a bunch of funny entries just to boycott the new system" please don't do that. That just defeats the whole purpose of the GAVP and makes Moony a sad, sad organizer. But rules are meant to be broken! Go back to your hole,you. And idk if the problem already existed before the GAVP, I just assumed it did, refer to *3. ** Yes, stock brushes are still counted as brushes, not only custom brushes made by the community. Most smudgings are done with stock brushes. *** Because I don't frequent the forums, so I have absolutely no idea who's who's friend, who's the local star, who has a cult following and all that jazz. Why? Because the internets scare me. End word : (lol) sorry if shit sounded pretentious, I'm really no good with explaining through words. Just sharing my opinion, that's all. And since you can't sense emotion through the internet, I'll just make it clear that I am in no way angry or being overly sarcastic(mostly my choice of words). If anything, I'm just a bit offended. It just makes me feel totally unwelcome in this one in a month thing that I spend a few hours of my life to be a part in. :< tl;dr : Make a separate competition for the "not-so-serious" sigs, make it the next theme or maybe just a classing like Beginner, Intermediate, Expert and the likes accept any kind of sigs all together and let the majority decide who they think should win like we've been doing all along. I'm kinda against the judging system, first of all it might be biased, and who can claim themselves to be worthy of judging others? I don't. :V Well the decision is all in Moony's hand, and I just hope the best for the club. And hopefully no one goes emo somehow and say "fuck you guys i'm quitting this shit". tl;dr2 : lolwat drama in my gfxclub? do not want. |
Oct 19, 2009 3:27 AM
#38
Ok I've been doing some reading through the club and I really didn't want to get involved anymore but first of all I wanted to say that I find it incredibly rude for people to think that people who aren't into what is supposedly Moony's preference for this club are going around and being defensive about their style. Maybe yeah it turned out that way but just let me point out why I believe it happened that way. This has nothing to do anymore with using Moony's preference or dividing it into something so that everyone's happy. This is all about how this ridiculous division started in the first place I believe. This is all about some people were insisting that REAL GFX are only the ones that strictly apply C4D and brushes. Without these they aren't gfx anymore. I believe this was the main reason that offended those who don't apply these techniques. Because I don't think it's for anyone to decide on the general scale which are real gfx or not. To be very honest I highly believe that this situation could have gone very smoothly if Moony simply pointed out that she originally wanted this challenge to be involving elements such as brushes and c4d strictly not because like many others she believes these to belong to REAL GFX but simply because this has been her original idea. I'm pretty much sure that those who dont apply c4d/brushes would have taken this whole scenario much better that way. |
-Angel-Oct 19, 2009 3:36 AM
Oct 19, 2009 3:42 AM
#39
lostmymusings said: "Hey that's mah entry, go vote for meh bra" or "Let's make a bunch of funny entries just to boycott the new system" please don't do that. Never ever happend. I know it's hard to believe, but really never happend. I addmitt that these last entries of us ended up being comical, but it wasn't for boycott, it was just rather a bit of a protest. We never really expected those entries to win (and I'm pretty sure they won't win anyway). And well, yeah... this: -Angel- said: To be very honest I highly believe that this situation could have gone very smoothly if Moony simply pointed out that she originally wanted this challenge to be involving elements such as brushes and c4d strictly not because like many others she believes these to belong to REAL GFX but simply because this has been her original idea. I'm pretty much sure that those who dont apply c4d/brushes would have taken this whole scenario much better that way. But you know what? I don't really care so much anymore, but I really would like it, if Moony decided which way to got, cos you obviously can't go both. |
Oct 19, 2009 8:06 AM
#40
-Angel- said: Ok I've been doing some reading through the club and I really didn't want to get involved anymore but first of all I wanted to say that I find it incredibly rude for people to think that people who aren't into what is supposedly Moony's preference for this club are going around and being defensive about their style. Maybe yeah it turned out that way but just let me point out why I believe it happened that way. This has nothing to do anymore with using Moony's preference or dividing it into something so that everyone's happy. This is all about how this ridiculous division started in the first place I believe. This is all about some people were insisting that REAL GFX are only the ones that strictly apply C4D and brushes. Without these they aren't gfx anymore. I believe this was the main reason that offended those who don't apply these techniques. Because I don't think it's for anyone to decide on the general scale which are real gfx or not. To be very honest I highly believe that this situation could have gone very smoothly if Moony simply pointed out that she originally wanted this challenge to be involving elements such as brushes and c4d strictly not because like many others she believes these to belong to REAL GFX but simply because this has been her original idea. I'm pretty much sure that those who dont apply c4d/brushes would have taken this whole scenario much better that way. You shouldn't take it to insult. I don't think what she meant by gfx signatures is as ambiguous as you make it out to be. Google gfx signatures and hit your images tab. All you'll see for search results are the ones that use c4ds and such. It shouldn't insult you that a common internet expression for a particular style of art is also used as an abbreviation for graphics. It makes things confusing. So I can see how people can be confused, but there is evidence to support what moony's intentions were. The whole "Real Gfx Sig" thing actually bothered me quite a bit too and if you look at the past threads, I actually addressed this issue about a month or two ago. It became apparent rather quickly that this would become an issue for others as well. But after I talked with meri about it, I kinda realized I was insulting her by saying that the gfx style was some oversimplified type of art a 3 year old could do. It actually takes some skill and practice to do it well, so I figured it wouldn't be so bad to be open minded about it and try to learn something new. Maybe I was initially upset because someone insulted my pride by saying my own art style wasn't an acceptable form for for the contests, and maybe I was upset because I didn't have the definition of gfx signature straight (and I hate being wrong). Most of you are just now catching up to this point. Anyway, I am pretty much in line with Nyufi's thoughts, I don't care either way how this thing ends, let us just resolve the issue and move forward. Either we can have an inclusive or exclusive system for our contests and we need to have moony put her foot down and decide which is best overall for the MAL community. No more "internet is serious business" anymore for me, this debate is getting old fast. |
Oct 19, 2009 8:18 AM
#41
@mal_0702 Yes it is confusing but only because Google images says so doesn't mean that that is it. You just said it yourself it could be interpreted in various ways and that's exactly how I see it myself. And that all burns down to one thing, it's not what Moony decides to do for this club, but it's all about this insisting on what is REAL GFX which caused this whole outbreak. When i pointed that out I never said anything like Moony having no right whatsoever on what she will do in this club. It's entirely up to her after all and that's completely respected. I only pointed out why I think this whole division happened to begin with and I hope that it's clear. |
Oct 19, 2009 8:20 AM
#42
Crystal clear. I can agree with you on that point. It's definitely the choice of words that got me upset in the beginning also. |
Oct 19, 2009 8:21 AM
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Oct 19, 2009 3:00 PM
#44
Ok, just finished reading all this and I'm going to make a decision! it's not really a decision because what I'm going to do is what I've been trying to do since ever I suggested this competition. I agree with lostmymusings. In every point! but! I've always had the intention to do "Y" signatures not "X" signatures so... why not one of the "X" creators do a club for "X" signatures? These are some examples of what a gfx sig is and what I want for this competition: These are not examples! They ARE Gfx Signatures! This kind, this type, this work, this effort, yes! it is called gfx signatures and I don't think this is that hard to understand. Of curse there are easy / medium / hard / expert gfx makers but this is the pattern I'm looking for! So, when I say "real gfx sigs" I am not offending the other entries/styles wtv I'm just making a line between normal signatures and this kind of signatures. And I continue to think that to make these things, brushes are essential ! If you don't use them you'll end up having a signature with no notable effects... Anyway, this is what I'm aiming for since ever and this is what I'm still fighting for. |
MoonyOct 19, 2009 3:03 PM
Oct 19, 2009 3:10 PM
#45
Moony said: You know, since you deny their entries being sigs mad with graphical effect (gfx in short :P), it's still kind of rude ^^'o, when I say "real gfx sigs" I am not offending the other entries/styles wtv I'm just making a line between normal signatures and this kind of signatures. Well anyway, thanks for being clear, I guess we can stop arguing now... [Narration]And so the peaceful days returned once again to the GFX Sig Club.[/Narration] |
Oct 19, 2009 3:39 PM
#46
@SunyiNyufi: I learned that "being rude" is the only way to make people read and understand what I want in this club. Anyway... it's been almost a year and still nobody knew what I really wanted! When I suggested this, aero even gave examples! I don't get it! And I didn't deny their entries! Just said that good and real gfx sigs are showing up! It's the same thing as saying to beginners that their work is still not as good as the expert, hard ans good ones are. Oh well... everyone should listen to that and try to do better next time *Didn't happen! Decided to act as a bunch of spoiled kids* I'm just done with this! I don't care anymore. I'm going to do it as always, try to do a few changes and that's it~ |
Oct 19, 2009 3:51 PM
#47
Okay, I started to write something here three times, but in the end decided against it, cos arguing anymore is really pointless, so I don't even feel like explaining why we acted "like spoiled kids". One last thing: I think, it would have been better to deny entries not muching the style you wanted to begin with... imho that is. |
Oct 19, 2009 4:13 PM
#48
Oct 19, 2009 5:41 PM
#49
Moony said: These are not examples! They ARE Gfx Signatures! This kind, this type, this work, this effort, yes! it is called gfx signatures and I don't think this is that hard to understand. Of curse there are easy / medium / hard / expert gfx makers but this is the pattern I'm looking for! So, when I say "real gfx sigs" I am not offending the other entries/styles wtv I'm just making a line between normal signatures and this kind of signatures. And I continue to think that to make these things, brushes are essential ! If you don't use them you'll end up having a signature with no notable effects... Anyway, this is what I'm aiming for since ever and this is what I'm still fighting for. No one ever pointed out that they aren't GFX. Moony said: @SunyiNyufi: I learned that "being rude" is the only way to make people read and understand what I want in this club. Anyway... it's been almost a year and still nobody knew what I really wanted! When I suggested this, aero even gave examples! I don't get it! And I didn't deny their entries! Just said that good and real gfx sigs are showing up! It's the same thing as saying to beginners that their work is still not as good as the expert, hard ans good ones are. Oh well... everyone should listen to that and try to do better next time *Didn't happen! Decided to act as a bunch of spoiled kids* I'm just done with this! I don't care anymore. I'm going to do it as always, try to do a few changes and that's it~ You know you don't have to be rude to everyone. And I do believe that if you apply that to every single individual only because you feel like this is how it works, then good for you but this kind of mentality will definitely backfire on you one day. You call others spoiled kids? I wouldn't be saying that if you're acting like one yourself obviously. Just to let you know the people you're considering spoiled brats, are the ones that honestly vote all the time. Because we believe in fair contests, I used to manage the Profiles Club myself and I never liked popularity voting. And only because we protested like once since we got offended by your choice of words we are already some evil bunch of spoiled brats. But you never looked at how and why this all happened to begin with didn't you? It's all just our fault because you decided to be rude to begin with so it's excusable. Anyway, I already said that it's entirely up to you on what you will do with this club. But that doesn't mean that you can just offend people only because you don't consider what you said as offensive. I'm outta here. Thinking that I even tried to point out that this was all just a misunderstanding, and all you get is the same result. PS: I'm removing my nomination vote. Because I was judged for something that I'm not from people who practically no NOTHING about me. |
-Angel-Oct 19, 2009 5:45 PM
Oct 19, 2009 6:08 PM
#50
SunyiNyufi said: [Narration]And so the peaceful days returned once again to the GFX Sig Club.[/Narration] That didn't last very long... lol. |
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