Why do Oda and Toei sexualize a little girl so much?

MoimoiWa said:
Because everything gets sexualized in this show.

Yes you could consider it weird but they are not actually sexualizing her 0-12 year old form. If anything I think this is one of the better depictions of someone her age in anime (in the flashbacks at least, outside being a pirate captain at age 10). No panty shots, no weird semi thirsty/blush for no reason looks, has an actual varied voice, no loli tropes. Just a child having fun.

Does her adult form in the bodysuit look absurd? Yep it's pretty weird. But it's also a retcon/her actual adult form.

I honestly don't give a crap. I think her design is completely overkill and the anime has being goin full gungho since dress rosa with the chest sizes. But actually worrying about it is some typical 2025 nonsense. People find it disturbing because everyone wants to find everything disturbing. Let's not act like anime hasnt been doing this since day 1. I am more worried about shows like fireforce where the girls sole purpose is getting stripped.

MoimoiWa said:
@Loaf_dontcare I like the coping mechanism you got going.

Yes, its not an official retcon. But anyone with half a brain can see its a retcon. Yes the flashbacks were great but the whole idea behind it is extremely forced (like a lot of things since wano)

Oh wait, i forgot ''oda cant do wrong''

iweebz said:
Pixels on your screen don't have an age.

Leon888 said:
I find it disgusting how they sexualize a character like Bonney so much, even though she turns out to be just a 12-year-old girl. What's wrong with these guys? Because there's no logical reason to show so much fanservice on this character, and the fact that she's depicted as a child makes me find it quite disturbing.

ratfakar said:
it's not oda who sexualize it...he draws normally...toei gives it steroids and make it unbelievably gross

Sverkell said:

Oda supported Nobuhiro Watsuki on Rurouni Kenshin's 30th anniversary, you shouldn't be surprised atp.

Weebthedweeb said:
I can’t believe Mfs are defending this , it’s so weird sexualising a 12 year old but the one piece glazers are defending it

Sifer878 said:
Crazy how yall say “your weird so what if she’s 30 she looks so short ” to “you’re weird so why if she looks like a grown woman she’s a kid” please stfu and stop interacting

mentallycoded said:
that's a physical grown ass women u people complain about anything "um she's 4 years old' meanwhile it's a strong busty fighter

AwokenStroken said:
because it's japanese, sexualizing minors is in all their media.

Sverkell said:

Oda supported Nobuhiro Watsuki on Rurouni Kenshin's 30th anniversary, you shouldn't be surprised atp.

Deviiilchan said:
cry about it, it's just a character. Fanservice happens in a lot of shows, but no one is forcing u to watch something you're so clearly uncomfortable with.

MoimoiWa said:
@giingfreaks meantime they keep it to fiction while girls in the US are sexualizing themselves 24/7 irl. Like don't get me wrong there is stuff like underage idols but if we really compare the amount of sexualization then the west is way worse

" But but have you seen the female school outfits they all have skirts. "

Yeah that's clearly much worse than all the semi nudity going on in the West. Japan certainly has some issues but it's funny how Western woke folks always overreact to fiction while ignoring all the real life problems in their own country. Not to mention all the skin tight outfits in western fiction

strikeee said:

it's mandatory u fkn loser

MoimoiWa said:
@giingfreaks So we went from JP being weird, to their weirdness reflecting in manga/anime, to it only being an anime/manga problem. Got it

Also it's a bit hard to call it a problem just because some people in the west decided to babyrage about everything.

That's not to say that there's never any weirdness (looking at you pure loli shows) but honestly calling it a problem is kind of laughable. Everyone has this obsession with protecting minors nowadays to the point that they lost sight of reality.

Is the ridiculous fan service a bit cringe, even more if it brings down the quality of the show? Yes ( i mean, what are those k cup boobs on everyone, bonney looks stupid). Is it annoying when female characters are introduced simply for the sake of ripping of their clothing in mainstream shounen? Yes, 100%. Is it gonna affect you or anyone in real life by any means? (unlike the irl nonsense in the west) No, its not. And if you think it is then you yourself might be the problem.

Again don't get me wrong, I pretty much avoid most fanservice shows because I'm not really a fan of them. But we're still talking about a medium that's mostly meant for a younger audience (regardless of how old the fanbase is now). Its not about making ''hot minors''. It's about making the FICTIONAL characters in their manga, meant for younger people hot.

(theres limits tho, shows like Astarotte no Omocha/komodo no jikan go a bit 2 fur)

ps: uzaki chan has already proven that people just don't like boobs/the only real problem is forsaking story for fanservice
pss: i don't wanna defend oda, i think he's overrated, but he's not ''sexualizing the child''.


Hell, i dont even like defending this topic cause the FS in OP is goin overboard but im soooooooooo tired of people babyraging w/o logic.