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Mar 19, 2024 1:51 PM
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Wow, the cuts are beautiful and I’m so mad that MAPPA rushed the entirety of the Shibuya Incident arc. I suggest you guys to check out some of the sakuga and new scenes because they make the episode so much better. Hopefully season 3 is not rushed 🤞
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Mar 19, 2024 2:03 PM
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I've seen the CAM rips and Miso wasn't lying about the new and refined cuts 🙏😭 we're blessed for real. The background animation and new cuts from people like Zhang.. Too good


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Mar 19, 2024 2:12 PM
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And people still unironically say Shibuya was "bad," it was "butchered," it was "a joke." Lol. Just lol.
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Mar 19, 2024 2:16 PM
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I finally understand what they meant by only 30% of the original vision now. This is actually one of the greatest fight scenes I’ve ever seen. Definitely buying the full blu-ray when it comes out.
Mar 19, 2024 2:29 PM
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Jailed said:
Wow, the cuts are beautiful and I’m so mad that MAPPA rushed the entirety of the Shibuya Incident arc. I suggest you guys to check out some of the sakuga and new scenes because they make the episode so much better. Hopefully season 3 is not rushed 🤞

I just took a look at the revamped fight, obviously I couldn’t notice every difference it’s been a while since I watched s2 ep 17 but I noticed a big difference towards the end with Sukuna’s flame arrow it looked far better
Mar 19, 2024 2:46 PM
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Probably the best animated fight I’ve ever seen. If only MAPPA gave them the time do do this while it was airing. 😩

Mar 19, 2024 4:44 PM
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My god the Hakuyu Go team came back!!!! We don't deserve it, neither does MAPPA; but I am so grateful. Thank you so much!!
Mar 19, 2024 5:28 PM
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PEAK, best episode of anime of all time
Mar 19, 2024 6:11 PM
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I watched it on buddy's discord stream. Holy shit this is greatest episode to ever exist. I was genuinely not prepared for this
Mar 19, 2024 6:54 PM
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they cooked so hard
Mar 19, 2024 8:34 PM
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I'll have to rewatch the original when this version is properly released, but judging from what I could see there was a lot more detail in the Mahoraga design, which was noticeably lacking in the original (I don't blame the animator, I blame the production committee & the higher ups at MAPPA). Before Mahoraga looked like he was drawn by a child, now that the animator/s were given time to cook it looks 1000x better.
Mar 19, 2024 9:53 PM

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I'll have to rewatch the original when this version is properly released, but judging from what I could see there was a lot more detail in the Mahoraga design, which was noticeably lacking in the original (I don't blame the animator, I blame the production committee & the higher ups at MAPPA). Before Mahoraga looked like he was drawn by a child, now that the animator/s were given time to cook it looks 1000x better.
@Remrin On top of cleaning up art and adding new cuts, they added a ton of frames to incomplete cuts. When you rewatch it see how different the fire arrow scene is.
Mar 20, 2024 1:15 AM

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Frieren's episode 26 already lost its best animated episode of the year title wtf
Mar 20, 2024 1:33 AM
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sukuna goat not soykuna anymore

Mar 20, 2024 7:58 AM

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I saw the extended fight of sukuna vs mahoraga and I don't think I saw an improvement. It looked the same, just extended.
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Mar 20, 2024 8:41 AM
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Now I wish streaming sites would add the damn bluray versions to their sites :')
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Mar 20, 2024 11:46 AM

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I saw the extended fight of sukuna vs mahoraga and I don't think I saw an improvement. It looked the same, just extended.
@FZREMAKE

You should get your eyes checked then. This is objectively better than the original version and one of the best fights ever.

Mar 20, 2024 12:38 PM

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@FZREMAKE

You should get your eyes checked then. This is objectively better than the original version and one of the best fights ever.
@TsukuyomiREKT Nah the improvement was minimal and the extended part still looked a bit raw (at least it was a bit more consistent with its style). People calling this good are the same people who used to shit on Apocrypha and early Black clover's animation for fights that lack details and can't be followed easily.
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Mar 20, 2024 1:22 PM

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@TsukuyomiREKT Nah the improvement was minimal and the extended part still looked a bit raw (at least it was a bit more consistent with its style). People calling this good are the same people who used to shit on Apocrypha and early Black clover's animation for fights that lack details and can't be followed easily.
@FZREMAKE It was sure as hell not "minimal" lmao
Mar 20, 2024 1:29 PM

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@FZREMAKE It was sure as hell not "minimal" lmao
@Oongbuh it sure wasn't a huge improvement either. I am happy that they extended the fight and all the additional parts were great but the animation looked the same.
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Mar 20, 2024 4:40 PM
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FZREMAKE said:
I saw the extended fight of sukuna vs mahoraga and I don't think I saw an improvement. It looked the same, just extended.

Now I can take a bad anime take, but your take is just objectively wrong.
Mar 20, 2024 5:21 PM

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FZREMAKE said:
I saw the extended fight of sukuna vs mahoraga and I don't think I saw an improvement. It looked the same, just extended.

Now I can take a bad anime take, but your take is just objectively wrong.
@Artemis_Furrson You clearly can't take an opinion.
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Mar 21, 2024 1:25 AM
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FZREMAKE said:
I saw the extended fight of sukuna vs mahoraga and I don't think I saw an improvement. It looked the same, just extended.

Bruh what? Did you watch it eyes closed?
Mar 21, 2024 1:35 AM
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@TsukuyomiREKT Nah the improvement was minimal and the extended part still looked a bit raw (at least it was a bit more consistent with its style). People calling this good are the same people who used to shit on Apocrypha and early Black clover's animation for fights that lack details and can't be followed easily.

except one episode. Apocrypha had a very bad schedule. It genuinely was disappointment. As for Black Clover 63, they literally used Gosso LO. Not even genga, they put a colored LO in a TV episode. JJK 2x17 had unfinished genga and incoherent cuts. They were mostly (still some remained) completed with additional cuts. Like 70+ cuts. This is the first time in whole anime industry
Mar 21, 2024 2:03 AM

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FZREMAKE said:
@TsukuyomiREKT Nah the improvement was minimal and the extended part still looked a bit raw (at least it was a bit more consistent with its style). People calling this good are the same people who used to shit on Apocrypha and early Black clover's animation for fights that lack details and can't be followed easily.

except one episode. Apocrypha had a very bad schedule. It genuinely was disappointment. As for Black Clover 63, they literally used Gosso LO. Not even genga, they put a colored LO in a TV episode. JJK 2x17 had unfinished genga and incoherent cuts. They were mostly (still some remained) completed with additional cuts. Like 70+ cuts. This is the first time in whole anime industry
@Anime_Skaddiel Apocrypha had one major disappointing episode and that was the Karna vs Sieg fight. That too because it became unnecessarily hard to follow. Other wise it's style was similar. I don't remember the content of ep 63 but was it when Asta unlocked his demon or something? That was a bit hard to follow too but the Chrono's fight later on was good despite lacking some background details. Also key frames and layouts are important in an anime but being unfinished doesn't spare it from the criticism it gets.
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Mar 21, 2024 12:41 PM

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THANK YOU MAPPA. Now I don't have to argue with people about how bad the TV version is. The blue ray basically fixed 90% of all my complaints, whether its the train scene, or airplane scene. Even the domain effect looks so much better.
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Mar 21, 2024 12:47 PM

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I saw the extended fight of sukuna vs mahoraga and I don't think I saw an improvement. It looked the same, just extended.
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There is a big improvement tbh. I shit on the TV version so many times and aruged with a ton of people about it. The original lacked logic, like how Makora threw a train using one hand and how he ended in the airplane. It just looked like a bunch of random fight being put together. But the blue ray fixed all these problems, and added shades and new anime - original fight scenes that are just really cleverly excuted (like when Sukuna feinted slashes at Makora)

Then, all the details are so much better. Sukuna's domain's effect on buildings and people are done way better. You can see each building getting destroyed 1 by 1, you can see the sparks ; you can see the air bending due to hot heat. Most important, Makora's entire character design sort of changes and the shading just make everything feel more texture. All these were missing in original.

I can definitely understand why they said its 30% intended now, because the new one looks a lot more complete.
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Mar 21, 2024 1:53 PM

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There is a big improvement tbh. I shit on the TV version so many times and aruged with a ton of people about it. The original lacked logic, like how Makora threw a train using one hand and how he ended in the airplane. It just looked like a bunch of random fight being put together. But the blue ray fixed all these problems, and added shades and new anime - original fight scenes that are just really cleverly excuted (like when Sukuna feinted slashes at Makora)

Then, all the details are so much better. Sukuna's domain's effect on buildings and people are done way better. You can see each building getting destroyed 1 by 1, you can see the sparks ; you can see the air bending due to hot heat. Most important, Makora's entire character design sort of changes and the shading just make everything feel more texture. All these were missing in original.

I can definitely understand why they said its 30% intended now, because the new one looks a lot more complete.
@Zimmu I do agree that it isn't the same. There are some improvements here and there but I wouldn't consider it huge. It looked brighter so thats a good thing for the blu ray version (cause the dimming was a big issue in the TV version). The colors looked a bit clean and Sukuna's slashes/cuts made a bit more sense while viewing.
My main point was about the extended scenes. I expected more from it since they had more time now to complete/polish it. I dont care if thats just the animation style, it still looked raw. I am happy we got to see some fresh boxing moves from Mahoraga and some Jojo/Michael Jackson poses from Sukuna but I wont call it a masterpiece animation just for that. It could have been a lot more better (Although I do appreciate that it was slightly more easier to follow).
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Mar 23, 2024 11:42 AM

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@Artemis_Furrson You clearly can't take an opinion.
@FZREMAKE

Your opinion is wrong. Like it's just objectively false. This doesn't come down to personal taste. It IS an improvement.

Mar 23, 2024 1:01 PM
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looked really nice, rewatched the episode the other day with a friend and was talking about how it was unfinished lmao


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Mar 23, 2024 10:06 PM
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omg I feel like I never saw this before and its a new episode in so confused
Mar 23, 2024 10:07 PM
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is it only Episode 17 of season 2 its amazing
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is it only Episode 17 of season 2 its amazing
@ParSo I'm pretty sure most other episodes just had their fighting scenes undimmed and also some minor drawing corrections. This guy goes over the changes in each episode each time their respective blu ray is released but I'm sure that most are minor changes https://www.youtube.com/@boydudereviews/videos
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@ParSo I'm pretty sure most other episodes just had their fighting scenes undimmed and also some minor drawing corrections. This guy goes over the changes in each episode each time their respective blu ray is released but I'm sure that most are minor changes https://www.youtube.com/@boydudereviews/videos

but most of the stuff I swear never happened, plotwise. unless I fell asleep or lost my eisides. maybe that's why the manga was so confusing lol
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@ParSo I'm pretty sure most other episodes just had their fighting scenes undimmed and also some minor drawing corrections. This guy goes over the changes in each episode each time their respective blu ray is released but I'm sure that most are minor changes https://www.youtube.com/@boydudereviews/videos

but most of the stuff I swear never happened, plotwise. unless I fell asleep or lost my eisides. maybe that's why the manga was so confusing lol

nvm its the not revamped version but I'm so co fused when did mahorage get summoned and fight sukuna, I NEVER KNEW CLEAVE AND DISMANTLE BEFORE MANGA
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@ParSo I'm pretty sure most other episodes just had their fighting scenes undimmed and also some minor drawing corrections. This guy goes over the changes in each episode each time their respective blu ray is released but I'm sure that most are minor changes https://www.youtube.com/@boydudereviews/videos

and since when was mahoraga summoned I'm solo confused what
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@ParSo I'm pretty sure most other episodes just had their fighting scenes undimmed and also some minor drawing corrections. This guy goes over the changes in each episode each time their respective blu ray is released but I'm sure that most are minor changes https://www.youtube.com/@boydudereviews/videos

but most of the stuff I swear never happened, plotwise. unless I fell asleep or lost my eisides. maybe that's why the manga was so confusing lol
@ParSo Ye in the TV version of this episode there was just a lot of random animation cuts mashed together. I swear they started fighting in airplanes or trains randomly but in this version it was actually cohesive and you can tell what was going on because the animation is cleaned up. It was way more messy and sloppy in the TV version.
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@ParSo I'm pretty sure most other episodes just had their fighting scenes undimmed and also some minor drawing corrections. This guy goes over the changes in each episode each time their respective blu ray is released but I'm sure that most are minor changes https://www.youtube.com/@boydudereviews/videos

but most of the stuff I swear never happened, plotwise. unless I fell asleep or lost my eisides. maybe that's why the manga was so confusing lol

nvm its the not revamped version but I'm so co fused when did mahorage get summoned and fight sukuna, I NEVER KNEW CLEAVE AND DISMANTLE BEFORE MANGA
@ParSo bro the episode starts of with Mahoraga summoned and then cuts back to the summoning process I believe, just keep watching. How did you not know cleave and dismantle if you watched this though?? 😭
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I'm watching TV version. and I must've skipped 17 or fell asleep like with, o swear I never sawthis
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@ParSo bro the episode starts of with Mahoraga summoned and then cuts back to the summoning process I believe, just keep watching. How did you not know cleave and dismantle if you watched this though?? 😭

cleave and dismantle in old ep isode 17
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@ParSo bro the episode starts of with Mahoraga summoned and then cuts back to the summoning process I believe, just keep watching. How did you not know cleave and dismantle if you watched this though?? 😭

cleave and dismantle in old ep isode 17
@ParSo They are explained in depth when Sukuna does his domain
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@ParSo bro the episode starts of with Mahoraga summoned and then cuts back to the summoning process I believe, just keep watching. How did you not know cleave and dismantle if you watched this though?? 😭

must've skipped I don't remember anything whatsoever about it.just asking can I have a quick recap of episode 16 and 17
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@ParSo They are explained in depth when Sukuna does his domain

in the manga, though
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@ParSo bro the episode starts of with Mahoraga summoned and then cuts back to the summoning process I believe, just keep watching. How did you not know cleave and dismantle if you watched this though?? 😭

must've skipped I don't remember anything whatsoever about it.just asking can I have a quick recap of episode 16 and 17
In ep 16 Toji fights Megumi for a while and then kills himself when he realizes hes his son, and then Sukuna fights Jogo. Both fights have amazing animation and are heavily expanded from the manga version so I recommend watching it and 17.
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@ParSo They are explained in depth when Sukuna does his domain

in the manga, though
@ParSo Nah its explained even in the TV version of 17
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In ep 16 Toji fights Megumi for a while and then kills himself when he realizes hes his son, and then Sukuna fights Jogo. Both fights have amazing animation and are heavily expanded from the manga version so I recommend watching it and 17.

remember the sukuna jogo fight but then why does megumi summon mahoraga against that random human kid
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@ParSo Nah its explained even in the TV version of 17

wtf I thought only in fight with gojo I swear I never saw this what happened in 17 and did they add scenes
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In ep 16 Toji fights Megumi for a while and then kills himself when he realizes hes his son, and then Sukuna fights Jogo. Both fights have amazing animation and are heavily expanded from the manga version so I recommend watching it and 17.

maybe I should rewwtch 16-18 but like I don't wanna caused 1 hour
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prolly lost track of my episode and skipped 17
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In ep 16 Toji fights Megumi for a while and then kills himself when he realizes hes his son, and then Sukuna fights Jogo. Both fights have amazing animation and are heavily expanded from the manga version so I recommend watching it and 17.

remember the sukuna jogo fight but then why does megumi summon mahoraga against that random human kid
@ParSo I think Megumi is very tired after Toji dies, so the blonde guy surprises him and slashes his back. Megumi is seen half dead. After Sukuna finishes his fight with Jogo, we cut to Mahoraga scaring the shit of the blonde guy as the episode ends. Megumi basically summons Mahoraga thinking "If I'm dying then so are you"
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