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Oct 22, 2024 6:26 AM
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MFDOOMED said:
Negative Reinforcement isn't meant to be a temporary thing. It's meant to be there for the rest of your life

Agree to disagree on this one i guess

Too much negative reinforcement is not healthy

Same as too much positive reinforcement is not healthy

There has to be a balance

And what you mention after about suicide and drug abuse proves this point

MFDOOMED said:
The scars left by negative reinforcement often never heal and people cope with the psychic damage in many ways. Toxic relationships. Drugs of the soft and harder variety. Self destructive tendencies. The saddest part of the whole sitch is that most of those people refuse help even when it is offered to them.

Other people have healthier outlets. Some focus on media, like movies, anime, manga. Others use exercise as an outlet. Some people can find solace in religion. NLP is a great tool as well. But none of that stuff fundamentally does anything definitively unless the person actually understands the issues and works to fix them

I can understand that not everyone want's to be helped

But the same way we shouldn't impose change on them if they are not comfortable with it, but we also shouldn't exacerbate their pain

MFDOOMED said:
The best example of that is the difference between Thorfinn and Sosuke. Both of them had horrible experiences as children that led them to be broken in many ways. Only one of them has a meaningful solution that could actually work in the long term and that's Thorfinn

This is true, but what's also true is that Vinland Saga follow's Thorfin's life from childhood to adulthood, where's FMP only follows Sosuke's latere teen years

It's quite normal for people to evolve and see things differently when they enter adulthood compare to when they're teenagers (sure some will more than others)

I also wouldn't call Thorfinn's changes a solution, yes there are things that he learns from and improves on, but there are also things that are a result of that trauma

MFDOOMED said:
Chidori feels like she can put up with Sosuke, but if it was real life and those two ever got into a stable life where life and death situations didn't interrupt the natural flow of a relationship, she is definitely gonna leave Sosuke. Because no matter how much you love a guy, you can only give so much to a guy who isn't doing enough to change in a way you think is acceptable. And we know enough about Sosuke to know that his changes are gradual and slow. In the framework of a romantic action story, their "love" is more based on their respective situations than on anything sustainable. After spending time building an emotional attachment, I don't want Sosuke to unalive himself because his relationship didn't work out

Why does Chidori have to definitely leave him? Why can't she have empathy for him?

I don't think it's fair to say Sosuke's not doing enough when he is giving his all to learn how to live a normal life and develope his social skills, it would be different if he was doing nothing at all to improve himself expecting Chidori to deal with everything, but a mature adult understands that when trauma is involved it takes time and patience to be able to heal and to work on oneself (and i think Chidori will have that maturity when she grows up)

MFDOOMED said:
Side question. How expensive is it to take care of 5 cats. Your bills must be crazy!

xD I'm good at keeping things within budget, but they def eat better than me lol
@DigiCat Relationships based on trauma make for great stories but the don't really work irl. I never said Chidori wouldn't try to make it work. I said she would eventually leave him. Military based marriages don't work well in real life either. A lot of divorce followed by a second or third marriage that may or may not work. In FMP, Sosuke and Chidori are incompatible imo. You need more than attraction and pity/understanding to stay with someone.

A lot of media from cultures around the world really love the Peter Pan syndrome. I would say Japan takes the cake tho. PPS is the idea that the best parts of your life take place in high school. A lot of grown adults buy into the narrative which is why it's the dominant anime genre. I personally prefer a relationship like Keitaro and Eiko from Dark Gathering. As twisted as their relationship is, it's much easier to root for them to stay together. It also helps that they are college students with adult problems. Sorta.

But maybe the novels end with Chidori and Sosuke getting to 60 years old and spending time with their grandchildren in the far future. I certainly would like them to stay together. It's better than the way JK Rowling did the end of Ron and Hermione in Harry Potter. What did Ron do to end up with that kind of fate?

As far as balance, I like it. I practice it. It doesn't get me far. Other people don't and they are much more successful in life. IMO, life isn't about balance, it's about sacrifices. Those people with unbalanced lives sacrifice contentment and mental wellbeing for success. And as much as I want to be judgemental about people that think different from me, I'm only able to live my life of contentment because other people sacrificed stuff for me. Like the animators that sacrifice pay and years of their lives to make us happy in under 30 minute increments.

When I was younger, I tried to help people and elaborate on the need for balance. It took many years and some great teachers to get me to this level of contentment. A lot of my contentment comes from letting other people do them, regardless of whether it's in their best interest or not. It's feels great to help people, but the costs far outweigh the benefits. There is a rapper called Royce da 5'9. He has this verse about how he would rather be crying in a Porsche. I couldn't summarize the things you have to sacrifice better than that guy.

Do you feed your cats Blue Buffalo? When I owned dogs in the past, they never ate their food faster than when they ate Blue Buffalo dog food. Tho according to the internet Blue dog food isn't the best thing for dogs, it seems like their cat food is ok.
MFDOOMEDOct 22, 2024 6:30 AM
Oct 22, 2024 6:48 AM

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@DigiCat Relationships based on trauma make for great stories but the don't really work irl. I never said Chidori wouldn't try to make it work. I said she would eventually leave him. Military based marriages don't work well in real life either. A lot of divorce followed by a second or third marriage that may or may not work. In FMP, Sosuke and Chidori are incompatible imo. You need more than attraction and pity/understanding to stay with someone.

A lot of media from cultures around the world really love the Peter Pan syndrome. I would say Japan takes the cake tho. PPS is the idea that the best parts of your life take place in high school. A lot of grown adults buy into the narrative which is why it's the dominant anime genre. I personally prefer a relationship like Keitaro and Eiko from Dark Gathering. As twisted as their relationship is, it's much easier to root for them to stay together. It also helps that they are college students with adult problems. Sorta.

But maybe the novels end with Chidori and Sosuke getting to 60 years old and spending time with their grandchildren in the far future. I certainly would like them to stay together. It's better than the way JK Rowling did the end of Ron and Hermione in Harry Potter. What did Ron do to end up with that kind of fate?

As far as balance, I like it. I practice it. It doesn't get me far. Other people don't and they are much more successful in life. IMO, life isn't about balance, it's about sacrifices. Those people with unbalanced lives sacrifice contentment and mental wellbeing for success. And as much as I want to be judgemental about people that think different from me, I'm only able to live my life of contentment because other people sacrificed stuff for me. Like the animators that sacrifice pay and years of their lives to make us happy in under 30 minute increments.

When I was younger, I tried to help people and elaborate on the need for balance. It took many years and some great teachers to get me to this level of contentment. A lot of my contentment comes from letting other people do them, regardless of whether it's in their best interest or not. It's feels great to help people, but the costs far outweigh the benefits. There is a rapper called Royce da 5'9. He has this verse about how he would rather be crying in a Porsche. I couldn't summarize the things you have to sacrifice better than that guy.

Do you feed your cats Blue Buffalo? When I owned dogs in the past, they never ate their food faster than when they ate Blue Buffalo dog food. Tho according to the internet Blue dog food isn't the best thing for dogs, it seems like their cat food is ok.
MFDOOMED said:
Relationships based on trauma make for great stories but the don't really work irl. I never said Chidori wouldn't try to make it work. I said she would eventually leave him. Military based marriages don't work well in real life either. A lot of divorce followed by a second or third marriage that may or may not work. In FMP, Sosuke and Chidori are incompatible imo. You need more than attraction and pity/understanding to stay with someone

Thing is though, having trauma doesn't mean your relationship is based on it

I guess agree to disagree on their compatibility

MFDOOMED said:
I personally prefer a relationship like Keitaro and Eiko from Dark Gathering. As twisted as their relationship is, it's much easier to root for them to stay together. It also helps that they are college students with adult problems. Sorta

I haven't watched much of Dark Gathering, but i thought they were in their last year of highschool? (At least the beginning of the series)

MFDOOMED said:
Do you feed your cats Blue Buffalo? When I owned dogs in the past, they never ate their food faster than when they ate Blue Buffalo dog food. Tho according to the internet Blue dog food isn't the best thing for dogs, it seems like their cat food is ok.

Interesting, haven't seen that brand over here, will give it a try if i find it, but they do eat buffalo flavoured catfood xD
Oct 23, 2024 8:40 AM
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MFDOOMED said:
Relationships based on trauma make for great stories but the don't really work irl. I never said Chidori wouldn't try to make it work. I said she would eventually leave him. Military based marriages don't work well in real life either. A lot of divorce followed by a second or third marriage that may or may not work. In FMP, Sosuke and Chidori are incompatible imo. You need more than attraction and pity/understanding to stay with someone

Thing is though, having trauma doesn't mean your relationship is based on it

I guess agree to disagree on their compatibility

MFDOOMED said:
I personally prefer a relationship like Keitaro and Eiko from Dark Gathering. As twisted as their relationship is, it's much easier to root for them to stay together. It also helps that they are college students with adult problems. Sorta

I haven't watched much of Dark Gathering, but i thought they were in their last year of highschool? (At least the beginning of the series)

MFDOOMED said:
Do you feed your cats Blue Buffalo? When I owned dogs in the past, they never ate their food faster than when they ate Blue Buffalo dog food. Tho according to the internet Blue dog food isn't the best thing for dogs, it seems like their cat food is ok.

Interesting, haven't seen that brand over here, will give it a try if i find it, but they do eat buffalo flavoured catfood xD
@DigiCat Dark Gathering is absolutely worth your time, easily one of the top 10 anime of the year it released in. The first episode they talk about their childhood, but the rest of the show takes place with them as adults. If you got bored and took a break, don't worry cuz I did too. Then the show started popping up on all these end of the year best anime lists, so I went back to revisit it.

It does take like 8 episodes to get all foundational stuff out of the way. But from then on, it's pretty much amazing all the way up to the cliffhanger ending. It's probably the anime I'm most looking forward to getting another season of, behind Akatsuki no Yona, Magi, and Dorohedoro. Except this is a newer anime based on a newer manga.

Dark Gathering does a great job encompassing the many ways ladies can live their life. I loved one of the MCs so much, I bumped a character off my favs list to give Yayoi a spot. If you watch the anime, maybe you will too.
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