MFDOOMED said:Negative Reinforcement isn't meant to be a temporary thing. It's meant to be there for the rest of your life
Agree to disagree on this one i guess
Too much negative reinforcement is
not healthy
Same as too much positive reinforcement is
not healthy
There has to be a
balance
And what you mention after about suicide and drug abuse proves this point
MFDOOMED said:The scars left by negative reinforcement often never heal and people cope with the psychic damage in many ways. Toxic relationships. Drugs of the soft and harder variety. Self destructive tendencies. The saddest part of the whole sitch is that most of those people refuse help even when it is offered to them.
Other people have healthier outlets. Some focus on media, like movies, anime, manga. Others use exercise as an outlet. Some people can find solace in religion. NLP is a great tool as well. But none of that stuff fundamentally does anything definitively unless the person actually understands the issues and works to fix them
I can understand that not everyone want's to be helped
But the same way we shouldn't impose change on them if they are not comfortable with it, but we also shouldn't exacerbate their pain
MFDOOMED said:The best example of that is the difference between Thorfinn and Sosuke. Both of them had horrible experiences as children that led them to be broken in many ways. Only one of them has a meaningful solution that could actually work in the long term and that's Thorfinn
This is true, but what's also true is that Vinland Saga follow's Thorfin's life from childhood to adulthood, where's FMP only follows Sosuke's latere teen years
It's quite normal for people to evolve and see things differently when they enter adulthood compare to when they're teenagers (sure some will more than others)
I also wouldn't call Thorfinn's changes a solution, yes there are things that he learns from and improves on, but there are also things that are a result of that trauma
MFDOOMED said:Chidori feels like she can put up with Sosuke, but if it was real life and those two ever got into a stable life where life and death situations didn't interrupt the natural flow of a relationship, she is definitely gonna leave Sosuke. Because no matter how much you love a guy, you can only give so much to a guy who isn't doing enough to change in a way you think is acceptable. And we know enough about Sosuke to know that his changes are gradual and slow. In the framework of a romantic action story, their "love" is more based on their respective situations than on anything sustainable. After spending time building an emotional attachment, I don't want Sosuke to unalive himself because his relationship didn't work out
Why does Chidori have to definitely leave him? Why can't she have empathy for him?
I don't think it's fair to say Sosuke's not doing enough when he is giving his all to learn how to live a normal life and develope his social skills, it would be different if he was doing nothing at all to improve himself expecting Chidori to deal with everything, but a mature adult understands that when trauma is involved it takes time and patience to be able to heal and to work on oneself (and i think Chidori will have that maturity when she grows up)
MFDOOMED said:Side question. How expensive is it to take care of 5 cats. Your bills must be crazy!
xD I'm good at keeping things within budget, but they def eat better than me lol