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Aug 3, 2024 1:29 AM
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The answer's Naruto. I haven't seen it but I've read it. As to why, talk no Jutsu would be too easy of an answer. Dude's just a hella annoying yapper.
@Otaku_4511 u must be out of ur mind, he's one of the most uplifting empathetic protagonists seen to date, even his backstory is deeply emotional and his character progression through the series is nothing short of a masterpiece
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Probably either Tanjiro or Yuji from JJK lmao
@TheRealRouges have u even read the manga till the latest entry? tanjiro is a weak protagonist tho i agree
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@Otaku_4511 u must be out of ur mind, he's one of the most uplifting empathetic protagonists seen to date, even his backstory is deeply emotional and his character progression through the series is nothing short of a masterpiece
@aadil27

Lol, it makes it out like he's the most unfortunate in the world when the average child in the war had 10 times worse of a life..

It attempted to convince viewers that even a nobody could become Hokage, but Naruto wasn't a nobody, he was baby jesus.
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@TheRealRouges have u even read the manga till the latest entry? tanjiro is a weak protagonist tho i agree
@aadil27 yeah I finished Demon Slayer, waste of time, and I'm caught up with JJK, another waste of time
Aug 3, 2024 1:47 AM
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@aadil27 yeah I finished Demon Slayer, waste of time, and I'm caught up with JJK, another waste of time
@TheRealRouges

I'd recommend World Trigger.

While the starting animation is really bad, it improves later on.

If you don't want to go through the bad animation, then I'd recommend reading the manga up until the invasion arc or the second invasion arc.
Aug 3, 2024 2:03 AM

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I would personally say Maomao from Kusuriya no Hitorigoto. There's also the obvious picks like Meliodas or Kirito.

What, really? I never heard about someone who hates Maomao... Why? 😳😭
@Doriss I've written a review for Kusuriya no Hitorigoto, but I will lend you a shorter version of what I generally dislike about Maomao:

- Maomao completely changes everything like no one has ever before, she is absolutely perfect at everything that the anime throws at her; she can cook, she is hardworking, strong both physically and mentally, intelligent, a good cook, an excellent herbalist, good at treating patients, she knocks out an adult woman with a single slap, she can intimidate people with JUST HER EXPRESSION, she is attractive, she is not naïve, she is persuasive, she does not hesitate, she gets whatever she wants, others orbit around her, she is empathetic, she is studious; etc, you probably get the point. She's way too perfect to a point where I can't relate or empathise with her in any way whatsoever.

- She damages the series shes in because, for Maomao to succeed, she HAS to drag other characters down and actively destroy them; if it wasn't due to Maomao, all of the palace would fall in chaos. Hell she even defeats a master tactician and tanks a baton to the face from a guy whos triple her weight. She pulls other characters into a hurricane where Maomao is the center and she degrades the character cast into either:

1. Absolute simps
2. Purely evil scum
3. Absolute idiots

- Generally bland, no introspection whatsoever; very boring overall. Her quirks grow old very rapidly.

- She makes the series a very predictable one due to what I've mentioned, ruining the overall experience even more.

- Her relationship with Jinshi feels very forced. She gets no long-term consequences overall and the show consistently wants her to succeed.

"People who disagree with Maomao are soon disproved or shown by this anime to be ridiculously malicious, unintelligent or excessively inept people; such instances where Maomao believes something and everyone says, with a smug expression of utter disbelief "Nah, I don't think Maomao is right this time" and they don't know that she is always right in one way or another, the author wants to make her shine constantly, but it is such a strong brilliance that it blinds and obscures the other characters completely. It reminds me in some ways of Hollywood films or shows that create female protagonists to feed the hordes hungry for female representation in mainstream media, but instead through ineptitude or corporate malice they create the most boring, stupid and inhuman strong woman stereotype; a protagonist who can never be wrong, who is completely inhuman, devoid of personality or interesting traits, who is good in every way or talent and who ruins the rest of the show by her mere presence; this is Maomao, with her presence she drags the rest of the characters and aspects of this show into a maelstrom in which she is the center and everything else is obliterated."

I'm aware that it is not a popular take, but Kusuriya no Hitorigoto felt terrible to watch because of Maomao, and that's especially bad considering shes the protagonist.
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@TheRealRouges

I'd recommend World Trigger.

While the starting animation is really bad, it improves later on.

If you don't want to go through the bad animation, then I'd recommend reading the manga up until the invasion arc or the second invasion arc.
@Hiimoohiii Yeah, I've been wanting to watch World Trigger for quite some time, will do when I find some spare time
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@zimmu ye I’ve heard that ayanokoji is portrayed better in the light novels than in the anime. I don’t really have much against the anime either, it is quite fun to watch. It’s just that I find it not as good as people say it is (tbh it’s really cringe sometimes, both the anime and the fans). Then again, I don’t really have the best taste in anime (Stuff like Komi san, spy x family, Frieren are in my top 5 lol)
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Asta from Black Clover and Naruto Uzumaki
Aug 3, 2024 2:43 AM
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never watch it but spoilers are everywhere for school days so the mc of that show
Aug 3, 2024 2:58 AM
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Subaru from Re:Zero, Takemitchi comes close though.
@Neterosan Clearly someone who never really got into Re:zero and just completed it half asleep. Yes, he was indeed annoying in the beginning, but his growth later in the seasons is off the charts. Arguably the highest I have seen in a character. He's already one of the best in fantasy, and once S3 arrives, he's gonna be among the best MC of all time.
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I would personally say Maomao from Kusuriya no Hitorigoto. There's also the obvious picks like Meliodas or Kirito.
@Vaixen Wth? Did you even properly watch Apothecary Diaries?! I have never even seen anyone who doesn't even like her. She's easily one of the best female MCs of all time.
Aug 3, 2024 3:04 AM

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@Vaixen Wth? Did you even properly watch Apothecary Diaries?! I have never even seen anyone who doesn't even like her. She's easily one of the best female MCs of all time.
@Styx_Paradise How do you "improperly" watch it? I don't understand honestly, and I heavily disagree with the last part; but we might agree to disagree.
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Rent a girl friend main charcter, he was the worst protagainist
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Tanjiro from Demon Slayer. Not because he's bad but because he's too perfect. Good characters need some imperfections to make them perfect. Perfection in character designing is a big no-no.
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(one of the biggest pussy in anime history)

Thats weird. The theme that the series tried to convey is, "you may be weak, but you can still fight and not give up. " He is a crybaby yet he never gave up to try to save the person he likes and his friends around him, not just Mikey alone. He is weak and can't fight, but he still is the first person to rush during those gangfights. I don't really think you understood the show's message before just deciding to hate on him and call him a pussy who clearly isn't one.

@someguy
He gives the same expression all the time and acts all cool and edgy and I just hate it

This is understandable, but its more due to the anime itself and not the source material. He actually has quite a lot of monologues and isn't emotionless in the LN, but the anime adaptation made him look like he has face paralysis. Overall he feels much more distant in the anime.

@lucas_tong_3133
Takemichi is straight F imo. Bro got no character development throughout the whole series

Not true. He did have char dev and that was in the start of the story when he was a real pussy and had no will to fight. But then later on he decided to step up and accomplish the goals he sets, which meant he developed. I also don't understand why you think this, as he was an anti-social virgin and later on became a "hero" who saved everyone's lives and destiny. Is this not character development in your eyes, or you just didn't care to even understand the series?

Nah bro. He didn’t mature as much and u call that character development when he still can’t fight even till now. He was getting carried by Mikey and dracken throughout the whole show. The only decent moment was when he led Toman against Tenjuku but even still they got pretty beaten till mikey showed up. This shows he can’t do shit on his own. If u say Takemichi have character development is like saying every single anime character would get development at some point even those that showed up an episode and died straight after
@lucas_tong_3133
Character development doesn't mean become a better fighter. According to you, are you saying EVERY NON-FIGHTING ANIME MC have no character development because they don't get better at fighting? In TR, the point was never to make Takemitchy become a better fighter. I think its obvious thats never the author's intention. He is physically weak, but he doesn't give up even if he gets beat so many times, to the point where even the "Strong" characters like Mikey and Draken relies on him and wants him.

If u say Takemichi have character development is like saying every single anime character would get development at some point even those that showed up an episode and died straight after

You are comparing two entirely different things. You think character developement is only when a character learns a new martial arts move which is far from the truth. Takemichy went from a 26 yr loser to eventually becoming a leader in 2 gangs (TR and Black Dragon), all because of his charisma of perseverence and not backing up against strong enemies. But you still call him a pussy and say he has no development. In the beginning of the story, he even wanted to give up, but then after experiencing so many "bad futures", he was determined to save them. Do you not call this character developement?

The only decent moment was when he led Toman against Tenjuku but even still they got pretty beaten till mikey showed up. This shows he can’t do shit on his own

This shows you did not understand the arc at all. Mikey's sister got killed. If it weren't takemichy who led TR to fight Tenjuku, Mikey and Draken would never have arrived to fight, thus TR wouldnt have won against Tenjiku that day. Guess what happens? Takemichy and Naota was already killed in the present so they can't go back, meaning in the future he and his girlfriend would still be killed by Izana. But thank god Takemichy went, so TR eventually won the fight and Kisaki was killed by a truck. So explain to me why you think "he can't do shit on his own"?

You are contradicting everything you say bro. I'v proven why you are wrong to call him a "pussy", and prove to you now why he has character development and can do shit on his own. What other false accusations are you gonna use now?
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@Emp, oh really? I like Gon very much, for me Leorio is the most boring character from HxH ;-;
@Doriss he's okay but the story could have had so much incredible potential from kurapika or killua's perspective as mc
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Damn bro. Must you really debate so much like this. I mean I get your point but u still can’t change the fact that I think takemichi is a bad MC to me no matter how much you are gonna debate. And when the fuck did I say character development is just about fighting? He doesn’t have much glow up moments compared to other main characters and his moment weren’t as satisfying. Even in season 2 he was just another punching bag for the enemies until mikey arrived and wasn’t able to men up on his own. Yes you are right that without him Toman would lose but that is like every single battle shonen so nothing is special. Then if u think Takemichi is not that bad of an MC do u have any worst opinions? If u like every single MC and you are debating why I don’t like one then your convo is meaningless since what you are just trying to proof is Takemichi feats and no matter what mc I dislike you would just try and proof their feats and you just said I don’t understand a show just cause I dislike him. But there are characters that are 100x better than him.
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Zimmu said:
@lucas_tong_3133
Character development doesn't mean become a better fighter. According to you, are you saying EVERY NON-FIGHTING ANIME MC have no character development because they don't get better at fighting? In TR, the point was never to make Takemitchy become a better fighter. I think its obvious thats never the author's intention. He is physically weak, but he doesn't give up even if he gets beat so many times, to the point where even the "Strong" characters like Mikey and Draken relies on him and wants him.

If u say Takemichi have character development is like saying every single anime character would get development at some point even those that showed up an episode and died straight after

You are comparing two entirely different things. You think character developement is only when a character learns a new martial arts move which is far from the truth. Takemichy went from a 26 yr loser to eventually becoming a leader in 2 gangs (TR and Black Dragon), all because of his charisma of perseverence and not backing up against strong enemies. But you still call him a pussy and say he has no development. In the beginning of the story, he even wanted to give up, but then after experiencing so many "bad futures", he was determined to save them. Do you not call this character developement?

The only decent moment was when he led Toman against Tenjuku but even still they got pretty beaten till mikey showed up. This shows he can’t do shit on his own

This shows you did not understand the arc at all. Mikey's sister got killed. If it weren't takemichy who led TR to fight Tenjuku, Mikey and Draken would never have arrived to fight, thus TR wouldnt have won against Tenjiku that day. Guess what happens? Takemichy and Naota was already killed in the present so they can't go back, meaning in the future he and his girlfriend would still be killed by Izana. But thank god Takemichy went, so TR eventually won the fight and Kisaki was killed by a truck. So explain to me why you think "he can't do shit on his own"?

You are contradicting everything you say bro. I'v proven why you are wrong to call him a "pussy", and prove to you now why he has character development and can do shit on his own. What other false accusations are you gonna use now?

In season 2 TR Takemichi Hanagaki was fighting Taiju Shiba he was magically able to land a hit on him and knock him down even tho he is shown to be weak is called plot armour. Takemichi's personality can be inconsistent across different scenes or episodes. He might be timid and unsure of himself in one scene, but then show courage and determination in another with no explanation for the change. That's not character development it's just poor wring
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I was going to say someone but he was mentioned too many times, and yeah I also dropped Tokyo Revengers because I couldn't stand Takemichi as a character, nor the melodramatic plot. So I have to go with another awful protagonist.



I know he's from a movie but the dude literally has no personality, like, nothing, he's supposed to be a protagonist but he has nothing that makes him different or worthwile mentioning other than "he found an orb to travel back in time" and that's all. He has nothing that makes him interesting, relatable or anything. Even characters like Watashi from Yojouhan which is purposedly made for the viewer to project on him had way more personality.

His wikipedia description in Japanese doesn't say anything beyond "he is a student and he likes Nazuna", as well as the English description being "A male student learning that fireworks are flat.". That's literally all he is. Nothing, nobody, an absolute flat character. I know it's okay to have a simple protagonist at times but this is basically writing a nobody.
eblf2013Aug 3, 2024 4:41 AM

MOKUSHI KUSHIMO SHIMOKU KUMOSHI MOSHIKU SHIKUMO.
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yuji itadory is the worst Mc of all time yet he's the best character from jjk
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Zimmu said:
@lucas_tong_3133
Character development doesn't mean become a better fighter. According to you, are you saying EVERY NON-FIGHTING ANIME MC have no character development because they don't get better at fighting? In TR, the point was never to make Takemitchy become a better fighter. I think its obvious thats never the author's intention. He is physically weak, but he doesn't give up even if he gets beat so many times, to the point where even the "Strong" characters like Mikey and Draken relies on him and wants him.

If u say Takemichi have character development is like saying every single anime character would get development at some point even those that showed up an episode and died straight after

You are comparing two entirely different things. You think character developement is only when a character learns a new martial arts move which is far from the truth. Takemichy went from a 26 yr loser to eventually becoming a leader in 2 gangs (TR and Black Dragon), all because of his charisma of perseverence and not backing up against strong enemies. But you still call him a pussy and say he has no development. In the beginning of the story, he even wanted to give up, but then after experiencing so many "bad futures", he was determined to save them. Do you not call this character developement?

The only decent moment was when he led Toman against Tenjuku but even still they got pretty beaten till mikey showed up. This shows he can’t do shit on his own

This shows you did not understand the arc at all. Mikey's sister got killed. If it weren't takemichy who led TR to fight Tenjuku, Mikey and Draken would never have arrived to fight, thus TR wouldnt have won against Tenjiku that day. Guess what happens? Takemichy and Naota was already killed in the present so they can't go back, meaning in the future he and his girlfriend would still be killed by Izana. But thank god Takemichy went, so TR eventually won the fight and Kisaki was killed by a truck. So explain to me why you think "he can't do shit on his own"?

You are contradicting everything you say bro. I'v proven why you are wrong to call him a "pussy", and prove to you now why he has character development and can do shit on his own. What other false accusations are you gonna use now?

In season 2 TR Takemichi Hanagaki was fighting Taiju Shiba he was magically able to land a hit on him and knock him down even tho he is shown to be weak is called plot armour. Takemichi's personality can be inconsistent across different scenes or episodes. He might be timid and unsure of himself in one scene, but then show courage and determination in another with no explanation for the change. That's not character development it's just poor wring
@Asmodeus468
Yeah I’m aware of that scene. But I don’t think it’s plot armor. They both punched each other in the face, but takemichy hit Taiju’s chin which made him collapse. It was more like a lucky hit, but I wouldn’t say it’s so significant it’s considered a plot armor. Takemichy is weak, but any human punching hard into another’s chin can easily drop someone

Furthermore, it wasn’t like Taiju was knocked unconscious or something like that. He stood back up very quick.

“ He might be timid and unsure of himself in one scene, but then show courage and determination in another with no explanation for the change. ”
Can you name some examples? This is pretty realistic though. If Takemichy becomes some alpha male chad after going back to the past, that is indeed bad writing. But the fact that he knows when to get serious and still some times act naive and shy shows he didn’t completely lose his personality. When he is hanging out with friends, I don’t think he would be so serious right? Same concept when he is in a fight that could determine his gf’s death, he is going full serious.
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Zimmu said:
@lucas_tong_3133
Character development doesn't mean become a better fighter. According to you, are you saying EVERY NON-FIGHTING ANIME MC have no character development because they don't get better at fighting? In TR, the point was never to make Takemitchy become a better fighter. I think its obvious thats never the author's intention. He is physically weak, but he doesn't give up even if he gets beat so many times, to the point where even the "Strong" characters like Mikey and Draken relies on him and wants him.

If u say Takemichi have character development is like saying every single anime character would get development at some point even those that showed up an episode and died straight after

You are comparing two entirely different things. You think character developement is only when a character learns a new martial arts move which is far from the truth. Takemichy went from a 26 yr loser to eventually becoming a leader in 2 gangs (TR and Black Dragon), all because of his charisma of perseverence and not backing up against strong enemies. But you still call him a pussy and say he has no development. In the beginning of the story, he even wanted to give up, but then after experiencing so many "bad futures", he was determined to save them. Do you not call this character developement?

The only decent moment was when he led Toman against Tenjuku but even still they got pretty beaten till mikey showed up. This shows he can’t do shit on his own

This shows you did not understand the arc at all. Mikey's sister got killed. If it weren't takemichy who led TR to fight Tenjuku, Mikey and Draken would never have arrived to fight, thus TR wouldnt have won against Tenjiku that day. Guess what happens? Takemichy and Naota was already killed in the present so they can't go back, meaning in the future he and his girlfriend would still be killed by Izana. But thank god Takemichy went, so TR eventually won the fight and Kisaki was killed by a truck. So explain to me why you think "he can't do shit on his own"?

You are contradicting everything you say bro. I'v proven why you are wrong to call him a "pussy", and prove to you now why he has character development and can do shit on his own. What other false accusations are you gonna use now?

no way I'm gonna read all this sh*t anyways just respect my dudes opinion
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Zimmu said:
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Yeah I’m aware of that scene. But I don’t think it’s plot armor. They both punched each other in the face, but takemichy hit Taiju’s chin which made him collapse. It was more like a lucky hit, but I wouldn’t say it’s so significant it’s considered a plot armor. Takemichy is weak, but any human punching hard into another’s chin can easily drop someone

Furthermore, it wasn’t like Taiju was knocked unconscious or something like that. He stood back up very quick.

“ He might be timid and unsure of himself in one scene, but then show courage and determination in another with no explanation for the change. ”
Can you name some examples? This is pretty realistic though. If Takemichy becomes some alpha male chad after going back to the past, that is indeed bad writing. But the fact that he knows when to get serious and still some times act naive and shy shows he didn’t completely lose his personality. When he is hanging out with friends, I don’t think he would be so serious right? Same concept when he is in a fight that could determine his gf’s death, he is going full serious.

For example, Takemichi is devastated by Hinata's death he seems relatively but then seems calm and collected despite the traumatic events unfolding around him. Takemichi has cliché character with the troupe never giving up


can you tell when he has good character development?
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Zimmu said:
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Character development doesn't mean become a better fighter. According to you, are you saying EVERY NON-FIGHTING ANIME MC have no character development because they don't get better at fighting? In TR, the point was never to make Takemitchy become a better fighter. I think its obvious thats never the author's intention. He is physically weak, but he doesn't give up even if he gets beat so many times, to the point where even the "Strong" characters like Mikey and Draken relies on him and wants him.

If u say Takemichi have character development is like saying every single anime character would get development at some point even those that showed up an episode and died straight after

You are comparing two entirely different things. You think character developement is only when a character learns a new martial arts move which is far from the truth. Takemichy went from a 26 yr loser to eventually becoming a leader in 2 gangs (TR and Black Dragon), all because of his charisma of perseverence and not backing up against strong enemies. But you still call him a pussy and say he has no development. In the beginning of the story, he even wanted to give up, but then after experiencing so many "bad futures", he was determined to save them. Do you not call this character developement?

The only decent moment was when he led Toman against Tenjuku but even still they got pretty beaten till mikey showed up. This shows he can’t do shit on his own

This shows you did not understand the arc at all. Mikey's sister got killed. If it weren't takemichy who led TR to fight Tenjuku, Mikey and Draken would never have arrived to fight, thus TR wouldnt have won against Tenjiku that day. Guess what happens? Takemichy and Naota was already killed in the present so they can't go back, meaning in the future he and his girlfriend would still be killed by Izana. But thank god Takemichy went, so TR eventually won the fight and Kisaki was killed by a truck. So explain to me why you think "he can't do shit on his own"?

You are contradicting everything you say bro. I'v proven why you are wrong to call him a "pussy", and prove to you now why he has character development and can do shit on his own. What other false accusations are you gonna use now?

no way I'm gonna read all this sh*t anyways just respect my dudes opinion
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Yeah who tf are you anyway? Why you trynna pop your head into something not dedicated for u 😂 An opinion isn’t really an opinion if it can be proven wrong with facts from the story
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@Vaixen Wth? Did you even properly watch Apothecary Diaries?! I have never even seen anyone who doesn't even like her. She's easily one of the best female MCs of all time.
@Styx_Paradise, I agree with you. Maomao is definitely one of my favorite female characters <3
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Yeah I’m aware of that scene. But I don’t think it’s plot armor. They both punched each other in the face, but takemichy hit Taiju’s chin which made him collapse. It was more like a lucky hit, but I wouldn’t say it’s so significant it’s considered a plot armor. Takemichy is weak, but any human punching hard into another’s chin can easily drop someone

Furthermore, it wasn’t like Taiju was knocked unconscious or something like that. He stood back up very quick.

“ He might be timid and unsure of himself in one scene, but then show courage and determination in another with no explanation for the change. ”
Can you name some examples? This is pretty realistic though. If Takemichy becomes some alpha male chad after going back to the past, that is indeed bad writing. But the fact that he knows when to get serious and still some times act naive and shy shows he didn’t completely lose his personality. When he is hanging out with friends, I don’t think he would be so serious right? Same concept when he is in a fight that could determine his gf’s death, he is going full serious.

For example, Takemichi is devastated by Hinata's death he seems relatively but then seems calm and collected despite the traumatic events unfolding around him. Takemichi has cliché character with the troupe never giving up


can you tell when he has good character development?
@Asmodeus468
For example, Takemichi is devastated by Hinata's death he seems relatively but then seems calm and collected despite the traumatic events unfolding around him.

From a story's POV, if he doesn't become calm and collected, but screams and panics like Zenitsu, people will be shitting on him even more and this would be another one of those arguments that shit on Takemichy, wouldn't it? From the character's POV, he witnessed all the tragedies in the future, but when he get back to the past, he still knows that the future can be changed. Even the tiniest hopes can awake something in him. This can explain why he tend to change his emotions.

Takemichi has cliché character with the troupe never giving up

But honestly idk whatelse people expect him to do. In this sense, Tanjiro is just a cliche character of killing demons to save people and saving his sister without other motives; Luffy is just a cliche character that wants to become the pirate king. I see your point, but this troupe makes a lot of sense in a shounen like this. Takemichy for sure isn't a deep character. The troupe is pretty common, but not just in TR. I think you can name other anime with the troupe of not giving up. In terms of portraying the type of person Takemichy is, I don't think the story portrays him badly. Remember, this isn't meant to be a philospophy university text book, but somehow people always think that an anime character should have such depth, when 90% of anime characters fails to meet such a height interms of being "deep".
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@Zimmu from my perspective he a stupid character

As a character, he is normally shown as the dumb character in the room, even tho he is an adult mentally. plus normally just stands there crying about how useless he is.

He knew draken was going to be stabbed, and he did nothing despite knowing who was going to stab him .

The main villain is kisaki and takamichi main objective is to make sure he doesn't end up in power in toma he is shown photos of him and know what he looks like and when return to the past he punches him making everyone around him thinking he a pycho this could of been stopped if he told mickey or draken
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@Zimmu from my perspective he a stupid character

As a character, he is normally shown as the dumb character in the room, even tho he is an adult mentally. plus normally just stands there crying about how useless he is.

He knew draken was going to be stabbed, and he did nothing despite knowing who was going to stab him .

The main villain is kisaki and takamichi main objective is to make sure he doesn't end up in power in toma he is shown photos of him and know what he looks like and when return to the past he punches him making everyone around him thinking he a pycho this could of been stopped if he told mickey or draken
@Asmodeus468
Takemichy is stupid I agree. Im pretty sure many people would have way different ways to handling the problems he faced if they were put in the same situation. But then again, the way I look at TR or even anime as a whole is, they are their own unique person.

For example, if he isn't a dumb person, then he wouldn't have ended up as a 26 yr virgin. The readers hates him because of how useless and stupid he is, but this is the kind of character he is. The way I see it is, his uselessness and stupidity are part of his character trait, which doesn't mean "bad writing". For instance, Mahito from JJK is hated by so many, but it doesn't mean he is a badly written character. His evilness successfully made people hate him, which is actually good writing. This is similar to Takemichy. If he isn't this useless crybaby, the story wouldn't have continued and all the achievements he did at the end of the manga wouldn't even matter. Its the fact that we know how useless he is, we can understand how incredible he is by saving the entire cast. He is purposefully set as a crybaby when the mangaka decided to create the story, just like how Light is created to be this smart dude or Gojo being born special to be the strongest. Its setting of the character, but fundamentally, they are just character traits.

He knew draken was going to be stabbed, and he did nothing despite knowing who was going to stab him .

Like I said, I agree. He makes stupid decisions.
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Having seen School Days, I still think the MC of Future Diary is the worst.
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@Zimmu
well, I don't really want to continue this debate anymore. At the end of the day, we all have our own opinions
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Yeah who tf are you anyway? Why you trynna pop your head into something not dedicated for u 😂 An opinion isn’t really an opinion if it can be proven wrong with facts from the story

I'm just trying to defend my bro I don't really care either way 😂
anyways I don't want to continue this pointless argument
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Light is just horrible! I can't freaking stand him.
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I think its impossible to say, but of all anime I've watched, I'd say Natsu or Takemichi are down there with the worse ones
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well, I don't really want to continue this debate anymore. At the end of the day, we all have our own opinions
@Asmodeus468
Ok we can leave it here. Thank you for actually providing facts in arguments when debating. There are some who I argue with that don't even use any factual evidence and say things off their brain.
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Yeah who tf are you anyway? Why you trynna pop your head into something not dedicated for u 😂 An opinion isn’t really an opinion if it can be proven wrong with facts from the story

I'm just trying to defend my bro I don't really care either way 😂
anyways I don't want to continue this pointless argument
@Fuern
Feel free to defend ur bro. I don't want to continue this argument with more people than I already am dealing with bruh, not to mention you, who I didn't even talk to. But come on man, if Im talking to your bro, then let me talk to him 😭
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Feel free to defend ur bro. I don't want to continue this argument with more people than I already am dealing with bruh, not to mention you, who I didn't even talk to. But come on man, if Im talking to your bro, then let me talk to him 😭

yea yea sorry 😂
it's ok now I didn't really take this seriously anyway
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the worst for me is rent a girlfriend mc
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Power fantasy mc from isekai n°999
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I see there's a lot of popular protagonists here but the worst I've seen is Arajin from Bucchigiri...
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@Doriss for some reason people hate when the main characters fear or cry, people call shinji from evangelion a coward because he fears disregarding how he stands up time and time again, they hate deku because he is emotional when it's the best thing about him. Characters who are allowed to fear, cry and be hurt are the best, most interesting and most relatable characters when done well

Anime fans don't have compassion. They just want the main mc to be Goku to get there dicks erect.
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Tanjiro from Demon Slayer. Not because he's bad but because he's too perfect. Good characters need some imperfections to make them perfect. Perfection in character designing is a big no-no.
@Tha_Termemenator Define what you mean by "too perfect". If you mean too nice, then yeah, I could agree with that to an extent. Dude puts up with way more stuff than I ever would.
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I think it's takemitchi I guess. I mean he cannot even guarded himself or have some strange kicks and punches. He was like Sakura calling for help 🤦
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(one of the biggest pussy in anime history)

Thats weird. The theme that the series tried to convey is, "you may be weak, but you can still fight and not give up. " He is a crybaby yet he never gave up to try to save the person he likes and his friends around him, not just Mikey alone. He is weak and can't fight, but he still is the first person to rush during those gangfights. I don't really think you understood the show's message before just deciding to hate on him and call him a pussy who clearly isn't one.

@someguy
He gives the same expression all the time and acts all cool and edgy and I just hate it

This is understandable, but its more due to the anime itself and not the source material. He actually has quite a lot of monologues and isn't emotionless in the LN, but the anime adaptation made him look like he has face paralysis. Overall he feels much more distant in the anime.

@lucas_tong_3133
Takemichi is straight F imo. Bro got no character development throughout the whole series

Not true. He did have char dev and that was in the start of the story when he was a real pussy and had no will to fight. But then later on he decided to step up and accomplish the goals he sets, which meant he developed. I also don't understand why you think this, as he was an anti-social virgin and later on became a "hero" who saved everyone's lives and destiny. Is this not character development in your eyes, or you just didn't care to even understand the series?

First of all I have no problem with the theme cause MHA has also kind of a similar theme but u don't see me hating deku so y I hate takamichi is cause he has so much advantage (he can go back in time when every he wants in the early season still he made so many mistakes, he has so many good and powerfull character backing him up still he can't do something so as simple as saving his gf) I think he is dumber *100 incomparison to kisaki,man for one he has no powers to go back in time and change thinks but he still got so far and killed his gf so many times that's genius.

secondly, u are talking about rushing into fights.. many characters does that but they actually has the guts or can actually make a change or can actually win the fights that's y they jump so fast but not this pussy. I agree that he always rushing into fights but what's the point bro he can't win, he does not have the guts(always shaking in his pants shown in the anime ), and the biggest think he can't even execute the talk no jutsu(some other characters has to jump in to convene the bad ones,so tecnically everyone is helping him not the other way around) so for ur information takamachi is the worst protagonist there is cause even a high school kid can be a good protagonist than him

And lastly, Everyone who is still watching TR is watching cause of Micky, draken etc no one i repeat no one is watching it for takamichi let that sink in. so don't give me the crap that he is a good protagonist cause he is always rushing in and helping his friends (which ultimately does not help anyone someone has to come an defend takamichi physical or verbally)it doesn't make him the hero , what makes a character 'a hero' is that everyone can always count of him to make everything right when he is rushing into the fight not the other way around....



And one more thing he is a certified crybaby and a pussy u can't change my mind.
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(one of the biggest pussy in anime history)

Thats weird. The theme that the series tried to convey is, "you may be weak, but you can still fight and not give up. " He is a crybaby yet he never gave up to try to save the person he likes and his friends around him, not just Mikey alone. He is weak and can't fight, but he still is the first person to rush during those gangfights. I don't really think you understood the show's message before just deciding to hate on him and call him a pussy who clearly isn't one.

@someguy
He gives the same expression all the time and acts all cool and edgy and I just hate it

This is understandable, but its more due to the anime itself and not the source material. He actually has quite a lot of monologues and isn't emotionless in the LN, but the anime adaptation made him look like he has face paralysis. Overall he feels much more distant in the anime.

@lucas_tong_3133
Takemichi is straight F imo. Bro got no character development throughout the whole series

Not true. He did have char dev and that was in the start of the story when he was a real pussy and had no will to fight. But then later on he decided to step up and accomplish the goals he sets, which meant he developed. I also don't understand why you think this, as he was an anti-social virgin and later on became a "hero" who saved everyone's lives and destiny. Is this not character development in your eyes, or you just didn't care to even understand the series?

First of all I have no problem with the theme cause MHA has also kind of a similar theme but u don't see me hating deku so y I hate takamichi is cause he has so much advantage (he can go back in time when every he wants in the early season still he made so many mistakes, he has so many good and powerfull character backing him up still he can't do something so as simple as saving his gf) I think he is dumber *100 incomparison to kisaki,man for one he has no powers to go back in time and change thinks but he still got so far and killed his gf so many times that's genius.

secondly, u are talking about rushing into fights.. many characters does that but they actually has the guts or can actually make a change or can actually win the fights that's y they jump so fast but not this pussy. I agree that he always rushing into fights but what's the point bro he can't win, he does not have the guts(always shaking in his pants shown in the anime ), and the biggest think he can't even execute the talk no jutsu(some other characters has to jump in to convene the bad ones,so tecnically everyone is helping him not the other way around) so for ur information takamachi is the worst protagonist there is cause even a high school kid can be a good protagonist than him

And lastly, Everyone who is still watching TR is watching cause of Micky, draken etc no one i repeat no one is watching it for takamichi let that sink in. so don't give me the crap that he is a good protagonist cause he is always rushing in and helping his friends (which ultimately does not help anyone someone has to come an defend takamichi physical or verbally)it doesn't make him the hero , what makes a character 'a hero' is that everyone can always count of him to make everything right when he is rushing into the fight not the other way around....



And one more thing he is a certified crybaby and a pussy u can't change my mind.
@levibigass
So basically you like MCs that are smart or physically powerful. Looking at your favorites, you like: Toji, Gut, Johan, Levi, Uchiha etc...All of them are powerful or smart characters. However, this is your taste, and it means that you dislike characters that are weak. You are saying Takemichy is a bad character, but to me, its just because you dislike weak characters and only like strong characters. Am I wrong?

These are all your subjective taste, as you hate watching anime MC struggling. Thats why you watch TR for Mikey and Draken just because they are powerful leaders. You like Kisaki better than Takemichy also because he is more skilled and smart. Let that sink in. When you are debating whether a character is "good or bad", you shouldn't argue so subjectively based on what you like or not.
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Best Jeanist is like a reject from a BL bondage hentai. But seriously, there is also a washing machine hero so anything goes I guess.

I'm not sure about Midnight, while I didn't hate her character 100%, she's no Mt. Lady. I'd love to have an arc where she was really kidnapped, brainwashed and has her powers amplified. Then they'd have to win her back while she plays pervy villain.
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As someone who loves Demon Slayer / KnY, Tanjiro has been intolerable the last two seasons. The first season, movie arc, and second season were very sentimental and meaningful, but recently, he’s just been so stale and so typical of an anime protagonist; especially for such a cool show. Really goes to show just how default and boring is when he isn’t locked in and using his powers
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Probably Takemichi. If you count female mcs, then I also dislike Frieren, though that’s more of a hot take I like to have
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karnisdead said:
As someone who loves Demon Slayer / KnY, Tanjiro has been intolerable the last two seasons. The first season, movie arc, and second season were very sentimental and meaningful, but recently, he’s just been so stale and so typical of an anime protagonist; especially for such a cool show. Really goes to show just how default and boring is when he isn’t locked in and using his powers

I respectfully disagree. Tanjiro is so kindhearted and a loving brother who is pretty badass at times
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I agree with the kazuya haters. Rent a Girlfriend didn't deserve 3 seasons and if it did it should have definitely given him some growth from simping trash. Dude gets a GF and still chases a sad ending prostitute. Tanjiro, Deku and Gon all fall in the same vein for me, upbeat and hopefully characters with the occasional cry baby moments that you want to punch, but at least they have more than one emotion.
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